slyon | o/ | 15:59 |
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bdrung | \o | 16:00 |
ginggs | o/ | 16:00 |
bdmurray | o/ | 16:00 |
liushuyu | o/ | 16:00 |
ogayot | o/ | 16:01 |
jawn-smith | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 16:01 |
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juliank | /o/ | 16:02 |
jawn-smith | The status is here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-02-february-2023/33657 | 16:02 |
jawn-smith | Let's all read and ask questions | 16:02 |
bdmurray | dbungert: so mini-iso-tools is the ? | 16:02 |
dbungert | it's a package with a similar use story to casper, to build stuff into an initrd | 16:03 |
dbungert | this is what's driving the boot-chooser feature on the new mini.iso work | 16:03 |
slyon | danilogondolfo: did you already push those final fixes for the vxlan PR (after my review)? | 16:04 |
danilogondolfo | slyon: not yet, finishing that right now | 16:05 |
slyon | excelent, thanks! | 16:05 |
jawn-smith | #topic Release incoming bugs | 16:09 |
jawn-smith | #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:09 |
jawn-smith | bug 2003331 | 16:09 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2003331 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Can't log in to lunar x11 session" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2003331 | 16:09 | |
jawn-smith | Looks like we discussed this last week | 16:09 |
jawn-smith | And it looks like a desktop team issue | 16:10 |
jawn-smith | Nothing for us to do, so moving on | 16:10 |
jawn-smith | bug 2002871 | 16:10 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2002871 in pkgbinarymangler (Ubuntu) "Failed pkgbinarymangler tests with python3.11" [Low, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2002871 | 16:10 | |
jawn-smith | waveform: you had mentioned looking into this, have you checked up on this at all? | 16:11 |
waveform | haven't had time this week unfortunately | 16:11 |
jawn-smith | Think you'll have time next week? | 16:11 |
waveform | yes, should do | 16:11 |
jawn-smith | Excellent, I'll leave that with you then | 16:11 |
jawn-smith | thanks | 16:11 |
jawn-smith | bug 2004272 | 16:12 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2004272 in dnspython (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-h2, httpx as dependencies of dnspython" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2004272 | 16:12 | |
slyon | Debian enabled DNS over Https (DOH) which requires lots of new dependencies (MIRs) | 16:13 |
jawn-smith | Some discussion of whether this should be handled this cycle or next | 16:14 |
slyon | Foundations needs to consider if we want to take responsibility for all those new dependency and do the MIRs (I disabled DOH for now to mitigate the MIRs) | 16:14 |
schopin | IMHO we should keep DOH disabled until someone asks us for the support. | 16:15 |
jawn-smith | Changing the tag to rls-mm-incoming so we remember to look into this next cycle | 16:15 |
jawn-smith | That's it for ll | 16:16 |
jawn-smith | Oh neat kk is empty | 16:16 |
jawn-smith | #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 16:17 |
jawn-smith | bug 1999345 | 16:17 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1999345 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "please add luks2 module to the signed grub2 images" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999345 | 16:17 | |
jawn-smith | juliank: still with security team? | 16:17 |
juliank | yeah | 16:17 |
jawn-smith | Okay then, it's been an easy day of bug discussions | 16:17 |
jawn-smith | #topic proposed-migration | 16:18 |
jawn-smith | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 16:18 |
jawn-smith | reprepo vs libarchive is with me | 16:19 |
jawn-smith | It's a tricky one | 16:19 |
jawn-smith | llvm-toolchain was with doko | 16:19 |
jawn-smith | datefudge vs coreutils, has anyone been looking into that? | 16:19 |
* jawn-smith reads logs | 16:20 | |
adrien | it's still the same status | 16:20 |
jawn-smith | Doesn't look like that was assigned to anyone last week | 16:20 |
