[00:05] <pycurious> My bluetooth mouse stopped working on 20.04LTS after the last reboot (recently upgraded to Pro). The gnome bluetooth dialog shows bluetooth to be off. On dmesg I see the following error : [    6.772914] Bluetooth: hci0: Reading Intel version command failed (-110), [    6.772920] Bluetooth: hci0: command 0xfc05 tx timeout - systemctl status bluetooth.service - shows service running. Any ideas on how to fix this and what went wrong?
[00:05] <pycurious> Any ideas on how to debug this?
[00:42] <intpareidolia> hi
[00:46] <librepareidolia> hi
[00:55] <intpareidolia> hello
[00:56] <Bashing-om> intpareidolia: Hello - your support question ?
[00:56] <intpareidolia> I don't have a question.
[02:02] <LikWidChzz> What would you folks recommend to manage ~12 Orange Pi 5s? I want to run an app on them and monitor its progress based off that apps output to the shell/terminal. Each PI can technically be running the same command. Is there a decent way of doing this instead of like ssh/key authentication + Screen?
[02:06] <arraybolt3> LikWidChzz: Generally this room is for Ubuntu-specific support questions, so you might not find a lot of people who know about that stuff here.
[02:07] <LikWidChzz> worth a shot
[02:07] <arraybolt3> You might try using "/msg alis list <search term>" to find a room where those more knowledgable about clusters and the like are.
[02:07] <LikWidChzz> right I'm idling in #linux
[02:10] <jhutchins> LikWidChzz: Possibly a Pi channel - people have been using small clusters of appliance/computers for dedicated projects for a while.
[02:11] <LikWidChzz> ooh good call out, I didnt think of that. thank you.
[02:11] <jhutchins> When the Mac Minis came out there were even special rack shelves that would support a small bunch of them.
[02:12] <LikWidChzz> neat! exceot macs are no bueno.
[02:12] <LikWidChzz> *except.
[02:12] <arraybolt3> Heh, so is *that* how one of the fastest supercomputers for a while ran Mac OS at one point?
[02:13] <LikWidChzz> im going to go in a corner and cry.
[02:14] <arraybolt3> lol, I have never used a Mac and hopefully never will, fwiw.
[02:15] <LikWidChzz> yeah I dont know Ive never really liked mac anything and the whole iphone situation, listening to the guy on youtube complain about their practices.. yet people are so dumb they just keep buying them
[02:43] <SenFache> I have three instances of PostgreSQL running on Ubuntu 20.04: 13, 14 and 15. I want to restart Pg 15. How to?
[04:47] <alkisg> Is there any command line utility that would transform the various smartctl attributes regarding SSD wearout, to a normalized value, so that I would easily check e.g. 100 disks and see which ones of them need to be replaced?
[04:48] <alkisg> There's Percentage Used Endurance Indicator, Percentage Used, Wear_Leveling_Count and more, and some even depend on the model...
[05:10] <tech10171968> qpqqqq/quit
[05:16] <henry_> wow
[05:47] <peacefulman> was the Canterall font blacklisted in gnome? For some reason it's not showing up in gnome tweaks when I go to set default fonts
[05:48] <peacefulman> Cantarell font rather
[05:51] <elias_a> peacefulman: What do you mean by blacklisted? Is the font installed and not shown in menus or what?
[05:55] <elias_a> peacefulman: I have not altered my 22.04.1 installation when it comes to fonts and I don't seem to have Cantarell installed. This hints that it is not automagically installed.
[06:02] <elias_a> alkisg: Here's quite good an article on checking SSD health. https://linuxhandbook.com/check-ssd-health/
[06:02] <peacefulman> elias_a: yeah it is installed, I even reinstalled it. For some bizarre reason not showing up in my font list
[06:03] <elias_a> alkisg: How about running S.M.A.R.T. tests and seaching for expression Pre-fail in results?
[06:04] <elias_a> peacefulman: Ok. Really weird. I'll check what happens if I install it.
[06:06] <peacefulman> strange, I had to run fc-cache -v -f and that fixed it.
[06:06] <peacefulman> now it's showing, not sure why that command wasn't automatically run after the font was installed
[06:07] <peacefulman> I even rebooted and it still wasn't there until I ran it manually
[06:07] <elias_a> peacefulman: Strange but nice tactics! :)
[06:07] <peacefulman> elias_a: thx :)
[06:07] <elias_a> peacefulman: Did you install using Ubuntu package or using some other method?
[06:08] <peacefulman> I think it was pulled in when I install gnome-session
[06:08] <peacefulman> or vanilla-gnome something
[06:12] <elias_a> peacefulman: I tested installing package fonts-cantarell from Ubuntu repos and works like a charm. Perhaps a gnome issue?
[06:13] <peacefulman> not sure, really weird.
[06:13] <peacefulman> never happened before, and I have install 22.04 lts a few times
[06:13] <elias_a> Oh - and the name of the font seems to be spelled with two letters l in Ubuntu repo.
[06:13] <elias_a> Really weird...
[06:17] <spinninggCat> what do you suggest for photo editting software in ubuntu?
[06:17] <peacefulman> I like gimp but maybe there's something better
[06:21] <spinninggCat> yeah well actually i am searching something else if it is out there
[06:23] <spinninggCat> 6
[06:23] <spinninggCat> sorry
[06:24] <haxn9k> there is one other recent one, but i can't recall, and there is krita but it's more oriented around painting.
[06:24] <elias_a> spinninggCat: Please tell us if you find anything suitable. The UI and logic of GIMP has been a nuisance for beginners for at least a decade. :P
[06:25] <spinninggCat> ahh hmm that is good point
[06:26] <spinninggCat> is gimp good with reducing noise in the pic?
[06:28] <spinninggCat> thanks for pointing me out sensible way actually,
[06:28] <elias_a> IMHO GIMP is the most capable image editor. Cannot say this would cover all possible uses...
[06:29] <spinninggCat> so it is almost a replacement of photoshop?
[06:30] <elias_a> spinninggCat: Yes - but the logic of use is very different and an occasional user like me has to read the manual frequently. On the other hand - so would I with Photoshop, too. :)
[06:32] <elias_a> What I like in GIMP is that it supports scripting: https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-scripting.html
[06:32] <spinninggCat> tlogic of use means different algorithm for doing same job right?
[06:32] <spinninggCat> i bet it is python
[06:32] <elias_a> Very handy if you have a ton of images needing the same adjustment.
[06:33] <elias_a> spinninggCat: What I meant with logic is how the UI is designed. Sometimes it is hard to find where various tools etc. are.
[06:34] <spinninggCat> ah
[06:35] <spinninggCat> I see
[06:38] <elias_a> spinninggCat: There are even many UI tweaks that make GIMP more like Photoshop. Example: https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/make-gimp-look-and-feel-like-photoshop
[06:39] <spinninggCat> I am gonna check
[06:39] <Robeen> Hi!
[06:39] <Robeen> I do not know...but is this the right channel to ask about Ubuntu related problems? Or where to report a bug found?
[06:39] <Robeen> I have switched from previous major version to Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS and L2TP over IPSec is fully broken.
