[00:11] providing your Ubuntu_MATE release maybe help (I don't recall the MATE versions for each Ubuntu MATE release for example) ; MATE 1.26 appears to be from Ubuntu MATE 21.10 which is now EOL [00:12] https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-impish-indri-final-release/ [00:40] guiverc: is an LTS [00:41] 22.04 [00:42] MATE 1.26.1 then if you check [01:05] sorry, I might skipped the .1 [06:06] Ark74: run it from a terminal and see if it produces any error messages [06:10] alkisg: (mate-time-admin:1387): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 00:10:21.282: gtk_lock_button_set_permission: assertion 'GTK_IS_LOCK_BUTTON (button)' failed [06:11] Ark74: I get that here too, even though it works fine, so that's not it [06:11] Well next, try to run it with sudo in front [06:11] Ah [06:11] Before doing that: [06:11] Try: find ~ -uid 0 [06:11] To see if you have any root-owned files, e.g. dconf [06:12] one sec [06:12] find ~ -uid 0 return empty [06:12] *returns [06:13] OK then try sudo mate-time-admin [06:13] can't create pid file [06:13] error [06:13] OK [06:13] (as superuser) on the title label [06:14] And when you run a plain `mate-time-admin`, the "Edit" button is greyed out? [06:15] maybe I have some service down? [06:15] everything is greyed out [06:15] ntp seems enabled [06:15] The NTP syn and Edit buttons are supposed to be usable; the rest are supposed to be greyed out if you have ntp on [06:16] So if you have ntp on, you can only change the timezone, not the time, as it's synced from the internet [06:16] yeah no I can't change the timezone [06:17] And that's what you want to change? [06:17] If so, you can change it from /etc/timezone [06:17] systemd-wide, for all users [06:19] http://ark.switnet.org/tmp/mate-time-admin.png [06:20] well, yeah I guess that's possible [06:20] * alkisg uploaded an image: (39KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/taJgjqJJFvTbceQjWwcCgCIe/mate-time-admin.png > [06:20] That's what I see, which I consider is "normal" [06:21] You might be missing some dbus service; does the problem still happen after a reboot? [06:21] yeah [06:21] And you're logged in locally, not over VNC etc, right? [06:22] you are running too, systemd-timesyncd, right? [06:22] yeah [06:22] Yes, as part of the default installation, I didn't touch anything related to time [06:23] Ubuntu MATE 22.04 [06:23] I was looking at ntp, thinking that could solve it but no [06:23] I'll make a diff on my instalation and the livecd [06:23] dpkg -l | grep ntp ==> empty [06:23] maybe I removed something needed :P [06:23] Also try creating a new user, to see if the problem is in /home/username or in /etc [06:24] yeah, I'll try that too [06:27] the other user can't open mate-time-admin [06:27] can't create pid file [06:29] Even after rebooting and logging in with the new user, without running anything as the old one? [06:30] Also add them to the sudo group [06:52] alkisg: somehow I managed to remove policykit-desktop-privileges [06:52] that was my issue [06:53] thank you very much for walking me through