[00:08] <ForeverNoob[m]> Hello, suppose I want to backup a 512GB FDE disk onto external 1TB disk. I'm now using the 512GB disk currently (as in: booted from it right now) - Could I just clone this drive while it's booted and in use?
[00:11] <dsc_> ForeverNoob[m]: i would not do that while the OS is active. Best to get an USB stick and clone it from there, I use clonezilla but maybe there are other options too
[00:14] <ForeverNoob[m]> @dsc_: Would it have been otherwise fine if it was a non-FDE drive?
[00:26] <dsc_> ForeverNoob[m]: no
[00:26] <dsc_> use proper backup software that can make an image of the disk ;)
[00:27] <dsc_> a running OS will make changes to files as you are cloning it, its not a great idea
[00:35] <ForeverNoob[m]> Ah I see, that makes total sense, ty!
[00:37] <dsc_> ForeverNoob[m]: for simple files, you can do it. but you were talking about an image of the disk, I believe
[00:37] <dsc_> as-in, an OS backup
[00:37] <dsc_> those are best done externally, yes.
[00:43] <Roey> hi
[00:43] <Roey> anyone here use pihole?
[00:44] <mybalzitch> yes
[00:44] <Bashing-om> Roey: And if someone did - what would be your question ?
[00:44] <mybalzitch> I thought asking if anyone in this channel used pihole was their one question for the day
[00:45] <Roey> Bashing-om: I'd like to get my phone to connect to openvpn on my desktop computer, and then for my phone to get DNS from pihole automatically, so that I don't have to watch advertisements in the youtube app on my phone.
[00:45] <Roey> Bashing-om: is anyone else doing this?
[00:47] <Bashing-om> Roey: Food qiestion - that I have no ideas about - hang loose and let's see what we all learn here :D
[00:47] <sarnold> it might be easier to spin up a machine at your ISP or cloud provider of choice and run your services there, and take your home out of the equation
[00:47] <Bashing-om> Good*
[00:48] <Roey> sarnold: for security purposes you mean?
[00:48] <sarnold> Roey: just so you don't have to goof around with port forwarding and NAT and all that frustration
[00:48] <arraybolt3> Roey: FYI, PiHole doesn't block YouTube ads.
[00:49] <Roey> arraybolt3: it doesn't??!?
[00:49] <Roey> uh-oh.
[00:49] <arraybolt3> You need a client-side blocker for that (i.e., watch YouTube in a Firefox app and install AdGuard on Firefox.)
[00:49] <Roey> sarnold: ahhh.  Oh I have that already
[00:49] <Roey> I've been there/done that.
[00:49] <Roey> arraybolt3, that's what I do currently, watch it through Firefox.
[00:49] <Roey> with ublock origin.
[00:49] <Roey> and sponsorblock
[00:50] <Roey> arraybolt3,  btw I looked you up on Faceook.  How's it that there are like five people with your name
[00:50] <Roey> wow
[00:50] <arraybolt3> Sadly, YouTube ads can get through DNS-level adblocking, probably because they're served by YouTube directly and not through a separate ad site.
[00:50] <arraybolt3> Roey: Heh, I don't even have a Facebook :)
[00:50] <Roey> arraybolt3: yeah that's what I figured about those ads
[00:50] <Roey> arraybolt3: ha! joke's on me ;)
[01:16] <konrad> Hey. I would like to get kernel source code, currently used by my system (it's 5.15.0.58-generic). Only to see something, I don't want to build anything. On askubuntu.com someone suggested `apt-get source linux-source` but it gives me 'You must put some 'deb-src' URIs in your sources.list' - what does it mean? Or, is there a simpler way maybe? I just one too see one file, but on https://www.kernel.org/ my version isn't listed or
[01:16] <konrad> I'm blind :)
[01:17] <sarnold> konrad: edit /etc/apt/sources.list or files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* files; there's probably some lines starting # deb-src ...
[01:17] <sarnold> konrad: remove the "# " from those lines, run apt update, and then try your apt-get source  command line again
[01:19] <konrad> sec...
[01:49] <konrad> Hi again, sarnold - I had to reboot (new kernel appeared along the way) (now I have 5.15.0.60). Anyway - after doing the above (modifying sources list, update, apt-get source linux-source) I got this: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/e6b72775734e4c578b41c49147ac7cb9 - i.e. I should do git clone. I did, but what I have now is a 700 KB directory, no sources... geee, I just want to see one file :)
[01:51] <sarnold> konrad: oh bother
[01:51] <sarnold> konrad: well, there's two things there.. first, that message about git is just a hint that there might be a better way to do package maintainence tasks. it's not super-relevant for you, but the package was already downloaded and unpacked before you did your git clone command
[01:52] <sarnold> konrad: second, that just grabs the sources from the linux-meta package, which doesn't actually have kernel sources. it just depends upon the new packages from the new kernels
[01:54] <sarnold> konrad: try: apt-get source linux
[01:54] <sarnold> konrad: the manpage says it can treat the argument as either binary *or* source package name, and the most common source package name for linux kernels is 'linux' -- there's other kernels for different situations, but most folks use this one
[02:17] <konrad> sarnold, - thank you! I now know what I needed :)
[02:17] <sarnold> konrad: sweet! :)
[03:28] <jeremyt> hello
[07:16] <clarkk> Periodically, I see this come up in my ps -ef. Can anyone explain what it is?  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gstreamer1.0/gstreamer-1.0/gst-plugin-scanner -l /usr/bin/totem-video-thumbnailer
[07:16] <clarkk> I'm on ubuntu 20.04 with Gnome 3.36.8
[07:32] <brkcore> hey I got a long string of numbers in a text file and I remember only the first tree numbers, but I dont remember the name of the text file. How can i search for it ?