jawn-smith | Oh is this the time64 thing? | 16:20 |
schopin | it is. | 16:20 |
jawn-smith | fun | 16:20 |
jawn-smith | Sounds like we're going to hint that one | 16:22 |
jawn-smith | There's a licensecheck related MIR, is someone working that? | 16:22 |
jawn-smith | Sounds like adrien is working on that | 16:23 |
jawn-smith | fuse3 vs ostree | 16:23 |
jawn-smith | Anyone interested in that? | 16:23 |
slyon | o/ | 16:23 |
jawn-smith | Thanks! | 16:24 |
jawn-smith | sbuild | 16:24 |
jawn-smith | sounds like a waveform thing | 16:24 |
jawn-smith | libcap2 seems to have an armhf regression | 16:25 |
jawn-smith | Is this also a time64 thing? | 16:25 |
slyon | danilogondolfo: ^ | 16:25 |
danilogondolfo | libcap2 is failing a test probably due to the test environment | 16:26 |
adrien | I hope it isn't! | 16:26 |
jawn-smith | Sounds like we're going to patch out the test that's failing on armhf | 16:28 |
jawn-smith | And danilogondolfo is working on that | 16:28 |
jawn-smith | grep vs dpdk: any volunteers? | 16:28 |
dbungert | I can take a look | 16:28 |
jawn-smith | Thanks! | 16:28 |
jawn-smith | setuptools has a few issues | 16:29 |
ginggs | i'l take them | 16:29 |
jawn-smith | All of them? | 16:29 |
ginggs | sure | 16:29 |
jawn-smith | Thanks! | 16:29 |
cpaelzer_ | what is wrong with "grep vs dpdk" ? | 16:29 |
bdmurray | I'm retrying ros-bloom and setup tools aon arm64 | 16:29 |
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jawn-smith | cpaelzer: there is a failing dpdk autopkgtest triggered by the new grep | 16:30 |
schopin | cpaelzer: dpdk tests failed when triggered by grep | 16:30 |
ginggs | cpaelzer: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#grep | 16:30 |
cpaelzer | schopin: I think I just fixed this in Debian, but we didn't upload/sync it yet | 16:30 |
jawn-smith | Then let's assign fontconfig vs openjdk-8 to vpa1977 | 16:30 |
jawn-smith | And that's it for proposed migration | 16:30 |
cpaelzer | checking, thanks for the link ginggs | 16:30 |
jawn-smith | #topic AOB | 16:31 |
bdrung | distro-info 1.4 fails to build on i386. How do I get mypy built on i386? | 16:32 |
ginggs | let's have a FTBFS party | 16:33 |
ginggs | https://people.canonical.com/~ginggs/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20221215-lunar-normal-lunar.html#foundations-bugs-team | 16:33 |
cpaelzer | schopin: ginggs: dbungert: the dpdk fail you see is not what I fixed (that was on armhf depending on which chip it ran on in test infra). | 16:34 |
cpaelzer | schopin: ginggs: dbungert: The one you have here is due to overload of the test environment - I've seen it and it happens rarely, but usually when the system hosting the test VM is quite loaded. | 16:34 |
dbungert | cpaelzer: ok, sounds like we should do a retry | 16:35 |
cpaelzer | schopin: ginggs: dbungert: maybe we should flag it as large/long test if not already done (haven't checked) | 16:35 |
jawn-smith | I can take icu | 16:35 |
dbungert | and that | 16:35 |
ginggs | it seems the announce did make it to the list https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2023-January/042404.html | 16:36 |
bdmurray | bdrung will take cracklib | 16:37 |
bdmurray | 2 | 16:37 |
ginggs | cross-toolchain-base sounds like one for doko | 16:37 |
ginggs | schopin will look at ec2-hibinit-agent and hibagent | 16:38 |
jbicha | hi, for AOB, will y'all be syncing ICU from Debian for 23.04? | 16:39 |
ginggs | vpa1977 is already assigned fontconfig for proposed migration | 16:39 |
jawn-smith | jbicha: I'll look into that sync as part of my work investigating the FTBFS | 16:40 |
ginggs | slyon is already got fuse3 for proposed migration | 16:40 |
ginggs | jawn-smith has got icu | 16:41 |
ginggs | anyone for mpdecimal? | 16:41 |
zhsj | i'll be back next week, so i can take something | 16:41 |
ogayot | I can take mpdecimal | 16:41 |
ginggs | ok, that's all of the, thanks everyone | 16:41 |
jawn-smith | #endmeeting | 16:42 |
meetingology | Meeting ended at 16:42:42 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-02-02-16.01.moin.txt | 16:42 |
