[00:05] <Alexion> EriC^^: thanks for the suggestion (booting from ISO file)
[00:05] <Alexion> topcat001:never heard of Ventoy until now, but I think I used something similar called YUMI
[00:33] <stevemcqueen> Hello, I'm having issues mounting an SMB share. I have two devices, laptop (Ubuntu 22.04) and desktop (20.04). I have mounted the same NAS device on both, in the exact same way (systemd mount) with the exact same options. Both appear to mount correctly. On the desktop, file created/modified timestamps are preserved, so things like rsync will work properly. On the laptop, file timestamps are NOT, so rsync keeps re-uploading the same file over and over
[00:34] <stevemcqueen> when I compare "mount -v" between the two devices, the newer laptop seems to add a few extra options: forceuid/guid becomes noforceuid/guid, iocharset=utf8, serverino, x-systemd.automount. otherwise they're the same
[00:35] <stevemcqueen> so, for example, if I 'cp -p test.txt', for a file made at 12:00pm, the last modified time will keep changing each time i do it
[00:37] <stevemcqueen> if i do that with the slightly older desktop, otherwise completely set up the same way, it works properly, the file stays at '12:00pm' modified
[02:12] <RaimondRaj> ./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.1.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:12] <RaimondRaj> show this erorr once i do upgrade
[02:12] <RaimondRaj> stil cant solve it
[02:12] <rbox> upgrade of what
[02:12] <RaimondRaj> ubuntu
[02:13] <rbox> sounds like you didnt upgrade your eggdrop
[02:13] <RaimondRaj> my eggdrop
[02:14] <RaimondRaj> how and why
[02:14] <rbox> how what
[02:14] <RaimondRaj> im useing latest eggdrop
[02:14] <rbox> where did yo uget it
[02:14] <RaimondRaj> once i upgrade it
[02:14] <RaimondRaj> on my vps
[02:14] <EriC^^> which ubuntu version?
[02:16] <RaimondRaj> Description:    Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS
[02:16] <RaimondRaj> Codename:       jammy
[02:17] <RaimondRaj>  error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.1.1
[02:18] <EriC^^> i think it's cause openssl is now newer maybe and you have libssl.so.3
[02:19] <RaimondRaj> openssl/jammy-updates,jammy-security,now 3.0.2-0ubuntu1.8 amd64 [installed]
[02:22] <EriC^^> RaimondRaj: maybe you could use a symlink to trick it to use the newer openssl
[02:23] <RaimondRaj> please guide me on this
[02:23] <EriC^^> RaimondRaj: sudo ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.3 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.1
[02:24] <rbox> oh yeah, tahts not going to blow up in his face
[02:25] <EriC^^> any suggestions then?
[02:26] <leftyfb> upgrade eggdrop
[02:26] <leftyfb> either use the package available in ubuntu or recompile what they've got there
[02:26] <EriC^^> RaimondRaj: ^
[02:28] <RaimondRaj> yes
[02:28] <RaimondRaj> ln: failed to create symbolic link '/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.1': File exists
[02:28] <RaimondRaj> the last part line
[02:29] <devslash> I am installing Ubuntu on my laptop which has a 500GB drive. gonna repartition the drive for Ubuntu. Do i need to make a boot partition ?
[02:29] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: upgrade or recompile your eggdrop.
[02:29] <rbox> devslash: should just leavea the defaults if you dont know what you are doing
[02:29] <devslash> I do know what I am doing
[02:30] <leftyfb> devslash: just follow the guided install
[02:30] <rbox> devslash: then you woudln't be asking that question...
[02:30] <devslash> so fuck me for asking I guess
[02:31] <leftyfb> devslash: there's no need for that
[02:31] <oerheks> guided install, automatic, and you are fine.
[02:31] <RaimondRaj>  <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: upgrade or recompile your eggdrop.im useing lates eggdrop and why do i need to recompile
[02:31] <RaimondRaj> is that any new setting / line need to be add
[02:31] <EriC^^> devslash: no need for /boot
[02:32] <devslash> thanks
[02:32] <EriC^^> nor swap, just use a /swapfile
[02:32] <RaimondRaj> i face this problem went im do update
[02:32] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; apt-cache policy eggdrop ; which eggdrop ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:32] <devslash> EriC^^, do you mean that I dont need a swap partition ?
[02:32] <RaimondRaj> https://termbin.com/b6dew
[02:33] <EriC^^> devslash: yeah, by default ubuntu uses a /swapfile these days
[02:33] <devslash> EriC^^, fwiw, I have 12GN of ram
[02:33] <devslash> ok thanks
[02:33] <EriC^^> no problem
[02:34] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: you're not running the eggdrop package from ubuntu. If you compiled it, you need to recompile it
[02:35] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: I would suggest you just use the packaged version
[02:35] <RaimondRaj> same pck version
[02:35] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: that's not the point
[02:35] <RaimondRaj> even i ant run my eggdrop also
[02:35] <RaimondRaj> error
[02:35] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: you compiled your eggdrop against your previous version of ubuntu with outdated libraries
[02:36] <RaimondRaj> ok
[02:36] <RaimondRaj> that means i need to redo my eggdrop back
[02:36] <RaimondRaj> oh god
[02:36] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: I really suggest just using the package version
[02:37] <RaimondRaj> oh god im stuck
[02:37] <RaimondRaj> please guide me
[02:38] <oerheks> eggdrop: Installed: (none)
[02:38] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: sudo apt install eggdrop
[02:38] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: move/backup the eggdrop binaries you have
[02:38] <leftyfb> so they don't conflict
[02:39] <RaimondRaj> its ok i can redo back but stil take some time
[02:40] <RaimondRaj> of god
[02:40] <RaimondRaj> leftyfb
[02:40] <RaimondRaj> can u tech me how to reformat my vps
[02:40] <RaimondRaj> use ssh code
[02:40] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: you don't. You contact your VPN company for help with that
[02:40] <RaimondRaj> i need reformat think so
[02:40] <RaimondRaj> oh ok
[02:41] <RaimondRaj> i worrie will be any error if install new
[02:41] <WaV> Typically there is an option to "delete" the system and you just start a new one.
