[15:59] <slyon> o/
[16:00] <bdrung> \o
[16:00] <ginggs> o/
[16:00] <bdmurray> o/
[16:00] <liushuyu> o/
[16:01] <ogayot> o/
[16:01] <jawn-smith> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[16:02] <juliank> /o/
[16:02] <jawn-smith> The status is here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-02-february-2023/33657
[16:02] <jawn-smith> Let's all read and ask questions
[16:02] <bdmurray> dbungert: so mini-iso-tools is the ?
[16:03] <dbungert> it's a package with a similar use story to casper, to build stuff into an initrd
[16:03] <dbungert> this is what's driving the boot-chooser feature on the new mini.iso work
[16:04] <slyon> danilogondolfo: did you already push those final fixes for the vxlan PR (after my review)?
[16:05] <danilogondolfo> slyon: not yet, finishing that right now
[16:05] <slyon> excelent, thanks!
[16:09] <jawn-smith> #topic Release incoming bugs
[16:09] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:09] <jawn-smith> bug 2003331
[16:09] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2003331 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Can't log in to lunar x11 session" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2003331
[16:09] <jawn-smith> Looks like we discussed this last week
[16:10] <jawn-smith> And it looks like a desktop team issue
[16:10] <jawn-smith> Nothing for us to do, so moving on
[16:10] <jawn-smith> bug 2002871
[16:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2002871 in pkgbinarymangler (Ubuntu) "Failed pkgbinarymangler tests with python3.11" [Low, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2002871
[16:11] <jawn-smith> waveform: you had mentioned looking into this, have you checked up on this at all?
[16:11] <waveform> haven't had time this week unfortunately
[16:11] <jawn-smith> Think you'll have time next week?
[16:11] <waveform> yes, should do
[16:11] <jawn-smith> Excellent, I'll leave that with you then
[16:11] <jawn-smith> thanks
[16:12] <jawn-smith> bug 2004272
[16:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2004272 in dnspython (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-h2, httpx as dependencies of dnspython" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2004272
[16:13] <slyon> Debian enabled DNS over Https (DOH) which requires lots of new dependencies (MIRs)
[16:14] <jawn-smith> Some discussion of whether this should be handled this cycle or next
[16:14] <slyon> Foundations needs to consider if we want to take responsibility for all those new dependency and do the MIRs (I disabled DOH for now to mitigate the MIRs)
[16:15] <schopin> IMHO we should keep DOH disabled until someone asks us for the support.
[16:15] <jawn-smith> Changing the tag to rls-mm-incoming so we remember to look into this next cycle
[16:16] <jawn-smith> That's it for ll
[16:16] <jawn-smith> Oh neat kk is empty
[16:17] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:17] <jawn-smith> bug 1999345
[16:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1999345 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "please add luks2 module to the signed grub2 images" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999345
[16:17] <jawn-smith> juliank: still with security team?
[16:17] <juliank> yeah
[16:17] <jawn-smith> Okay then, it's been an easy day of bug discussions
[16:18] <jawn-smith> #topic proposed-migration
[16:18] <jawn-smith> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:19] <jawn-smith> reprepo vs libarchive is with me
[16:19] <jawn-smith> It's a tricky one
[16:19] <jawn-smith> llvm-toolchain was with doko
[16:19] <jawn-smith> datefudge vs coreutils, has anyone been looking into that?
[16:20]  * jawn-smith reads logs
[16:20] <adrien> it's still the same status
[16:20] <jawn-smith> Doesn't look like that was assigned to anyone last week
[16:20] <jawn-smith> Oh is this the time64 thing?
[16:20] <schopin> it is.
[16:20] <jawn-smith> fun
[16:22] <jawn-smith> Sounds like we're going to hint that one
[16:22] <jawn-smith> There's a licensecheck related MIR, is someone working that?
[16:23] <jawn-smith> Sounds like adrien is working on that
[16:23] <jawn-smith> fuse3 vs ostree
[16:23] <jawn-smith> Anyone interested in that?
