[00:50] <user|44> Tried to install kubuntu on my vizio desktop and getting "ubi-partman failed with exit code 141"
[00:51] <user|44> how do i fix that.
[00:53] <arraybolt3> user|44: Are you trying to install a dual-boot?
[00:53] <arraybolt3> Or are you wanting to replace the OS entirely?
[00:53] <user|44> no just want to do a complete reburn with kubuntu only. tired of windows
[00:54] <user|44> Yes. replace OS entirely
[00:54] <arraybolt3> K. Let me look up what that exit code means...
[00:54] <user|44> k
[00:55] <arraybolt3> Hmm, that actually might be difficult, ubi-partman is probably an internal component of Ubiquity, the installer Kubuntu uses.
[00:55] <arraybolt3> Let's try this. Are you able to open KDE Partition Manager?
[00:55] <user|44> how do i go about that currently back on windows. let me start kubuntu again and when i get to the error i can close screen and should be able to get to it
[00:56] <arraybolt3> user|44: You should be able to select "Try Kubuntu".
[00:56] <arraybolt3> That will allow you to run commands and programs from the installer.
[00:56] <user|44> yes give me two seconds
[00:56] <user|44> booting up
[00:58] <user|44> Try Kubuntu selected
[00:59] <user|44> opened KDE partition manager
[00:59] <arraybolt3> user|44: OK, click "New Partition Table", and select "GPT" as the partition table type.
[00:59] <user|44> done
[00:59] <arraybolt3> (We're going to see if this disk can be partitioned at al, or if maybe it's failing.)
[01:00] <arraybolt3> OK, next, try to create a new partition. Select ext4 as the filesystem.
[01:00] <user|44> create a new partition with GPT or MS-DOS
[01:00] <arraybolt3> Just a new partition, not a new partition table.
[01:00] <arraybolt3> You should be able to click a "New" button in the upper-left-hand corner of the screen.
[01:01] <arraybolt3> (The new partition table that we made at first was correct, we just want to add a partition to it.)
[01:01] <user|44> new button grayed out
[01:01] <arraybolt3> Can you click on the empty space of the drive and see if that makes the button available?
[01:01] <user|44> on;y option i have is new partition table on the right of the screen
[01:02] <arraybolt3> One moment, let me boot up a Kubuntu machine so I can see what you're seeing.
[01:02] <user|44> tried.  no joy
[01:03] <arraybolt3> Is this an SSD or an HDD, do you know?
[01:03] <user|44> no idea brother
[01:04] <arraybolt3> K, no problem. OK, so click "New Partition Table", then click "GPT" (it should be selected automatically), and then click "Create New Partition Table".
[01:04] <arraybolt3> That should make your disk space show up as "unallocated".
[01:04] <user|44> yep done and shows unloccated
[01:04] <arraybolt3> (Heh, I now see I misremembered what the screen looks like, that explains what happened.)
[01:05] <arraybolt3> OK, in the table, click on the unallocated space, then right-click on it and click "New".
[01:05] <user|44> done
[01:05] <arraybolt3> Then in "File System", select "ext4".
[01:05] <user|44> done
[01:05] <arraybolt3> And now "OK".
[01:05] <user|44> done
[01:06] <arraybolt3> Now click "Apply" in the upper-left corner, and then "Apply Pending Operations".
[01:06] <user|44> done
[01:06] <arraybolt3> If this works, we can probably chalk up the earlier failure to a random installer glitch or possibly a bad USB drive or DVD.
[01:06] <arraybolt3> OK, that worked?
[01:06] <user|44> yeah i am using a USB boot up
[01:06] <user|44> it did seecting okay
[01:07] <arraybolt3> OK. As one last check, can you run "sudo dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" and send the link that outputs? That will let me check and make sure your USB drive isn't corrupted.
[01:07] <arraybolt3> (There's a disk checker that runs when you boot the USB that will log messages if the drive is messed up.)
[01:07] <user|44> okay back on the main screenhow do i run that
[01:07] <arraybolt3> Open Konsole.
[01:08] <arraybolt3> Then type the command in, being careful not to make typos.
[01:08] <arraybolt3> (The | is a vertical bar character, it should be on the same key as the backslash.)
[01:08] <user|44> type on the search bar
[01:08] <arraybolt3> Search for "Konsole" in the search bar.
[01:08] <arraybolt3> Then click it to open it.
[01:08] <user|44> oh got it
[01:08] <user|44> stand by typing
[01:10] <user|44> does it have to be between " "
[01:10] <arraybolt3> No.
[01:10] <user|44>  and is there a space between dmesg and the vertical bar
[01:10] <arraybolt3> Yes.
[01:10] <user|44> okay
[01:11] <user|44> okay running it
[01:11] <user|44> it says temprary failure in name resolution
[01:11] <arraybolt3> Hmm... are you able to connect the system to the Internet and then try again?
[01:12] <arraybolt3> (It needs an Internet connection to upload the log data.)
