jawn-smith#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team16:01
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jawn-smithThe status is here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-02-february-2023/3365716:02
jawn-smithLet's all read and ask questions16:02
bdmurraydbungert: so mini-iso-tools is the ?16:02
dbungertit's a package with a similar use story to casper, to build stuff into an initrd16:03
dbungertthis is what's driving the boot-chooser feature on the new mini.iso work16:03
slyondanilogondolfo: did you already push those final fixes for the vxlan PR (after my review)?16:04
danilogondolfoslyon: not yet, finishing that right now16:05
slyonexcelent, thanks!16:05
jawn-smith#topic Release incoming bugs16:09
jawn-smith#link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs16:09
jawn-smithbug 200333116:09
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2003331 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Can't log in to lunar x11 session" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200333116:09
jawn-smithLooks like we discussed this last week16:09
jawn-smithAnd it looks like a desktop team issue16:10
jawn-smithNothing for us to do, so moving on16:10
jawn-smithbug 200287116:10
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2002871 in pkgbinarymangler (Ubuntu) "Failed pkgbinarymangler tests with python3.11" [Low, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200287116:10
jawn-smithwaveform: you had mentioned looking into this, have you checked up on this at all?16:11
waveformhaven't had time this week unfortunately16:11
jawn-smithThink you'll have time next week?16:11
waveformyes, should do16:11
jawn-smithExcellent, I'll leave that with you then16:11
jawn-smithbug 200427216:12
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2004272 in dnspython (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-h2, httpx as dependencies of dnspython" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200427216:12
slyonDebian enabled DNS over Https (DOH) which requires lots of new dependencies (MIRs)16:13
jawn-smithSome discussion of whether this should be handled this cycle or next16:14
slyonFoundations needs to consider if we want to take responsibility for all those new dependency and do the MIRs (I disabled DOH for now to mitigate the MIRs)16:14
schopinIMHO we should keep DOH disabled until someone asks us for the support.16:15
jawn-smithChanging the tag to rls-mm-incoming so we remember to look into this next cycle16:15
jawn-smithThat's it for ll16:16
jawn-smithOh neat kk is empty16:16
jawn-smith#link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs16:17
jawn-smithbug 199934516:17
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1999345 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "please add luks2 module to the signed grub2 images" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199934516:17
jawn-smithjuliank: still with security team?16:17
jawn-smithOkay then, it's been an easy day of bug discussions16:17
jawn-smith#topic proposed-migration16:18
jawn-smith#link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs16:18
jawn-smithreprepo vs libarchive is with me16:19
jawn-smithIt's a tricky one16:19
jawn-smithllvm-toolchain was with doko16:19
jawn-smithdatefudge vs coreutils, has anyone been looking into that?16:19
* jawn-smith reads logs16:20
adrienit's still the same status16:20
jawn-smithDoesn't look like that was assigned to anyone last week16:20
jawn-smithOh is this the time64 thing?16:20
schopinit is.16:20
jawn-smithSounds like we're going to hint that one16:22
jawn-smithThere's a licensecheck related MIR, is someone working that?16:22
jawn-smithSounds like adrien is working on that16:23
jawn-smithfuse3 vs ostree16:23
jawn-smithAnyone interested in that?16:23
jawn-smithsounds like a waveform thing16:24
jawn-smithlibcap2 seems to have an armhf regression16:25
jawn-smithIs this also a time64 thing?16:25
slyondanilogondolfo: ^16:25
danilogondolfolibcap2 is failing a test probably due to the test environment16:26
adrienI hope it isn't!16:26
jawn-smithSounds like we're going to patch out the test that's failing on armhf16:28
jawn-smithAnd danilogondolfo is working on that16:28
jawn-smithgrep vs dpdk: any volunteers?16:28
dbungertI can take a look16:28
jawn-smithsetuptools has a few issues16:29
ginggsi'l take them16:29
jawn-smithAll of them?16:29
cpaelzer_what is wrong with "grep vs dpdk" ?16:29
bdmurrayI'm retrying ros-bloom and setup tools aon arm6416:29
=== cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer
jawn-smithcpaelzer: there is a failing dpdk autopkgtest triggered by the new grep16:30
schopincpaelzer: dpdk tests failed when triggered by grep16:30
ginggscpaelzer: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#grep16:30
cpaelzerschopin: I think I just fixed this in Debian, but we didn't upload/sync it yet16:30
jawn-smithThen let's assign fontconfig vs openjdk-8 to vpa197716:30
jawn-smithAnd that's it for proposed migration16:30
cpaelzerchecking, thanks for the link ginggs16:30
jawn-smith#topic AOB16:31
bdrungdistro-info 1.4 fails to build on i386. How do I get mypy built on i386?16:32
ginggslet's have a FTBFS party16:33
cpaelzerschopin: ginggs: dbungert: the dpdk fail you see is not what I fixed (that was on armhf depending on which chip it ran on in test infra).16:34
cpaelzerschopin: ginggs: dbungert: The one you have here is due to overload of the test environment - I've seen it and it happens rarely, but usually when the system hosting the test VM is quite loaded.16:34
dbungertcpaelzer: ok, sounds like we should do a retry16:35
cpaelzerschopin: ginggs: dbungert: maybe we should flag it as large/long test if not already done (haven't checked)16:35
jawn-smithI can take icu16:35
dbungertand that16:35
ginggsit seems the announce did make it to the list https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2023-January/042404.html16:36
bdmurraybdrung will take cracklib16:37
ginggscross-toolchain-base sounds like one for doko16:37
ginggsschopin will look at ec2-hibinit-agent and hibagent16:38
jbichahi, for AOB, will y'all be syncing ICU from Debian for 23.04?16:39
ginggsvpa1977 is already assigned fontconfig for proposed migration16:39
jawn-smithjbicha: I'll look into that sync as part of my work investigating the FTBFS16:40
ginggsslyon is already got fuse3 for proposed migration16:40
ginggsjawn-smith has got icu16:41
ginggsanyone for mpdecimal?16:41
zhsji'll be back next week, so i can take something16:41
ogayotI can take mpdecimal16:41
ginggsok, that's all of the, thanks everyone16:41
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cpaelzerdbungert: I hope I made no mistake since doing so while at (virtual) sprint breaks but that should fix it in the long run https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-package-configs/+merge/43677916:48
cpaelzerdbungert: and until then a retrigger most likely solves it as well16:48
cpaelzerdid someone already hit retry for it?16:48
dbungertyes, I ran the retrigger16:49
cpaelzerok, then I'm holding back16:53
cpaelzerglad i asked :-)16:53
resveratrolIs anyone here?18:19
resveratrolHello? Is anyone here?19:47
ograresveratrol, there will be, in 1:10h ...19:50
resveratrolOh thanks for the reply. Its not at UTC 20:00?19:50
resveratrolFor considering Ubuntu membership?19:51
ograaccording t the fridge calendar it is 21:00 UTC19:51
ograbah ...19:52
ogra*to the19:52
resveratrol"The next 20:00 UTC meeting will be at Thursday, February 2nd, 2023 at 20:00:00 UTC on irc.libera.chat in #ubuntu-meeting."19:52
ograwell, you will know in 8min πŸ˜‰19:52
resveratrolOkay thanks so much! ogra19:53
* ogra is sure *one* of them is right ...19:53
resveratrolI meant, this is my first IRC. Wouldn't the participants be logging in by now, if its at 20:00 UTC?19:54
ogramost of them idle around here anyway, so i think not many actually "log in" ... but there will surely someone start to speak when the meeting starts19:56
resveratrolIn your link, I saw the meeting is held at 22:00 UTC, not 21:00?19:57
ograit should show in your local time, not UTC19:58
resveratrolIs anyone logging in for the Ubuntu membership? Do I have to stay here for an hour or two?20:03
ograresveratrol, well, i guess if you come back at the full hour it should be enough20:04
resveratrolJust to confirm, at 21:00 UTC, the meeting is about Ubuntu membership?20:06
ograthat is what the fridge calendar says ...20:06
ogra(it is usually correct)20:06
resveratrolThank you very much for your help ogra!20:07
PaulW2Uresveratrol: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards it's definitely at 20:00 UTC but as no candidates are listed the meeting has probably been cancelled20:19
resveratrolOh I wasnt able to edit the Wiki20:19
resveratrolHad listed my application at the alternative venue20:19
PaulW2UOh dear :(20:20
PaulW2UProbably best to wait then20:20
resveratrolOkay I will wait another 30 minutes then, thanks PaulW2U20:25
resveratrolI am just worried the next meeting would be similarly canceled too as they couldn't see my application20:26
