[15:59] o/ [16:00] \o [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:00] o/ [16:01] o/ [16:01] #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team [16:01] Meeting started at 16:01:37 UTC. The chair is jawn-smith. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:01] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [16:02] /o/ [16:02] The status is here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-02-february-2023/33657 [16:02] Let's all read and ask questions [16:02] dbungert: so mini-iso-tools is the ? [16:03] it's a package with a similar use story to casper, to build stuff into an initrd [16:03] this is what's driving the boot-chooser feature on the new mini.iso work [16:04] danilogondolfo: did you already push those final fixes for the vxlan PR (after my review)? [16:05] slyon: not yet, finishing that right now [16:05] excelent, thanks! [16:09] #topic Release incoming bugs [16:09] #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [16:09] bug 2003331 [16:09] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2003331 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Can't log in to lunar x11 session" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2003331 [16:09] Looks like we discussed this last week [16:10] And it looks like a desktop team issue [16:10] Nothing for us to do, so moving on [16:10] bug 2002871 [16:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2002871 in pkgbinarymangler (Ubuntu) "Failed pkgbinarymangler tests with python3.11" [Low, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2002871 [16:11] waveform: you had mentioned looking into this, have you checked up on this at all? [16:11] haven't had time this week unfortunately [16:11] Think you'll have time next week? [16:11] yes, should do [16:11] Excellent, I'll leave that with you then [16:11] thanks [16:12] bug 2004272 [16:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2004272 in dnspython (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-h2, httpx as dependencies of dnspython" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2004272 [16:13] Debian enabled DNS over Https (DOH) which requires lots of new dependencies (MIRs) [16:14] Some discussion of whether this should be handled this cycle or next [16:14] Foundations needs to consider if we want to take responsibility for all those new dependency and do the MIRs (I disabled DOH for now to mitigate the MIRs) [16:15] IMHO we should keep DOH disabled until someone asks us for the support. [16:15] Changing the tag to rls-mm-incoming so we remember to look into this next cycle [16:16] That's it for ll [16:16] Oh neat kk is empty [16:17] #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [16:17] bug 1999345 [16:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1999345 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "please add luks2 module to the signed grub2 images" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999345 [16:17] juliank: still with security team? [16:17] yeah [16:17] Okay then, it's been an easy day of bug discussions [16:18] #topic proposed-migration [16:18] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [16:19] reprepo vs libarchive is with me [16:19] It's a tricky one [16:19] llvm-toolchain was with doko [16:19] datefudge vs coreutils, has anyone been looking into that? [16:20] * jawn-smith reads logs [16:20] it's still the same status [16:20] Doesn't look like that was assigned to anyone last week [16:20] Oh is this the time64 thing? [16:20] it is. [16:20] fun [16:22] Sounds like we're going to hint that one [16:22] There's a licensecheck related MIR, is someone working that? [16:23] Sounds like adrien is working on that [16:23] fuse3 vs ostree [16:23] Anyone interested in that? [16:23] o/ [16:24] Thanks! [16:24] sbuild [16:24] sounds like a waveform thing [16:25] libcap2 seems to have an armhf regression [16:25] Is this also a time64 thing? [16:25] danilogondolfo: ^ [16:26] libcap2 is failing a test probably due to the test environment [16:26] I hope it isn't! [16:28] Sounds like we're going to patch out the test that's failing on armhf [16:28] And danilogondolfo is working on that [16:28] grep vs dpdk: any volunteers? [16:28] I can take a look [16:28] Thanks! [16:29] setuptools has a few issues [16:29] i'l take them [16:29] All of them? [16:29] sure [16:29] Thanks! [16:29] what is wrong with "grep vs dpdk" ? [16:29] I'm retrying ros-bloom and setup tools aon arm64 === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer [16:30] cpaelzer: there is a failing dpdk autopkgtest triggered by the new grep [16:30] cpaelzer: dpdk tests failed when triggered by grep [16:30] cpaelzer: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#grep [16:30] schopin: I think I just fixed this in Debian, but we didn't upload/sync it yet [16:30] Then let's assign fontconfig vs openjdk-8 to vpa1977 [16:30] And that's it for proposed migration [16:30] checking, thanks for the link ginggs [16:31] #topic AOB [16:32] distro-info 1.4 fails to build on i386. How do I get mypy built on i386? [16:33] let's have a FTBFS party [16:33] https://people.canonical.com/~ginggs/ftbfs-report/test-rebuild-20221215-lunar-normal-lunar.html#foundations-bugs-team [16:34] schopin: ginggs: dbungert: the dpdk fail you see is not what I fixed (that was on armhf depending on which chip it ran on in test infra). [16:34] schopin: ginggs: dbungert: The one you have here is due to overload of the test environment - I've seen it and it happens rarely, but usually when the system hosting the test VM is quite loaded. [16:35] cpaelzer: ok, sounds like we should do a retry [16:35] schopin: ginggs: dbungert: maybe we should flag it as large/long test if not already done (haven't checked) [16:35] I can take icu [16:35] and that [16:36] it seems the announce did make it to the list https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2023-January/042404.html [16:37] bdrung will take cracklib [16:37] 2 [16:37] cross-toolchain-base sounds like one for doko [16:38] schopin will look at ec2-hibinit-agent and hibagent [16:39] hi, for AOB, will y'all be syncing ICU from Debian for 23.04? [16:39] vpa1977 is already assigned fontconfig for proposed migration [16:40] jbicha: I'll look into that sync as part of my work investigating the FTBFS [16:40] slyon is already got fuse3 for proposed migration [16:41] jawn-smith has got icu [16:41] anyone for mpdecimal? [16:41] i'll be back next week, so i can take something [16:41] I can take mpdecimal [16:41] ok, that's all of the, thanks everyone [16:42] #endmeeting [16:42] Meeting ended at 16:42:42 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-02-02-16.01.moin.txt [16:48] dbungert: I hope I made no mistake since doing so while at (virtual) sprint breaks but that should fix it in the long run https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/autopkgtest-cloud/+git/autopkgtest-package-configs/+merge/436779 [16:48] dbungert: and until then a retrigger most likely solves it as well [16:48] did someone already hit retry for it? [16:49] yes, I ran the retrigger [16:53] ok, then I'm holding back [16:53] glad i asked :-) [18:19] Is anyone here? [19:47] Hello? Is anyone here? [19:50] resveratrol, there will be, in 1:10h ... [19:50] https://ubuntu-news.org/calendars/ [19:50] Oh thanks for the reply. Its not at UTC 20:00? [19:51] For considering Ubuntu membership? [19:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards [19:51] according t the fridge calendar it is 21:00 UTC [19:52] *the [19:52] bah ... [19:52] *to the [19:52] "The next 20:00 UTC meeting will be at Thursday, February 2nd, 2023 at 20:00:00 UTC on irc.libera.chat in #ubuntu-meeting." [19:52] well, you will know in 8min 😉 [19:53] Okay thanks so much! ogra [19:53] * ogra is sure *one* of them is right ... [19:54] I meant, this is my first IRC. Wouldn't the participants be logging in by now, if its at 20:00 UTC? [19:56] most of them idle around here anyway, so i think not many actually "log in" ... but there will surely someone start to speak when the meeting starts [19:57] In your link, I saw the meeting is held at 22:00 UTC, not 21:00? [19:58] it should show in your local time, not UTC [20:03] Is anyone logging in for the Ubuntu membership? Do I have to stay here for an hour or two? [20:04] resveratrol, well, i guess if you come back at the full hour it should be enough [20:06] Just to confirm, at 21:00 UTC, the meeting is about Ubuntu membership? [20:06] that is what the fridge calendar says ... [20:06] (it is usually correct) [20:07] Thank you very much for your help ogra! [20:07] 🙂 [20:19] resveratrol: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards it's definitely at 20:00 UTC but as no candidates are listed the meeting has probably been cancelled [20:19] Oh I wasnt able to edit the Wiki [20:19] Had listed my application at the alternative venue [20:20] Oh dear :( [20:20] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/membership-board-meeting-signup/28226 [20:20] Probably best to wait then [20:25] Okay I will wait another 30 minutes then, thanks PaulW2U [20:26] I am just worried the next meeting would be similarly canceled too as they couldn't see my application [20:55] Hello, is anyone here for the Ubuntu membership meeting? [21:06] Hello, is anyone here for the Ubuntu membership meeting? [21:12] resveratrol: I think this is your application? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/angel-membership-application/33426/10 It sorta looks like it's supposed to happen as 22:00 UTC. [21:12] Oh wait, you already know that. Sorry, my mistake. [21:12] Yes, I applied for the 20:00 timing but no one was here.... [21:13] resveratrol: Do you need me to edit the Wiki for you? [21:13] Oh yes, that would be great! [21:13] Thank you so much [21:13] Lemme see if it will let me log in, I can usually get it if I shake it just right... [21:15] resveratrol: What name should I use? Just your user name on LP, "Angel"? [21:15] (It let me in and I'm editing now.) [21:15] Yes, thank you very much! [21:16] resveratrol: I assume you don't have a Wiki page, what should I use in its place? [21:17] I figure I'd just put your membership application Discourse post there. [21:17] Yes, that would do. [21:18] I saw the edit, thanks so much! [21:19] :) Glad to be able to help! Good luck! [21:19] Thanks once again! [21:33] resveratrol: you must add your name to the wiki at least 24 hours before the meeting time you choose. Ideally you'd add your name with a week or more lead time to be sure that the entire board is able to see it in time to arrange to be at the meeting [21:34] Hi, I added myself on 27 January 2023 for today's 20:00 meeting [21:34] https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/membership-board-meeting-signup/28226 [21:35] No one turned up here [21:35] nobody told the board about that location - we use the wiki page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards as the canonical source for candidate scheduling [21:36] :( [21:36] it might be worth trying to get that post deleted [21:36] It's stated there "Since we are still having issues with logging into our wiki pages, even with wiki editor privileges, we are setting this up as a backup so that candidates for membership can resume applying for their board meeting. If you can log into and edit the Membership Board Meeting 8 please do. If it’s not working, you can add yourself [21:36] here. We’ll check both places!" [21:36] yes, we need a *single* location, not multiple locations [21:37] So there isn't a board meeting in 20+ minutes time? [21:37] none of the board members are aware of your scheduled request, unfortunately :'( [21:38] I won't be able to wrangle enough board members to meet quorum :'( [21:38] Okay, thanks for the update. I had spent a few hours here already [21:38] I'm guessing that this means that there's a miscommunication somewhere? [21:39] i.e., whoever said "we'll check both places" may not have mentioned this to everyone else. [21:39] I have to wait till Feb 15 for the next board meeting? [21:50] arraybolt3, "whoever" was te back then canonical community manager ... but she moved on ... looks like somethin was mssed at the handover [21:50] *the [21:50] Hello, is anyone from the Ubuntu membership board here? [21:50] Do I continue to wait here? [21:51] you can try to email the board mailing list at ubuntu-membership-boards@lists.ubuntu.com to see if we can do a mailing list vote rather than live meeting as some processes have gone awry [21:51] Thanks Dani! [21:52] If any further wiki editing is needed, I'm here. [21:52] diddledani, btw, i'd rather suggest to drop the wiki page over the discourse one ... it can take weeks to get wiki editing access if you do not have it alredy when applying [21:54] (but that is indeed up to the membership board to decide 🙂 ) [21:54] Not to mention the fact that logging into the Wiki is a bit like rolling dice :P [21:55] "proof your passion for membership by logging into the wiki, if you manage it in one of five tries membership is free !!" [21:55] *prove [21:56] lol [21:56] (And if you can reliably log in every time, tell us what you're doing differently so we can all start doing it too :P) [21:56] * arraybolt3 stops going off-topic [21:57] added "(not applicable right now, please use the wiki)" to the top [21:58] 👍 [22:01] oh cripes I didn't think to check if *I* could edit her post [22:01] I had sent an email to the board, hope this works. [22:01] Thanks to everyone here who had helped me