[00:21] Guest76, did you check secureboot? [00:21] Secureboot is enabled [00:21] (that is if your bios is happy to boot things that aren't signed by our lord and saviour, sir jesus christ) [00:22] But I didnt have password set on hard drive [00:22] does that matter? [00:22] idk there's probably a manual or something [00:22] :) [00:23] advice here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/New-T470-Trying-to-get-F12-menu-to-boot-Linux-from-USB-or-Second/td-p/3706396 [00:24] '2) In BIOS disabled Secure Boot, set it to UEFI + Legacy Boot combo, and set it to boot from Legacy first / UEFI second.' [00:25] (but you will spend eternity in the burning hellfires of damnation. imho it's a price worth paying for the worldly power of penguins and terrible sound subsystems.) [00:34] @nsh will i need to reinstall Linux after all that is said and done? [00:34] Guest76: What's happening? [00:35] Boot loop... [00:35] nsh: Please stick to support. [00:35] on Lenovo T470s [00:36] Guest76: Do you happen to have an option in your boot menu to boot from an EFI file? [00:36] I've had certain systems have a bit of trouble booting a new Ubuntu installation, but if I can get them to boot an EFI file, I can point it to the shimx64.efi file and it works. [00:37] And if that works, then you might be able to find a "Customized Boot" option in your BIOS that will allow you to get it to boot Ubuntu automatically. [00:40] (I doubt that disabling Secure Boot will help here, it seems more likely that your system may be trying to boot with a "Windows Boot Manager" EFI entry, which caused a similar problem for me on an HP Elitebook.) [00:41] What is "Enroll MOK" [00:41] hey [00:41] howddya do power management things [00:42] my friend's ubuntu starts to rush fans on 100% after he plugs in the charger and it's really annoying [00:42] Guest76: You usually see that screen if you're trying to get third-party drivers working with Secure Boot. [00:42] Oh ok [00:42] So options are... "Continue Boot, Enroll MOK, Enroll key from disk, enroll hash from disk" [00:42] which option do I pick? Enroll MOK? [00:42] Guest76: I'd pick Enroll MOK. [00:43] You will probably need to enter a password that you entered during the Ubuntu installation process. [00:43] "View Key 0" or "Continue" [00:43] Guest76: Continue. [00:43] enroll the keys? Yes/No? [00:43] Guest76: I'd pick Yes. [00:44] This is the point where it will ask you for the password. [00:44] then reboot [00:44] (If I'm remembering correctly.) [00:44] Yep. [00:44] I'm guessing you have a weird WiFi card or an NVIDIA card? [00:44] who me? [00:45] its still boot looping :( [00:46] Guest76: Did you find a "Boot from EFI file" option? [00:46] Where do I find that? [00:46] Do you know how to find your system's boot menu? [00:46] Yes "Choose a temporary start up device"? [00:46] Usually there's a key you can press during early setup (a lot of times it's Esc) that will give you a menu of options. [00:46] Yeah, select that, then is there a "Boot from File" option or something? [00:47] Windows Boot Manager, NVME: Intel SSDPEKKF256G8L, PCI LAN [00:47] Guest76: Yeah, that's probably what's causing your boot loop. [00:47] Did I screw up the linux install? [00:48] omg.. [00:48] Nah. SOme hardward is just finicky. [00:48] Kreyren: Sorry, was caught up in a previous support session, we can see you and hopefully try to help if possible. [00:48] Wahts the issue? Linux don't play well with Intel brand SSDs? [00:49] arraybolt3, i was more like terrified about the suggestion you are giving to him and deciding if i want to help or not tbh~ [00:49] Guest76: No, there's some EFI implementations that can't figure out that you shouldn't keep trying to boot Windows when Linux is installed. [00:50] Terrified? Why? [00:50] Kreyren: How so? [00:51] (fwiw I've done this a few times without problems, and we're not doing anything that we can't undo from the BIOS setup or a live ISO, in fact what I'm suggesting you do now won't even do anything permanent.) [00:51] from what i read you forgot to advise him to reconfigure grub so it's probably doing bad things bcs of it or tell him to send a screenshot of the kernel console unless ubuntu puts eye candy over it [00:52] Kreyren: If Windows Boot Manager is causing a boot loop, GRUB and the Linux kernel aren't even loading, so that's not going to help us much. [00:52] replace the windows boot manager then bcs it's designed to mess with linux and impossible to make work [00:53] it will mess up with grub and linux too when kept in one system [00:53] the only good solution i am aware of is xen [00:53] Kreyren: No offense, but do you even know what you're saying? [00:54] yesh i have 15 years of experience in computer science and deal with windows boot manager twice a week in linux room on matrix xD [00:54] It seems like you've confused the operating system, the firmware, and a random hypervisor that isn't even involved here. [00:55] Guest76: Are you still there? [00:56] Guest76: Is there any entry other than "Windows Boot Manager" in your boot menu? [00:56] is that a windows issue? and if it's dual booting windows and linux distro then xen is the only robust solutio nthat doesn't break to my knowledge [00:56] NVme: Intel SSD [00:56] and PCI lan [00:56] Kreyren: This is getting annoying. If you have a tangible suggestion to get things going, please share it. Otherwise, please stop interfering. [00:56] <Kreyren> howddya do power management things [00:56] <Kreyren> my friend's ubuntu starts to rush fans on 100% after he plugs in the [00:56] then tell me how to fix this~ [00:57] Guest76: Hmm. Try selecting the NVMe SSD and see if that works. [00:57] Kreyren: Have you looked into TLP? [00:57] issue persists... [00:57] arraybolt3, dunno what TLP is [00:58] Kreyren: https://github.com/linrunner/TLP It's available in Ubuntu's software repositories. [00:58] its a battery power management utility [00:59] Guest76: Hmm. If you go into your BIOS setup, is there anything about the system's boot order in there? And if so, do you see an entry called "Customized Boot"? [00:59] told em to try thanku~ [00:59] loading up bios now [00:59] Startup Tab... [01:00] Boot Priority Order [01:00] 1. Windows Boot Mgr [01:00] 2. USB CD [01:00] 3. USB FDD [01:00] 4 NVME Intel SSD [01:00] 5. ATA HDD0 [01:00] Oy. If you need to post multiple lines to the channel, you can use something like dpaste.com to store them and then send a link to them. [01:01] (An anti-flooding bot muted you for 60 seconds, sorry for the inconvenience. Sometimes people paste HUUUUGE things that take hours to clear out, the bot helps with that.) [01:02] OK, should be unmuted now. [01:02] oops sorry about that lol [01:03] Heh, no problem. If you could paste that same list into a pastebin and send it via a link, that would be awesome. [01:03] Options are Windows Boot Mgr, USB CD, USB FDD, NVME0 Intel SSD, ATA HDD0, USB HDD, PCI LAN [01:03] Hmm. Is there *anything* about "Customized Boot" in the BIOS? Even in a place other than the boot menu? [01:04] I recall seeing that somewhere,... but not sure where to find it... one moment while I poke around [01:04] There is a "Boot Order Lock" [01:04] That's probably not what we want. [01:04] In fact that might complicate things :P [01:05] (also, is this a dual-boot configuration, or did you replace the existing OS with Ubuntu entirely?) [01:05] Replacing entirely [01:05] Not a dual boot [01:05] K, then this should be doable without too much trouble once we find the right option. If it's really stubborn, there's another workaround. [01:07] UEFI Bios Version N1WET68W 1.47 [01:07] Not sure if that helps [01:08] Sigh. OK. Let's abandon this workaround and try to get the boot files where the EFI expects them to be, since it apparently can't figure out where they already are. [01:08] Can you boot into a live ISO? [01:09] Sure can [01:09] Guest76: OK, oh wait before we do that... [01:09] (sigh, I forgot a step :P) [01:09] Guest76: This might require that we turn Secure Boot off. [01:10] Is that possible on your system, or is Secure Boot locked on? [01:10] not locked, just disabled it [01:10] booting into live iso [01:10] Nice, then hopefully this next workaround should work. [01:11] Start Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon 64 Bit or Start Linux Mint 21.1 Cinnamon 64 bit (Compatability mode), OEM Install (for manufacturers) Boot from next volume, UEFI Firmware