[00:11] <guiverc> providing your Ubuntu_MATE release maybe help (I don't recall the MATE versions for each Ubuntu MATE release for example) ; MATE 1.26 appears to be from Ubuntu MATE 21.10 which is now EOL
[00:12] <guiverc> https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-impish-indri-final-release/
[00:40] <Ark74> guiverc: is an LTS
[00:41] <Ark74> 22.04
[00:42] <guiverc> MATE 1.26.1 then if you check
[01:05] <Ark74> sorry, I might skipped the .1
[06:06] <alkisg> Ark74: run it from a terminal and see if it produces any error messages
[06:10] <Ark74> alkisg: (mate-time-admin:1387): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 00:10:21.282: gtk_lock_button_set_permission: assertion 'GTK_IS_LOCK_BUTTON (button)' failed
[06:11] <alkisg> Ark74: I get that here too, even though it works fine, so that's not it
[06:11] <alkisg> Well next, try to run it with sudo in front
[06:11] <alkisg> Ah
[06:11] <alkisg> Before doing that:
[06:11] <alkisg> Try: find ~ -uid 0
[06:11] <alkisg> To see if you have any root-owned files, e.g. dconf
[06:12] <Ark74> one sec
[06:12] <Ark74> find ~ -uid 0 return empty
[06:12] <Ark74> *returns
[06:13] <alkisg> OK then try sudo mate-time-admin
[06:13] <Ark74> can't create pid file
[06:13] <Ark74> error
[06:13] <alkisg> OK
[06:13] <Ark74> (as superuser) on the title label
[06:14] <alkisg> And when you run a plain `mate-time-admin`, the "Edit" button is greyed out?
[06:15] <Ark74> maybe I have some service down?
[06:15] <Ark74> everything is greyed out
[06:15] <Ark74> ntp seems enabled
[06:15] <alkisg> The NTP syn and Edit buttons are supposed to be usable; the rest are supposed to be greyed out if you have ntp on
[06:16] <alkisg> So if you have ntp on, you can only change the timezone, not the time, as it's synced from the internet
[06:16] <Ark74> yeah no I can't change the timezone
[06:17] <alkisg> And that's what you want to change?
[06:17] <alkisg> If so, you can change it from /etc/timezone
[06:17] <alkisg> systemd-wide, for all users
[06:19] <Ark74> http://ark.switnet.org/tmp/mate-time-admin.png
[06:20] <Ark74> well, yeah I guess that's possible
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[06:20] <alkisg> That's what I see, which I consider is "normal"
[06:21] <alkisg> You might be missing some dbus service; does the problem still happen after a reboot?
[06:21] <Ark74> yeah
[06:21] <alkisg> And you're logged in locally, not over VNC etc, right?
[06:22] <Ark74> you are running too, systemd-timesyncd, right?
[06:22] <Ark74> yeah
[06:22] <alkisg> Yes, as part of the default installation, I didn't touch anything related to time
[06:23] <alkisg> Ubuntu MATE 22.04
[06:23] <Ark74> I was looking at ntp, thinking that could solve it but no
[06:23] <Ark74> I'll make a diff on my instalation and the livecd
[06:23] <alkisg> dpkg -l | grep ntp ==> empty
[06:23] <Ark74> maybe I removed something needed :P
[06:23] <alkisg> Also try creating a new user, to see if the problem is in /home/username or in /etc
[06:24] <Ark74> yeah, I'll try that too
[06:27] <Ark74> the other user can't open mate-time-admin
[06:27] <Ark74> can't create pid file
[06:29] <alkisg> Even after rebooting and logging in with the new user, without running anything as the old one?
[06:30] <alkisg> Also add them to the sudo group
[06:52] <Ark74> alkisg: somehow I managed to remove policykit-desktop-privileges
[06:52] <Ark74> that was my issue
[06:53] <Ark74> thank you very much for walking me through