resveratrolHello, is anyone here for the Ubuntu membership meeting?20:55
resveratrolHello, is anyone here for the Ubuntu membership meeting?21:06
arraybolt3resveratrol: I think this is your application? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/angel-membership-application/33426/10 It sorta looks like it's supposed to happen as 22:00 UTC.21:12
arraybolt3Oh wait, you already know that. Sorry, my mistake.21:12
resveratrolYes, I applied for the 20:00 timing but no one was here....21:12
arraybolt3resveratrol: Do you need me to edit the Wiki for you?21:13
resveratrolOh yes, that would be great!21:13
resveratrolThank you so much21:13
arraybolt3Lemme see if it will let me log in, I can usually get it if I shake it just right...21:13
arraybolt3resveratrol: What name should I use? Just your user name on LP, "Angel"?21:15
arraybolt3(It let me in and I'm editing now.)21:15
resveratrolYes, thank you very much!21:15
arraybolt3resveratrol: I assume you don't have a Wiki page, what should I use in its place?21:16
arraybolt3I figure I'd just put your membership application Discourse post there.21:17
resveratrolYes, that would do.21:17
resveratrolI saw the edit, thanks so much!21:18
arraybolt3:) Glad to be able to help! Good luck!21:19
resveratrolThanks once again!21:19
diddledaniresveratrol: you must add your name to the wiki at least 24 hours before the meeting time you choose. Ideally you'd add your name with a week or more lead time to be sure that the entire board is able to see it in time to arrange to be at the meeting21:33
resveratrolHi, I added myself on 27 January 2023 for today's 20:00 meeting21:34
resveratrolNo one turned up here21:35
diddledaninobody told the board about that location - we use the wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards as the canonical source for candidate scheduling21:35
sarnoldit might be worth trying to get that post deleted21:36
resveratrolIt's stated there "Since we are still having issues with logging into our wiki pages, even with wiki editor privileges, we are setting this up as a backup so that candidates for membership can resume applying for their board meeting. If you can log into and edit the Membership Board Meeting 8 please do. If it’s not working, you can add yourself21:36
resveratrolhere. We’ll check both places!"21:36
diddledaniyes, we need a *single* location, not multiple locations21:36
resveratrolSo there isn't a board meeting in 20+ minutes time?21:37
diddledaninone of the board members are aware of your scheduled request, unfortunately :'(21:37
diddledaniI won't be able to wrangle enough board members to meet quorum :'(21:38
resveratrolOkay, thanks for the update. I had spent a few hours here already21:38
arraybolt3I'm guessing that this means that there's a miscommunication somewhere?21:38
arraybolt3i.e., whoever said "we'll check both places" may not have mentioned this to everyone else.21:39
resveratrolI have to wait till Feb 15 for the next board meeting?21:39
ograarraybolt3, "whoever" was te back then canonical community manager ... but she moved on ... looks like somethin was mssed at the handover21:50
resveratrolHello, is anyone from the Ubuntu membership board here?21:50
resveratrolDo I continue to wait here?21:50
diddledaniyou can try to email the board mailing list at ubuntu-membership-boards@lists.ubuntu.com to see if we can do a mailing list vote rather than live meeting as some processes have gone awry21:51
resveratrolThanks Dani!21:51
arraybolt3If any further wiki editing is needed, I'm here.21:52
ogradiddledani, btw, i'd rather suggest to drop the wiki page over the discourse one ... it can take weeks to get wiki editing access if you do not have it alredy when applying21:52
ogra(but that is indeed up to the membership board to decide πŸ™‚ )21:54
arraybolt3Not to mention the fact that logging into the Wiki is a bit like rolling dice :P21:54
ogra"proof your passion for membership by logging into the wiki, if you manage it in one of five tries membership is free !!"21:55
arraybolt3(And if you can reliably log in every time, tell us what you're doing differently so we can all start doing it too :P)21:56
* arraybolt3 stops going off-topic21:56
juliankadded "(not applicable right now, please use the wiki)" to the top21:57
sarnoldoh cripes I didn't think to check if *I* could edit her post22:01
resveratrolI had sent an email to the board, hope this works.22:01
resveratrolThanks to everyone here who had helped me22:01

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