Settings? [01:12] Oh, at the beginning I was trying to get it to work with kubuntu, so i gave up and tried it with Mint, but same issue, hence why at the beginning i mentioned i was installing kubuntu, and now its Mint [01:13] Guest76: Hmm... this should be the same on either Ubuntu or Mint, but Mint *may* have some differences from Ubuntu that might make this not work. [01:13] I can go flash the USB with Kubuntu again [01:13] its no issue [01:13] OK. If that's OK, that would make things more reliable. [01:14] set rufus to GPT right? [01:15] I don't use Rufus, so I don't really know that answer :P I think DD mode is supposedly the best way to do this though. [01:16] (Though I don't know how to select DD mode in Rufus, I just know that that's an option at some point.) === docmax_ is now known as docmax [01:26] ok,... loading up kubuntu live iso === Guest48 is now known as keyhaxa [01:27] are you wanting me to basically reinstall kubuntu? [01:27] or try it? [01:28] Guest76: Just try it. [01:28] Hello folks. [01:28] We're just going to look at the EFI files and see what we need to do to make it boot. [01:28] LikWidChzz: o/ [01:29] OK [01:29] You just said a word on why I joined, EFI. SO dumb question. How do you install ubuntu without UEFI enabled? [01:29] open terminal? [01:30] Guest76: Yep. [01:30] LikWidChzz: Ubuntu installs on BIOS systems just fine. It will make an EFI partition for reasons I do not understand, but it should just install. [01:30] LikWidChzz: If you want to install without UEFI, make sure that you have Legacy mode enabled in your BIOS so that the system can successfully boot from a BIOS installation of Ubuntu. [01:30] well it does just install, no issue there, however it doesnt boot :) [01:31] LikWidChzz: Is your system BIOS? [01:31] LikWidChzz: How the installers boot is determined by the firmware (Bios). [01:31] yeah ive been monkeying around with that all afternoon [01:31] usually installing any linux isnt this much of a PITA. [01:31] LikWidChzz: Hmm... can you boot into a live ISO and run "[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS" in a terminal (without the quote marks)? [01:31] That will tell us if the system is booted in BIOS or EFI mode. [01:32] good call out, one sec [01:32] pr to set your expectations, give me multiple secs. [01:32] :) No problem, booting an ISO always takes multiple secs. [01:32] jeebus what a time suck 2.0 today. [01:33] Guest76: Once you have a terminal open, can you run "lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999" and send the link that spits out so I can see your partition layout? [01:34] its not how the usb bootable iso was built was it? [01:35] LikWidChzz: No. It's always (that I've heard of) related to the boot mode used when you first boot the ISO. [01:35] my install failed fyi nothing new, booting into live again and ill open a shell. [01:35] okay this is an oldy laptop fyi [01:35] its funny, it booted ONCE in uefi mode on its own and I rebooted and the finger [01:35] (EFI systems can oftentimes boot in BIOS mode on accident if you select the wrong option in the boot menu when booting the ISO. Basically if we see a mismatch between your system type and your partition layout, you should be able to boot using the right mode, then reinstall, and it should work.) [01:36] did something change between this version of unbuntu and the last? [01:37] It depends on what version of Ubuntu you're booting. [01:37] 22.04 [01:37] In 22.04, there was a change made (I believe) that now both BIOS and EFI systems use GRUB to boot the ISO. [01:37] Previously ISOLINUX was used for BIOS systems. [01:37] However this shouldn't cause this problem. [01:37] I love antiquated shit thou. [01:37] okay booted into live and will run this command, one secs [01:38] (Just as a sidenote, we generally try to keep the language family-friendly in here for the sake of other users.) [01:38] Appologies sir! [01:40] that command doesnt work, I run it and it just writes BIOS to the screen [01:40] [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS [01:40] That actually did work :) [01:40] It means your system is booted in BIOS mode. [01:40] lol well then. [01:40] OK, can you run "lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999" and share the link it outputs? [01:41] That will show me your partition layout and tell me if it installed in BIOS or EFI mode. [01:41] (I'm suspecting it's installed in EFI mode.) [01:42] ooh hows about that [01:42] termbin.com/1bjw [01:43] this is the live boot enviroment btw [01:43] Oh weird. That's a BIOS installation. [01:43] (I can tell becaues of the tiny 1M partition at the beginning.) [01:44] well I made that with a custom install [01:44] frankly I am not attached to it and can start over. [01:44] OK, lemme think... [01:44] want me to do the basic install wiping everything, then run this syntax again? [01:44] I did some custom partitions btw thinking it would be the fix [01:44] Let's try a basic install wiping everything first, then reboot and see if it works. [01:45] sure [01:45] (Also check and make very sure that EFI mode is disabled in your BIOS if it fails to boot.) [01:45] its an HP8560w [01:46] selecting the 3rd option "erase disk and install ubuntu" [01:49] well its choochin away now. Its kind of bonkers, I have never had this much problem installing ubuntu since its inception [01:50] !uefi | LikWidChzz [01:50] LikWidChzz: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [01:50] I dont want anything to do with UEFI though. [01:52] LikWidChzz: Uh Huh -- me 2, We gots to tell the firmware we wants to boot always non-EFI :D [01:52] maybe im old and I dont like a lot of new stuff or changes. [01:52] weak sauce. [01:53] EFI would be great if it didn't break so frequently :P [01:53] hah someone should contact them and have them make a new iso that has nothing to do with it for us old farts. [01:54] arraybolt3, its installing btw, shouldnt be too much longer before I try and reboot. [01:55] Nice :) [01:55] LikWidChzz: btw if you want an ISO that might handle BIOS a bit better, Lubuntu uses a more traditional method of installation for BIOS systems that might work if this fails. [01:55] whats that? [01:56] LikWidChzz: Got this Asus box I moved my old drives from obsolete system - took me some time to figure out how to set to boot CCSM mode. [01:56] It's an official flavor of Ubuntu that uses the LXQt desktop rather than GNOME. [01:56] https://lubuntu.me/ [01:56] Oh well the gnome desktop is fine [01:57] It also features a different installer that does things a bit differently (for instance it uses a traditional MBR partition table and doesn't make an EFI partition on BIOS systems). [01:57] Whereas Ubuntu's installer will try and make BIOS systems work with GPT (which usually works), and also makes an EFI partition for reasons I do not understand. [01:57] Anyway, we'll try and make Ubuntu work first, Lubuntu is just a possible other solution if this doesn't work. [01:58] well the other option is an older version and never upgrade [01:58] getting into the live boot again, one momento [02:00] My bluetooth mouse stopped working on 20.04LTS after the last reboot. The gnome bluetooth dialog shows bluetooth to be off. On dmesg I see the following error : [ 6.772914] Bluetooth: hci0: Reading Intel version command failed (-110), [ 6.772920] Bluetooth: hci0: command 0xfc05 tx timeout - systemctl status bluetooth.service - shows service running. Any ideas on how to fix this and what went wrong? [02:02] arraybolt3, -- take a look at this. From an Ubuntu installed on the HDD (neither liveCD nor liveUSB), open a terminal (Ctrl+Alt+T), then type the following command: [02:02] [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy boot on HDD [02:03] I am in the live envbiroment and cant boot off a drive after install. [02:03] LikWidChzz: OK, so it still won't work, hmm... [02:04] there is no change, it cant boot on its own so not sure if that command you had me run is of any use. [02:04] It just showed whether it was a BIOS or EFI boot for debugging. [02:05] I'm guessing something about the "bios_grub" partition just isn't working on this system. [02:06] Let me see if there's a way to install Ubuntu Desktop with a normal MBR setup. [02:08] gracias [02:10] Gah. I don't have an Ubuntu 22.04 ISO downloaded >_< Hold on, this may take a while... [02:10] https://termbin.com/r1wfx [02:12] what a pain [02:14] back [02:14] sorry [02:14] had to feed my toddler and change his diaper [02:15] LikWidChzz: My obsevation - if ya booting bios mode then that sda1 partition is not needed. Is that the issue here ? [02:15] Guest76: No problem :) [02:16] Bashing-om: Isn't that sda1 partition the bios_grub partition? I thought that was required with GPT systems. [02:16] https://termbin.com/o9bw [02:16] I have no idea Bashing-om im just doing the default install [02:17] arraybolt3: That is a thought ~ not sure as I have not done a GPT install :( [02:17] Ill just install UEFI and try booting again to it [02:18] or enable UEFI and try it again with the install [02:18] I have a weird one, I just installed Ubuntu 22.04, with the lvm option and chose encrypted disk. when I switch to the NVIDIA drivers, I can't see the prompt after grub launched the OS. If I type in the password it does in fact boot, but I can't see the prompt. is there any work around for this? [02:18] LikWidChzz: I'm downloading the 22.04.1 ISO at the moment and seeing if I can make things work. [02:18] okay cool thank you so much for your assistance. [02:20] I tried the disable graphical terminal line, GRUB_TERMINAL=console, but that didn't do anything [02:22] arraybolt3 did you check out the termbin? [02:24] Guest76: Not yet, actually ,lemme do that. [02:24] (Sorry, got distracted.) [02:25] no its fine, i just didnt know if you saw I posted it [02:26] Guest76: OK, so I'm thinking, let's just do this the easy way. Can you do "sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt" and then "ls -R /mnt"? [02:27] Er, "ls -R /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999" [02:29] "/,mnt: (Next Line) EFI [02:30] arraybolt3 https://termbin.com/zzsb7 [02:31] Guest76: OK, this may be a bit drastic, but can you now do "sudo mv /mnt/EFI/BOOT /mnt/EFI/bootBackup"? [02:31] What does that do? [02:32] done [02:32] it makes a copy of your boot file. [02:32] That should get old, possibly interfering boot files out of the way without deleting them. [02:32] Ok now what? [02:32] Next, can you do "efibootmgr | nc termbin.com 9999" and send that link? [02:33] That will let me see if the next step is likely to work or not. [02:33] https://termbin.com/xkgc [02:35] Holy smoke. [02:35] Umm... ok so we will have to do something different here. [02:35] what happened? [02:36] Lenovo overloaded the NVRAM of your system and looks like it didn't let the ubuntu boot entry get in. [02:37] OK, can you do "cp -R /mnt/EFI/ubuntu /mnt/EFI/BOOT"? [02:37] And then "cp /mnt/EFI/BOOT/grubx64.efi /mnt/EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi". [02:37] So the thing boots in UEFI mode now, but you have to select the boot EFI file [02:38] LikWidChzz: Do you have a Customized Boot option in your BIOS? [02:38] like to select the boot file at boot? [02:38] LikWidChzz: It might be possible to point the EFI to the EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi file and get it to boot automatically. [02:38] Yeah. [02:38] ehhh good q, lemme poke. [02:39] Guest76: After executing the commands I sent to you, try rebooting and see what happens. It *should* boot into Ubuntu. [02:40] Hmmmmm [02:40] its booting into Linux mint [02:41] Hello, is there a reason why steam takes a very long time to 'process shaders'? It takes half an hour and the computer throws errors during the process, is generally unresponsive. If I click skip the computer locks up completely and I have to unplug it. [02:41] yeah thats right, i forgot to install kubuntu before i loaded into that live environment [02:41] but its still working, im at the login screen [02:41] arraybolt3, doesnt look like it [02:41] Im OK with Mint :) [02:42] im up for your idea to try non EFI boot setup, I dont like how this works even though it does boot [02:42] Guest76: Meh, no problem, if it boots, it boots :) [02:42] So what did I do wrong when initially installing these linux distros? [02:42] Guest76: No, waht you did was probably fine. [02:42] Hardware manufacturers frequently don't adhere to standards that make things work right. [02:43] Basically we just had to make Mint put its files where the UEFI can find them, since the UEFI refused to do things the right way. [02:43] If