cpaelzer | dbungert: I hope I made no mistake since doing so while at (virtual) sprint breaks but that should fix it in the long run https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-package-configs/+merge/436779 | 16:48 |
cpaelzer | dbungert: and until then a retrigger most likely solves it as well | 16:48 |
cpaelzer | did someone already hit retry for it? | 16:48 |
dbungert | yes, I ran the retrigger | 16:49 |
cpaelzer | ok, then I'm holding back | 16:53 |
cpaelzer | glad i asked :-) | 16:53 |
resveratrol | Is anyone here? | 18:19 |
resveratrol | Hello? Is anyone here? | 19:47 |
ogra | resveratrol, there will be, in 1:10h ... | 19:50 |
ogra | https://ubuntu-news.org/calendars/ | 19:50 |
resveratrol | Oh thanks for the reply. Its not at UTC 20:00? | 19:50 |
resveratrol | For considering Ubuntu membership? | 19:51 |
resveratrol | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards | 19:51 |
ogra | according t the fridge calendar it is 21:00 UTC | 19:51 |
ogra | *the | 19:52 |
ogra | bah ... | 19:52 |
ogra | *to the | 19:52 |
resveratrol | "The next 20:00 UTC meeting will be at Thursday, February 2nd, 2023 at 20:00:00 UTC on irc.libera.chat in #ubuntu-meeting." | 19:52 |
ogra | well, you will know in 8min π | 19:52 |
resveratrol | Okay thanks so much! ogra | 19:53 |
* ogra is sure *one* of them is right ... | 19:53 | |
resveratrol | I meant, this is my first IRC. Wouldn't the participants be logging in by now, if its at 20:00 UTC? | 19:54 |
ogra | most of them idle around here anyway, so i think not many actually "log in" ... but there will surely someone start to speak when the meeting starts | 19:56 |
resveratrol | In your link, I saw the meeting is held at 22:00 UTC, not 21:00? | 19:57 |
ogra | it should show in your local time, not UTC | 19:58 |
resveratrol | Is anyone logging in for the Ubuntu membership? Do I have to stay here for an hour or two? | 20:03 |
ogra | resveratrol, well, i guess if you come back at the full hour it should be enough | 20:04 |
resveratrol | Just to confirm, at 21:00 UTC, the meeting is about Ubuntu membership? | 20:06 |
ogra | that is what the fridge calendar says ... | 20:06 |
ogra | (it is usually correct) | 20:06 |
resveratrol | Thank you very much for your help ogra! | 20:07 |
ogra | π | 20:07 |
PaulW2U | resveratrol: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards it's definitely at 20:00 UTC but as no candidates are listed the meeting has probably been cancelled | 20:19 |
resveratrol | Oh I wasnt able to edit the Wiki | 20:19 |
resveratrol | Had listed my application at the alternative venue | 20:19 |
PaulW2U | Oh dear :( | 20:20 |
resveratrol | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/membership-board-meeting-signup/28226 | 20:20 |
PaulW2U | Probably best to wait then | 20:20 |
resveratrol | Okay I will wait another 30 minutes then, thanks PaulW2U | 20:25 |
resveratrol | I am just worried the next meeting would be similarly canceled too as they couldn't see my application | 20:26 |
resveratrol | Hello, is anyone here for the Ubuntu membership meeting? | 20:55 |
resveratrol | Hello, is anyone here for the Ubuntu membership meeting? | 21:06 |
arraybolt3 | resveratrol: I think this is your application? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/angel-membership-application/33426/10 It sorta looks like it's supposed to happen as 22:00 UTC. | 21:12 |
arraybolt3 | Oh wait, you already know that. Sorry, my mistake. | 21:12 |
resveratrol | Yes, I applied for the 20:00 timing but no one was here.... | 21:12 |
arraybolt3 | resveratrol: Do you need me to edit the Wiki for you? | 21:13 |
resveratrol | Oh yes, that would be great! | 21:13 |
resveratrol | Thank you so much | 21:13 |
arraybolt3 | Lemme see if it will let me log in, I can usually get it if I shake it just right... | 21:13 |
arraybolt3 | resveratrol: What name should I use? Just your user name on LP, "Angel"? | 21:15 |
arraybolt3 | (It let me in and I'm editing now.) | 21:15 |
resveratrol | Yes, thank you very much! | 21:15 |