[02:42] <jhutchins> RaimondRaj: Get comfortable with the basics before you move on to more advanced configurations and projects.
[02:42] <RaimondRaj> im worrie im istall the wrong binry or pcgs
[02:42] <jhutchins> RaimondRaj: Linux has what we call a "steep learning curve".  There is a lot to learn at the beginning, but once you master the basics it's much easier to learn the higher level topics.
[02:43] <RaimondRaj> im try to do it since yesterday
[02:43] <RaimondRaj> stil unsolve
[02:43] <jhutchins> RaimondRaj: Use guides, stick to the defaults, don't add extras.
[02:43] <jhutchins> RaimondRaj: Take notes, make backups.
[02:43] <RaimondRaj> ok jhutchins help me to solve it
[02:44] <RaimondRaj> i will take note from it
[02:46] <jhutchins> RaimondRaj: I'm sorry, I'm really not available right now.  (Among other things I'm helping with cooking dinner.)
[02:46] <RaimondRaj> jhutchins then stop advice other if u cant make it
[02:47] <rbox> rofl
[02:47] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: contact your VPS company and have them purge and rebuild your instance. Then install your eggdrop and eggdrop configs
[02:49] <oerheks> tell us what guide you followed for that manually installed eggdrop ?
[02:50] <RaimondRaj> yeah i already open ticket
[02:50] <RaimondRaj> ask them to reformat my vps
[02:51] <mybalzitch> does the gnome online accounts thing fail no matter what if you have TOTP enabled for the nextcloud account you want to add?
[02:52] <leftyfb> mybalzitch: you should ask for help with that in #nextcloud
[02:53] <leftyfb> mybalzitch: I don't think "online accounts" supports TOTP
[02:53] <leftyfb> that said, if you used oath2, that would ask for TOTP the first time you authenticated but then not need it again
[02:53] <mybalzitch> its just werid because my google accounts require MFA and online accounts handled it fine
[02:54] <leftyfb> right, OATH2
[02:54] <leftyfb> OAUTH2
[02:55] <oerheks> login as root admin in web  go to “Apps” section  find “TOTP” and click “Enable untrusted app”
[02:56] <leftyfb> oerheks: you're referring to the nextcloud "Apps" right?
[02:56] <oerheks> yes
[02:57] <mybalzitch> oerheks: thank you I'll try that
[02:57] <mybalzitch> googling was giving less helpful suggestions
[03:06] <mybalzitch> https://github.com/nextcloud/twofactor_totp/issues/246#issuecomment-744498201 seems to be the ideal solution
[03:06] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 246 in nextcloud/twofactor_totp "Can't login with Gnome 3 online accounts" [Closed]
[04:43] <klu``> Hi my existing Ubuntu system is installed on a 1TB SATA3 SSD. I plan to migrate it to a 1TB NVMe SSD. What would be the high level steps? Is it as simple as dd clone the disk byte-by-byte from a live CD environment? do I need to do anything special about the boot sectors (non-EFI)?
[04:44] <arraybolt3> klu``: Assuming the destination SSD is large enough, you should be able to do something along the lines of "sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/nvme0n1 bs=4M" and then it should Just Work.
[04:44] <arraybolt3> However, sometimes drives are just *barely* different sizes even though they are supposedly 1 TB or whatever.
[04:45] <klu``> do I need to worry about changing anything in the grub config?
[04:45] <arraybolt3> Also GPT partition tables add some complication.
[04:46] <arraybolt3> It shouldn't be necessary to change anything in GRUB, I don't believe, though you might run "sudo update-grub" after the first bootup.
[04:46] <arraybolt3> It should use UUIDs to identify partitions, and if you clone the whole drive, the UUIDs will remain the same.
[04:46] <arraybolt3> (If it uses device names like /dev/sda or (hd0, gpt1) or the like, though, then yes, you will need changes. But you shouldn't be doing that anyway.)
[04:47] <devslash> does Ubuntu Desktop have a built in firewall besides  ufw
[04:47] <arraybolt3> Personally, what I'd try is shrinking the last partition on the source SSD a bit, then cloning the whole drive. If you shrink the last partition enough, it should fit.
[04:47] <klu``> just checked, I have an EFI system with GPT partition table...
[04:47] <devslash> Ubuntu 22.10 BTW
[04:48] <arraybolt3> klu``: As for the bit with the GPT partition table, I don't know if it will cause any trouble, I would assume not though. (I believe GPT partition tables make a big "contaienr" holding all the disk space, so if you transfer it to a different drive it may be confused by that.)
[04:48] <leftyfb> devslash: no
[04:49] <arraybolt3> klu``: But I don't think that will prevent booting, and I assume it should be relatively easy to fix.
[04:49] <devslash> ive got this weird problem where 2 different ssh clients are saying connection refused but thats wrong because i Double checked the ssh ip address and port
[04:49] <klu``> arraybolt3: yeah makes sense! looks like I should just give it a try :)
[04:50] <arraybolt3> Yeah, it looks like you might lose the secondary GPT header doing that trick, but again I don't think that will prevent booting, it just might need repaired somehow.