[07:42] <clarkk> brkcore, at the terminal,   find / -iname '*.txt' -exec grep '12345' {} \;
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[07:45] <enyc> curious
[07:57] <brkcore> clarkk, thanks, from bash channel I got also find . -type f -exec grep -q text {} \; -print. But I still can't find what Im looking for
[07:59] <clarkk> brkcore, the dot after find searches from the current directory. Change that to a forward slash
[08:01] <brkcore> I am searching it from the /home directory where the file should be. But it outpust all files and not greping '12345'
[08:02] <brkcore> I have a string of numbers 68190887654 in a text file, and I remember only the first thre numbers which are 681
[08:02] <clarkk> brkcore, also remove the -q
[08:02] <brkcore> ok
[08:03] <clarkk>  find . -type f -exec grep -q 12345 {} \;
[08:03] <clarkk>  find . -type f -exec grep 12345 {} \;
[08:04] <clarkk> try the second one
[08:04] <brkcore> it finds all sort of files, but not grepping the 12345
[08:04] <clarkk> if it doesn't find anything, then change the dot to a forward slash, to search the whole system
[08:05] <brkcore> ok
[08:05] <clarkk> do those files contain the string?
[08:05] <clarkk> they must do :)
[08:06] <clarkk> you can add | less to the end to be able to scroll through the results by page.    find / -type f -exec grep 12345 {} \; | less
[08:06] <brkcore> :) it does. I have a member number 681**** which is written in a txt file
[08:06] <brkcore> ok will be using less too
[08:06] <clarkk> do you know how long the number is?
[08:07] <brkcore> yes its 10 digit number
[08:08] <brkcore> the command finds all sort of files even media files but not grepping the '12345' . I think this is not the right way to find it
[08:10] <clarkk> it's because the string is not unique on your system.  What else can you tell me about the number that makes it unique?  Is it surrounded by spaces?
[08:10] <brkcore> maybe if I use > to save the output in a new txt file and I can use cat the file and use | grep 12345?
[08:10] <clarkk> and do you know the file's extension?
[08:10] <brkcore> .txt for sure
[08:11] <clarkk> and is the number surrounded by spaces, or preceeded or followed by any specific characters?
[08:11] <brkcore> its a number that is 6818765432
[08:11] <clarkk> or does the number always start at the very beginning of the line?
[08:11] <clarkk> or end of the line?
[08:11] <brkcore> hang on, could be word file
[08:11] <Znevna> totally ubuntu related
[08:11] <brkcore> totally apologise then !
[08:13] <clarkk> Znevna, I'm waiting for an answer to an ubuntu question
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[08:38] <lukdk> hello, I think i'm having an issue with the grub instalation after a clean install on a VM. I need to go to advanced options to select the recovery mode and next select the continue the boot, otherwise i just see like 1 or 2 lines and the system just halts, no error, no boot... I'm not sure where to start to look
[09:55] <frdmn>  Hi, can someone tell me how to enable the new kernel-based quota for a root partition setup using LVM? I found this (https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_22.04&p=quota) article but it doesn't involve LVM nor does it work with the root partition.
[09:56] <frdmn> Is there any way to enable that feature on-line without down time?
[10:29] <hermano> I have this combination in a new computer I try to install ubuntu 22.04. Even though I set the BIOS to use the PCIe16 card as primary, after leaving BIOS monitor goes black:
[10:29] <hermano> "Gigabyte B760 Gaming X AX DDR4 / ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 8GB DUAL OC"
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[11:45] <tomreyn> frdmn quota applies to file systems. whether or not you have LVM velow should not matter
[11:46] <tomreyn> frdmn: what exactly does not seem to work?
[11:47] <tomreyn> hermano: you're saying you "try to install ubuntu 22.04", i think yesterday you already had it installed, right?
[11:49] <tomreyn> hermano: if you suspect hardware issues, the best thing you can do is to use the on-board / integrated gpu and remove any additional hardware not strictly required to boot. also, set manufacturer defaults in bios, disable intel RST, enabble SATA AHCI mode (not RAID), enable uefi booting, disable secure boot, disable CSM
[11:50] <tomreyn> and not use overclocking, of course
[11:50] <tomreyn> you can use benchmarking tools to ensure your hardware is working properly
[11:51] <tomreyn> once that's sorted out, you can install ubuntu and see whether it works out of the box or needs additional tweaks on your specific hardware. once that's done, you can look into re-adding exta hardware components one by one.