I ever have to reinstall the linux distro again... do I have to repeat all the same commands? Which commands are the most relevant commands so I can save it for my own personal KB? [02:43] arraybolt3, did you get anywhere with making an MBR bootable 22.04? [02:43] Guest76: I'll send a pastebin with the relevant "fix it" commands. [02:44] (I have a webserver running at home, and on the locally served site, I have webpages for how to do certain complicated tasks that I might occasionally have to do, but might forget how to) [02:44] LikWidChzz: Still downloading :( [02:44] on your question about pointing to the right file you made a comment about the bootable file [02:44] Most of my KBs articles I wrote for myself are for fixing issues with HomeAssistant [02:45] BTW, Thank you so much for your help :D [02:45] I wonder if Linux mint supports the fingerprint reader on this badboy [02:46] so in the EFI directory do I need to make a symbolic link to this shimx64.efi file? [02:47] Guest76: https://dpaste.com/9FKHNN57D [02:47] LikWidChzz: You can't do symbolic links sadly, the EFI partition is FAT32. [02:47] LikWidChzz: You can copy stuff if you need it elsewhere. [02:48] okay so in the EFI directory is there a file that I can copy to auto load [02:48] LikWidChzz: You might try just enabling EFI mode and then reinstalling, so that the right entry is made in your system's NVRAM to boot Ubuntu automatically. That will save you (hopefully) from having to repeat what me and Guest76 just had to do because of his buggy UEFI. [02:48] I did that. [02:48] LikWidChzz: Oh. [02:48] OK, well: https://dpaste.com/9FKHNN57D [02:48] LikWidChzz: ^ That has the instructions for putting the GRUB bootloader where even buggy EFI systems can find it. [02:49] ahh okay lemme give this a whirl [02:49] if it fails im installing 21.10 [02:49] How do I troubleshoot performance problems? I had no problem playing bannerlord yesterday before I rebooted, but today it is hitching and skipping constantly [02:50] LikWidChzz: This shouldn't fail - if the EFI can't find the file where those instructions put it, it shouldn't even call itself a UEFI BIOS. [02:50] well it seems like the folks who put together this installed kind of hosed it :\ [02:50] *installer. [02:51] The installer works just fine on most systems. Manufacturers are just really bad at following standards, leading to these kinds of hacks. [02:52] on your pastebin link it sounds like I can just do the last two commands [02:52] LikWidChzz: You have to mount the installed system's EFI system partition to be able to modify it. [02:52] right I already did that [02:52] And if /mnt/EFI/BOOT already exists (which it probably will), you have to move it. [02:52] oh well lol ignore what I said before :) [02:52] If you've already done that, then yeah, the last two commands are all you need. [02:54] btw I dont have a grub file listed in /boot [02:54] I have run the top command, it is the closest thing I can find to the task manager in windows. there is a program called apport-gtk taking up 100% of cpu [02:54] LikWidChzz: On the installed system, or the live ISO? [02:55] the installed system [02:55] ?! [02:55] So /boot/grub doesn't exist? [02:55] no [02:55] Alright, hold up. Something's wrong then. [02:55] You might have a corrupted ISO. [02:55] root@elitebook:/mnt/EFI/BOOT# ls [02:55] BOOTX64.EFI fbx64.efi mmx64.efi ubuntu [02:55] root@elitebook:/mnt/EFI/BOOT# [02:55] Oh. That's actualy normal. [02:55] LikWidChzz: You're looking at the installed system's EFI system partition. [02:55] right [02:56] /boot/grub should be located in the /boot partition or the / partition, which are different. [02:56] You're looking at what usually is /boot/efi. [02:56] look at your pastebin link again [02:57] it doesnt show you copying files from /boot [02:57] I tried running a few commands that apparently stop the apport-gtk 'service', but it is still running and consuming all the system resources [02:58] LikWidChzz: Right. We are intentionally changing things in /boot/efi, because that's where the bootloader is installed on EFI systems. [02:58] You're used to BIOS systems, which work very differently in this regard. [02:58] Right, I am booted in EFI boot