[00:09] <bumblefuzz> So, I'm trying to set up SSH over VPN and I the two machines can ping eahc other over the VPN but I can't get them to connect via SSH
[00:09] <bumblefuzz> I opened port 22 on the target machine on the VPN adapter only
[00:09] <bumblefuzz> sshd is up and running and listening on port 22
[00:10] <bumblefuzz> but when I try to ssh in from the remote machine, nothing happens
[00:10] <bumblefuzz> literally nothing happens
[00:14] <ladymorgana> leftyfb, Boy I now know too  much re screenshots. grin
[00:14] <ladymorgana>  OK now is the time to put out this that I prepared. LONG but in stages. I know so little.
[00:14] <ladymorgana> - I have been certain from the beginning of this broblem that the problem is basically - How Ubuntu handles Chrome (which has bad memory management).  - - OTOH IF I can enlarge my swapfile and end this horror, tant mieux (so much the better).
[00:14] <ladymorgana> SO as I see it: (1) look at the image of what I see BEFORE Ubuntu starts. Is this a problem or not? (2) and then look at the Journalctl from when it did die to learn how and what is going on. (and for ME to learn a little about what happened and how to read the journalctl) then (3) enlarge my swapfile
[00:14] <ladymorgana> re (1) this is what I saw on the screen before ubuntu started. https://imgur.com/a/rYICZXb  (2) journalctl... as suggested. https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/jchv7rgHPj/ (3)  run "ls /swapfile" - - results are/is  $ /swapfile
[00:15] <ladymorgana> who has been involved? arraybolt3, oerheks sarnold , tomreyn,
[00:28] <Eickmeyer[m]> ladymorgana: As far as I can tell, nothing in that picture you posted on imgur is anything more than a scary, non-threatening warning (especially the first three lines which are very common). I wouldn't worry about it.
[00:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> As for the rest, not sure, I'd wait for those that have been helping you from before.
[00:41] <AHemlocksLie> I was using a program, forget which one, that set terminal colors based on desktop wallpaper, but I got rid of it, and it didn't seem to remove the last setting, so my terminal background is stuck red. I can "tput reset" to get the user@host ~/$ prompt back to normal, but the background stays red. Terminal settings set a black background still. What should I check next?
[00:45] <rbox> ~/.profile ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc
[00:51] <AHemlocksLie> rbox, I found it in .bashrc, thanks a ton. That was getting annoying.
[01:06] <sarnold> ladymorgana: unfortunately those log messages are cut off on the edges. I hate journalctl's defaults so much :(   try journalctl -b0 | nc termbin.com 9999   --- that should give the logs without cutting off the edges
[01:06] <sarnold> ladymorgana: and maybe use journalctl -b-1 | nc termbin.com 9999   -- that'll get the logs from the previous boot
[01:24] <ladymorgana> looked up nc and
[01:24] <ladymorgana> wrong. will repeat
[01:26] <byte4byte> anyone wanna go bigfoot hunting this weekend?
[01:27] <ladymorgana> sarnold I dont understand. I did - -  journalctl -b-1 | nc termbin.com 9999   - - it paused and gave me a new prompt. I looked up nc and it says it just sits and listens. " is used for just about anything under the sun" and I went to a browser and that toldme that termbin.com 9999 is to test and doesnt do anything.
[01:38] <Bashing-om> ladymorgana: "nc" is in the package bash-completion is it installed ' dpkg -l bash-completion ' ?
[01:39] <sarnold> ladymorgana: hmm, you should have also gotten an url from that command that you could share with us
[01:39] <Bashing-om> !find nc jammy
[01:44] <ladymorgana> I hope I am doing the right thing. I am making my swap bigger using the instructions on this page which are long and specific. https://linuxhint.com/add-swap-space-ubuntu-22-04/
[01:44] <ladymorgana> sarnold maybe
[01:45] <sarnold> feel free to skip all the swappiness and vfs_cache_pressure parts
[01:49] <ladymorgana> sarnold I didnt understand so I did it all. Is it ok?
[01:49] <ladymorgana> in fact I forgot I could copy and paste the lines so I type each in very carefully.
[01:50] <sarnold> ladymorgana: it's probably fine
[01:50] <ladymorgana> is it immediately effective or does it happen on the next boot?
[01:51] <ladymorgana> probably? lol what is swappiness and vfs_cache_pressure ?
[01:51] <sarnold> run 'swapon' in a shell and see if you see it listed
[01:51] <ladymorgana> NAME        TYPE SIZE   USED PRIO
[01:52] <byte4byte> who invented x11?
[01:52] <ladymorgana> I see it listed.  (interesting that the writer is a lady in pakistan who wears a black hijab and robe.
[01:52] <sarnold> ladymorgana: 'swappiness' tells the kernel if it should prefer to put memory to disk or throw away executables and re-read them from disks; there's *loads* of details here https://chrisdown.name/2018/01/02/in-defence-of-swap.html
[01:53] <ladymorgana> I will read it sarnold because it should answer the questio of prefers to (put memory to disk) rather than (what?)