[11:56] <hermano> tomreyn, yes I got it installed but computer behaves quite strange. Sometimes it boots up to OS, not always. Will follow your suggested steps.
[12:06] <frdmn> tomreyn: as the linked guide suggest, i tried to use tune2fs (on the LVM mapper device) to set the `quota` flag: $ tune2fs -O quota /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv
[12:07] <frdmn> the following output however, mentions the FS needs to be unmounted to set the quota option: `The quota feature may only be changed when the filesystem is unmounted.`
[12:07] <frdmn> the following output however, mentions the FS needs to be unmounted to set the quota option: `The quota feature may only be changed when the filesystem is unmounted.`
[12:08] <frdmn> Now I am wondering how I accomplish this when the partition in question is the root/OS one
[12:08] <frdmn> (preferable on-line)
[12:24] <tomreyn> frdmn: you will need to do it either from a difficent system, such as a usb booted live/installer system, or, maybe easier, from recovery
[12:24] <tomreyn> !recovery
[12:25] <tomreyn> when you spawn a root shell from the recovery menu, the root file system will be mounted, but read-only, this should allow the tune2fs command to succeed.
[12:29] <frdmn> tomreyn: that was the original question - i was looking for best practices to accomplish this on-line without interruption
[12:37] <fabio_> wee
[12:37] <fabio_> beddrazzi
[12:38] <fabio_> no dai
[12:47] <asdawdaw> hi
[13:51] <hermano_> tomreyn, so I threw out the external sound card and that specific error message dissapeared. Now I get a hanging with a line saying: /dev/nvme0n1p2: clean, xxx/xxx files, xxx/xxx/xxx blocks.
[13:51] <hermano_> tomreyn, And it gets stuck there.
[13:53] <hermano_> tomreyn, I have followed instruction where one enter ubuntu recovery mode (latest kernel), performed update, upgrade and dist-upgrade, but without and improvement.
[13:53] <hermano_> tomreyn, I also made sure I really choose 'install ubuntu' and not'try ubuntu', to remove later dependency to usb stick.
[13:56] <jelly> I have apt-listchanges installed on focal.  Why does grub-efi package show a NEWS.Debian entry for 2.06-1 when I'm trying to upgrade to 2.04-1ubuntu26.16 ?
[13:57] <ice9> why cheese cam and other video call apps like jitsi and others, shows a mirrored image?
[13:57] <Teridon> I'm doing a release upgrade from 18.04 LTS (to 20.04 LTS).  My firewall does not allow connections to api.snapcraft.io.  The installer warns me about it but I'm wondering will it REALLY cause a problem or not?
[13:58] <Teridon> i.e. should I get my org to update the firewall before attempting the upgrade?  It's a VM, so I can always revert my snapshot :-D
[13:59] <jelly> Teridon, I bet you donuts to dollars it will make do-release-upgrade end up in some sort of unexpected state wrt snaps
[13:59] <jelly> (but that's a wild-ass guess more than actual knowledge, I only upgraded 2 laptops bionic->focal)
[13:59] <ogra> Teridon, yes, yu should
[14:00] <ogra> both images (server/desktop) ship some snap packages by default nowadays (server -> lxd ... desktop -> firefox)
[14:01] <jelly> thankfully one can revert to firefox from apt for focal
[14:02] <jelly> (after the successful release upgrade)
[14:02] <ogra> well, you shouldn't .. if yu want to use an unsupported firefox, use the mozilla tarball
[14:03] <ogra> (people seem to be using the testing PPA ... which could go away at any point in time and you will quietly not get any updates anymore)
[14:03] <jelly>      109.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 500
[14:03] <jelly>         500 http://hr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security/main amd64 Packages
[14:03] <jelly> not ppa, apparently
[14:03] <jelly> I might be misremembering
[14:04] <ogra> oh, focal packages on jammy ... well ...
[14:04] <ogra> i misunderstood
[14:04] <jelly> who said jammy?
[14:04] <jelly> teri'don is doing bionic->focal
[14:04]  * ogra can obviously not read today
[14:05] <jelly> !coffee ogra
[14:05] <ogra> 🙂
[14:05] <jelly> there's a distinct lack of useful bots in here!
[14:06] <jelly> might be focal->jammy that got the forced firefox snap
[14:06] <jelly> I keep one laptop on the current, one on the previous release for reasons
[14:07] <jelly> but I also remember being bitten by snap removal trying to compress the ~/.mozilla/firefox equivalent for minutes and me killing it and losing the profile, on focal
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[14:38] <mbeierl> Shoot.  Looks like nvidia series 340 drivers (legacy) are not going to work with 22.10.  There was a maintainer who kept it up until 22.04, but not 22.10 https://launchpad.net/~kelebek333/+archive/ubuntu/nvidia-legacy.  Has anyone had any luck with the legacy nvidia and 22.10?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> mbeierl: the 340 drivers are old
[14:40] <mbeierl> lotuspsychje, ya, I know.  It's a second video card for extending display.  Worked well until the update...
