=== chris14_ is now known as chris14 === ajfriesen0 is now known as ajfriesen [01:16] what yall nerds up to? [01:18] byte4byte: please stop. [01:43] Hi guys. I can't figure out how to get rid of this repository request: The repository 'https://packagecloud.io/ookla/speedtest-cli/ubuntu kinetic Release' does not have a Release file. Any help please? [01:44] magus: grep -r ookla /etc/apt -- hopefully that'll find the file, you can edit that and remove the lines [01:46] sarnold: Thank you I'l check. === docmax is now known as Guest1013 === docmax_ is now known as docmax [02:02] Sarnold: It worked. Thanks a lot! [02:03] magus: yay :) [02:05] I'd like to disable the "joined/left channel" lines to clear my chat. How can I do that please? [02:06] magus: depends on the client you're using [02:06] how do you ops do it? [02:06] wasting lives in shitty little irc channels [02:06] magus: What IRC client are you using ? [02:07] Konversation [02:08] magus: https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/konversation/konversation/index.html [02:09] Got it, thank you! === kgiii_ is now known as KGIII [02:45] hi everybody, noob here. I installed Ubuntu 22.04.1 lts and i kept windows for dual boot [02:45] Once installed some components do not work [02:45] Main issue is the audio [02:45] I already tried various suggestion but, since now, nothing worked. Here detailed info https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2483997 === chris14_ is now known as chris14 [02:51] is the right area for questions? [02:51] yeah [02:52] thx [02:52] i've been lucky, my sound stuff just always kinda worked, so I never had to fight it [02:52] running pavucontrol and clicking around will usualy sort things out [02:52] but given the info you provided it sort of feels like you knew that already, and are beyond that point :) [02:52] i tried but nothing [02:53] :( [02:53] thx for the empathy :) [02:54] :) [02:59] well, i bought a supercheap laptop maybe i deserve this 8) [03:00] once upon a time linux really excelled on that sort of thing :) I suspect it's not as solid as it once was [03:02] yep, in the past i never had issues, always worked like charm [03:03] but i guess that main problem is my crappy hardware [03:07] prova: What kind of an el cheapo laptop have you got there? [03:09] MEDIACOM M-SB151 [03:12] Quite peculiar and unknown to me. :P [03:13] Have not even heard the name of the brand before. :) [03:13] '=D [03:14] prova: Do you know which market area the laptop has been designed to? [03:14] Looks like EU/Italy [03:15] yes, eu italy [03:16] Reason for asking: in Africa they sell computers that include other chipsets than in the specs. The OEM takes care of the problem with windows drivers - all others may shiver in pain... [03:16] this is the website https://www.mediacomeurope.it/pc-e-notebook/172/smartbook-one [03:17] But if it is sold in Italy I guess this is far fetched.... [03:17] prova: Looks fancy! [03:17] on the appearence :D [03:19] prova: May the force be with you. Looks like a usable tool if you get things working properly. [03:20] yeah, main reason to buy it was the price. i wanted a basic laptop for basic tasks [03:24] in this days i tried things that a noob shouldn't dare :] [03:27] tried different flavours, tried different kernels (on jellyfish), tried various solutions found on web but nada [03:36] now i have to leave the chat. if someone have something to suggest, here is a 3d on ubuntuforums. thx to everybody :] https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2483997 [03:37] byez === sig is now known as bebop [04:12] hii [04:12] good moring === five61843 is now known as five6184 === greg is now known as Gruffpuppy === dn___ is now known as dmn === MinuisSeven is now known as MinusSeven === JanC_ is now known as JanC === MrGeneral_ is now known as MrGeneral [09:48] Hi, Is there a default MIDI wavetable / soundbank in ubuntu? I have some video games sending midi on port 0 but I am not sure where to go from here. === stirl_ is now known as stirl [10:56] how to make the sudo su root shell colorful as normal user? [12:04] hello, i can ask some poor soul here for help installing nvidia drivers on my ubuntu ? [12:08] only poor soulds have nvidia cards [12:08] .. im poor [12:09] nvidia quadro fx 370 [12:09] from war [12:09] https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/tesla-installation-notes/index.html [12:09] tesla ? hmm hear something about it on nvidia cards,, *read* [12:09] if the card is so old you might want to try the nouveau driver [12:09] i got that already but,, box breaks into