[01:59] <ladymorgana> ok sarnold (I read much of it.) Ihav a question. If the swap area on my disk has been reassigned, what happend to the access to pages that were in the initial swap area?
[01:59] <sarnold> ladymorgana: hmm, can you rephrase your question?
[02:02] <ladymorgana> oh, the areas are both used, just one has priority so nothing is lost.
[02:03] <sarnold> aha! yeah, both get used, the priority just decides which one gets used first, in case you've got a much faster drive, or much more robust drive, etc
[02:03] <ladymorgana> you are smart. (a bit off topic: I say that because you asked and I solved my problem myself. That happens when I speak with smart people. It's an interesting form I call telepathy but there is nothing but cleverness communicated, no content.)
[02:04] <sarnold> hehe, that's often called "rubber duck debugging" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging
[02:05] <ladymorgana> I noticed that happening when I was say 18..19. And all 3 grad students who had that (with me) had done their undergrad work at CalTech.
[02:06] <ladymorgana> I have 3 ducks. Red, black, and yellow. (The yellow one was one I didnt give to a new child in time. The child must be 10 now.
[02:06] <ladymorgana> )
[02:08] <ladymorgana> Well if this fixes my problem I am going to give it up. BUT::: ubuntu should not die when chrome gets greedy or has poor garbage collection. UBU should be robust. It's not but I have spent waaay too log here trying to help out on that level.
[02:11] <sarnold> ladymorgana: heh, amazing how quick kids grow. an appropriate toy one week looks silly the next..
[02:12] <sarnold> ladymorgana: there's some work with systemd-oomd to try to address memory use problems by applications better, but it's very difficult to get right; for some people, their computer exists only to run the web browser, and it should be able to use whatever memory is available. for other people, the web browser is completely unimportant and should be the first thing killed under memory pressure
[02:20] <emmanuelux> question: is /etc/netplan/02-....yaml is prioritary to /etc/netplan/01-....yaml
[02:21] <sarnold> emmanuelux: "later" files can modify or override "earlier" files https://netplan.readthedocs.io/en/latest/structure-id/#general-structure
[02:23] <emmanuelux> sarnold, thx so 02- "override" 01 (01 is network manager)
[02:23] <sarnold> emmanuelux: or perhaps just defines something different -- but if they have the same keys, yeah, 02 will override the 01
[02:24] <emmanuelux> sarnold, i dont want to delete network manager (else it sucks very much compared to netplan)
[03:34] <byte4byte> which one of yall made ubuntu?
[03:37] <leftyfb> byte4byte: trolling is offtopic here. Please go elsewhere. You've been told multiple times. This isn't the place for it
[03:37] <byte4byte> how is that trolling?
[05:16] <nb-ben> gordonjcp: I see. It seems like what sucks is zsys basically, and that seems like a project unrelated to openzfs that I can replace manually
[05:18] <nb-ben> gordonjcp: a bunch of article titles say something like "ZFS has no future with Ubuntu", and then when to read it, it talks about zsys
[05:19] <nb-ben> gordonjcp: example: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/01/ubuntu-zfs-support-status
[08:09] <gebbione> hi folks
[08:10] <gebbione> i am back to see if someone remembers how to fix this problem
[08:10] <gebbione> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-510/+bug/1963805
[08:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1963805 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-510 (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Failed to grab modeset ownership" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[08:10] <gebbione> i have had problems with nvidia cards all the times as soon as i update packages
[08:10] <gebbione> i guess there are conflicts or bugs between drivers and current kernel but changing to an old kernel doesn't fix it
[08:58] <Guest9> Hey there Have you andy suggestion on what i could use to upload files to my ubuntu server? I know pscp from putty, but i have to copy many files to different locations so something like FileZilla would be easier.
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> Guest9: sftp perhaps?
[09:02] <Guest9> Yeah why not
[09:12] <Guest9> So lotuspsychje would it then be possible to access every file folder from remote windows or android
[09:21] <toxic0> Hello everyone. I'm looking for a way to tell unattended upgrade to forcefully reboot if it installed anything. Do you know a way to do this?
[09:24] <toxic0> My issue is that when it upgrades anything docker or container.io all my services are down and still it doesn't reboot... needrestart command was saying no reboot is needed... But none of my docker were running, starting them failed because somehow it didn't find the overlay directory, rebooting fixed it. It's like that pretty much each time cointainerd or docker is upgraded.
[09:24] <toxic0> Forcing me to manually reboot once I wake up...
[09:38] <gebbione> don't do unattended stuff then
[09:44] <gebbione> Does anyone here affected by nvidia monitors problems on ubuntu or unable to boot because it stops? Such as https://www.reddit.com/r/Kubuntu/comments/izjple/question_help_please_kubuntu_2004_no_gui_boot/ and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-510/+bug/1963805 ?