[06:39] <Robeen> Will not connect with any settings...however it was working previously, and it still works on my phone, and on a raspberry pi (with the official raspberry OS and older packages for network management)
[06:39] <Robeen> Where can I report the problem? (Or how to overcome...if somebody knows...)
[06:40] <Robeen> Same problem with the newest XUbuntu as well...but it uses the same packages as the new Ubunutu...
[06:45] <arraybolt3> Robeen: You can use the ubuntu-bug command to report a bug.
[06:45] <arraybolt3> Find what package you think the bug is probably in, then run "ubuntu-bug <packagename>".
[06:46] <arraybolt3> It will upload some debugging info and then allow you to add a bug description and title to the report. You will need an Ubuntu One account, which is free and easy to make. (Ubuntu One is the single sign on service used for most Ubuntu-related services, like the forums, bug tracker, etc.)
[06:54] <Robeen> Thanks! I try!
[07:23] <josel> hello and stuff
[07:23] <Ubuntivity> hello. I'm having problem with my Canon LBP6020B printer on Ubuntu 22.04. It gets identified as LBP6670, and when printing test page it reports "complete" while nothing prints out.
[07:24] <josel> hmmmm
[07:24] <josel> let me see
[07:24] <josel>  is it pluged in ?
[07:25] <Ubuntivity> josel: Yes, it is plugged in. It gets identified by the system once I turn it on, it is named "LBP6020" but in the Printers section on settings there is "LBP6670" appears below the name.
[08:10] <elias_a> Ubuntivity: That is quite common as the chipsets etc. are quite the same in slightly different variations of the same printer. What does it do if you try to print?
[08:19] <Ubuntivity> elias_a: it practically does nothing. It shows priting complete as if it was printing, but practically nothing is happening.
[08:32] <elias_a> Ubuntivity: This might be of help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/240830/is-there-any-driver-64bit-available-for-canon-lbp6020bCanon LBP6020B
[08:33] <oerheks> lbp6020 is not in the database https://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/Canon/
[08:34] <oerheks> canon is widely known for poor support.
[08:40] <Ubuntivity> oerheks: any way to workaround this? Some way to use Windows driver maybe?
[08:41] <oerheks> you could goto settings, and try to trottle back DPI, 300 or 600 dpi
[08:41] <oerheks> else, no idea
[08:46] <Fravialis> Hi all. I can't get cups to stop asking for a user/pass, even though cupds.conf looks like this: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/78855cdc .. how come?
[08:46] <Fravialis> That is, when I'm almost finished submitting a new printer, it asks for a user/pass. Obviously root's pw is disabled in Ubuntu, so there is no password to provide
[08:47] <oerheks> use your user password, the 1st user created has root priv.
[08:48] <Fravialis> This is a print server, it's not a desktop machine
[08:48] <Fravialis> And the configuration specified Allow from 192.168.*.*, which matches my client
[08:48] <Fravialis> So I don't get it
[08:49] <Fravialis> My personal account and those of my co-workers also don't have a password. We authenticate with our RSA keys
[08:50] <Fravialis> Error log says [Client 123] pam_authenticate() returned 7 (Authentication failure)
[08:50] <Fravialis> Which seems obvious, but what isn't obvious is why I can successfully access all of /admin all the time until the very end where I finally get to create the printer
[08:51] <Fravialis> It's not even a POST request, it seems, because access.log logs successful POST requests to /admin
[08:56] <oerheks> oke, no idea there either, maybe this page is any help? see the bonjour part  https://www.fosslinux.com/61850/how-to-set-up-cups-print-server-on-ubuntu.htm
[08:57] <oerheks> you might need cups-ipp-utils
[08:57] <rick89> hi friends
[08:57] <rick89> I have a problem
[08:57] <rick89> I can't update my system
[08:58] <rick89> https://imgur.com/a/ZYIAioR
[08:58] <Fravialis> rick89: looks like your PackageKit is borked
[08:58] <rick89> ok thanks. what to do?
[08:59] <Fravialis> First, I'd check if there are actual updates with sudo apt update && sudo apt -s dist-upgrade
[09:00] <Fravialis> If that doesn't show any updates, I'd do a reinstall of PackageKit
[09:00] <Fravialis> Or a dpkg-reconfigure
[09:00] <Fravialis> I don't know what prepared-update is exactly, but it's not in the packagekit package, so it must be generated somehow
[09:09] <rick89> Fravialis https://dpaste.org/h6aD0
[09:13] <Fravialis> rick89: alright
[09:13] <Fravialis> sudo apt dist-upgrade
[09:13] <Fravialis> So, this time without the -s
[09:13] <Fravialis> After that, at least you've got your upgrade and then you can fix packagekit if necessary
[09:14] <Fravialis> perhaps even
[09:14] <Fravialis> sudo apt -y dist-upgrade
[09:14] <Fravialis> To save you from having to answer prompts
[09:15] <rick89> It's downloading updates: https://imgur.com/a/gt2DRRE
[09:16] <Fravialis> rick89: as it should
[09:17] <Fravialis> If you get any yes/no questions, just press enter
[09:39] <Fravialis> rick89: did it work?
[09:39] <rick89> 50%
[09:40] <rick89> https://imgur.com/a/dSfbD88
[09:43] <rick89> it finished https://imgur.com/a/DWDRcnz
[09:43] <rick89> Fravialis
[09:44] <Fravialis> Great
[09:44] <Fravialis> What does your GUI updater say now?
[09:45] <Fravialis> I'm going to bet it's fixed but if not, we should be able to think of something to fix it
[09:48] <rz> Heya, I'm on 22.04.1 and every few hours firefox goofs up. I lose the ability to resize or move windows, online video players and maps applications become unresponsive. This is happening on my main system and on my work laptop, both on same ubuntu version but both have completely different hardware.
[09:50] <rick89> Fravialis Software Updater says the system is up to date. Thanks for your help!
[09:50] <Fravialis> Including the gfx card?
[09:50] <Fravialis> rick89: great :)
[09:50] <rick89> why did this happen?
[09:51] <Fravialis> rick89: for some reason PackageKit came to be in an unusable state, because it wanted to update something for which it missed a file with instructions
[09:51] <Fravialis> rick89: at least, that's as best as I can tell
[09:51] <rick89> ok
[09:51] <Fravialis> How it arrived in this state, I don't know really
[09:51] <Fravialis> You could submit a bug report
[09:52] <rz> Fravialis yeah the work laptop has intel graphics and home system is using radeon discrete
[09:52] <Fravialis> Because obviously this should have never happened, but submitting a bug report is quite a pain given the demands put on you by the devs who take your report
[09:53] <Fravialis> rz: I also run 22.04.1 and I don't have your problems. The biggest difference between you and me is I run Kubuntu, however.
[09:53] <Fravialis> Still, Firefox would be using the same libraries.
[09:53] <Fravialis> Oh, wait, I also don't use the snapd version
[09:53] <Fravialis> I hate snap
[09:53] <Fravialis> I use Firefox from the PPA
[09:54] <Fravialis> rz: have you considered disabling 3D acceleration?