[16:23] <slyon> o/
[16:24] <jawn-smith> Thanks!
[16:24] <jawn-smith> sbuild
[16:24] <jawn-smith> sounds like a waveform thing
[16:25] <jawn-smith> libcap2 seems to have an armhf regression
[16:25] <jawn-smith> Is this also a time64 thing?
[16:25] <slyon> danilogondolfo: ^
[16:26] <danilogondolfo> libcap2 is failing a test probably due to the test environment
[16:26] <adrien> I hope it isn't!
[16:28] <jawn-smith> Sounds like we're going to patch out the test that's failing on armhf
[16:28] <jawn-smith> And danilogondolfo is working on that
[16:28] <jawn-smith> grep vs dpdk: any volunteers?
[16:28] <dbungert> I can take a look
[16:28] <jawn-smith> Thanks!
[16:29] <jawn-smith> setuptools has a few issues
[16:29] <ginggs> i'l take them
[16:29] <jawn-smith> All of them?
[16:29] <ginggs> sure
[16:29] <jawn-smith> Thanks!
[16:29] <cpaelzer_> what is wrong with "grep vs dpdk" ?
[16:29] <bdmurray> I'm retrying ros-bloom and setup tools aon arm64
[16:30] <jawn-smith> cpaelzer: there is a failing dpdk autopkgtest triggered by the new grep
[16:30] <schopin> cpaelzer: dpdk tests failed when triggered by grep
[16:30] <ginggs> cpaelzer: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#grep
[16:30] <cpaelzer> schopin: I think I just fixed this in Debian, but we didn't upload/sync it yet
[16:30] <jawn-smith> Then let's assign fontconfig vs openjdk-8 to vpa1977
[16:30] <jawn-smith> And that's it for proposed migration
[16:30] <cpaelzer> checking, thanks for the link ginggs
[16:31] <jawn-smith> #topic AOB
[16:32] <bdrung> distro-info 1.4 fails to build on i386. How do I get mypy built on i386?
[16:33] <ginggs> let's have a FTBFS party
[16:33] <ginggs> https://people.canonical.com/~ginggs/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20221215-lunar-normal-lunar.html#foundations-bugs-team
[16:34] <cpaelzer> schopin: ginggs: dbungert: the dpdk fail you see is not what I fixed (that was on armhf depending on which chip it ran on in test infra).
[16:34] <cpaelzer> schopin: ginggs: dbungert: The one you have here is due to overload of the test environment - I've seen it and it happens rarely, but usually when the system hosting the test VM is quite loaded.
[16:35] <dbungert> cpaelzer: ok, sounds like we should do a retry
[16:35] <cpaelzer> schopin: ginggs: dbungert: maybe we should flag it as large/long test if not already done (haven't checked)
[16:35] <jawn-smith> I can take icu
[16:35] <dbungert> and that
[16:36] <ginggs> it seems the announce did make it to the list https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2023-January/042404.html
[16:37] <bdmurray> bdrung will take cracklib
[16:37] <bdmurray> 2
[16:37] <ginggs> cross-toolchain-base sounds like one for doko
[16:38] <ginggs> schopin will look at ec2-hibinit-agent and hibagent
[16:39] <jbicha> hi, for AOB, will y'all be syncing ICU from Debian for 23.04?
[16:39] <ginggs> vpa1977 is already assigned fontconfig for proposed migration
[16:40] <jawn-smith> jbicha: I'll look into that sync as part of my work investigating the FTBFS
[16:40] <ginggs> slyon is already got fuse3 for proposed migration
[16:41] <ginggs> jawn-smith has got icu
[16:41] <ginggs> anyone for mpdecimal?
[16:41] <zhsj> i'll be back next week, so i can take something
[16:41] <ogayot> I can take mpdecimal
[16:41] <ginggs> ok, that's all of the, thanks everyone
[16:42] <jawn-smith> #endmeeting
[16:42] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 16:42:42 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-02-02-16.01.moin.txt
[16:48] <cpaelzer> dbungert: I hope I made no mistake since doing so while at (virtual) sprint breaks but that should fix it in the long run https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-package-configs/+merge/436779
[16:48] <cpaelzer> dbungert: and until then a retrigger most likely solves it as well
[16:48] <cpaelzer> did someone already hit retry for it?