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> devslash: ubuntu doesnt block ports by default, the users choice to setup firewall
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> devslash: maybe router firewall?
[04:51] <leftyfb> devslash: from one of the clients:   sudo nmap -p22 <ip.of.ubuntu 22.10>
[04:51] <leftyfb> devslash: on server:  sudo lsof -i :22
[04:52] <arraybolt3> klu``: This looks like it will fix a busted backup GPT header, which is probably what will happen doing the drive clone. https://askubuntu.com/questions/386752/fixing-corrupt-backup-gpt-table
[04:53] <arraybolt3> (Again, your drive *should* work just fine, but that I believe will let you fix the complication I was mentioning.)
[04:58] <klu``> arraybolt3: this is great! I took note of what we talked about. will try it out once my new nvme SSD arrives :)
[04:58] <devslash> i am using ufw
[04:58] <devslash> every device except this laptop with ubuntu 22.10 can connect
[04:59] <devslash> i am using ufw on the serve rside
[04:59] <leftyfb> devslash: disable it and then test
[04:59] <devslash> i rebooted the server
[04:59] <devslash> that is not the issue here
[04:59] <leftyfb> devslash: disable ufw and then test
[04:59] <devslash> i did
[04:59] <leftyfb> devslash: are you using the ip or hostname to connect?
[04:59] <devslash> this laptop with ubuntu 22 refuses to connect
[04:59] <devslash> both
[05:00] <leftyfb> devslash: can the laptop ping the ip of the server?
[05:00] <devslash> yes
[05:00] <leftyfb> devslash: are they on the same local network/subnet?
[05:00] <devslash> yes
[05:00] <devslash> this laptop also has windows 11 which connects just fine
[05:00] <leftyfb> devslash: do an nmap from the laptop to the server and compare to an nmap from another client to the server
[05:01] <leftyfb> devslash: also, I wonder if you have some sort of config or setting in the sshd on the server
[05:01] <devslash> doubt it
[05:01] <devslash> every other device works fine
[05:02] <devslash> nmap shows the port as closed
[05:02] <devslash> but thats not true
[05:02] <leftyfb> devslash: you know you can specify ip's and users who are and aren't allowed to ssh from the sshd config right?
[05:02] <devslash> yes
[05:02] <devslash> i did not specify ips
[05:02] <leftyfb> devslash: do a full nmap:  sudo nmap -P0 <ip of server>
[05:03] <leftyfb> and do the same from another client and compare
[05:04] <leftyfb> also, from the laptop and another linux client: arp -a <ip of server>
[05:04] <leftyfb> compare MACs
[05:04] <devslash> weird so i just discovered something
[05:04] <devslash> my phone works outside of my lan
[05:04] <devslash> if i enable wifi it says connection refused
[05:04] <leftyfb> devslash: what does your phone have to do with anything?
[05:04] <devslash> its how i am testing the connection
[05:04] <devslash> ot has everything to do with it
[05:05] <devslash> its how i connect the majority of the time to my ssh server
[05:05] <leftyfb> devslash: you said you were testing with an ubuntu laptop to an ubuntu server
[05:05] <devslash> yes
[05:05] <devslash> but that doesnt work
[05:05] <devslash> my phone does
[05:05] <devslash> and i can enable or disable wifi to test off and on my network
[05:06] <leftyfb> we're troubleshooting to and from ubuntu. Not a phone
[05:06] <arraybolt3> leftyfb: The point is that the network connected to is changing the behavior.
[05:06] <arraybolt3> devslash: Can you tether your laptop to the phone and then try to connect?
[05:06] <arraybolt3> That would let you try using the phone's network from Ubuntu.
[05:06] <devslash> yes but that will work arraybolt3
[05:07] <leftyfb> arraybolt3: the ubuntu server and the ubuntu laptop are on the same local network/subnet. A phone using wifi or cellular means nothing in this test
[05:07] <arraybolt3> leftyfb: Then why does the problem only occur when the server and client are on the same LAN, but not when they are on different networks?
[05:08] <leftyfb> arraybolt3: the laptop and server are on the same local lan. There has been no mention of other networks
[05:08] <arraybolt3> Seeing the error be specific to the network the client connects to seems like an important snippet of data.
[05:08] <arraybolt3> leftyfb: Yes, there has been. The cellular network that the phone connects to. Thus why I ask if devslash can connect their laptop to their phone via tethering and then test.
[05:08] <arraybolt3> In other words, accessing the server over the LAN fails, but accessing it over WAN succeeds.
[05:08] <leftyfb> :/
[05:09] <leftyfb> devslash: please clarify your setup
[05:10] <devslash> ubuntu 22 on laptop  that doesnt connection to ubuntu server 22
[05:10] <leftyfb> devslash: I am assuming a laptop and server connected via ethernet or wifi on the same local network/subnet with the same ip space with no networks, routes or VLANS inbetween and where neither one of them move to other networks at all
[05:10] <devslash> wifi
[05:10] <devslash> on same network obiously
[05:10] <leftyfb> great, lets keep it at that and forget about the phone which has nothing to do with troubleshooting traffic between 2 pc's on the same local segment
[05:11] <devslash> it has a lot because you have a known good device
[05:11] <devslash> so its not the same server ive been for years
[05:11] <devslash> all of a sudden i can no longer connect
[05:11] <devslash> BRB need  to do one more thing to troubleshoot
[05:12] <gebbione> hello
[05:12] <arraybolt3> devslash: Did you modify any settings on your router recently?