[09:54] <rz> Yeah ubuntu comes with snap and I don't like it either. I've been thinking about removing snapd but I'd at least like to give this a chance
[09:54] <Fravialis> rz: also, for the record, you can create and try a new profile with: firefox -P (after you close all running firefoxes)
[09:55] <Fravialis> rz: you should try that, and see what happens in a clean, new profile without any addons
[09:55] <liowenex> Is it possible your system freezes up when your computer tries to enter one of the sleep states, and doesn't have proper kernel suspend/resume support?
[09:55] <Fravialis> I know you've mentioned this happening across multiple systems with different configurations, but you'd still want to try this as part of an identify/eliminate/reduce problem surface strategy
[09:56] <rz> Hmm, thanks for the tips. I've noticed that firefox tends to work better if I launch it via terminal, but I haven't been able to figure out why
[09:56] <liowenex> Probably a placebo effect, the shortcut in Start Menu links to the same file as the start
[09:57] <rz> yeah could be
[09:57] <liowenex> *terminal
[09:58] <liowenex> I'd honestly recommend Linux Mint, it fixes a lot of the things that aggravate users on Ubuntu, including snap
[09:58] <Fravialis> liowenex: you're right, however, who knows what effect it has on Firefox that it can write its error message to an actual terminal
[09:58] <astroninja> I second this
[09:58] <Fravialis> liowenex: what aggrevated me most is ads in apt's output
[09:59] <rz> And everything worked perfectly with kubuntu when I was using that. So I think this has to be snap related
[09:59] <liowenex> In Mint there's also no need to use 'sudo' before apt commands, the Mint team have implemented it so it appends sudo automatically
[09:59] <Fravialis> Frankly that is unforgivable
[09:59] <Fravialis> liowenex: I simply become root as in older days
[10:00] <liowenex> Could also try to use nightly mesa drivers
[10:00] <liowenex> That might fix your issue with FF
[10:00] <liowenex> But they tend to mess up Steam if you use that
[10:00] <Guest77> Hi folks, something wrong with http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  -- it takes too long time to update pkg indexes
[10:00] <liowenex> (32-bit library conflicts on the nightly repo)
[10:01] <liowenex> Guest77: What wireless card are you using?
[10:01] <Guest77> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu affected as well
[10:03] <Guest77> Is anyone from Ubuntu team in the chat?
[10:04] <liowenex> No but I'm a legendary ex-troll, and I've got plenty of expertise to help
[10:06] <Guest77> heheh)) plz fix issues with http://archive.ubuntu.com then))
[10:07] <ogra> Guest77, status.u.c seems fine, have you checked your connection or tried a closer by mirror ? https://status.canonical.com/
[10:07] <ogra> err ... s/status.u.c/archve.u.c/
[10:08] <Habbie> the mirror in azure is super broken too]
[10:08] <Guest77> yes I've measured the update time from my location (RU/KZ/Armenia)
[10:08] <Habbie> doesn't matter much what the status page says :)
[10:08] <Guest77> as well from EU location (London)
[10:09] <Guest77> all apt-get update commands takes too long to update
[10:09] <Guest77> up to 10 minutes
[10:09] <ogra> 6 seconds here
[10:09] <Guest77> I asked my colleagues to perform the same - they facing the similar issues
[10:10] <ogra> well, the server side is fine and i can not repro any slowness here
[10:12] <Habbie> security.ubuntu.com (185.125.190.39, 91.189.91.39) takes >30 seconds to connect here
[10:13] <Habbie> and once connected, the request easily takes another 15 seconds
[10:13] <Habbie> just got another report from somewhere else
[10:14] <AlexC> PING security.ubuntu.com(kazooie.canonical.com (2001:67c:1562::18)) 56 data bytes
[10:14] <AlexC> 64 bytes from kazooie.canonical.com (2001:67c:1562::18): icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=77.9 ms
[10:14] <AlexC> it's good on my end
[10:14] <Habbie> it pings fine here; that's not the problem
[10:14] <AlexC> tried in browser, no issues, loaded quick
[10:14] <Guest77> Could you please try perform `apt-get update` ?
[10:15] <AlexC> ye, hold on
[10:15] <Guest77> sure take your time
[10:15] <AlexC> huh, downloads are slow
[10:15] <AlexC> 200 kb/s
[10:15] <Guest77> Thats it
[10:16] <AlexC> 112 kb/s now
[10:16] <AlexC> servers are pegged it seems
[10:16] <Guest77> Could anyone ping somebody from Ubuntu team?
[10:20] <Guest77> Please put you proofs here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2483665&p=14129611#post14129611
[10:20] <ogra> you should do tracepath's as well, to see where in the network it gets stuck
[10:21] <ogra> (it realy looks like a network/routing issue)
[10:21] <ogra> *really
[10:22] <Habbie> it could be, but then it is in many places, -or- close to canonical
[10:22] <ogra> well, again, nobody around me heer can rero it from some random hotel wlan in denmark ... 6sec for apt update isnt horrible in any way
[10:22] <ogra> *repro
[10:24] <ogra> the server itself reports proper operation as well on https://status.canonical.com ... so the issue must be somewhere on the network
[10:26] <Fravialis> Guest77: just FYI "proofs" isn't really stylistically/technically correct, save for rare and niche exceptions. See: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-plural-of-proof - Rather, one would use "proof" or "evidence"
[10:29] <ogra> Guest77, so i talked to the IS guys, they are aware that there seem to be some network issues in certain areas and are working on getting it sorted ... just be patient
[10:30] <anishroy> hi
[10:31] <anishroy> is anyone here
[10:31] <ogra> only 1157 peopl beyond you ... do yu have an ubuntu support question ? just ask 🙂
[10:37] <Habbie> i switched to the leaseweb mirror and now I can do builds in github actions again
[10:41] <oerheks> some have issues with a slow mirror, but nothing seems wrong https://status.canonical.com/
[10:41] <Habbie> s/some/many/
[10:41] <rzemyk> hi, any one has a problem with transfer from archive.ubuntu.com? I'm trying to build docker images based on ubuntu and it works horrible from azure/europe and digitalocean/europe.
[10:41] <Habbie> rzemyk, it's broken
[10:42] <oerheks> not broken, just slow mirrors at the moment, i guess maintenance
[10:42] <Habbie> they are very much broken
[10:42] <oerheks> very much not.
[10:43] <Habbie> it's great that they somewhat work for you, apparently. they are currently useless to many other people.
[10:46] <ogra> as i said above, canonicals IS team is aware and working on it with some of the network providers ... patience ...
[10:47] <Habbie> ogra, ah, i did not get that from your earlier text, thanks
[10:47] <ogra> 🙂
[10:47] <Habbie> oh i see it now
[10:47] <Habbie> thanks
[10:49] <Habbie> ogra, can you push somebody to update https://status.canonical.com/ ?
[10:49] <Znevna> all russian components are operational
[10:50] <ogra> well, the server side is fine and status.c.c only monitors server health (and it is even fine from many/most locations, it is certin routes and locations suffering only)
[10:50] <Habbie> ah, and i see the azure mirror isn't listed on it anyway
[10:50] <ogra> because it is run by microsoft ...