[09:44] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1963805 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-510 (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Failed to grab modeset ownership" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[10:01] <toxic0> gebbione don't use Nvidia then
[10:09] <person_x> is there a utility for ubuntu that i run use to create a vpn tunnel? here is what i want to do, i have a vps[public ip], i have a local machine[private ip]. i want to transfer all traffic coming into port 6050 of the VPS into my local machine's port 6050
[10:11] <gebbione> toxic0, not the same. You can run updates when needed . Nvidia is necessary stuff
[10:14] <person_x> see the situation is, I don't need to forward ALL traffic from the local machine via the VPS. I just need to be able to forward incoming traffic on port 6050 of the vps to the local machine. hint: the sip freepbx i'm running on the local machine, it can easily make outgoing calls but it cannot receive incoming calls
[10:17] <gebbione> person_x, you might find more help in #networking than ubuntu
[10:17] <person_x> thanks
[10:24] <webchat60> hello this is my first time on this chat i just hear about it in youtube can anyone explain to me this please
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> this is where you can get ubuntu support webchat60
[10:25] <person_x> webchat60, this is irc. a knowledgebase of the entire earth xD
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> webchat60: you ask a question and wait until volunteers pickup on your issue
[10:25] <person_x> oh and also, off topic. xD
[10:25] <webchat60> oh thats great unfortunatly i just moved to arch linux last month and dwm
[10:26] <webchat60> there is more chats for arch linux like this in the web rightr ?
[10:26] <person_x> yes definitely
[10:26] <person_x> just type this in your irc client->    /list
[10:27] <webchat60> i just open this chat from my window laptop i mean from chrome web is there any way to open it from my arch linux distro ? i mean without web browser
[10:28] <person_x> download any irc client for linux, like xchat or hexchat etc
[10:29] <webchat60> oh thats great thank you very much person_X yr the best
[10:29] <person_x> :)
[10:29] <mrkubax10> #libera might be a good place with help about IRC
[10:32] <spinningCat> hey
[10:33] <spinningCat> i removed firefox with aptitude purge firefox. snap "firefox" is already installed, this is what i got after typing snap install firefox what should i do?
[10:37] <webchat60> type firefox --version and see output
[10:41] <spinningCat> Mozilla Firefox 109.0.1
[10:41] <spinningCat> i am searching suitable selenium driver i downloaded last version
[10:42] <spinningCat> i am getting this error selenium.common.exceptions.TimeoutException: Message: Failed to read marionette port
[10:54] <webchat60> did you reboot your ubuntu ?
[11:03] <spinningCat> i didnt reboot it
[11:04] <spinningCat> should i reboot my machine after installing firefox?
[11:04] <respawn> no
[11:29] <claudio> Hi all
[11:29] <claudio> I've this kernel version: 5.15.0-60-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 20 14:29:49 UTC 2023 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:29] <claudio> cloned repository in my area:
[11:29] <claudio> git clone git://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/jammy kenel-ubuntu
[11:29] <claudio> I suppose that my actual running version "5.15.0-60-generic #66-Ubuntu" is the same on repository "Ubuntu-5.15.0-60.66", can someone confirm?
[11:47] <iomari891> greetings, I've tried everything I can find on how to solve "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY" but my influxdb key still fails. Any suggestions?
[11:47] <iomari891> kubuntu 22.10
[11:54] <tomreyn> iomari891: find and install this apt repository's signing key.
[11:55] <tomreyn> for this party repositories, it is often provided on their documentation or on a high level directory of the apt repository.
[11:56] <tomreyn> *third party
[11:58] <tomreyn> it may be possible to provide better suggestions if you'll provide the full warnings and error messages, on a pastebin
[12:27] <dingodare> What to do today?
[12:30] <Jeremy31> iomari891: https://www.influxdata.com/blog/linux-package-signing-key-rotation/
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> dingodare: ask an ubuntu question to get solved :p
[12:31] <tomreyn> dingodare: this is purely an ubuntu support channel, there are several other ubuntu channels. try: /msg alis list ubuntu
[12:33] <masber> hi, I think ubuntu upgrade has killed my ansible installation , is there any incompatibility betwen ubuntu pip installed applications and ubuntu 22.04?
[12:36] <tomreyn> masber: i would generally not recommend installing any python modules or distributions on the system level. you can install per user, or in a virtualenv
[12:37] <masber> ok, reinstalling fixed the issue
[12:37] <tomreyn> masber: python and python modules and their versions are essential to ubuntu, several apt tools expect those to be available in the versions ubuntu provides
[12:37] <masber> but you are right, I should make use of python virtual environment
[13:00] <yes-ubuntu> Hello! How do I report a bug in Ubuntu with ubuntu-bug ? Apparently, I should report it abainst the linux package, how do I determine the linux package name? I have linux 5.19.0-31-generic ?
[13:01] <kwak> What's the simplest way of running an application in the background in a way where it's both monitored and rebooted if it closes and where it's also easy to manage without having to understand the Linux syntax required to manage background programs?
[13:01] <kwak> I'm basically looking for a really simple process manager akni to pm2 but for applications.
[13:02] <tomreyn> yes-ubuntu: just type "linux", that should work for the currently running kernel image
[13:02] <kwak> akin to*
[13:03] <yes-ubuntu> tomreyn: thank you!
