[10:04] sheesh 3 support calls all at once, what a Monday [10:09] glad one has a young enough lad that can work out the basics, had to change the subnet in use at an opticians yesterday ahead of plans to provide VPN access [10:10] i was redoing some cabling yesterday there, someone had gone off-spec with the colour coding causing both ends to be done >_< [11:03] surely you had your trusty cable tester and crimper to redo the ends? :-) [12:09] zxmpi: well not a crimper, i refuse to put solid core into 8P8Cs... preferring wall socket modules to make a trusty and reliable connection! [12:10] but it was between those + the patch panel that had to be redone [12:40] but also raises the question, who goes off spec? colour blind? an idiot? :-P [12:42] a colour blind sparky definitely made for an interesting job a couple of years ago, somehow the PoE cables would work for a bit but then fail a day or so after, despite the wrong order [12:42] once i put one on spec it was nice and reliable [12:55] huh that's interesting behaviour [12:56] yeah i don't get how it could even begin to work once [13:02] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet#Standard_implementation says it's commoned across the pairs; and then through a diode bridge to cope with crossover cables; so hmm