[10:51] <Habbie> i understood it's not
[10:51] <ogra> the status page indeed ony monitors canonical owned servces
[10:51] <oerheks> there are global issues in EU and USA, https://www.pingdom.com/outages/
[10:51] <oerheks> still, mirrors are just slow
[10:51] <Habbie> for you :)
[10:57] <ogra> FWIW, try using the de.a.u.c mirror ... that seems to still be fast
[10:57] <Habbie> yes, most country mirrors seem fine
[10:57] <ogra> (desnt help with azure indeed)
[10:58] <Habbie> i switched my azure builds to the leaseweb mirror, which is on multiple continents, so i don't accidentally pull gigabytes through the atlantic
[11:25] <YEGuest> Hey!
[11:25] <YEGuest> Do you also experience issues with apt?
[11:25] <YEGuest> Here we get a very slow update and several missing package.
[11:25] <YEGuest> Tested from several connections: BE fiber, Be 4G. Gitlab cloud runners, local CI runners/
[11:25] <YEGuest> All seem stuck or very slow.
[11:26] <pczerkas> yes, degraded performance on archive.
[11:26] <YEGuest> Ok, we are not alone :)
[11:26] <oerheks> canonicals team is aware and working on it
[11:27] <YEGuest> Good luck to the IT team for the pressure :)
[11:27] <oerheks> there are global issues, not just ubuntu
[11:27] <YEGuest> Note that there is nothing onto https://status.canonical.com/.
[11:27] <YEGuest> Ah
[11:49] <Fravialis> oerheks: fyi my problems earlier seem to have stemmed from my co-worker designing an Ansible configuration for CUPS missing an entire policy section
[11:50] <Znevna> because why not complicate your life
[12:07] <Guest8131> Hi. apt-get started being excruciatingly slow today (a few KB/s). I see the issue on two different machines, one local, one in AWS.
[12:09] <rzemyk> c[12:26.52] < oerheks> canonicals team is aware and working on it
[12:18] <oerheks> mirror is fast again?
[12:18] <oerheks> ogra ^
[12:19] <ogra> yeah, it seems to be moving forward now ...
[12:26]  * Habbie tries
[13:08] <Habbie> yep, did a fine build with the azure mirror
[13:15] <emancypage> Hello. Is it normal that archive.ubuntu.com is extremely slow right now? So that I have got E: Failed to fetch [...] Unable to connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 issues during some pipelines
[13:16] <ogra> Habbie, tanks for the feedback !
[13:16] <ogra> *thanks too 😛
[13:16] <Znevna> tanks!
[13:16] <ogra> and ships .. and trucks 😛
[13:17] <ogra> emancypage, that should just have been solved ...
[13:20] <Znevna> archive.ubuntu.com doesn't point to some random mirror, does it?
[13:21] <jrivett> archive.ubuntu.com is still not responding for me.
[13:23] <ogra> Znevna, nope
[13:23] <Znevna> why are people so surprised that it's slow then? :P
[13:24] <ogra> because it usually isnt
[13:24] <Znevna> why not use a local mirror instead of putting pressure on that one?
[13:25] <emancypage> I am not putting pressure on that, I am just asking, because I am wondering if its my issue or external
[13:26] <emancypage> I was not aware of it, this is why I show up here and ask :)
[13:26] <ogra> theer was an issue that as been resolved within the last hour ... it should be fine again
[13:26] <oerheks> I thought it was resolved too, but slow again.
[13:26] <gerhard92> hi
[13:26] <oerheks> just slow, no 404
[13:26] <Guest8131> It's still extremely slow.
[13:27] <Guest8131> And archive.ubuntu.com is the default.
[13:27] <Guest8131> I don't think it is unreasonable to expect the default settings to work.
[13:27] <CodeMouse92> (It isn't.)
[13:28] <Guest8131> It is for Docker images at least.
[13:28] <ogra> archive.ubuntu.com is never the default ... all insallers do a geoip lookup by defautlt and pick your closest mirror
[13:28] <ogra> *installers
[13:28] <Znevna> unless you're using preconfigured images
[13:28] <ogra> (at least the official ubuntu installers do)
[13:29] <Znevna> I don't remember which defaulted to us.archive..
[13:29] <Znevna> for some weird reason.
[13:29] <Znevna> because doing updates over the ocean is fine :P
[13:33] <Guest8131> unless you're using preconfigured images -> The official Ubuntu Docker images, yeah.
[13:34] <Guest8131> > docker run -it --rm ubuntu:22.04
[13:34] <Guest8131> > cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:34] <Guest8131> will show archive.ubuntu.com
[13:40] <Znevna> even the local mirror seems slow
[13:41] <Znevna> weird
[13:41] <Znevna> :P
[13:45] <Guest12> cloud images from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ also have archive.ubuntu.com as default repo.
[13:50] <Znevna> hmm
[13:50] <Znevna> the "local" mirror wasn't local at all
[13:52] <Znevna> yup, it points to two mirrors in the UK and one in the US
[13:52] <Znevna> and I'm in EU
[14:20] <pycurious> Anyone knows what these errors mean: https://dpaste.org/QP12R
[14:20] <oerheks> weird errors, no clue what causes that, hardware failure
[14:25] <pycurious> oerheks: how do i find out what part of the hardware is causing this?
[14:26] <y0bbo> A problem is occuring randomly on two Ubuntu 22 machines while lxc containers (debian 10) are running: indefinite "block" (seemingly) when opening shells or pseudo terminals. This prevents login, su, sudo, seemingly anything shell script. Stopping the containers solves the problem. The containers ran fine on debian 9.
[14:26] <oerheks> no clue what causes that, is it the cache ( cpu), or cpu1 ( cpu) ....
[14:27] <oerheks> maybe chipset, ask a hardware specialist, or try #hardware here on #libera
[14:29] <oerheks> y0bbo, so you suspect the deb10 container?
[14:30] <oerheks> what can we, ubuntu, do about that?
[14:31] <y0bbo> oerheks: no, the problem is in the ubuntu 22 hosts
[14:32] <y0bbo> the problem occurs both inside and outside of the containers ... one idea might be something related to apparmor, but I'm not seeing any errors?
[14:32] <Fravialis> y0bbo: you might want to run strace on such a shell
[14:33] <Fravialis> If you want to find out what is blocking
[14:33] <Fravialis> y0bbo: does it only occur for interactive shells or non-interactive as well?
[14:35] <y0bbo> one server was inaccessible through shells for a few months, until it somehow resolved itself but logging had stopped at some point. having an open root-shell allows me to restart it.
[14:36] <y0bbo> it seems shell-related to me, and if it is, it affects opening both interactive and non-interactive shells. already opened shells seem not affected
[14:36] <oerheks> are the disks healty?
[14:36] <y0bbo> yes
[14:38] <y0bbo> the problem only occurs when the containers are running. I suspect something is not right with isolation, but it is using defaults.
[14:40] <y0bbo> so, with an open root-shell, I can restart the container, which solves the problem. logins/su/sudo otherwise block at what seems the point when a psuedoterminal would be opened
[14:48] <y0bbo> it also blocked when exiting from "lxc-attach" ... it "released" after lxc-stop
[14:49] <dentistmare> hi
[14:50] <dentistmare> security.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.org seem to be slow/down. anybody knows what is going on?