[13:05] <yes-ubuntu> is it possible to edit the collected information by ubuntu-bug before sending it over? Like user name and maybe other sensitive info?
[13:07] <donnysan> hi
[13:07] <donnysan> What is Libera chat?
[13:08] <donnysan> why i get lost in here
[13:10] <p0indexter> donnysan: more like how
[13:12] <yes-ubuntu> p0indexter: that user has left the game! :D
[13:20] <p0indexter> my guess is donnysan was looking for support and perhaps being a beginner didnt understand irc and i didnt look like "support"
[13:21] <p0indexter> *it
[13:23] <p0indexter> hexchat being preconfigured most likely brought donnysan here
[13:44] <RaimondRaj> hei
[13:44] <JSJ> in #linux
[13:44] <RaimondRaj> what issue that ( https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hKRQR52DGC/ )
[13:44] <JSJ> join #linux
[13:44] <JSJ> dang sorry
[13:45] <p0indexter>  replace # with /
[13:45] <JSJ> i got it sorry
[13:45] <JSJ> kinda tired heh
[13:45] <yes-ubuntu> This is weird! :)  Very weird!!! So, on Ubuntu 22.10 Gnome Desktop and in terminal... I have a main admin user and a non admin user set up... and when I am logged in to Gnome via the non admin user and open a terminal, I am unable to sudo commands?!? But in the same time, if I run ubuntu-bug which gathers system info, there, I am asked for the
[13:45] <yes-ubuntu> admin password several times and everything goes well?!? The necessary information is gathered?! Wow... now, I have some files under my admin user that I would like to access while I am logged in with the non admin user and I am having a head ache!!?
[13:46] <p0indexter> oops
[13:49] <yes-ubuntu> One option is to CTRL + ALT + F2 and log in with my admin user and copy the files over to my non admin user... other option is to ssh into this laptop and do the same ... very inconvenient!
[13:50] <p0indexter> typing corrected typo causes me to join channel and not show as corrected typo
[13:54] <p0indexter> some distrobutions have by default option to allow privs to remain for entire session or even on bootup automaticaly. i currently use sudo -i for every proccess that requires it
[13:56] <p0indexter> i used a distof MX-linux that allowed continued after selecting the option. if i recall the option was offerd after using sudo once
[13:57] <p0indexter> some applications might keep those privs elevated while other terminals are open
[13:57] <p0indexter> speculating
[14:00] <p0indexter> lol all of the prior was not fo this room lol
[14:00] <p0indexter> sry
[14:04] <oerheks> RaimondRaj, hirsute?
[14:04] <oerheks> !hirsute
[14:05] <RaimondRaj> noted
[14:05] <oerheks> eol, upgrade to a supported ubuntu
[14:05] <RaimondRaj> eol
[14:08] <cousteau> Hi, I have an ancient Ubuntu version.  Is there a way to upgrade the GLIBC and GLIBCXX versions without upgrading the whole Ubuntu (which I want to avoid because I assume it might break lots of stuff)?
[14:09] <oerheks> cousteau, no.
[14:09] <oerheks> one could build those manually, but the problems are not worth it.
[14:11] <yes-ubuntu> I know how to copy from my laptop to a remote ubuntu system - via scp however, is there a similar command to download files from a remote machine?
[14:11] <ravage> swap source and destination on your scp command
[14:12] <oerheks> scp remote_user@remote_host:/path/to/remote/file /path/to/local/file
[14:12] <cousteau> https://www.cyberithub.com/solved-glibc-2-29-not-found-error-on-ubuntu-linux/ "So in this case, I won't be installing the older version as this will make my system throw all kind of library errors and ultimately makes the Kernel Panic after system restart."
[14:12] <cousteau> ...so it CAN be installed! :)  (ok, I'm willing to admit that it cannot be installed in ideal conditions)
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> cousteau: own compile is not supported here, volunteers advice to stick to package versions from the repos instead
[14:16] <yes-ubuntu> ravage & oerheks: thank you both... would not imagine reverse is working, however, WONDERFUL! :)
[14:16] <oerheks> have fun!
[14:16] <cousteau> lotuspsychje: yeah, what I understood from that website is "technically it CAN be installed, but that doesn't mean your system will continue to work after doing so"
[14:16] <cousteau> I really like this feature the OS has that consists in that it works
[14:17] <ravage> yes-ubuntu: for syncing 2 dirs or see a progress use rsync over ssh
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> cousteau: its your system, you can do whatever you want, just here in the support channel we advice to follow the ubuntu way
[14:17] <cousteau> (I was thinking on installing the libs to a separate location, and then ld-preloading them or adding them to the lib path or something... I somehow suspect that'll either fail to work or succeed to crash my system still)
[14:18] <cousteau> lotuspsychje: yeah, it's solid advice
[14:18] <cousteau> I'd rather not compile stuff from scratch myself if it can be avoided via packages (repos / ppa / vendor-provided)
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> install a supported ubuntu release cousteau ?
[14:19] <yes-ubuntu> I have filed this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/2006994 Hope someone will get to it?