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> maybe you should stay LTS on that specific machine/card mbeierl ?
[14:42] <oerheks> yes, go back to 22.04, or try this weird manual trick https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-340/+bug/1916640/comments/28
[14:42] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1916640 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-340 (Ubuntu) "Nvidia 340.108 driver provided by Butterfly (kelebek333) works very well till kernel 5.17.x but not beyond" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[14:42] <mbeierl> lotuspsychje, true.  Just hard to roll back, so I was looking to see if anyone had luck
[14:43] <mbeierl> oerheks, haha, I just found that link and was starting to read, thanks!
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> roll back/downgrade is not possible on ubuntu im affraid mbeierl
[14:43] <enyc> mbeierl: I came to conclusion for a particular old card, nouveau actually works fine and not worth the bother, and in any case that has now, for the relevant party, becaome the "backup PC" anyhow!
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> fresh install and preserve your /home would be an idea?
[14:44] <mbeierl> enyc, you are right nouveau is working, but it seems a lot slower.
[14:44] <mbeierl> lotuspsychje, yes, I can flip the OS install without losing data... just a pain
[14:44] <enyc> mbeierl: grr nvidia grr :O   I just got a different amdgpu card =)  I hear nvidia now gone to open driver architecture of some sort.
[14:45] <mbeierl> What is really need is to buy a newer video card.  Of course, that means I need to learn the models, capabilities, etc, again.  So many cards, no clue how to narrow it down.  Maybe AMD is the way to go
[14:45] <Enissay> I have a 20.04 LTS running running on a VM, I have done a usual `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y`, and after an unusually long update, I have no GUI, and when I get to console I have no internet... Any advice how to proceed please ?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> Enissay: recoverymode rootshell + enable networking
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> mbeierl: if your card still works, 22.04 still gives long support, use it till it dies?
[14:48] <mbeierl> Enissay, might not be helpful, but something similar just happened to me.  In my case a new kernel was installed, but it somehow failed to compile the modules or something.  On boot, I selected the previous kernel and the network loaded, allowing me to boot and attempt the upgrade again
[14:49] <mbeierl> Enissay, if recoverymode rootshell and networking does not work, try that again with the previous kernel.  That is what clued me in for my particular problem
[14:50] <Enissay> Well, my issue now is that I have no grub menu, it starts directly
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> hold shift or ESC to enter grub Enissay
[15:07] <Enissay> Okay, my 20GB / partition is fulkl :x
[15:07] <Enissay> which excludes /home
[15:07]  * chromebittin is attending the Fedora Social Hour and downloading some Linux Mint and Debian images for work
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:08] <oerheks> chromebittin should read the CoC
[15:08] <oerheks> hi BluesKaj
[15:08] <chromebittin> oerheks: o:
[15:08] <chromebittin> hey
[15:09] <BluesKaj> hey oerheks
[15:16] <Enissay> mbeierl lotuspsychje: yeey, apparently it was indeed a space issue... I shall add more GB to the VM... Thank you for the support <3df -kh
[15:17] <mbeierl> Enissay, I am glad to hear that.  And happy that my panic yesterday ended up helping someone else :)
[15:23] <hermano_> So after 2 days work with my new computer that refused to start after installation of "ubuntu 22.04" the machine is now up and running. Seems it was my fault for choosing 'minimal installation'. When I choosed "normal installation", start sequence of ubuntu went fine. The unplugging of an external soundcard was done for no use.
[15:49] <Teridon> ok, I got api.snapstore.io added for ports 80 and 443.  But do-release-upgrade still says 'Connection to Snap Store failed'.  "snap find nextcloud" works.  I restarted snapd, didn't help
[15:51] <Teridon> "snap debug connectivity" says "api.snapcraft.io: unreachable" -- but I can wget https://api.snapcraft.io .  Does snap use a different port?
[15:55] <ioria> Teridon, what's in your /etc/environment ?
[15:57] <Teridon> i'm thinking my firewall hates CDNs
[15:57] <Teridon> /etc/environment :  PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin"
[15:58] <ioria> Teridon,  sudo snap set system proxy.http="" proxy.https="" and try again
[16:00] <Teridon> ioria: that didn't seem to help
[16:01] <ioria> Teridon,  sudo snap refresh snapd
[16:02] <Teridon> says snapd is not installed, but "dpkg -l snapd" shows it installed.   Re: CDNs, netstat shows SYN_SENT for a bunch of sites like 185.125.190.27 (not api.snapcraft.io)
[16:02] <MrMobius> can I update a package I installed with apt to the latest version even if Ubuntu hasnt caught up yet?
[16:04] <Teridon> ioria: that's "snapstore-content-cache-2.ps5.canonical.com.", which I'm guessing is part of a CDN  for snap (?)