[16:49] <dbungert> yes, I ran the retrigger
[16:53] <cpaelzer> ok, then I'm holding back
[16:53] <cpaelzer> glad i asked :-)
[18:19] <resveratrol> Is anyone here?
[19:47] <resveratrol> Hello? Is anyone here?
[19:50] <ogra> resveratrol, there will be, in 1:10h ...
[19:50] <ogra> https://ubuntu-news.org/calendars/
[19:50] <resveratrol> Oh thanks for the reply. Its not at UTC 20:00?
[19:51] <resveratrol> For considering Ubuntu membership?
[19:51] <resveratrol> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[19:51] <ogra> according t the fridge calendar it is 21:00 UTC
[19:52] <ogra> *the
[19:52] <ogra> bah ...
[19:52] <ogra> *to the
[19:52] <resveratrol> "The next 20:00 UTC meeting will be at Thursday, February 2nd, 2023 at 20:00:00 UTC on irc.libera.chat in #ubuntu-meeting."
[19:52] <ogra> well, you will know in 8min 😉
[19:53] <resveratrol> Okay thanks so much! ogra
[19:53]  * ogra is sure *one* of them is right ...
[19:54] <resveratrol> I meant, this is my first IRC. Wouldn't the participants be logging in by now, if its at 20:00 UTC?
[19:56] <ogra> most of them idle around here anyway, so i think not many actually "log in" ... but there will surely someone start to speak when the meeting starts
[19:57] <resveratrol> In your link, I saw the meeting is held at 22:00 UTC, not 21:00?
[19:58] <ogra> it should show in your local time, not UTC
[20:03] <resveratrol> Is anyone logging in for the Ubuntu membership? Do I have to stay here for an hour or two?
[20:04] <ogra> resveratrol, well, i guess if you come back at the full hour it should be enough
[20:06] <resveratrol> Just to confirm, at 21:00 UTC, the meeting is about Ubuntu membership?
[20:06] <ogra> that is what the fridge calendar says ...
[20:06] <ogra> (it is usually correct)
[20:07] <resveratrol> Thank you very much for your help ogra!
[20:07] <ogra> 🙂
[20:19] <PaulW2U> resveratrol: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards it's definitely at 20:00 UTC but as no candidates are listed the meeting has probably been cancelled
[20:19] <resveratrol> Oh I wasnt able to edit the Wiki
[20:19] <resveratrol> Had listed my application at the alternative venue
[20:20] <PaulW2U> Oh dear :(
[20:20] <resveratrol> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/membership-board-meeting-signup/28226
[20:20] <PaulW2U> Probably best to wait then
[20:25] <resveratrol> Okay I will wait another 30 minutes then, thanks PaulW2U
[20:26] <resveratrol> I am just worried the next meeting would be similarly canceled too as they couldn't see my application
[20:55] <resveratrol> Hello, is anyone here for the Ubuntu membership meeting?
[21:06] <resveratrol> Hello, is anyone here for the Ubuntu membership meeting?
[21:12] <arraybolt3> resveratrol: I think this is your application? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/angel-membership-application/33426/10 It sorta looks like it's supposed to happen as 22:00 UTC.
[21:12] <arraybolt3> Oh wait, you already know that. Sorry, my mistake.
[21:12] <resveratrol> Yes, I applied for the 20:00 timing but no one was here....
[21:13] <arraybolt3> resveratrol: Do you need me to edit the Wiki for you?
[21:13] <resveratrol> Oh yes, that would be great!
[21:13] <resveratrol> Thank you so much
[21:13] <arraybolt3> Lemme see if it will let me log in, I can usually get it if I shake it just right...
[21:15] <arraybolt3> resveratrol: What name should I use? Just your user name on LP, "Angel"?