mode now [02:59] We're just taking the bootloader from the location where it should work, and putting it in a different location so that the UEFI can find it since it seems reluctant to find it in the normal location. [02:59] LikWidChzz: Are you booted into the main system, or an ISO file? [02:59] Right right I get that. [02:59] I thought you were in an ISO file. [02:59] Does Libera.chat do registered usernames? [03:00] I am booted in UEFI mode now on its own power. BUT the problem is I have to select a bunch of junk within the boot menu of my laptop and navigate to a UEFI file and boot to it in order for my system to start [03:00] Guest76: You can register a username if you wish, and some channels require that you be registered in order to join, though not all of them. [03:00] LikWidChzz: Oh, OK. [03:00] LikWidChzz: So what commands have you run so far? [03:00] Just making sure, its done at https://libera.chat/ right? [03:00] Guest76: That's their website, you can find registration instructions there. [03:00] The actual registration process is done in your IRC client. [03:01] https://libera.chat/guides/registration [03:01] so what I am asking is, is there a default file name that boots in UEFI mode because if there is, Ill just copy the shimx64.efi [03:01] to the "Default.file.that.boots.without.me.pressing.buttons" [03:01] grubx64.efi also exists [03:01] LikWidChzz: Yes, it's /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi. [03:01] However, SHIM looks for grubx64.efi in the same folder. [03:01] Im asking something dumb [03:02] No, not at all. [03:02] Im sure the answer is so easy once I figure out how to ask it. [03:02] Nah, I get it. [03:02] okay [03:02] which folder is it looking in? [03:02] So the /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT folder is an "ultimate fallback" where the UEFI can find files if all else fails. [03:02] And the file it will look for is /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI. [03:03] So if you copy shimx64.efi to there, it will find it. [03:03] shimx64.efi requires grubx64.efi be in the same folder as it. [03:03] So since /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu is already set up all correct, you just copy /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu to /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT. [03:03] copy the entire folder to the boot folder? [03:03] Then you can copy /boot/efi/EFI/shimx64.efi to /boot/efi/EFI/bootx64.efi, and then the UEFI can find the shim. [03:03] Yes. The entire folder. [03:03] thats free, I can do that one sec [03:03] Then once the UEFI can find the shim, it can boot it, and then the shim can find GRUB and boot it. [03:04] There.... now I got Synergy set up so I can control my laptop with the keyboard/ [03:04] wait its already there [03:04] And then GRUB can find the configuration file in the same folder and use it to find the real configuration file. [03:04] and mouse from my desktop pc [03:04] LikWidChzz: /mnt/efi/EFI/BOOT will probably have stuff there already. [03:04] root@elitebook:/mnt/EFI/BOOT/ubuntu# ls [03:04] BOOTX64.CSV grub.cfg grubx64.efi mmx64.efi shimx64.efi [03:04] Literally like having another monitor, except that other monitor runs linux [03:04] LikWidChzz: BOOTX64.**CSV**, not .EFI. [03:04] AHHHHHHH okay [03:04] blind. [03:05] You need to do "sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi" and then POOF it should work. [03:07] whoosh I think your file names are incorrect. [03:07] I mean this just worked a second ago for another user. [03:07] I am either dense or hangry. [03:07] Did I typo? [03:07] ls /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT [03:07] pause. doing now [03:08] root@elitebook:/boot/efi/EFI/BOOT# ls [03:08] BOOTX64.EFI fbx64.efi mmx64.efi ubuntu [03:08] Umm... [03:08] ubuntu shouldn't be there :) [03:09] ubuntu is supposed to *replace* /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT, not be inside it. [03:09] hold up a sec I am getting dumb [03:09] when the machine boots isnt it looking at /SDA2 the EFI partition? [03:09] I believe so. [03:10] okay thats what I booted the system on but I had to select an EFI file manually with HPs stupid menu [03:10]