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | MrMobius
[16:04] <Teridon> i'll try adding all these sites:  https://snapcraft.io/docs/network-requirements
[16:06] <ioria> Teridon,  have you tried again 'sudo do-release-upgrade'  ?
[16:07] <Teridon> ioria: Yes, still says Connection to Snap Store failed
[16:07] <ioria> ok
[16:09] <Teridon> ioria: Adding the sites from that network-requirements link seems to have worked.  thx
[16:09] <ioria> good
[16:13] <lvsmmusic> How to install driver for TP-Link TX20U Plus wifi adapter? In windows I see this in the driver dialog RTL8852AU
[16:14] <lvsmmusic> I did a apt-file search with RTL8852AU and it shows linux-firmware, but in rtl_bt directory
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> lvsmmusic: drivers in ubuntu should load the module on boot process, if not check sudo lshw -C network or dmesg to see whats going on
[16:15] <arraybolt3> lvsmmusic: Realtek chipsets are notoriously difficult to get working on Ubuntu, you will probably have to find and compile a driver yourself.
[16:15] <arraybolt3> https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8852au <-- this is a possible driver you could use
[16:15] <lvsmmusic> lotuspsychje: checking
[16:15] <lvsmmusic> arraybolt3: oh
[16:16] <lvsmmusic> arraybolt3: ya already saw that, but I was wondering about the credibility of that repository
[16:16] <arraybolt3> Valid concern.
[16:17] <arraybolt3> It seems relatively popular, so if you must get this particular dongle working, it might be worth a shot, but you may want to just buy a dongle that has in-kernel support.
[16:18] <arraybolt3> https://github.com/morrownr/USB-WiFi/blob/main/home/USB_WiFi_Adapters_that_are_supported_with_Linux_in-kernel_drivers.md
[16:19] <MrMobius> lotuspsychje: im on 22.04. would I need to figure out if the package I want is on 22.10 to do pinning?
[16:19] <lvsmmusic> arraybolt3: checking
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> MrMobius: there are a few routes to choose here, depending on what your real purpose is exactly; !backports !pinning , snaps to get higher packages versions, we usualy dont reccomend to mix package versions across several ubuntu releases
[16:31] <lvsmmusic> arraybolt3: I read some forums and it seems the git repository has been used by people. Also seems I don't have any better option. Going to try it
[16:32] <MrMobius> lotuspsychje:  I want to run the newest version of NASM. debug output is broken and doesnt work with gdb but is apparently fixed in the newest version. I can be patient until it comes out but was just curious if there is a way to try it early
[16:32] <MrMobius> can I use the newest version on 22.10? I could run that in a VM
[16:34] <arraybolt3> MrMobius: Ubuntu very rarely has new versions of software enter it, but you can always install software a different way (for instance, compiling from source is usually doable). If you're actually using NASM, I think you probably have the needed know-how to compile things from source :)
[16:36] <MrMobius> hehe thank
[16:36] <MrMobius> s
[16:38] <arraybolt3> MrMobius: `sudo apt build-dep nasm` should install most or all of the needed dependencies.
[16:39] <arraybolt3> Anything else you're missing, you'll probably find out about when the ./configure script or equivalent throws a tantrum.
[16:40] <arraybolt3> MrMobius: You may need to uncomment the deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list for that command to work.
[16:42] <lvsmmusic> brb
[16:44] <MrMobius> alright. ill give it a try
[16:46] <lvsmmusic> arraybolt3: That driver works
[16:46] <arraybolt3> lvsmmusic: \o/
[16:46] <lvsmmusic> arraybolt3: Thank you!
[16:47] <lvsmmusic> lotuspsychje: Thank you
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> cookie is for arraybolt3 ; )
[16:48] <lvsmmusic> :)
[16:48] <arraybolt3> Glad to help!
[18:01] <Guest40> In the context of the Turkish humanitarian crowdsourcing campaign by OpenStreetMap and United Nations, I want to run the web-based iD editor on a HP Pavillion from 2004, which is sitting unused at the moment. I could register to OSM, but the editor does not load in the browser and I don't know how to debug whether it's an issue on my end. So is 512
[18:01] <Guest40> MB of RAM supposed to be enough for Lubuntu + OpenStreetMap iD editor in any supported browser (with security updates)? Or do you know an OSM editor in the Ubuntu repos that works? Thanks
[18:02] <oerheks> no, 64 bit wants 4gb nowadays.
[18:04] <Guest40> gosh, even Lubuntu or Xubuntu? I was told they are made for low-RAM machines
[18:05] <oerheks> one could try a 64 bit ubuntu with a browser and OSM to run on 2gb .. good luck!
[18:05] <leftyfb> that's a 32bit system, modern ubuntu doesn't run on it
[18:06] <Guest40> Thank you
[18:46] <byte4byte> im trying to install displaylink on ubtuntu, one of the prerequisites "sudo apt-get install evdi-dkms" fails with Building initial module for 5.14.0-1057-oem    sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory
[18:47] <byte4byte> is there a way to see where it failed?