arraybolt3 | resveratrol: I assume you don't have a Wiki page, what should I use in its place? | 21:16 |
arraybolt3 | I figure I'd just put your membership application Discourse post there. | 21:17 |
resveratrol | Yes, that would do. | 21:17 |
resveratrol | I saw the edit, thanks so much! | 21:18 |
arraybolt3 | :) Glad to be able to help! Good luck! | 21:19 |
resveratrol | Thanks once again! | 21:19 |
diddledani | resveratrol: you must add your name to the wiki at least 24 hours before the meeting time you choose. Ideally you'd add your name with a week or more lead time to be sure that the entire board is able to see it in time to arrange to be at the meeting | 21:33 |
resveratrol | Hi, I added myself on 27 January 2023 for today's 20:00 meeting | 21:34 |
resveratrol | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/membership-board-meeting-signup/28226 | 21:34 |
resveratrol | No one turned up here | 21:35 |
diddledani | nobody told the board about that location - we use the wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards as the canonical source for candidate scheduling | 21:35 |
sarnold | :( | 21:36 |
sarnold | it might be worth trying to get that post deleted | 21:36 |
resveratrol | It's stated there "Since we are still having issues with logging into our wiki pages, even with wiki editor privileges, we are setting this up as a backup so that candidates for membership can resume applying for their board meeting. If you can log into and edit the Membership Board Meeting 8 please do. If itβs not working, you can add yourself | 21:36 |
resveratrol | here. Weβll check both places!" | 21:36 |
diddledani | yes, we need a *single* location, not multiple locations | 21:36 |
resveratrol | So there isn't a board meeting in 20+ minutes time? | 21:37 |
diddledani | none of the board members are aware of your scheduled request, unfortunately :'( | 21:37 |
diddledani | I won't be able to wrangle enough board members to meet quorum :'( | 21:38 |
resveratrol | Okay, thanks for the update. I had spent a few hours here already | 21:38 |
arraybolt3 | I'm guessing that this means that there's a miscommunication somewhere? | 21:38 |
arraybolt3 | i.e., whoever said "we'll check both places" may not have mentioned this to everyone else. | 21:39 |
resveratrol | I have to wait till Feb 15 for the next board meeting? | 21:39 |
ogra | arraybolt3, "whoever" was te back then canonical community manager ... but she moved on ... looks like somethin was mssed at the handover | 21:50 |
ogra | *the | 21:50 |
resveratrol | Hello, is anyone from the Ubuntu membership board here? | 21:50 |
resveratrol | Do I continue to wait here? | 21:50 |
diddledani | you can try to email the board mailing list at ubuntu-membership-boards@lists.ubuntu.com to see if we can do a mailing list vote rather than live meeting as some processes have gone awry | 21:51 |
resveratrol | Thanks Dani! | 21:51 |
arraybolt3 | If any further wiki editing is needed, I'm here. | 21:52 |
ogra | diddledani, btw, i'd rather suggest to drop the wiki page over the discourse one ... it can take weeks to get wiki editing access if you do not have it alredy when applying | 21:52 |
ogra | (but that is indeed up to the membership board to decide π ) | 21:54 |
arraybolt3 | Not to mention the fact that logging into the Wiki is a bit like rolling dice :P | 21:54 |
ogra | "proof your passion for membership by logging into the wiki, if you manage it in one of five tries membership is free !!" | 21:55 |
ogra | *prove | 21:55 |
arraybolt3 | lol | 21:56 |
arraybolt3 | (And if you can reliably log in every time, tell us what you're doing differently so we can all start doing it too :P) | 21:56 |
* arraybolt3 stops going off-topic | 21:56 | |
juliank | added "(not applicable right now, please use the wiki)" to the top | 21:57 |
ogra | π | 21:58 |
sarnold | oh cripes I didn't think to check if *I* could edit her post | 22:01 |
resveratrol | I had sent an email to the board, hope this works. | 22:01 |
resveratrol | Thanks to everyone here who had helped me | 22:01 |
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