[14:51] <oerheks> dentistmare, known issue today
[14:51] <oerheks> canonicals team is aware and working on it
[14:51] <pick> Hi using Kubuntu 22.04. locked screen and could not unlock it: "unlocking failed". I can log into virtual terminals, so I know my password. what could be wrong and what can I do?
[14:52] <dentistmare> oerheks thanks
[14:53] <toddc> https://status.canonical.com/
[14:58] <jhutchins> pick: service gdm restart?
[14:58] <jhutchins> (Is gdm the decault display manager?)
[15:08] <Fravialis> y0bbo: well, if it blocks, strace would show it
[15:12] <Fravialis> y0bbo: also, you could start a shell reading stdin from somewhere else
[15:12] <Fravialis> To test
[15:13] <pick> Hi using Kubuntu 22.04. locked screen and could not unlock it: "unlocking failed". I can log into virtual terminals, so I know my password. what could be wrong and what can I do?
[15:14] <Fravialis> pick: check the log for your display manager's greeter
[15:14] <Fravialis> gdm.log for example
[15:14] <Fravialis> But it could also be a bug related to a theme, and now that I think of it, I'm not sure gdm.log covers unlocking rather than signing in
[15:16] <Fravialis> If you're using kubuntu then it'd be sddm.log but that doesn't belong here but in #kubuntu
[15:16] <pick> no gdm.log in /var/log
[15:17] <Fravialis> Hmmm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[15:17] <Fravialis> Is there a /var/log/lightdm?
[15:17] <Fravialis> I feel as though this might be old
[15:17] <pick> sddm.log is 0 bytes
[15:18] <Fravialis> Old information on the wiki, I mean. But I can't really check as while my server systems are Ubuntu, my desktop is Kubuntu
[15:19] <pick> no lightdm
[15:19] <Fravialis> pick: any output for: pgrep sddm?
[15:20] <Fravialis> It appears it must be "Unity Greeter" in newer versions but I honestly don't know what the greeter's process name is now and where its logs are
[15:20] <Fravialis> And then I still don't know if errors related to unlocking would reside there, but ok, it might be worth a try
[15:21] <ELFrederich> Interesting how my XDG_CONFIG_DIRS environment variable is "/etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntu:/etc/xdg" yet there is nothing in xdg-ubuntu, just xdg.  Any idea why Ubuntu itself doesn't even use the first listed config dir?
[15:21] <pagios->  ok and in linux Or windows, when you kill a parent process, the child is independant and doesnt die
[15:22] <Fravialis> pick: maybe: grep -HiR 'greeter' /var/log/*
[15:22] <Fravialis> pick: that might tell you which greeter you have
[15:23] <Fravialis> pick: be prepared for quite some output, much of which might only be semi-relevant
[15:32] <alkisg> ELFrederich:  ./X11/Xsession.d/60x11-common_xdg_path:    XDG_CONFIG_DIRS="$DEFAULT_XDG_CONFIG_DIRS"/xdg-"$DESKTOP_SESSION":"$DEFAULT_XDG_CONFIG_DIRS"
[15:32] <alkisg> That's the desktop session, it provides a way to customize things based on session, and it wasn't needed in this case
[15:33] <ogra> i'd guss that still stems from unity days ...
[15:37] <pick> Sorry I lost connection, last message I saw was :22 Fravialis
[15:37] <pick> grep -HiR 'greeter' /var/log/* returns about 40 lines of stderr in journal/*/*.journal: binary file matches
[15:38] <pick> but no stdout
[15:38] <alkisg> pick, what's the output of: ps faux | grep -i screen | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:39] <alkisg> You may also check journalctl -b -u sddm, but I don't think sddm manages the screensaver; not sure though
[15:42] <pick> kscreenlocker_greet is running, should I kill that ?    alksig, will try your suggestions
[15:48] <ioria> pick, are you running wayland or Xorg ?
[15:48] <pick> http://termbin.com/1uzm
[15:49] <pick> Xorg. Been running it since 22.04 was released, this has not happened before
[15:50] <ioria> pick, fully updated ?
[15:52] <pick> yes as of yesterday and aside from policy holdbacks
[15:53] <alkisg> pick: run `journalctl -fb` in the terminal, go enter the wrong password, then check what the journal said
[15:54] <alkisg> If it doesn't say anything helpful, sure go ahead and try to kill the screensaver... that works in mate at least, not sure about kubuntu
[15:54] <alkisg> (I mean, enter the correct password even if the screensaver doesn't accept it, you know...)
[15:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[16:05] <zenadm1n> I'm stumpted. I'm trying to set some local routes after connecting to my vpn, eg I don't want my IRC to connect through my VPN. Followed these instructions. The script doesn't seem to be executing after I connect. https://askubuntu.com/questions/60784/execute-a-script-after-a-vpn-connection-is-started
[16:05] <pick> sorry I'm using Revolution IRC app and the servers often unilaterally decide I am disconnected.
[16:06] <leftyfb> zenadm1n: your post is from 11 years ago
[16:06] <zenadm1n> I have an executable script called /etc/network/if-up.d/vpnexceptions That should trigger on vpn0
[16:06] <leftyfb> zenadm1n: /etc/network/ isn't used anymore
[16:06] <zenadm1n> There are other executables like min in that directory. Are those all ignored?
[16:07] <zenadm1n> Is there a network manager plugin or equivalent?
[16:08] <pick> any suggestions to the screen locker problem? I last saw alkisg :38, :39 only
[16:09] <pick> http://termbin.com/1uzm
[16:11] <leftyfb> zenadm1n: server or desktop?
[16:12] <rok> are others seeing problems connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com to pull package updates?
[16:12] <leftyfb> zenadm1n: if desktop: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1111652/network-manager-script-when-interface-up
[16:12] <leftyfb> zenadm1n: if server: https://netplan.io/faq#use-pre-up%2C-post-up%2C-etc.-hook-scripts
[16:13] <pick> rok I'm having similar trouble on a different mirror
[16:14] <zenadm1n> leftyfb, your hint earlier got me to google the right answer, dispatcher.d thanks. I've been using Linux for 20+ years and still adminster some legacy systems so sometimes my problem is old habits.
[16:15] <rok> pick: thanks for the confirmation it wasn't just me
[16:16] <bancroft> i'm getting a lot of failures on archive.ubuntu.com for ubuntu 18 and it's VERY slow on ubuntu 22 jammy
[16:16] <bancroft> but there's nothing on the status page?
[16:16] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | bancroft
[16:17] <bancroft> 18.04, 22.04
[16:17] <bancroft> I see nothing wrong here https://status.canonical.com/
[16:17] <leftyfb> bancroft: no problems here
[16:18] <leftyfb> checked from 2 different locations
[16:18] <bancroft> I get Connection failed [IP: 91.189.91.39 80] all the time
[16:18] <leftyfb> youk now hat, scratch that
[16:18] <bancroft> it's intermitten
[16:18] <leftyfb> from another location I get issues
[16:18] <leftyfb> though it's ipv6, but I think it's the same issue
[16:18] <leftyfb> maybe it just hasn't been reported yet
[16:19] <leftyfb> bancroft: maybe try reporting in #ubuntu-mirrors
[16:19] <bancroft> thanks leftyfb
[16:19] <Steeve> bancroft: i just got here - update issues today?