[18:53] <oerheks> confirmed, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evdi/+bug/1961744
[18:53] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1961744 in evdi (Ubuntu) "evdi-dkms 1.9.1-1ubuntu4~20.04.1: evdi kernel module failed to build on kernel 5.14 (OEM)" [Undecided, New]
[18:54] <Guest9> Hey there
[18:54] <Guest9> I have booted with a x32 bit intel core 2 duo 2gb ram system into win xp.
[18:54] <Guest9> Now i'd like to install ubuntu but with the cd rom it say failed to unmount /cdrom and Failed to start Ubuntu live Installer at the end then nothing more happens
[18:56] <oerheks> hello Guest9, what iso did you download?
[18:56] <oerheks> and how do you start it? from within xp?
[18:56] <Guest9> Yoo thank you for the answer the latest desktop iso from ubuntu (ubuntu-22.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso)
[18:57] <oerheks> oh that is 64 bit.
[18:57] <Guest9> selected CDRom as first boot order
[18:57] <Guest9> oh lol
[18:57] <eax_> @Guest9: change your BIOS setting to boot from the CDROM or has that already been done?
[18:57] <Guest9> thought it contains both like windows
[18:58] <Guest9> eax_ it booted but there were errors
[18:58] <eax_> @Guest9: nvm, I just read your reply
[18:58] <oerheks> 32 bit is phazed out,
[18:58] <Guest9> oerheks Where do i find a x32 bit version?
[18:58] <Guest9> yeah i know but i think the cpu can't run x64
[19:00] <Guest9> so what should i do? oerheks
[19:01] <ravage> get better hardware or look for another linux distribution
[19:01] <oerheks> there are no full iso' s anymore, only netboot 18.04 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/bionic/
[19:01] <oerheks> i hope there will be an i386 firefox available, i guess not.
[19:02] <Guest9> phewww, really nothing i could install? I will only use it to run a minecraft server so it should be as leightweight as possible
[19:02] <ravage> a modern minecraft version need 1gb ram just to start. and thats the bare minimum
[19:03] <ravage> and dont run too far or try to install plugins
[19:03] <Guest9> yeah, i don't want any plugins just some performance improvement mods
[19:03] <oerheks> grinn
[19:04] <arraybolt3> Guest9: Debian runs on 32-bit.
[19:04] <arraybolt3> And firefox-esr has a 32-bit version in Debian.
[19:04] <arraybolt3> Pretty much any time I see someone trying to run Ubuntu on 32-bit, I point them at Debian, it's the closest thing I know of to Ubuntu that still supports old CPUs like that.
[19:05] <Guest9> thanks a lot arraybolt3. what is firefox esr?
[19:06] <arraybolt3> It's basically an older version of Firefox with security patches so that it's still safe to use. It's the default browser on a lot of Debian systems.
[19:06] <oerheks> old, but patched.
[19:06] <arraybolt3> (I think Firefox itself still supports 32-bit even without ESR, but Debian only ships Firefox ESR, not plain Firefox, AFAIK.)
[19:12] <Guest9> Oh i see than you both
[19:12] <Guest9> Is the 32x/64x only limited to the cpu or to the mainboard as well?
[19:12] <Guest9> Because according to the bios and intel ark website my cpu would support x64
[19:13] <Guest9> https://ark.intel.com/content/www/de/de/ark/products/35348/intel-core2-duo-processor-e7200-3m-cache-2-53-ghz-1066-mhz-fsb.html
[19:14] <oerheks> i see no reason why it should not boot 64 bit.
[19:15] <Guest9> basically the thing boots runs a bit of gui then it shows a screen of ]Passed].... stuff and at the end is failed to start ubuntu live installer.... after about 10minutes
[19:19] <arraybolt3> Guest9: Are you booting from a DVD?
[19:19] <Guest9> yes
[19:19] <arraybolt3> If so, try booting from a USB drive, that should be faster. Perhaps things are timing out.
[19:20] <oerheks> on what videocard?
[19:24] <Guest9> none i think intergrated oerheks
[19:24] <oerheks> check your bios, can you give it more memory, 128 mb minimum ?
[19:25] <Guest9> okay, yeah i'll try, first it's booting from usb
[19:27] <Guest9> yoo it worked with usb now i got the installer screen
[19:35] <Bebo35> can you help and complete this offer https://t.co/w9U15uaNmF
[19:35] <arraybolt3> !ops | possibly malicious spam link
[19:36]  * arraybolt3 grumbles that I just actually clicked that thinking it was a telegram link
[19:36] <ravage> thats why i did not click it actually :P
[19:37] <arraybolt3> I figured it was a Telegram scam link, and I was going to verify it as such, instead it tried to take me to some sort of MDMDownloader or something creepy.