[05:13] <arraybolt3> Anything like "Privacy mode" or similar?
[05:13] <arraybolt3> Or might a family member have modified something like that?
[05:18] <devslash> i disabled ufw on the server
[05:18] <devslash> still doesnt work
[05:18] <devslash> arraybolt3, no and no one else can even do that
[05:18] <devslash> the only thing that changed was my isp installed a new modem but its connected to my router which did not change
[05:19] <devslash> no my phone wont connect either
[05:19] <devslash> now my phone wont connect either
[05:20] <arraybolt3> devslash: Is the SSH server crashing by any chance?
[05:20] <devslash> no
[05:20] <devslash> i checked the logs
[05:22] <arraybolt3> *shrug* well it has me stumped. An intermittently accessible SSH server that is WAN-accessible sometimes but not LAN-accessible, that isn't crashing, and where the network hasn't changed. That. makes. no. sense. To me, at least.
[05:22] <arraybolt3> devslash: And are you sure you didn't change any settings on your clients or server recently?
[05:22] <devslash> yes 100%
[05:22] <devslash> no else has access or knowledge to change it
[05:23] <arraybolt3> Maybe the server's WiFi connection is dropping intermittently?
[05:23] <devslash> the only change is a new modem
[05:23] <devslash> doesnt work even outside my lan
[05:23] <arraybolt3> Also, are you acccessing the server via IP address or domain name?
[05:23] <arraybolt3> And if by domain name, are you using a .local domain?
[05:24] <arraybolt3> i.e., one broadcast by Avahi (I believe)?
[05:30] <devslash> trird both ip and domain
[05:30] <devslash> domain is a subdomain of a domain i own
[05:30] <devslash> need a minute i am now having major server issues
[05:30] <arraybolt3> I'm grasping at straws here, but are you sure that the server's IP is (still) static?
[05:30] <devslash> yes
[05:31] <arraybolt3> Is the server on your LAN also?
[05:31] <arraybolt3> (It sounds like it might be a remote server if it's on a subdomain of a domain you own.)
[05:31] <devslash> yes
[05:31] <devslash> yes
[05:31] <devslash> no
[05:31] <devslash> its all local
[05:31] <devslash> im having server problems
[05:32] <devslash> brb
[05:32] <arraybolt3> Congratulations, you are now the proud owner of Schrodinger's Server. I can't figure it out, sadly. If you find out what went wrong, please let us know, ecause this is confusing to an extreme.
[05:32] <devslash> its now says "a start job is running for /dev/sda1" at boot up
[05:33] <alkisg> devslash: just catching up here. So the problem is that SOMETIMES you can't access your SSH server on the same LAN? When that problem happens, can you login locally to the server, and run `ssh localhost`, and see if that works?
[05:36] <devslash> brb
[05:36] <gebbione> i am still trying to troubleshoot the error https://pasteboard.co/qW9y9FGbMrjc.jpg and i was wondering if after reinstalling the kernel i should do anything else to fix the boot, i just did a update-grub .. anything else i might be missing?
[05:38] <alkisg> gebbione: fsck?
[05:38] <devslash> fsck me....
[05:41] <gebbione> anything else whilst i am chrooted?
[05:41] <gebbione> it looks like i need to unmount the partition before i can run it]
[05:42] <alkisg> gebbione: I usually run a `sudo dpkg -V` to check for file corruption; it'll take a while...
[05:46] <gebbione> lots of missing output
[05:46] <devslash> im stumped. ssh just broke for no obvious reason
[05:46] <devslash> no errors reported or anything
[05:47] <devslash> do you think someone couldve hacked my server
[05:47] <devslash> thats the only explanation i can think of
[05:47] <alkisg> gebbione: pastebin some?
[06:00] <gebbione> alkisg, sorry i will paste asap
[06:09] <gebbione> alkisg https://termbin.com/und79j
[06:10] <alkisg> gebbione: which kernel version are you trying to boot with?
[06:10] <gebbione> unfortunately not a complete list
[06:10] <gebbione> termbin didn't get the full output
[06:11] <gebbione> alkisg, https://pasteboard.co/qW9y9FGbMrjc.jpg this one ... 6.0.0-1011
[06:11] <gebbione> i wanted to remove it but broke the boot up process
[06:11] <gebbione> so i just reinstalled all kernels i could
[06:11] <gebbione> run update-grub
[06:11] <alkisg> And none of them boots?
[06:12] <gebbione> well i had not done update-grub. I am stuck with that error but before i boot from the live usb ubuntu i just wanted to ensure i did all i could
[06:12] <alkisg> sudo dpkg -V >/tmp/dpkg.txt && cat /tmp/dpkg.txt | nc termbin.com 9999 [06:12] <alkisg> ...termbin terminates the connection after a few seconds, so it's not good to pipe long-running commands to it
[06:14] <gebbione> makes sense, thank you
[06:14] <gebbione> also sed /boot/reboot/
[06:15] <gebbione> alkisg, https://termbin.com/9bkdc
[06:16] <alkisg> gebbione: since you're not trying to boot with a 4.x kernel, I don't see anything on that list that would be responsible for your boot issue. So go ahead and unmount, fsck, reboot
[06:17] <gebbione> ok i ll try
[06:25] <gebbione> is this the output i m supposed to see from fsck https://pastebin.com/DJ7j9scy
[06:26] <gebbione> my live usb key is a bit old
[06:27] <alkisg> Better use: sudo fsck -f /dev/nvme0n1p1
[06:28] <gebbione> doing some optimisation
[06:29] <gebbione> https://pastebin.com/B8dXfM0W
[06:29] <alkisg> OK, reboot, see if it boots
[06:30] <gebbione> (crossing fingers)
[06:30] <gebbione> same problem :(
[06:31] <alkisg> Can you select another kernel in grub, and see if that one boots?
