[01:05] FWIW, the ISO testing tracker is slowing down again. It's about 1m 15s for a report page to load and save. It was much worse for a few months, about a 2m load time per page, but then it improved. It's now slowing down again. I suppose that's outside the scope of the Lubuntu team, but I figured I'd mention it. It's darned annoying, is what it is. [01:11] Heh, I've seen it be pretty slow too. Guess it gives you time to go get some coffee or something :) [01:13] They fixed it once. [01:13] Well, currently I'm split between continuing to work on the KDE System Settings thing by testing out a new Bluetooth stack, or getting lubuntu-installer-prompt working and shipped. Which one sounds better? [01:13] s/stack/UI/ [01:14] Probably the settings thing - as more folks will be interested in that then BT. (That's my guess, anyway.) [01:14] I so misread that... [01:14] Well the Bluetooth and the settings thing are intertwined, as KDE System Settings is still getting installed on the Lubuntu ISOs since the KDE Bluetooth stuff recommends it. [01:15] The installer prompt. Now that I actually read what you wrote. (I'm multitasking and NOT doing well with it!) [01:16] Heh, no problem. Sounds good. My Bluetooth earbuds that I'd use for testing need recharged anyway. [01:16] And the charging case needs charged too... [01:26] LOL It's amazing how many things we recharge these days. I'm pretty old and that'd be one of the things I've seen change over time. Battery tech is pretty amazing. [01:27] Personally I think wired is actually more convenient. Laptops are cool, but a desktop won't run out of juice, has more power, and generally is easier to use. But laptops are what I have and I'm mobile enough around my house that having one is very handy, so... sigh. [02:27] re: iso.qa tracker & slow.. I made RT ticket [67219; 18-Jan] & they responded due hardware failure.. will be fixed when ordered hardware arrives (they closed ticket) [16:49] arraybolt3: l-u-n autopkgtest> How exactly are you going about reproducing it? [16:50] arraybolt3: Usually, uploads to increase verbosity should be done locally/in a PPA :P (and you can trigger autopkgtests against PPAs ;) ) [16:55] tsimonq2: I just used "autopkgtest --apt-pocket=proposed=* -- schroot lunar-amd64-shm" to try and reproduce. [16:55] tsimonq2: Also, I didn't know there was any particular policy around making uploads to increase verbosity. [16:55] I did use the verbosity-increase locally and it gave me pretty much what I expected. [16:56] (i.e., a successful result that didn't appear to tell me anything more about what the problem might be) [16:57] (I also tried without the "--apt-pocket=proposed=*" and it behaved the same.) [17:16] arraybolt3: How about just using the triggers specified in the autopkgtest? [17:17] arraybolt3: Also meh, I guess it's not against policy, but an upload to just debug is kinda discouraged [17:17] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [17:22] tsimonq2: Makes sense. And with the upload, I'll avoid doing debugging uploads in the future. (Though really we probably want this one since our previous autopkgtest was *pathetic* in how much info it gave, and now it's not \o/) [20:48] wrt lubuntu-installer-prompt, it looks like SDDM is auto-logging into the Lubuntu user upon start. I think all we need to do is change whatever's setting /etc/sddm to boot into a Lubuntu.desktop session, and make it boot into a installer-prompt.desktop session or something. [20:49] Then lubuntu-installer-prompt can exit and call startlxqt, which (I believe) gets the desktop rolling (or maybe it has to trigger Lubuntu.desktop or something). [20:49] Or it can exit and pop up Calamares. [20:54] Or maybe it shouldn't exit at all, if the user chooses to install Lubuntu, maybe it should just hide the buttons and leave the background there during the installation. [21:44] OK, sooooo... trying to run the installer prompt as an application without a window manager involved (oops) sorta resulted in a mess. [21:44] Guess I should probably rope OpenBox into the picture :P [21:45] I mean, Calamares could run in fullscreen mode? [21:46] That's a thought, but it looks bad in fullscreen mode currently and so we intentionally took it out of fullscreen mode. [21:46] (We are running alpha software in production here :P) [21:49] What looks bad, again? heh [21:50] one moment... [21:52] tsimonq2: OK, so... [21:53] The real problem I was having with the installer prompt was that, when rendered without a window manager, it was using X directly, and that made it render in a tiny box in the upper-left corner of the screen with nearly none of it visible. === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [21:53] The problem with Calamares is that when in fullscreen, it displays the splash screen image way smaller than its supposed to (a regression from the older version). [21:54] We worked around the regression by drawing Calamares in a window instead. And now I need to figure out how to get a window manager involved with lubuntu-installer-prompt, which probably means making a shell script to orchestrate things :D [22:04] What does the regressed splash screen look like? [22:06] https://imgur.com/a/JVdzfSI [22:07] (This was a problem in the Kinetic cycle, we elected to do things this way since we were short on time. We should do a Calamares update and see if the issue is solved there, and if not, write a bug report.) [22:07] (This is if I'm remembering correctly, that is.) [22:43] I wonder how big that source image file is, if we have the source for it, and if it will scale [22:44] It's supposed to scale automatically, I believe. [23:01] No, I mean, let's make sure it's not a small image in and of itself [23:29] [telegram] *rescales simon's brain to be smaller* [23:29] [telegram] :P [23:32] * arrayboltCBook pipes /dev/urandom into @teward001's brain