[14:19] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2006994 in linux (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 22.10 and Dell Latitude 7390 – screen does not turn back on after waking up from sleep" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[14:19] <cousteau> lotuspsychje: I guess I'll have to upgrade to 20.04 eventually...
[14:20] <cousteau> (to be fair, my understanding is that 18.04 is technically still supported)
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> yes-ubuntu: did you check if there are bios updates for your machine yet?
[14:21] <lotuspsychje> cousteau: you didnt mention your release version when you asked your question
[14:22] <yes-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: yes, and I have updates it to the latest already :)
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> yes-ubuntu: maybe start testing !mainline kernels as a test, see if you bypass your issue
[14:26] <cousteau> lotuspsychje: yeah, I didn't
[14:27] <cousteau> don't get me wrong; this is a problem with the devs of the program I'm trying to execute and not with the Ubuntu devs
[14:27] <yes-ubuntu> lotuspsychje: is there any tutorial for that?
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | yes-ubuntu
[14:27] <ducasse> cousteau: how ancient is this release?
[14:27] <cousteau> although Ubuntu 18.04 being virtually EOL'd probably didn't help... I really should upgrade this
[14:27] <cousteau> ducasse: it was released in 2018-04
[14:28] <ducasse> cousteau: run your program in a container?
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> yes-ubuntu: now your bug ID exists, you can try testing things and keep your bug up to date with your steps tried
[14:28] <cousteau> ducasse: that's what I thought... would that be possible?
[14:28] <ducasse> sure
[14:29] <cousteau> thanks, I'll look into it
[14:29] <ducasse> cousteau: install the lxd snap and spin up an ubuntu image with a later glibc
[14:29] <ducasse> it's like 3 commands
[14:30] <latef02> hello is anyone here
[14:30] <ravage> anyone is not in today. back on monday. he is really popular. needs some rest.
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:31] <oerheks> gone out with everybody
[14:31] <dsc_> i am also not here
[14:32] <cousteau> ducasse: can that run programs I have installed in my OS, or do I have to reinstall them in the image?
[14:33] <cousteau> (also, will that work any better than, say, emulating the program in Wine?  Because the Windows version of the program totally works in Wine.  It's a Steam videogame and they have this Proton thing that makes running Windows games very easy.)
[14:33] <ravage> then just run it on steam
[14:34] <kovital> What is the recommended digital assistant on linux / ubuntu? like alexa / google assistant or siri ? to set up alarms, or get audio notifications, etc?
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> yes-ubuntu: also check https://ubuntu.com/certified/201906-27151
[14:34] <ravage> kovital: none as they all invade your privacy in a non-acceptable way. if you want recommendations about open source software see #ubuntu-discuss
[14:34] <cousteau> ravage: that's the idea, yes.  But I feel that the Windows version runs worse than the native version (which is also in Steam)
[14:35] <ravage> so backup your files. install 22.04 LTS. be happy
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:36] <kovital> it does not invade more my privacy than another program, especially web browsers with links tracking e-mails or whatnot. I thought there was one that i did not know about. like 'Tuxana' lol :P
[14:37] <ravage> kovital: see my previous statement
[14:39] <cousteau> ...although I may give the container fix a try, I think I'll probably stick to the Windows version until I can't stand the low performance any longer and I'm forced to upgrade to 20.04 -- that way I'll be motivated to upgrade :)
[14:39] <ravage> support for 18.04 ends in april
[14:39] <ravage> should be enough motivation to act soon
[14:39] <cousteau> you don't know me
[14:40] <ravage> good luck
[14:40]  * cousteau is ashamed of his own laziness, but has learned to live with it because he's too lazy to change it
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> upgrade commands are pretty easy
[14:42] <cousteau> ravage: don't get me wrong... yours is good advice; I just don't trust myself to follow through
[14:47] <cousteau> https://askubuntu.com/a/661885  wow, this might be super-useful!
[15:19] <spinningCat> what is marionette port?
[15:19] <oerheks> spinningCat, where did you find that?
[15:20] <spinningCat> i am trying to use selenium with firefox
[15:21] <spinningCat> this is the question i wrote on stackoverflow https://stackoverflow.com/questions/75420079/selenium-common-exceptions-timeoutexception-message-failed-to-read-marionette
[15:22] <oerheks> I think it happens because firefox is a snap package https://www.reddit.com/r/learnpython/comments/uzn58t/selenium_message_failed_to_read_marionette_port/
[15:26] <spinningCat> so if i build from source that will work?
[15:27] <spinningCat> should i understand that?
[15:28] <spinningCat> i could see the relation tbh
[15:41] <spinningCat> oerheks,  i downloaded firefox from source i will copy firefox execute to /usr/bin
[15:48] <spinningCat> i download firefox and i give +x to binary firefox file and also i am root
[15:48] <spinningCat> this is what i got Exec failed with error: Permission denied
[15:48] <spinningCat>  any idea?
[16:02] <oerheks>  " i download firefox" ?? download from their website is a .deb
[16:02] <oerheks> install that with dpkg -i firefox.deb
[16:05] <spinningCat> as tar.bz
[16:06] <spinningCat> i opened it and now i will give symlins to the firefox ececutable
[16:06] <oerheks> that sounds like source code, build it.