[06:32] <gebbione> i don't think it gets to grub fine
[06:32] <gebbione> i get to this screen https://pasteboard.co/qW9y9FGbMrjc.jpg and no way to delete to get another boot option
[06:33] <alkisg> Try to hold shift down while it boots, or keep pressing esc if you're in uefi mode
[06:34] <alkisg> (left shift)
[06:34] <gebbione> neither work]
[06:35] <alkisg> Then boot with a live cd and edit grub.cfg so that it does show the grub menu
[06:35] <gebbione> i get to the same panic
[06:35] <alkisg> The problem now is that you don't see the grub menu, right?
[06:35] <alkisg> Because if you see the grub menu, you'll be able to select a previous kernel
[06:35] <gebbione> it usually does
[06:35] <gebbione> i ll try the live cd again
[06:36] <gebbione> a change i made is to remove nomodeset in grub
[06:36] <gebbione> maybe this is causing the problem?
[06:37] <alkisg> Well, it's crashing at "mount_block_root", so I'd think that the GPU isn't related at that point
[06:37] <alkisg> So no, I don't think "nomodeset" causes that issue
[06:39] <gebbione> ok i ll try to paste grub config to see if you have any suggestions
[06:45] <gebbione> does the grub config look good? https://termbin.com/8mmcr
[06:48] <alkisg> GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu
[06:48] <alkisg> GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
[06:48] <alkisg> Add these ^ and run update-grub
[06:48] <alkisg> To be able to see the grub menu
[06:49] <gebbione> i have timeout 3
[06:49] <gebbione> so i should see it
[06:49] <gebbione> i m going to increase it
[06:49] <gebbione> but not sure what difference it will make
[06:49] <alkisg> Hmm true
[06:49] <alkisg> Is there anything else under /etc/default/grub.d?
[06:50] <alkisg> Did you run update-grub while chrooted?
[06:50] <alkisg> Do you bind-mount stuff before chrooting?
[06:50] <alkisg> Maybe also remove GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT
[06:50] <gebbione> yes i mount all the stuff as shown here ... https://askubuntu.com/a/48516 . yes i did run update-grub
[06:51] <gebbione> what about the OS prober
[06:51] <alkisg> It doesn't matter, it's for other operating systems
[06:55] <gebbione> under grub.d there is a file init-select.cfg but it has only comments
[06:56] <GimblySonOfOdin>  /join #firefox
[06:56] <Znevna> one more try
[06:57] <GimblySonOfOdin> :\ why did that fail lol. I'm rusty with IRC
[06:57] <GimblySonOfOdin> Must have had a space
[06:57] <gebbione> space
[06:58] <gebbione> alkisg, looks good before i reboot? https://termbin.com/ank0r
[06:58] <GimblySonOfOdin> Does mozilla/firefox have an IRC channel? I had a firefox specific quesiton
[06:59] <alkisg> gebbione: assuming you also ran update-grub, then sure, it looks good
[07:12] <hermano> Every time I lock the screen the monitor swaps from hdmi to dp, where dp only holds the post bios exit, with some text.
[07:13] <gebbione> alkisg, i can see grub options now
[07:13] <gebbione> wow
[07:13] <gebbione> ok i have a few kernels
[07:13] <alkisg> Nice, now try to boot with an older one
[07:13] <alkisg> See if any one of the actually boots
[07:14] <gebbione> i assume if i continue with the 6 it will fail
[07:14] <gebbione> are intel iotg even supposed to be on my system? i run an AMD CPU
[07:14] <gebbione> i ll go with the 5.15.0-60 generic
[07:22] <gebbione> ok i get back to the screen with the problem where the graphic card does not work
[07:23] <gebbione> now first of all is there a way to remove kernel 6 thoroughly so i don't have for force the older one in the boot sequence or should i fix or look into something else
[07:24] <cybertek> having problems doing apt-get install wireguard: https://pastebin.com/raw/9c3VHAYu
[07:25] <alkisg> gebbione: dpkg -l | grep linux-   ==> will show you the list of packages; then put the 6.0 ones in a `sudo apt purge linux-...blahblah` line
[07:29] <gebbione> i think i like apt list --installed more but once i spot the package can i just apt purge and will it remove it from boot ?
[07:29] <gebbione> and also fix the boot error?
[07:30] <gebbione> or is there something else that needs fixing in the booting configuration
[07:32] <gebbione_> this is what i see if i purge it https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pmxxqRTkWq/
[07:33] <gebbione> cybertek, i am not sure but that looks like it is building it instead of installing it...
[07:35] <alkisg> gebbione: put ALL the 6.0 modules in ONE apt purge line
[07:35] <alkisg> Purging them one by one won't work due to dependencies
[07:35] <alkisg> If you need help in constructing the apt purge line, upload this: dpkg -l | grep linux- | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:36] <alkisg> Removed kernels leave cruft behind, that apt list --installed won't show due to the ^rc state; so I prefer dpkg -l which does show ^rc packages
[07:37] <gebbione_> https://termbin.com/mxvqc
[07:39] <alkisg> gebbione_: OK now run this command in your PC: echo apt purge $(wget https://termbin.com/mxvqc -qO- | awk '/6.0.0/ { print $2 }')
[07:40] <alkisg> It'll tell you the final command to run
[07:40] <alkisg> Then some time you should remove all these 50+ old kernels, they're still in ^rc state :)
[07:42] <gebbione_> i got
[07:42] <gebbione_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9NjWp3g9dV/
[07:44] <alkisg> Yeh, run that
[07:48] <gebbione_> is this a failure https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7kFbSwQbKH/ ? :(
[07:48] <gebbione_> it looks like it doesnt want to remove it to me
[07:49] <alkisg> gebbione_: it's fine; that message is displayed when some dkms modules are removed afterwards
[07:49] <gebbione_> should i update grub?