[01:12] <user|44> standby not sure why its off right now connecting
[01:12] <arraybolt3> If that's not an option, that's fine, we can search the log with commands.
[01:12] <user|44> retyping
[01:13] <user|44> interet connected
[01:14] <user|44> it provided me with  https://termbin.com/0ih3
[01:14] <arraybolt3> Nice, looking...
[01:16] <arraybolt3> Wha...? Weird. Kubuntu appears to no longer do a disk check of the ISO at startup. I can't see it on my test machine now that I'm looking, nor do I see it in your log.
[01:16] <arraybolt3> OK, lemme search for I/O errors then...
[01:16] <user|44> k
[01:17] <arraybolt3> Everything looks good to me. I'd just try installing again and see if it works.
[01:17] <user|44> i tried like 5 times same error. should i just try again now that we have a new partition
[01:17] <arraybolt3> Oh wait, I found where the log is...
[01:17] <arraybolt3> OK, try "journalctl | nc termbin.com 9999" and send that link too.
[01:18] <arraybolt3> (I forget which log has what data sometimes...)
[01:18] <user|44> trying give me a secod so i dont make any erros
[01:18] <arraybolt3> No problem.
[01:19] <user|44> https://termbin.com/doi2
[01:20] <user|44> thats the link it gave me this time around
[01:20] <arraybolt3> Tar.
[01:20] <arraybolt3> Well there's the problem.
[01:20] <arraybolt3> "Feb 03 00:57:28 kubuntu casper-md5check[1409]: Checking ./pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dev_2.36-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb..../pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-dev_2.36-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb: mismatch"
[01:21] <user|44> any way to correct that
[01:21] <arraybolt3> Apparently the ISO either didn't download right, or when it copied to the flash drive it got corrupted.
[01:21] <arraybolt3> So... do you happen to have a second flash drive?
[01:21] <user|44> not a new one. cant i just reformat this one
[01:21] <user|44> and down load again
[01:22] <arraybolt3> You can, if you have a second computer to do it from.
[01:23] <arraybolt3> (If you don't have a second computer, there are workarounds.)
[01:23] <user|44> i tried a few down loads. yes i can do it from the laptops i am using now. give me 2 minutes to format, download kubuntu and the rufus
[01:23] <arraybolt3> Oh hey!
[01:23] <arraybolt3> You're using Rufus?
[01:23] <arraybolt3> If so, make sure that you write the image in "DD mode".
[01:23] <arraybolt3> Not in the normal ISO writing mode.
[01:23] <user|44> yes
[01:23] <arraybolt3> That might affect things.
[01:24] <user|44> okay let me look it up. thats  probably what happened i think i used it on ISO mode
[01:24] <arraybolt3> Yeah, that may cause it to get a bit scrambled.
[01:24] <arraybolt3> But yeah, download the ISO, flash it in DD mode, and try again, should work. If it still doesn't work, get a new flash drive and try using it.
[01:25] <user|44> reformatting
[01:26] <user|44> quick format okay
[01:26] <arraybolt3> If you write the ISO in DD mode, you shouldn't even need to format, but there's no harm in doing so.
[01:26] <user|44> just did it downloading kubuntu
[01:27] <user|44> may take a few minutes
[01:28] <user|44> rufus 3.21 or 3.21 protable or does is atter
[01:28] <user|44> matter
[01:28] <arraybolt3> I don't think it matters.
[01:28] <user|44> k
[01:30] <user|44> few minutes left
[01:34] <user|44> so i dont see the option of dd mode. just gives me device, boot selection (which i selected kubuntu)
[01:34] <user|44> partition schme is MBR or GPT
[01:35] <arraybolt3> user|44: Hmm, it should ask what mode to flash the ISO in at some point.
[01:35] <user|44> I am assuming GPT as I selected MBR previously
[01:35] <arraybolt3> Rufus can sometimes be a bit confusing this way. I personally prefer balenaEtcher.
[01:35] <user|44> okay let me download that instead
[01:35] <arraybolt3> https://www.balena.io/etcher
[01:36] <user|44> for windows or linux. assuming linux
[01:37] <arraybolt3> Depends on the OS your system is currently running.
[01:37] <arraybolt3> If you were using Rufus, you probably are running Windows on this laptop, so you want the Windows version of Etcher.
[01:37] <user|44> so balena is the USB booter right
[01:37] <arraybolt3> (There aren't separate versions of Etcher depending on the ISO you want to flash, the separate versions are for the kind of computer it runs on.)
[01:38] <user|44> i am running indows
[01:38] <user|44> so will download windows
[01:38] <arraybolt3> balenaEtcher is the thing that can write the ISO to the flash drive so you can then boot from the flash drive. It's basically like Rufus, only more intuitive in my experience, and with not as many features.
[01:38] <user|44> opening belena
[01:39] <user|44> selecting flash from drive
[01:41] <user|44> is the target the drive or kubuntu download
[01:41] <arraybolt3> The file yo uselect should be the Kubuntu download, the target would be the drive.