[19:37] <arraybolt3> Glad I have all my security updates applied \o/
[19:37] <genii> hm I should probably update that
[19:38] <bancroft> if there's a browser sandbox escape that won't help, but I doubt someone with a sandbox escape would waste it on irc
[19:38] <arraybolt3> bancroft: Heh, people have more important things to use zero-days on. Next time, though, VMs.
[19:39] <bancroft> arraybolt3: exactly
[19:39] <arraybolt3> (Had it been a legitimately scary-looking link, I would have just !ops'd it without clicking. I read "t.co", mistook it for "t.me", and BAM. Blah.)
[19:41] <oerheks> same person running that spam for a day now
[19:41] <oerheks> libera is lazy.
[19:41] <oerheks> (staff)
[20:01] <byte4byte> got displaylink working jim
[21:45] <morgan-u2> How can I make hexchat automatically start at the sign in to gnome?
[21:46] <leftyfb> ladymorgan: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/startup-applications.html.en
[21:47] <ladymorgan> (peaple say "at boot" but that's wierdly not quite correct.)
[21:47] <ladymorgan> ty leftyfb
[21:48] <ladymorgan> that's a whole category of help. (tips hat or curtsey or just slight bow)
[21:51] <ladymorgan> Report of (what I cantsider wierdness) I rebooted by checking RestartNow after an update. Chrome was open. When I restarted it there were no windowns and no notice to ask if I wanted my windows recovered. Grrr.)
[21:51] <ladymorgan> (Report        consider.
[21:54] <leftyfb> ladymorgan: that would be an issue with chrome
[21:54] <leftyfb> ladymorgan: if it's chromium, you can file a !bug with ubuntu. If it's google chrome, probably not much you can do
[22:04] <five6184> After updating ubuntu to 5.15.0-1024-raspi today, my wifi stopped working during initramfs. The logs say: "n180211 generic link not found, failed to initialize driver". Any idea what happend and how to fix it?
[22:08] <Jeremy31> five6184: Is there a linux-modules-extra for the raspi kernel?
[22:08] <five6184> yes, but it makes no difference
[22:09] <five6184> I actually made a brand new image with 22.10 and new wifi card which required linux-modules-extra, and that gives exact same error
[22:09] <arraybolt3> sarnold: What does +bb do?
[22:09] <sarnold> arraybolt3: two bans in one command
[22:10] <sarnold> arraybolt3: most servers let you send three or four at once
[22:10] <Jeremy31> five6184: I wonder if adding the module to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules might fix it
[22:12] <five6184> just "n180211"?
[22:14] <five6184> I was able to boot by restoring *.bak in /boot, any clue how to find out what broke?
[22:16] <johnny_Linux> Jeremy31,  I dont mean to obscure your train of thought.  but i have a MAG tomahawk b550 bios..  My 1rst time fooling around with uefi and its standards. There is no internet log as to how it works. All drives were installed onto and from another mobo.  would that make a difference on its boot reactions ?? . Thanks.
[22:17] <Jeremy31> johnny_Linux: I can swap HDDs between my laptops without issues
[22:17] <johnny_Linux> interesting.. every time i boot. F11 has to be pressed or it goes into grub.
[22:17] <Jeremy31> five6184: It might be called nl80211 but modinfo nl80211 gives me no results but it might be built into the kernel
[22:18] <five6184> yeah i cant find any file with that name at all
[22:18] <johnny_Linux> AND i can NOT scroll grub
[22:20] <johnny_Linux> I flashed the bios upon purchase.
[22:20] <johnny_Linux> everything else works perfectly fine.
[22:21] <Jeremy31> five6184: What wifi device?
[22:22] <johnny_Linux> everyone is welcome to give any details.. maybe i got a bad board.. we will see.
[22:23] <Jeremy31> johnny_Linux: Why is going into grub an issue?
[22:23] <johnny_Linux> MSI MAG Tomahawk b550
[22:24] <johnny_Linux> Jeremy31,  im used to my drives going into psswrd
[22:24] <johnny_Linux> not grub
[22:24] <five6184> Jeremy31: two external wifi cards
[22:25] <five6184> completely different drivers
[22:25] <johnny_Linux> like i said.. I cant scroll grub to make descisions
[22:25] <Jeremy31> johnny_Linux: Not even the arrow keys work?
[22:25] <johnny_Linux> they doo.. it locks up
[22:26] <johnny_Linux> did that before i flashed
[22:26] <Jeremy31> johnny_Linux: Any options to install in BIOS/CSM mode rather than in UEFI?
[22:27] <johnny_Linux> i have enabled both.. like i said.. these drives came from another machine = intel.
[22:28] <johnny_Linux> it seems like i have to install again for the "unseen" bios settings to see some kind of code to proceed
[22:29] <lucenera> I installed Alacritty from snap, but it does not start, because something is missing.
[22:30] <johnny_Linux> maybe it shoots a code upon install for security.. idk
[22:30] <johnny_Linux> its a 8/22 bios
[22:30] <johnny_Linux> so/ maybe
[22:30] <Jeremy31> johnny_Linux: If you just let it go to grub and wait for the timer to count down, does it boot into Ubuntu?