[07:49] <alkisg> so now this command should be empty: grep 6.0.0 /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:49] <alkisg> It should have already been updated
[07:50] <gebbione_> yep empty
[07:50] <gebbione_> 5.15 is there
[07:50] <gebbione_> ok i ll try to reboot
[07:57] <Znevna> nice collection of kernels he had there
[07:58] <gebbione> ok looks like booting is not a problem anymore
[07:58] <gebbione> yea i don't know what that iot is for
[07:58] <gebbione> i don't even know why they get installed if not generic
[07:58] <gebbione> i want generic
[07:58] <gebbione> but also i need to fix the dual monitor problem with this system
[07:58] <gebbione> Nvidia really sux
[08:06] <gebbione> Znevna, what was nice about it ? :)
[08:07] <Znevna> why did you keep them around for so long? :P
[08:08] <gebbione> well i have not removed anything
[08:09] <gebbione> i am only concerned with fixing the GPU problem and keeping older kernels is all i have to try and be able to boot back in
[08:09] <gebbione> right now i can only use 5.15 and variants of it
[08:10] <gebbione> not sure why the others appear but my problem now is that i cannot use my dual screen monitors and this is usually linked to the fact that i have a Nvidia RTX 2070 GPU
[09:32] <giorgi> hello
[09:32] <giorgi> snow
[09:32] <giorgi> ler it snow
[09:59] <gebbione> nuclei radio wifi shows as enabled but if i list available wifis i get an empty response
[10:02] <elias_a> alkisg: 50+ old kernels... must be a record... :O
[10:10] <gebbione> elias_a, ?
[10:11] <Znevna> just another user amazed by your collection of old kernels
[10:13] <queryguy> Hello. is it possible to activate and setup remote desktop on ubuntu 22.04 via cli(ssh)?
[10:14] <nb-ben> queryguy: there are multiple ways to do so, it also depends on what exactly you're after
[10:15] <nb-ben> queryguy: if you're looking for a remote login session then this isn't as straightforward with gdm
[10:16] <gebbione> Znevna, well not sure what suggests i have so many ... i just have 5.15 ones that don't work. the 4 ones in that output amaze me too given that they would have been autopurged
[10:16] <gebbione> anyhow it doesn't really make any difference if they are there or not
[10:24] <queryguy> nb-ben what is gdm?
[10:27] <nb-ben> I'm happy to answer, but google first.
[10:27] <EriC^^> queryguy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/304017/how-to-set-up-remote-desktop-sharing-through-ssh
[10:31] <heeen> I'm trying to build my kernel from apt sources and it fails because it finds debian/linux-libc-dev/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu already exists
[10:53] <Elliria> Hey there. Is there a replacement for this package? http://packages.ubuntu.com/python-gobject
[10:54] <Elliria> In other words, if your software depends on python-gobject, what package would it currently depend on?
[11:03] <gebbione> is there a more up to date version of this document? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:10] <tomreyn> !nvidia | gebbione
[11:12] <gebbione> thank you, i can see it is basically suggesting the same steps
[11:12] <gebbione> i will try to file a bug report
[11:12] <gebbione> ubuntu-bug xorg is running .... been for a while now
[11:15] <gebbione> whilst the system is unstable is there a way for me to use a live CD with permanent saving?
[11:16] <gebbione> i have an old live usb for 20.04 so i guess i need to update it to the latest
[11:16] <gebbione> but would it work?
[11:27] <bonazzi-francesc> dai alora: tira fora le tette
[11:38] <gebbione> does "ubuntu-bug xorg" work ? Its has been showing dots for almost 15 minutes now and not finished yet
[11:40] <gebbione> should i report a bug about ubuntu bug ? :)
[11:42]  * tMH is gone. nsf
[11:50] <Elliria> Hey there. Is there a current replacement for the http://packages.ubuntu.com/python-gobject package?
[12:47] <chron0> does anyone have any idea how to activate an esim/euicc on ubuntu=
[12:48] <chron0> (wwan/lte context)
[12:55] <jelly> I'm using fwupdmgr from snap on focal and recent versions apparently have an undeclared dependency on newer libc6 than what's in the distro but they also do not ship a glibc in the package.  So it's broken.
[12:55] <jelly> what's the right way to report bugs for snaps?
[12:59] <jelly> snap info fwupd -> contact:   https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd -> https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd/issues/5122
[12:59] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 5122 in fwupd/fwupd "latest snap fails to install on Ubuntu 20.04" [Open]
[13:00] <jelly> (it doesn't fail to install, it fails to run but the underlying issue is the same; apparently an "unconfined snap" will always use host system libc6 instead of the one in core22 which it builds against)
[13:12] <ogra> jelly, no, that is wrong, *if* an unconfined snap uses the hosts libc it is completly wrongly packaged (even classic (unconfined) snap need to use the libc from the base snap they did declare in their snapcraft.yaml) ...