[21:15] <arraybolt3> (It let me in and I'm editing now.)
[21:15] <resveratrol> Yes, thank you very much!
[21:16] <arraybolt3> resveratrol: I assume you don't have a Wiki page, what should I use in its place?
[21:17] <arraybolt3> I figure I'd just put your membership application Discourse post there.
[21:17] <resveratrol> Yes, that would do.
[21:18] <resveratrol> I saw the edit, thanks so much!
[21:19] <arraybolt3> :) Glad to be able to help! Good luck!
[21:19] <resveratrol> Thanks once again!
[21:33] <diddledani> resveratrol: you must add your name to the wiki at least 24 hours before the meeting time you choose. Ideally you'd add your name with a week or more lead time to be sure that the entire board is able to see it in time to arrange to be at the meeting
[21:34] <resveratrol> Hi, I added myself on 27 January 2023 for today's 20:00 meeting
[21:34] <resveratrol> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/membership-board-meeting-signup/28226
[21:35] <resveratrol> No one turned up here
[21:35] <diddledani> nobody told the board about that location - we use the wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards as the canonical source for candidate scheduling
[21:36] <sarnold> :(
[21:36] <sarnold> it might be worth trying to get that post deleted
[21:36] <resveratrol> It's stated there "Since we are still having issues with logging into our wiki pages, even with wiki editor privileges, we are setting this up as a backup so that candidates for membership can resume applying for their board meeting. If you can log into and edit the Membership Board Meeting 8 please do. If it’s not working, you can add yourself
[21:36] <resveratrol> here. We’ll check both places!"
[21:36] <diddledani> yes, we need a *single* location, not multiple locations
[21:37] <resveratrol> So there isn't a board meeting in 20+ minutes time?
[21:37] <diddledani> none of the board members are aware of your scheduled request, unfortunately :'(
[21:38] <diddledani> I won't be able to wrangle enough board members to meet quorum :'(
[21:38] <resveratrol> Okay, thanks for the update. I had spent a few hours here already
[21:38] <arraybolt3> I'm guessing that this means that there's a miscommunication somewhere?
[21:39] <arraybolt3> i.e., whoever said "we'll check both places" may not have mentioned this to everyone else.
[21:39] <resveratrol> I have to wait till Feb 15 for the next board meeting?
[21:50] <ogra> arraybolt3, "whoever" was te back then canonical community manager ... but she moved on ... looks like somethin was mssed at the handover
[21:50] <ogra> *the
[21:50] <resveratrol> Hello, is anyone from the Ubuntu membership board here?
[21:50] <resveratrol> Do I continue to wait here?
[21:51] <diddledani> you can try to email the board mailing list at ubuntu-membership-boards@lists.ubuntu.com to see if we can do a mailing list vote rather than live meeting as some processes have gone awry
[21:51] <resveratrol> Thanks Dani!
[21:52] <arraybolt3> If any further wiki editing is needed, I'm here.
[21:52] <ogra> diddledani, btw, i'd rather suggest to drop the wiki page over the discourse one ... it can take weeks to get wiki editing access if you do not have it alredy when applying
[21:54] <ogra> (but that is indeed up to the membership board to decide 🙂 )
[21:54] <arraybolt3> Not to mention the fact that logging into the Wiki is a bit like rolling dice :P
[21:55] <ogra> "proof your passion for membership by logging into the wiki, if you manage it in one of five tries membership is free !!"
[21:55] <ogra> *prove
[21:56] <arraybolt3> lol
[21:56] <arraybolt3> (And if you can reliably log in every time, tell us what you're doing differently so we can all start doing it too :P)
[21:56]  * arraybolt3 stops going off-topic
[21:57] <juliank> added "(not applicable right now, please use the wiki)" to the top
[21:58] <ogra> 👍
[22:01] <sarnold> oh cripes I didn't think to check if *I* could edit her post
[22:01] <resveratrol> I had sent an email to the board, hope this works.
[22:01] <resveratrol> Thanks to everyone here who had helped me