[16:06] <oerheks> !build
[16:06] <ravage> mozilla does not offer any deb files
[16:06] <oerheks> oh?
[16:06] <oerheks> good
[16:06] <ravage> they provide a binary release
[16:07] <ravage> thats what he downloaded
[16:07] <oerheks> no clue how to handle that
[16:07] <ravage> extract it and run the firefox binary
[16:08] <spinningCat> there is no configure file
[16:08] <spinningCat> there is firefox executables and other files
[16:08] <spinningCat> ./firefox command will work
[16:08] <spinningCat> i just have to use firefox in selenium
[16:09] <spinningCat> thats why i will give sym link there
[16:09] <alkisg> spinningCat: there's a firefox.deb in the mozilla team ppa if you need it. See also https://ltsp.org/guides/snap/
[16:10] <spinningCat> snap package gave me error i mentioned above thats why i am trying source code
[16:11] <alkisg> spinningCat: yes, the link says how to install the .deb package
[16:11] <spinningCat> firefox has a problem with selenium
[16:11] <spinningCat> i will take a look
[16:12] <alkisg> Or just google "mozillateam ppa", you'll find numerous guides on how to use it
[16:13] <spinningCat> thanks
[16:14] <defiant> Heyayaya, what program is handling the "safely remove" feature for external disks in Ubuntu?
[16:14] <spinningCat> i need to solve that error hope one of the method will work
[16:15] <bobur> how to fix bios
[16:15] <leftyfb> bobur: you're looking for #hardware
[16:15] <bobur> Hallo
[16:16] <spinningCat> seems source code solve the problem
[16:16] <eax_> spinningCat: you shouldn't have to go through all of that. Have you installed the FF driver for selenium? i.e geckodriver
[16:16] <spinningCat> yeah
[16:16] <bobur> how to fix Bios in linux mint?
[16:17] <spinningCat> that port problem i guess it is because of unstable connection between firefox and geckodriver
[16:17] <leftyfb> !mint | bobur
[16:17] <bobur> how to fix Bios in Ubuntu?
[16:17] <eax_> bobur: lol
[16:17] <leftyfb> bobur: what is wrong with your BIOS?
[16:18] <bobur> i don't know
[16:18] <leftyfb> bobur: The OS doesn't "fix" your BIOS
[16:18] <mrkubax10> bobur: then how do you expect for someone to know?
[16:18] <bobur> are u guys real?
[16:18] <bobur> it is my first time
[16:18] <oerheks> bobur, explain your bios issue ?
[16:18] <bobur> umm it's said bios disabled
[16:19] <bobur> and
[16:19] <oerheks> "it" ?
[16:19] <bobur> i caanot enter bios
[16:19] <leftyfb> bobur: /join #hardware for support. This has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[16:19] <ogra> spinningCat, the firefox snap geckodriver issue is long fixed, but you need to set up your geckodriver config accordingly (in case you want to keep a supported firefox version instead of a sideloaded deb or the tarball) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1769991
[16:19] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Mozilla bug 1769991 in Testing "Geckodriver cannot launch firefox from within snap confinement" [S3, Resolved: Fixed]
[16:19] <bobur> when i want to change other operation sysyem
[16:20] <leftyfb> can you boot into ubuntu?
[16:20] <bobur> yes
[16:20] <bobur> i can
[16:21] <leftyfb> bobur: ok, boot into ubuntu and run this please so we can help you further:   ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:21] <leftyfb> run that and paste the resulting URL here
[16:22] <bobur> on terminal?
[16:22] <leftyfb> yes
[16:24] <bobur> i did
[16:24] <bobur> then?
[16:24] <leftyfb> bobur: follow the result of my instructions
[16:25] <bobur> okey
[16:26] <tomreyn> if your computer is connected to the internet, it would have printed a url which you would post here
[16:27] <bobur> it saying " Linux bobur-Lenovo-G50-30 5.15.0-58-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 5 11:43:13 UTC 2023 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:27] <bobur> bash: cat/etc/os/release: No such file or directory
[16:27] <leftyfb> bobur:    ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:27] <oerheks> space after cat
[16:27] <tomreyn> there should have been a space character after "cat"
[16:28] <bobur> Linux bobur-Lenovo-G50-30 5.15.0-58-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 5 11:43:13 UTC 2023 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:28] <bobur> NAME="Linux Mint"
[16:28] <bobur> VERSION="21 (Vanessa)"
[16:28] <bobur> ID=linuxmint
[16:28] <bobur> ID_LIKE="ubuntu debian"
[16:28] <bobur> PRETTY_NAME="Linux Mint 21"
[16:29] <tomreyn> we do not support linux mint here. please install ubuntu and join us again.