[01:41] <user|44> got it flashing backwords from rufus but easier
[01:42] <user|44> 3 minutes to completion
[01:42] <user|44> thanks for hanging in there. You are awesome
[01:42] <arraybolt3> Glad to help!
[01:42] <user|44> I would have never figured this out on my own
[01:43] <arraybolt3> :) We all start there. You should have seen my first experiments with Linux. They were... interesting. :P
[01:44] <user|44> First time with Linux
[01:45] <user|44> some learning curve there
[01:45] <user|44> 65%
[01:45] <arraybolt3> Once it finishes flashing, it will verify the drive to make sure it wrote correctly, which should reduce the chances that you end up with a bad drive again.
[01:46] <user|44> 85%
[01:46] <user|44> lets hope it works this time arouns
[01:47] <user|44> validating
[01:49] <user|44> 50%
[01:50] <user|44> complete
[01:51] <user|44> will boot up desktop now
[01:51] <arraybolt3> Nice. I'll still be here to help if anything else goes wrong (unless something important comes up elsewhere).
[01:52] <user|44> alright lets see what happens
[01:56] <user|44> This definetely different than the previous times. It is actually taking some time for the the kubutu logo to go away prior to providing me the try or install option
[01:57] <arraybolt3> Sounds hopeful!
[01:58] <user|44> installing
[02:00] <user|44> no error this ime
[02:00] <user|44> selecting guided resize on disk set up
[02:01] <arraybolt3> \o/
[02:01] <user|44> Which option shoudl i selected . Use entire disk
[02:01] <user|44> ?
[02:01] <arraybolt3> user|44: I'd use the entire disk.
[02:01] <user|44> i want to get rid of windows completely
[02:02] <user|44> okay
[02:02] <arraybolt3> Install alongside will keep Windows, using the entire disk will wipe it.
[02:02] <user|44> yep i am going to wipe it
[02:04] <user|44> alright. installing. where can i leave a great review for you
[02:04] <arraybolt3> lol, no need to (and I don't know how one would do that anyway).
[02:04] <arraybolt3> The room just has a bunch of people who like to help in their spare time.
[02:04] <user|44> Thank you so much for sticking with me. You have been of great help. Have a great weekend
[02:05] <arraybolt3> You too!
[02:05] <user|44> C'ya
[02:05] <arraybolt3> Good luck, and if something goes awry let us know.
[02:05] <user|44> okay will do. thank you
[06:19] <Shwifty> Hi folks. I have a question about partitioning hard drives if anyone is capable of answering for me. I've checked all documentation and haven't seen the answer for it.
[06:21] <Shwifty> My question is when I go to partition my hard drive, should I go ahead an preset the partitions prior to installing from my usb? I already have far more partitions than Id like to have on my hard drive and I'm trying to mitigate any lasting issues.
[06:29] <alkisg> Shwifty: can you rephrase the question? Do you want to reuse existing partitions? Delete? Merge?
[06:29] <alkisg> In general, the installer has limited support for partitioning
[06:29] <alkisg> But you can run gparted or kparted etc, and prepare stuff the way you want, and then tell the installer to use the partitions you made
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:56] <MrSassyPants> is there a debug mode for dolphin ?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> MrSassyPants:  have you updayed/upgraded lately, if not, do so.
[14:05] <MrSassyPants> I'm on 22.04
[14:06] <BluesKaj> updated even
[14:09] <BluesKaj> yes, run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade to update your system/packages  within the current OS version
[14:12] <MrSassyPants> um yeah the problem I have with dolphin has persisted through several update/upgrade cycles over the past weeks
[14:19] <BluesKaj> !debug
[14:20] <MrSassyPants> ctrl-f dolphin -> 0 results
[19:57] <beastwick> Besides difference in release timeline and differing base. How does Debian + KDE differ from Kubuntu? I am a fan on Debian and have some negative opinions of Ubuntu, but as I enjoy KDE I am curious about Kubuntu.
[21:08] <fabrizio> hello
[21:38] <Dragnslcr> beastwick- those are probably the biggest differences, but they're pretty significant differences
[23:06] <mmikowski> beastwick: The big difference between Debian + KDE vs. Kubuntu is that the latter benefits from Ubuntu hardware support and testing.
[23:07] <mmikowski> As you might gather, having multiple customers that require systems work on their hardware is a great motivator to curate things like kernels.
[23:11] <mmikowski> When supporting Kubuntu Focus, we found an Intel framebuffer issue that caused screen flicker (usually after wake). Thanks to the support of Ubuntu kernel maintainers and Intel, we were able to assemble a patch that made it into the OEM kernel which fixed the issue for many device models.  While I believe that patch eventually made its way back to
[23:11] <mmikowski> the mainline kernel, it certainly made it to Ubuntu first. I suspect that is the case for many hw fixes. I've also heard the hw support is better in Ubuntu from others. So my $0.02. I hope that is helpful.
[23:12] <genii> *buntu patches often also get pushed upstream to Debian and thgen propagated to other Debian derived distributions