[13:13] <gebbione> if anyone has any input feel free to contribute https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/black-screen-unstable-or-not-second-monitor-rtx2070-ubuntu/242669
[13:19] <jelly> ogra, okay, that sounds a lot more sane
[13:21] <ogra> jelly, there should be a deb in the normal archive though (might indeed be a bit behind the snap in versioning)
[13:22] <ogra> in fact this already discusses the correct solution: https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd/issues/5122#issuecomment-1277822533 ... but seems nobody implemented it correctly
[13:22] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 5122 in fwupd/fwupd "latest snap fails to install on Ubuntu 20.04" [Open]
[13:24] <jelly> I switched to snap because the distro one failed to work correctly with miy hardware at some point.  It _might_ have been still on bionic and I'll check out the focal distro version.
[13:39] <jelly> the distro version of fwupd (1.7.9-1~20.04.1) from focal says it's able to upgrade UEFI firmware on this Thinkpad X1C7.  Thanks, ogra
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:29] <IaCplease> How do I enable a service on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[14:30] <IaCplease> I don't see the chkconfig or systemctl commands. I'm guessing this uses upstart?
[14:31] <leftyfb> IaCplease: Ubuntu 14.04 is End of Life and no longer supported. Please upgrade before asking for support.
[14:32] <IaCplease> Upgrading isn't an option -- it's not my vm, and it's running something. I'll peruse the docs for upstart, then.
[14:36] <ogra> well, 14.04 is still commercially supported for one more year, you can buy commercial support for it for sure at canonical
[14:39] <heeen> dpkg-source: error: unrepresentable changes to source
[14:39] <heeen> dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -i.git -b . subprocess returned exit status 1
[14:39] <heeen> make[1]: *** [scripts/Makefile.package:77: deb-pkg] Error 1
[14:39] <heeen> man what is going on
[14:39] <heeen> shouldn't it be trivial to just build the kernel from ubuntu sources
[14:43] <ogra> heeen, if you follow the instructions it usually is
[14:43] <heeen> well dopes not seem to be
[14:43] <ogra> just git clone the ubuntu tree and folow the documented steps
[14:44] <heeen> the documented steps on the weiki using apt-source leads to failure because it finds debian/linux-libc-dev/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu already exists
[14:44] <heeen> *wiki
[14:45] <ogra> heeen, this ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[14:45] <ogra> not sure if anything changed in the process ... but that page should be maintained by the people in #ubuntu-kernel ... perhaps ask there
[14:47] <heeen> yeah
[14:47] <heeen> then I had to manually patch a file because some device reference was still in there and clean failed
[14:48] <IaCplease> Seems it was already enabled, and the runlevel that this service, qemu-guest-agent runs at is in the config file /etc/init.d/qemu-guest-agent.
[14:49] <IaCplease> [Also ansible's service module sadly doesn't work with upstart.]
[14:53] <IaCplease> Oh, but native upstart files put their stuff in /etc/init/*.conf files, and the syntax is pretty simple. "start on runlevel [2345]" does the trick for them.
[15:10] <Towser> I am trying to get voice chat to work in Singularity viewer and unfortunately it stays greyed out, I've tired installing some libraries and it didn't help
[15:13] <leftyfb> Towser: normally I would suggest you reach out to the 3rd party source for support, but it seems they do not provide support. You're kinda on your own there.
[15:13] <Towser> That's where I get stuck. I don't know what it requires or if it simply doesn't work
[15:14] <leftyfb> Towser: it also hasn't been updated in over 2 years. The last linux release was for an EOL release of Ubuntu
[15:15] <Towser> It does still run besides the voice chat issue
[15:15] <leftyfb> good luck
[17:11] <ketotonic> quit
[17:12] <leftyfb> never!
[17:38] <jhutchins> Do upstream kernels ever have an EOL?
[17:46] <hallthor> hello! I'm in the process of registering to ubuntu pro and when validating y email I have to have a checkbox checked called "Service authorization for Ubuntu.com"
[17:46] <hallthor> Unfortunately I can't find information what that means, but I would like to know
[17:47] <hallthor> Anyone who can explain for me?
[17:49] <jhutchins> Do we have an official source for Pro support?
[17:49] <leftyfb> pretty sure that's through Canonical
[17:49] <jhutchins> hallthor: I'm pretty sure there is one somewhere, that's the whole point of "Pro".
[17:49] <jhutchins> leftyfb: You sure it isn't RedHat?
[17:49] <Gallomimia> the canonical name for "Pro Support" is Canonical?
[17:50] <leftyfb> as in, not an Ubuntu community support product
[17:51] <hallthor> https://ubuntu.com/pro
[17:51] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/pro/tutorial
[17:51] <oerheks> easy peasy
[17:53] <leftyfb> oerheks: that explains pro and it's services and how to get it going. It does not give information on people needing support with it as a product
[17:56] <oerheks> after getting the token, that checkbox is available in software update settings?
[17:56] <oerheks> https://imgur.com/gallery/JrSO8zh
[18:00] <leftyfb> hm, I don't have that
[18:00] <leftyfb> I have a "livepatch" tab
[18:01] <oerheks> pro --version should give 27.13.3~22.04.1
[18:01] <leftyfb> yep
[18:03] <hallthor> this is my issue: https://imgur.com/a/kVmAp9n
[18:03] <hallthor> I have no idea what service authorization means and there is no explanation to be found
[18:03] <oerheks> click that checkbox, or use space when highlighted?
[18:04] <oerheks> just an extra step to avoid scriptkiddies..
[18:14] <hallthor> would be nice to get that kind of information somwhere...