[16:29] <leftyfb> bobur: first: you're not typing everything you were told you type. second, you're running Linux Mint which we already told you isn't supported here
[16:29] <leftyfb> !mint | bobur
[16:30] <leftyfb> bobur: ^ go there for support with Linux Mint
[16:30] <tomreyn> regarding your bios issue, you can try a web search for "Lenovo" "G50-30" "manual"
[16:38] <spinningCat> i have local and server machine
[16:38] <spinningCat> i am getting error in local that i didnt get on server like ypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'service'
[16:39] <tomreyn> discuss ubuntu versions, python versions, commands run, full output.
[16:40] <tomreyn> !paste | spinningCat
[16:40] <spinningCat> okay sure
[17:10] <mybalzitch> I thought ubuntu-pro was gonna be free for 5 comps or less
[17:11] <mybalzitch> oh there it is
[17:21] <spinningCat> snap package have a problem with selenium
[17:22] <spinningCat> download source and symlinks firefox, there wont be any problem
[17:22] <oerheks> spinningCat, like i said with that url
[17:23] <spinningCat> that seems weird to me
[17:23] <spinningCat> well chrome works fluent
[18:56] <ashafq> What is the name of pulseaudio service on Ubuntu 20.04?
[19:01] <ravage> pulseaudio does not run system wide
[19:01] <ravage> it runs as your user
[19:02] <ashafq> I see
[19:02] <ashafq> How does it start then?
[19:02] <leftyfb> ashafq: systemctl --user status pulseaudio
[19:02] <ashafq> leftyfb: Thanks
[19:06] <ashafq> Can anyone also point me to writing plugins for pulseaudio?
[19:27] <teenytree[m]> hey guys I'm trying to disable one of my hdmi audio output on 22.04 in older version of ubuntu (prior to 22.04) i was able to do that using the configuration tab in pavucontrol. However trying to do it in 22.04 I am only seeing Cannon point-LP high def audio controller. I suspect it has something to do with pulseaudio/pipewire but I'm not sure.
[19:38] <rabby2> hello
[19:38] <rabby2> I have some problems with keypad , 20.04 LTS
[19:38] <rabby2> xubuntu
[19:52] <leprechaun> 12255696988**--++
[19:54] <CarlFK> ip a shows 3: eth-local: <BROADCAST... (and 2 other interfaces)
[19:54] <CarlFK> how do I get just eth-local?
[19:55] <leftyfb> CarlFK: ip s show dev eth-local
[19:55] <leftyfb> CarlFK: https://linux.die.net/man/8/ip
[19:55] <leftyfb> CarlFK: ip a show dev eth-local
[19:55] <leftyfb> sorry, typo
[19:57] <CarlFK> thanks - next up, does anything tell me if the link light is on? (I am trying to figure out if the switch it is plugged into got turned off or cable unplugged
[19:57] <leftyfb> CarlFK: cat /sys/class/net/eth-local/operstate
[19:58] <leftyfb> actually, "speed" might be better than "operstate"
[19:58] <CarlFK> huh.  didn't ifconfig show us that?  and ip command replaces ifconfig?
[19:58] <CarlFK> up and 1000 - so that's "encouraging"
[19:59] <rbox> ip will show no carrier
[20:01] <leftyfb> CarlFK: the output of ip a show dev does show "UP" or "DOWN"
[20:04] <leftyfb> CarlFK: ip a show dev eth-local|grep -o state.*|awk '{print $2}'
[20:08] <CarlFK> ah, I see the UP now
[20:08] <leprechaun> Does anyone know how to configure wayland with nvidia drivers installed... I have seen a milion of sites using diffrent settings but no one that works.
[20:08] <leftyfb> leprechaun: pretty sure nvidia doesn't officially support wayland
[20:09] <leprechaun> ok thx
[20:10] <CarlFK> ip a show dev eth-local|grep -o state.*
[20:10] <CarlFK> er.. whopps.
[20:16] <CarlFK> check this out:  ip -json a show dev eth-local | jq ".[0].operstate"
[20:16] <CarlFK> "UP"
[20:16] <CarlFK> -json is my new best friend
[20:19] <leftyfb> CarlFK: jq -r .[].operstate
[20:20] <leftyfb> never thought of/knew there was a -json. That could be helpful going forward
[20:21] <CarlFK> # find the upstream IP
[20:21] <CarlFK> ip=$(ip -json route show default | jq ".[0].gateway" --raw-output)
[20:22] <CarlFK> https://github.com/CarlFK/pici/blob/main/ansible/roles/cam/pi/files/gst-libcam.sh#L15
[21:10] <rabby2> hello
[21:12] <rabby2> how uninstall libreoffice definitely ?
[21:13] <rbox> with apt
[21:13] <leprechaun> sudo apt purge
[21:13] <leprechaun> then autoremove
[21:13] <rabby2> rbox, with apt the next time return again ?
[21:13] <rbox> packages dont magically install themselves...
[21:14] <rabby2>  with apt the next time apt update  apt upgradereturn again ?