[16:19] <Steeve> I just came in to ask, myself
[16:20] <bancroft> Steeve: yeah me too
[16:20] <Steeve> same, some of the ipv6 "kazooie" stuff getting timeouts / network unavailable
[16:21] <Roey> hey is the kazooie server down?
[16:21] <Roey> I try updating from it but get no response.
[16:21] <Steeve> yes
[16:21] <Roey> cannot initiate the conncetion
[16:21] <jhutchins> Never heard of it.
[16:22] <UbuntuUser> Is there currently a package mirror service degregation? Since today I have issues downloading packages, speed seems to be limited to 200 KiB/s. Tested from multiple public IPs
[16:22] <Roey> network is unreachable
[16:22] <Steeve> yes @ UbuntuUser Roey
[16:22] <jhutchins> !mirror status
[16:22] <UbuntuUser> thanks Steeve
[16:22] <Roey> though i can ping it fine
[16:22] <jhutchins> Blast.
[16:22] <UbuntuUser> !mirror status
[16:22] <jhutchins> !mirrors
[16:22] <Roey> Steeve: ok so it' s not just me then.
[16:22] <jhutchins> THat's not helpful either.
[16:22] <UbuntuUser> !mirrors
[16:23] <jhutchins> UbuntuUser: The ! is used in conjunction with a configured factoid to trigger the bot.
[16:23] <pick> Fravialis: pgrep sddm gives two numbers
[16:23] <UbuntuUser> Is there some kind of status update / service degregation notice to be found? I'm unfamiliar with where to look
[16:23] <leftyfb> https://status.canonical.com/ but the issue hasn't seemed to hit it yet
[16:23] <UbuntuUser> jhutchins the bot just told me Factoid 'mirror status' not found
[16:24] <Steeve> I feel so bad for the servers once they come back up
[16:24] <Steeve> stampede city
[16:24] <UbuntuUser> but then it's at least not just me :-)
[16:26] <bancroft> https://status.canonical.com/ but it doesn't show any problems
[16:27] <leftyfb> I've submitted a ticket to maybe get some eyes on it
[16:29] <UbuntuUser> thank you leftyfb
[16:30] <lunatiq> how do I clone a folder and all of it's contents to another folder?
[16:30] <Elliria> Hey there, do any of you have a recommendation for an easy-to-use substitute for VirtualBox that's available in the Ubuntu repositories in 22.04 LTS?
[16:30] <UbuntuUser> lunatiq on the same machine? cp should be sufficient
[16:30] <lunatiq> UbuntuUser yes the same machine
[16:31] <lunatiq> what would the command be? UbuntuUser
[16:32] <UbuntuUser> lunatiq you want the second folder to look exactly like the first? "rm -rf secondfolder; cp -r firstfolder secondfolder" be aware that this will delete all current content of the second folder. more over the file ownership and modification times will change
[16:32] <UbuntuUser> there should however be a way for cp to preserve these meta data
[16:33] <leftyfb> Elliria: LXD
[16:34] <oerheks> leftyfb, or KVM
[16:34] <Elliria> Thank you leftyfb. Can I create a VM from an ISO with LXD or KVM?
[16:35] <leftyfb> oerheks: lxd can create and manage qemu VM's :)
[16:35] <leftyfb> Elliria: not really https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/introduction/
[16:35] <pick> alksig: journalctl -fb does not seem to be updated with wrong not correct login attempts.
[16:36] <ioria> pick, try with '/usr/libexec/kscreenlocker_greet --testing'
[16:36] <Elliria> Is there an alternative to VirtualBox that will let me do that?
[16:36] <alkisg> pick: I think you're typing my name wrong and I'm missing your replies
[16:36] <alkisg> pick: ok, did you try to kill the screensaver process?
[16:37] <leftyfb> Elliria: why do you need to use an iso?
[16:37] <oerheks> pick, is your filesystem RO ?
[16:38] <Elliria> I've got VirtualBox installed from the Ubuntu repositories (my preference over installing from external sources) and it keeps crashing whether I try to run an ISO without installing or whether I try to install. It's a bug that didn't get sorted out for me even though it did get sorted out for some others [sigh]. As a result, I'm looking for an alternative so I can create and run a VM from an ISO.
[16:38] <Elliria> The bug: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1426992/22-04-jammy-is-there-a-kernel-bug-that-causes-virtualbox-to-misbehave-with-5-15/1427094
[16:39] <pick> alkisg: my phone auto substitutes its own idea for my typing. I haven't tried yet. do I want to kill both or just kscreenlocker_greet?
[16:39] <leftyfb> Elliria: why do you need to use an iso?
[16:39] <Elliria> So I can ensure exactly what I'm running by downloading the ISO directly from Ubuntu.
[16:40] <theorem> is us.archive.ubuntu.com down ?
[16:40] <leftyfb> theorem: it's having issues, yes
[16:40] <Elliria> It's been running very slowly for me today, theorem.
[16:40] <theorem> leftyfb: ok.
[16:40] <leftyfb> Elliria: with lxd, the images that get used are from ubuntu.com
[16:41] <oerheks> theorem, canonicals team is aware and working on it
[16:41] <theorem> getting connection timed out -- likely a network issue, or saturation issue.
[16:41] <theorem> oerheks: ok.
[16:42] <Elliria> Good to know, leftyfb. Thanks.
[16:42] <leftyfb> Elliria: sudo snap install lxd && sudo lxd init && lxc launch ubuntu:22.04 myfirstcontainer
[16:42] <ayedo> Hello everybody, my question: I'm trying to find a ubuntu pro desktop image with usg already installed (no need to attach a token and have internet connection). Does such a thing even exist and if yes, where can I find it? Thanks
[16:42] <theorem> usg ?
[16:42] <ayedo> ubuntu security guide
[16:43] <Roey> looks like the erver's kind of coming back up <- jhutchins
[16:43] <Roey> *server
[16:43] <ayedo> theorem https://ubuntu.com/security/certifications/docs/usg
[16:43] <theorem> k
[16:43] <alkisg> pick: you can kill one first, and if that doesn't let you in, kill the other one too. Then if you get in, save and log off to get things running normally once more.
[16:43] <theorem> oh, looks like I got a luck tcp connection o the archive server -- 194kBit/s wooo ...
[16:44] <Elliria> Thanks, leftyfb. I might try that.
[16:44] <leftyfb> ayedo: I don't think "pro" is an image. I think you enable it on your machine
[16:44] <theorem> ( so slow... )  :)
[16:44] <oerheks> ayedo, such iso does not exist, AFAIL
[16:44] <Roey> theorem: aye
[16:44] <ayedo> leftyfb oerheks thank you for your answers. how would you go about and create such an image?
[16:45] <leftyfb> ayedo: you install ubuntu and then enable pro
[16:45] <pick> ioria, should I run as root  '/usr/lib/*/libexec/kscreenlocker_greet --testing'   when I run as user it returns "qt.qpa.xcb: could not connect to display" and three more lines.