[18:15] <oerheks> maybe you ar right, file a bugreport that such info is missing?
[18:17] <jhutchins> If not missing, not apparent/intuitive.
[18:17] <jhutchins> They can't fix it if they don't know it's broken.
[18:23] <hallthor> I'll look into that
[18:25] <ravage> i think i checked that box when i activated pro. but you can just try it without
[18:26] <oerheks> ravage, i remember i did that too
[18:55] <jhutchins> What, you're careful about checking unexplained authorization boxes?
[18:55] <jhutchins> Silly human!
[19:59] <Swahili> Q: Is "snap" down? Getting "received an unexpected http response code (503) when trying to download https://canonical-bos01.cdn.snapcraftcontent.com/download-origin/canonical-lgw01/*.snap"
[20:03] <Peter> Are there known issues with canonical-bos01.cdn.snapcraftcontent.com ? I'm getting a HTTP 504 Gateway timeout when trying to install a snap.
[20:06] <ravage> as you are already the second person asking it.. possible
[20:06] <ravage> nothing on https://status.canonical.com/ yet
[20:06] <SwedeMike> x/win 2
[20:06] <SwedeMike> oops
[20:06] <ravage> oh its on https://status.snapcraft.io/
[20:07] <ravage> so they are aware of it
[20:07] <Peter> The one time I have to use snap and it's broken :D
[20:09] <ravage> the beauty of a central download service
[20:09] <ravage> but the status page says its already fixed
[20:09] <Peter> seems to be back up
[20:10] <Peter> it was down for like 30 minutes
[20:30] <toxic0> Somehow my 22.04 VM is not loading NFS kernel module anymore. I reinstalled nfs-commons and still nothing. Would anyone have an idea
[20:30] <oerheks> nope, what does your logs say?
[20:31] <oerheks> as you can tell the nfs module is not loading..
[20:33] <toxic0> Which logs ? I just know I have a very similar VM that successfuly mounts NFS
[20:33] <toxic0> lsmod |grep NFS come up empty on the one not working
[20:33] <ravage> grep is case sensitive
[20:33] <ravage> so try nfs
[20:34] <toxic0> http://ix.io/4nXJ
[20:34] <toxic0> Sorry, autocorrect added caps
[20:34] <toxic0> But confirmed no NFS module
[20:34] <toxic0> modprobe nfs
[20:34] <toxic0> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nfs': Key was rejected by service
[20:35] <ravage> my guess is messed up secure boot
[20:37] <toxic0> Hmmm you might have something here. I did have to install firmware-secure something manually as it was being "kept back" by apt
[20:37] <toxic0> Any hints as how to reinstall/unmess it ?
[20:38] <ravage> undoing what you did is always a good first step
[20:38] <oerheks> firmware secure on a vm ..
[20:38] <oerheks> interesting
[20:38] <toxic0> I didn't do anything before it stopped working, probably unattended upgrade but logs are thin as to what it did
[20:39] <ravage> unattended upgrade does not install held back packages
[20:42] <toxic0> Yeah that I did
[20:44] <toxic0> Trying to fix
[21:13] <toxic0> Giving up, will just use last week's backup of the VM that was working fine
[22:47] <toxic0> I de seem to remember NFS is somehow impacted by secure boot but it still baffles me why...
[22:48] <toxic0> Updating proxmox right now in the hope it would fix my current issue with this Ubuntu VM refusing to mount NFS shares, not seeing any qemu update I strongly doubt it will...
[22:55] <atrigent> hello. why does the official install documentation suggest an 8-12gb flash drive if the image to put on it is less than 4gb?
[22:56] <Jeremy31> inflation
[22:56] <oerheks> atrigent, where do you get that wrong info?
[22:56] <oerheks> lolz
[22:57] <atrigent> what wrong info?
[22:57] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#2-requirements
[22:57] <oerheks> this is official, show us yours?
[22:57] <leftyfb> "A 4GB or larger USB stick/flash drive"
[22:57] <atrigent> yes, that one says 4gb, but the general installation instructions say 8-12gb
[22:57] <oerheks> what general instructions?
[22:57] <leftyfb> atrigent: please post the link
[22:58] <Jeremy31> The newer ISO's use some space on flash drive for install logs
[22:58] <oerheks> just the iso takes 4 gb, if you need persistence, it should be larger indeed
[22:58] <oerheks> new iso, install logs? that is new to me
[22:58] <atrigent> ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop
[22:58] <leftyfb> Jeremy31: first I'm hearing of this
[22:59] <Jeremy31> I just installed 22.10 on a partition and there is a writable partition on my flash drive with an install log
[22:59] <leftyfb> atrigent: that might be assuming the optional persistent live usb
[22:59] <oerheks> oh that is a weird statement, all iso' s fit 4 gb AFAIK
[23:01] <oerheks> atrigent, thank you for reporting
[23:01] <korin> ok?
[23:02] <korin> hi
[23:05] <korin> is somone online?
[23:31] <Linnak_> Hi, What do you use guys for sending files between Android device and Linux desktop? I tried a couple of softwares (Warpinator, KDE Connect) without success even with open ports in Firewall I couldn't send a file.
[23:31] <Linnak_> I used Sendanywhere befor but crashed many times, so I deleted.
[23:33] <oerheks> on ubuntu/gnome filemanager works perfectly
[23:34] <oerheks> unlock your android before connecting, and it should give a dialog for permission
[23:34] <Jeremy31> USB cable or bluetooth
[23:35] <oerheks> oh yeah, do not mention you try on BT
[23:41] <Linnak_> Bloetooth didn't work. Connection error