[22:31] <johnny_Linux> Jeremy31,  it goes to HARD grub.. terminal GRUB
[22:31] <johnny_Linux> the other grub does have a 10 sec timer
[22:31] <Jeremy31> Grub command prompt would indicate another issue
[22:32] <johnny_Linux> exactly
[22:32] <lucenera> Error creating GL context; eglInitialize failed
[22:32] <johnny_Linux> what may that be.. thanks
[22:32] <Jeremy31> Like a UUID is wrong for a drive
[22:32] <johnny_Linux> i see the bios
[22:33] <Jeremy31> johnny_Linux: It might be something Boot Repair can fix from Ubuntu ISO
[22:33] <johnny_Linux> i see, and you just made it clear.. its a security issue with modern uefi.. maybe ??
[22:34] <ducasse> johnny_Linux: are you booting in uefi mode? is secure boot on?
[22:34] <johnny_Linux> I feel a trap for a re-install.
[22:34] <Jeremy31> johnny_Linux: It could just be an issue with that UEFI, just like some don't allow a linux install to change UEFI boot order
[22:34] <johnny_Linux> exactly
[22:34] <johnny_Linux> like i said.. 8/22 bios
[22:35] <johnny_Linux> ok Jeremy31   you cleared things up.. thank you for your time and efforts
[22:35] <ducasse> johnny_Linux: see if the uefi boot variables are trying to boot the shim or grub directly, the latter will fail if secure boot is enabled
[22:35] <johnny_Linux> your a good person. thanks.
[22:35] <johnny_Linux> I did.
[22:36] <Jeremy31> johnny_Linux: I would check the boot repair option  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:36] <johnny_Linux> your  a good joe. thanks.
[22:37] <Jeremy31> Good luck
[22:37] <johnny_Linux> personally, i think its intel...  just sayin.
[22:38] <johnny_Linux> intel is slick as a lousianna attorney.
[22:39] <johnny_Linux> Attorneys give nothing to society ..  They only take from it.
[22:39] <johnny_Linux> I stifle
[22:44] <johnny_Linux> Its an AMD with intel code.. we get it.
[22:46] <johnny_Linux> No one has prostrated weather through concessions and or otherwise this happens.
[22:47] <johnny_Linux> AND .. they wont.. = $$
[22:47] <johnny_Linux> I stifle.
[22:48] <matsaman> quoi?
[22:50] <johnny_Linux> People  They have us cornered.  Stand your Ground.
[22:50] <arraybolt3> johnny_Linux: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[22:50] <johnny_Linux> not at this time... thank you.
[22:50] <arraybolt3> Er... I see you asked one earlier. Generally we keep offtopic conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic. :)
[22:51] <johnny_Linux> arraybolt3,  your a sweet hear.. have a good day..thank you.
[22:52] <johnny_Linux> sweethart*
[22:53] <johnny_Linux> arraybolt3,  i have questions.. are you available to communicate ??
[22:54] <arraybolt3> No, sadly, I'm just about to eat lunch.
[22:54] <johnny_Linux> arraybolt3,  have a great meal.. may god bless you.
[22:55] <johnny_Linux> Im sorry your NOW sad.. no worries.
[22:57] <johnny_Linux> Yes, im 79 yrs old.. but .. not stupid.. Thank You For Your Time And Efforts.
[22:59] <jshakerg> hello
[23:00] <byte4byte> jim are you hacking us?
[23:00] <arraybolt3> byte4byte: ?
[23:10] <webchat30> Hey there i have just installed ubuntu desktop bu i think i messed up some things, so i want a clean reeinstall. Now if i boot from the usb the screen to choose install or try ubuntu shows but after i hit entern the screen goes black and stays like this
[23:11] <webchat30> Nick before was Guest9
[23:12] <Phr33d0m> nomodeset or something
[23:12] <arraybolt3> webchat30: Are you using a different version of Ubuntu than last time?
[23:12] <webchat30> Nope even the same usb
[23:14] <arraybolt3> Hmm... actually that might be the problem. Can you flash the USB again? Perhaps it got corrupted.
[23:15] <webchat30> Yeah i'm on it was my first thought aswell.
[23:17] <webchat30> Now i noticed something else: i have a raspberrypi where i can just enter sudo and it works but here on the ubuntu i thought yeah you better choose a strong password, but now i have to enter it everywhere so ofteen, is there a way to get around this?
[23:24] <webchat30> arrabolt3 still the same with the newly flashed usb
[23:29] <webchat30> arraybolt3 ?
[23:34] <esv_> anyone has a wacom tablet connected to a linux desktop?
[23:35] <orangepi> yo
[23:35] <esv> it works flawlessly ? I am planning on using usb-a/c and ubuntu 22.04
[23:36] <genii> esv: I had a wacom bamboo that worked fine, but I don't know about other models
[23:36] <esv> would like to use it to share diagrams sketches