[16:45] <ayedo> leftyfb sorry, I forgot to mention: the device that I want to install ubuntu pro on won't have internet connection
[16:45] <leftyfb> ayedo: you install ubuntu and then https://ubuntu.com/pro/tutorial
[16:45] <leftyfb> ayedo: it needs to have internet
[16:46] <oerheks> ayedo, then what is the use of pro/livepatch?
[16:46] <ioria> pick, switch to root (sudo -i)  and try the same command
[16:46] <ayedo> leaftype ok, thanks, do you know if it needs internet just during installation or also later?
[16:46] <pick> Is this merely because I am using a virtual terminal so there is no display?
[16:47] <ioria> pick, why are you in vt ?
[16:47] <ayedo> oerheks we are only intersted in the system hardening (CIS certicate)
[16:47] <ayedo> oerheks the other features are indeed not useful to our use case
[16:47] <ioria> pick, i see; been locked out ?
[16:47] <leftyfb> ayedo: I think you want to contact Canonical
[16:47] <ayedo> leftyfb ok, thanks guys, I will!
[16:48] <oerheks> i see no benefit for ' pro'  as extended support, without internet.
[16:48] <ayedo> oerheks why? it seems to be a simple way of having a CIS level 2 hardened ubuntu?
[16:48] <oerheks> i think ' pro' should be dropped, as it gives a wrong idea.
[16:49] <pick> ioria: yes I initially reported about 90 minutes ago at :13 but kept getting cut off
[16:51] <ioria> pick, on ubuntu, at least, if the screenlocker is active, you can't switch to a tty
[16:51] <ioria> pick, maybe i lost a piece of the convo
[16:53] <pick> alkisg: killing one worked. any idea what might have caused this?
[16:53] <alkisg> pick: no, you'd need to find the screensaver logs for that, or run it in some kind of debug mode
[16:55] <alkisg> pick: sometimes you can find some information in ~/.xsession-errors as well
[17:01] <oerheks> now i get " The following security updates require Ubuntu Pro with 'esm-apps' enabled: imagemagick"
[17:13] <lotuspsychj3> same here oerheks
[17:14] <lotuspsychj3> oerheks: https://dpaste.org/k8jJa
[17:14] <oerheks> these packages were held back; software-properties-gtk update-notifier update-notifier-common python3-software-properties software-properties-common
[17:15] <trifon> Hey guys
[17:15] <oerheks> installing them, fixes things and the pro section in updates is renewed
[17:16] <oerheks> https://imgur.com/gallery/JrSO8zh
[17:17] <oerheks> lotuspsychj3, ^^
[17:17] <lotuspsychj3> lets c
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: no dice, software&updates only got the livepatch tab here (i did not add pro)
[17:22] <five6184> Could somebody help me troubleshoot my Raspberry Pi 4 Ubuntu 22.04 LTS server randomly crashing every few days? I have 6 externally powered HDDs hooked up to externally powered hubs (no backfeed), and everything works great, until the server suddenly stops responding and needs a power reset. The logs show a bunch of "^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^" symbols
[17:22] <five6184> and then cut off. FWIW, most of the times, right before these symbols, I can see logs from my scheduled smartctl scan reporting checksum error.
[17:25] <oerheks> five6184, do a memtest86 run to see any memory problems
[17:26] <oerheks> else maybe a heating issue?
[17:27] <five6184> no way it's heating, I have active cooling full metal case that even with fans off, doesn't go close to thermal limit
[17:27] <five6184> I haven't tried memtest though
[17:27] <grimpo> Is security.ubuntu.com offline? Is there an official Twitter account that announces outages?
[17:27] <yolo> apt update seems not working today
[17:27] <y0bbo> when it hangs on su, I can deduce that it opens a pipe to unix_chkpass and hangs on wait() ... in the strace, I can't see what happens in unix_chkpass, but whatever happens there is not unique to unix_chkpass
[17:28] <oerheks> canonical is aware of the slow mirrors, working on it
[17:32] <y0bbo> it should be /sbin/unix_chkpwd
[17:43] <grimpo> should I be getting "additional security updates can be applied with ESM apps" in the MOTD on versions of Ubuntu LTS which are supposedly still supported by Canonical?  (18.04, 20.04, 22.04)
[17:45] <grimpo> I'm all for Canonical making money but I don't think I agree with monetizing security updates for packages in LTS releases less than 5 years old.
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> grimpo: there's a current bug being worked on bug #1992026 we will have to see how things change on that matter
[17:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1992026 in ubuntu-advantage-tools (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Pro APT integration is a bit much" [Critical, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1992026
[17:56] <toddc> grimpo: you will still get the updates with non pro as you always have from the maintainer just with pro canonicals security team will patch them faster and push them thu pro
[17:58] <toddc> grimpo: wiyh pro you get a secuity tem looking over the updates and pro is free for 5 machines and free for ubuntu menbers up to 50 machines  good reason to become a member
[17:58] <dani-g5x[m]> Hello there
[18:04] <oerheks> grimpo, there is a newer software properties held back in updates?
[18:04] <oerheks> these packages were held back; software-properties-gtk update-notifier update-notifier-common python3-software-properties software-properties-common
[18:05] <oerheks> after that, and a reboot, i got this new screen, and could enable aps https://imgur.com/gallery/JrSO8zh
[18:07] <river> was the ubuntu repo down today>
[18:08] <rok> river: yes, issues today: https://status.canonical.com/
[18:08] <river> ok!!!!!!!!
[18:08] <river> I thought it was my own problem and I wasted hours on it lmaoo
[18:08] <Znevna> so many people found out today that they are using the wrong mirror
[18:10] <rok> using the installed default is the wrong mirror?
[18:11] <Znevna> nobody stops you from changing the default
[18:11] <oerheks> Znevna, the mirrors are slow, there is no 'wrong mirror'
[18:12] <Znevna> no, just the main server is slow
[18:12] <Znevna> well, one of them
[18:13] <arraybolt3> I see some confusion over Ubuntu Pro, some of which seems inaccurate, so I'll add a bit of info.
[18:13] <zenadm1n> leftyfb, Yo bud, we were wrong here. It looks like if I change /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf [ifupdown] managed = true, and there are no interfaces, then NetworkManager will run the scripts in /etc/network/ sub directories.
[18:13] <oerheks> pro is just ESM..
[18:14] <leftyfb> zenadm1n: dispatcher is the proper place
[18:14] <arraybolt3> grimpo: Ubuntu has multiple package repositories - Main (supported by Canonical), Restricted (updated by Canonical, supported by software authors), Universe (supported by community), and Multiverse (supported by community, non-free).
[18:14] <pickanick> Thats great it seems that 22.04 LTS (long term support) no longer gets security updates for all its packages less than 12 months after its release.
[18:14] <arraybolt3> grimpo: Previously, only Main and Restricted got reliable security updates. This is the way it has always been.
[18:14] <arraybolt3> And it's the way it still is. Nothing has changed from that perspective.