[21:14] <leftyfb> rabby2: no
[21:14] <rabby2> ok
[21:20] <dingodare> FREETALKLIVE
[21:21] <leftyfb> dingodare: no
[21:21] <leftyfb> !ot | dingodare
[21:21] <dingodare> leftyfb: Roger
[21:23] <dingodare> leftyfb: there were a few idiots on the linux cmd chat last night (i was one of them) asking questions. I was of no help, tried telling them to come here. One of them had a question about autodesk maya on mint
[21:23] <leftyfb> dingodare: This is a support channel for Ubuntu. We cannot support other distro's or 3rd party applications
[21:33] <mike_> ciaoooo
[21:56] <leprechaun> leftyfb are there a list of avalible commands on ubottu
[21:57] <leftyfb> leprechaun: not that I know of. It's not something to be played with. It's a tool used by the volunteers providing Ubuntu support
[21:57] <leprechaun> ok
[22:09] <leprechaun> good night!
[22:11] <aflel> what is this
[23:26] <tanja1993> I have a question how come is it ubuntu hides security upgrades to some opensource software behind a paywall
[23:27] <leftyfb> tanja1993: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-advantage-tools/+bug/1992026
[23:28] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1992026 in ubuntu-advantage-tools (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Pro APT integration is a bit much" [Critical, In Progress]
[23:28] <tanja1993> like I have just installed imagemagick and right away i'm faced with The following security updates require Ubuntu Pro
[23:29] <mybalzitch> you can get a "free" ubuntu one account and it comes with 5 seats for the time being
[23:30] <leftyfb> tanja1993: please read through the bug. Updates to packages in the community universe repository were never part of the LTE updates previously. This is a new feature Canonical is rolling out but only if you enable pro. Which as mentioned, is free for up to 5 devices
[23:30] <tanja1993> mybalzitch: well O'm not interested in selling telemetry data to Canonical
[23:31] <leftyfb> tanja1993: then continue receiving updates for the thousands of packages that Ubuntu has kept updated regularly
[23:32] <leftyfb> tanja1993: the problem isn't the service. The problem is the advertising for the service when doing apt upgrades. Multiple people including myself are trying to get it removed
[23:32] <tanja1993> leftyfb: I'm not signing up to anything there is sending my telemetry data or signing up to sell my soul to a open source software
[23:33] <leftyfb> tanja1993: ok, then there's no problem.
[23:33] <tanja1993> then I could just be on windows and also I'm even on 22.04 so its not EOL
[23:34] <leftyfb> tanja1993: ok, it sounds like you still don't understand the issue
[23:34] <leftyfb> tanja1993: historically, Ubuntu has left it up to the community to patch packages in the universe repository
[23:35] <leftyfb> tanja1993: you will still get those updates when/if the community updates those packages
[23:35] <leftyfb> but, Canonical has started patching some of those packages sooner (or at all) and allowed users to take advantage of that by enabling pro
[23:36] <tanja1993> I do ang again I have just installed the imagemagick from the official apt repo and then it forces me to sign up and pay for pro because its says there is security updates
[23:36] <leftyfb> tanja1993: if you don't want that service, then there's nothing for you to do. You're good
[23:36] <leftyfb> tanja1993: it does not force anything. It's an advertisement
[23:36] <tanja1993> The following security updates require Ubuntu Pro with 'esm-apps' enabled: imagemagick libopenexr25 libmagickcore-6.q16-6-extra libmagickwand-6.q16-6 imagemagick-6.q16 libmagickcore-6.q16-6 imagemagick-6-common
[23:36] <leftyfb> tanja1993: you can wait till the community updates those packages as they might normally
[23:36] <Habbie> (it just very much sounds like it forces things, which is the -communication- problem that leftyfb mentioned)
[23:36] <tanja1993> It does force and wont install them
[23:37] <leftyfb> tanja1993: it's an ad
[23:37] <leftyfb> "if you'd like these packages updates sooner than normal, enable this service"
[23:37] <leftyfb> if you don't then ignore it
[23:38] <leftyfb> tanja1993: or wait for the possibility of Canonical listening to the community and removing the message from apt
[23:38] <tanja1993> it literally says "The following security updates require Ubuntu Pro with 'esm-apps' enabled"
[23:38] <tanja1993> so it its not only an ad and its in the apt putput
[23:38] <tanja1993> *output
[23:38] <leftyfb> tanja1993: yes, the messaging is bad
[23:38] <leftyfb> we're trying to get it removed
[23:38] <leftyfb> you'll have to ignore it or be patient
[23:41] <tanja1993> There is no paitient tbh. Canonibel or what to call those bastards have literally destroyed ubuntu with forcing snaps, netplan, breaking things and now this
[23:42] <leftyfb> !coc | tanja1993
[23:42] <leftyfb> also, netplan is the new standard across most distro's
[23:42] <tanja1993> is there really only one real linux left now a days ( Redhat ) on the server side since centos closed
[23:43] <leftyfb> tanja1993: please stay on topic
[23:44] <tomreyn> tanja1993: pleeeease, just drop it. this channel is not for discussions.
[23:44] <tanja1993> loke their first bad thingwere back in the daus they forced you to opt in to their search partner ( I believe that were back in 12.04 )
[23:45] <ravage> maybe it is time for the silent stair tomreyn :P