[18:14] <arraybolt3> grimpo: Ubuntu Pro takes the Universe repo (which has *always* been pretty much stagnant and un-updated) and adds reliable security updates for a large chunk of that repo.
[18:15] <zenadm1n> leftb, but the 01-ifupdown script calls the scripts in /etc/network subdirectores, there's a reference in that file that gets triggered when managed=true.
[18:15] <arraybolt3> grimpo: So without Ubuntu Pro, you get the exact same updates you have always gotten, and will continue to get those. So if you like how things have been before, there's no need to add Ubuntu Pro.
[18:15] <arraybolt3> grimpo: If, on the other hand, you're using packages in Universe that you depend on being updated, Ubuntu Pro can help.
[18:16] <arraybolt3> Maintaining tens of thousands of additional packages is a lot of work, thus why it's a paid service beyond a certain number of machines. The software is free. The work is not. And even so, you're given the work for free on a small scale. If you're doing things on a larger scale and probably making money from it, then that's when Ubuntu Pro becomes a pain service.
[18:16] <arraybolt3> *paid
[18:16] <arraybolt3> (not pain, golly typo)
[18:16] <oerheks> i just have PRO/ESM for livepatch..
[18:17] <zenadm1n> leftb, to clarify the /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/01-ifupdown script logic says if the network connecion changes then run scripts in /etc/network/if-up.d
[18:17] <arraybolt3> pickanick: So it's not that 22.04 LTS "no longer" gets security updates for all its packages, it's that every release, whether interim or LTS, has *never* gotten good updates for some of the packages, and now that option is available.
[18:17] <pickanick> Ok. What are the boundaries of Main? imagemagick and libmagick are not considered Main?
[18:18] <arraybolt3> pickanick: Main is anything Canonical has taken and decided to support, that is also open-source. You can use "apt-cache show" to determine if a package is in Main or not.
[18:18] <arraybolt3> The "Filename:" field in the output will tell you.
[18:19] <arraybolt3> For instance, "apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal" shows this output: "Filename: pool/main/u/ubuntu-meta/ubuntu-minimal_1.497_amd64.deb"
[18:19] <arraybolt3> ubuntu-minimal is in Main.
[18:19] <pickanick> E: No packages found
[18:19] <arraybolt3> Whereas "apt-cache show imagemagick" shows "pool/universe/i/imagemagick/imagemagick_6.9.11.60+dfsg-1.3build3_amd64.deb".
[18:19] <arraybolt3> Imagemagick is in Universe.
[18:19] <arraybolt3> If you get a package name wrong, you can use "apt-cache search" to find the right package name.
[18:23] <pickanick> Thanks for explaining. I've only been Using Ubuntu ~ a year or so. I never understood apt vs apt-cache vs apt-get
[18:24] <pickanick> Is there a apt-cache show all installed?
[18:25] <oerheks> yes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[18:25] <bahamat> pickanick: apt list --installed
[18:26] <pickanick> ah I was trying apt show --installed
[18:30] <pickanick> thank you all. I must be departing and rebooting!
[18:49] <ghouti> hi
[18:53] <y0bbo> inetutils-syslogd is running inside of the containers, killing it seems to release all blocks. Starting it with --no-klog (not reading from /proc/kmsg) and seeing what happens, haven't managed to lock it yet
[18:56] <y0bbo> /proc/kmsg might be the same file across containers, and only one process should read from it
[19:31] <Macwinner> has anyone experienced a sponteneous change in interface default route in jammy?
[19:36] <Guest6582> Bonsoir.
[19:48] <grimpo> arraybolt3: I appreciate the explanation. I am using Ubuntu "on a larger scale", but not making money. I'm in the public education sector. What would really help determine the value added by esm apps would be this: Instead of being informed "4 additional security updates can be applied with ESM Apps", I'd like to see (as a prospective customer) WHAT those 4 updates are. I'd like to know what packages they're for and
[19:48] <grimpo> what vulnerabilities they address.
[19:49] <Znevna> If I'm not mistaken the packages are listed
[20:18] <elias_a> alkisg: Did you solve your SSD problem?
[20:43] <TaZeR> i was buying a ssd at the computer shop one time and at the register the guy picks up the box and drops it to the ground, he picks it up and scans it continues like nothing happened "that'll be $129.99 sir" im like uhh can i get a different one please you just dropped it and he's like dont worry its an SSD
[20:45] <TaZeR> and i had to kinda force him into getting me another one, i mean who cares if its an ssd you dropped electronics to the hard ground i dont wanna take that risk
[20:52] <fury> for some reason ubuntu is no longer respecting my wishes in privacy->screen->blank delay... it is now just turning off the screen after about a minute regardless of what i have this set to. how do i get it to go back to respecting that choice?
[20:52] <fury> 22.04, also tried setting org.gnome.desktop.session idle-delay 3600
[20:53] <fury> but no dice :(
[21:40] <fury> https://askubuntu.com/a/1426429
[21:40] <fury> apparently that's the answer
[21:40] <fury> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:41] <fury> disabling it entirely wasn't exactly what i was looking for, but it's better than the umpteen seconds it was giving me
[23:16] <Guest74> I just set up an ubuntu EC2 instance and am having trouble connecting remotely with a Windows terminal
[23:17] <Guest74> I downloaded the AWS.pem file and placed in my C:\Users\User\.ssh\ folder
[23:18] <Guest74> but when I try ssh ubuntu@1.2.3.4 (ip address changed) it says punblickey denied
[23:25] <Endo> hi.using windows pop os dual boot system following a recent upgrade grub is stuck at  rescue page.Using F12 key i can still log onto pop OS. tried using grub rescue and re instakled grub. but no luck .http://sprunge.us/q0qsQn any help will be appreciated
[23:30] <morpheuz> when i use "apt update" one repository does get listed as "Ign:8 https://mkvtoolnix.download/ubuntu jammy InRelease" why is there one ignored entry and how do i remove that from popping up again?
[23:35] <krytarik> morpheuz: See https://askubuntu.com/a/294532
[23:37] <morpheuz> krytarik thanks, but it shows a line for a repo that i dont even have in my sources list.. Ign:8 https://mkvtoolnix.download/ubuntu jammy InRelease i do not have this entry anyhwere. i want to get rid of this message
[23:39] <Jeremy31> morpheuz: in terminal>  sudo apt install inxi && inxi -r | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:39] <Jeremy31> post URL
[23:40] <morpheuz> Jeremy31 https://termbin.com/o70i
[23:41] <Jeremy31> morpheuz: 2 entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mkvtoolnix.download.list
[23:41] <morpheuz> Jeremy31 but none of them feature the InRelease tag for which the error pops up.
[23:42] <Jeremy31> morpheuz: I think it looks for the InRelease file when you look for updates
[23:45] <Jeremy31> The InRelease file contains a GPG signature
[23:48] <Endo> hi.using windows pop os dual boot system following a recent upgrade grub is stuck at  rescue page.Using F12 key i can still log onto pop OS. tried using grub rescue and re instakled grub. but no luck .http://sprunge.us/q0qsQn any help will be appreciated
[23:49] <Jeremy31> Endo: Try Pop OS support
[23:50] <Jeremy31> !derivatives
[23:59] <romain_> salut