little pieces every 2 days [12:09] drivers all messed up [12:10] (nouveau) [12:10] that's nvidia indeed :) [12:11] ubuntu discontinued theyr support for the oldest cards a few years ago [12:11] only slap in nouveau (general) driver instead [12:11] card shows up on lspci ,, but not in ubuntu's software ,, \ hardware update thing [12:12] i think you could get a newer card for like 50 cents? [12:13] but ok, that doesn't solve current problem [12:13] :) [12:13] sounds true [12:15] .. got "forced" into doing some updates here but [12:15] what makes a card,, stop showing up under ubuntu-drivers ? [12:15] or better,, how i get my card to show up ,, under ubuntu-drivers ,, command in console ? [12:15] .. installing drivers ? [12:17] tried and failed miserably several instructions. ending up with me having to boot from usb live stick and patching some file in /etc/init.d?/someblacklistofdrivers or reinstalling ubuntu again [12:18] it's nouveau or nvidia proprietary [12:18] ? [12:19] those are the options [12:19] noveau is just,, same as windows "generic" drivers arent they ? [12:19] yea [12:19] whatever ubuntu-drivers would say [12:19] i want nvidia [12:19] not nvoeu frenchy thing [12:19] then you get nvidia driver [12:19] got drivers downloaded from nvidias site,, tried 3-4 of them,, 3-4 times i reinstalled now [12:20] old ubuntu had support for card so it still showed up under "additional drivers" in Software & Updates window [12:20] guess im right about only one in world left with this card [12:21] https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/drivers/results/112998/ [12:21] thats one of the last versions that supported this card yes [12:23] quite sure i tried this one too but, maybe not that one exactly [12:24] download link weird .. wget works,, not firefox.. [12:24] u tried installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 22.04 ? [12:24] this year ? [12:27] same result as always, binary.run file from nvidia says i got nuevo drivers running and need them disabled, it can do it for me and wishes me good luck with warning. [12:28] i always end up having to use live usb stick and editing modprobe blacklist file back to not blacklisting noevou thing so system will boot [12:28] i even been logging out of "x" before running menu with ,, "telinit 3" shutting down all window system [12:29] still no luck [12:29] no idea ? === kovital is now known as Moriarto [12:57] hello, I have a question, (or I think it's a problem), how can I do a "full upgrade" in non interactive mode ? because I block with the package : "grub-efi-amd64-signed" and "shim-signed", and my script block with this command: "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive sudo apt-get -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" full-upgrade" [13:01] so, I would like to know, how can I auto-validate that with a script [13:02] how can I auto-select the first choice in this "ncurse" screen === dn___ is now known as dmn [13:40] Hi all [13:51] Sometimes, my ubuntu 20.04 with Gnome 3.36.8 system loses its connection to my local wifi access point, and doesn't reconnect. I have to manually go into Settings > Wifi and click the access point. Then, it connects without asking for the password again. Is there any way to get it to reconnect without any intervention? === dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 [13:58] I have an Intel machine with both `intel-microcode` and `amd64-microcode` installed (20.04), and even though `/boot/initrd` has the AMD firmware in it, dmesg shows that it loaded the correct Intel firmware. How is this possible? === polymorp- is now known as polymorphic [14:56] greetings, what is the latest release og 22.04 server? [14:56] s/og/of [14:57] iomari891: https://releases.ubuntu.com/22.04/ [14:57] I have stopped editing a file in nano using CRTL+Z, how do I resume that process? [14:58] BinarySavior: fg [14:58] fg nano [14:58] thanks [14:59] pretty sure nano doesn't recognize CTRL+Z, it requires CTRL+T+Z [15:00] and "fg nano" isn't necessary. [15:00] only "fg" is needed [15:01] thanks [15:02] $2 is the job id which you can get from running "jobs" [15:03] sorry, $1, not $2 [15:03] okay, I fixed my problem by adding command like this: shell: echo "set grub-efi/install_devices /dev/sda1" | sudo debconf-communicate [17:15] My prof makes annotations on okular on his lecture notes but can't save and share those annotations, what can be the solution to this on ubuntu ? [17:15] Would be great if the solution came with an integrated notepad. [17:15] He used wacom to annotate [17:16] stolen: your issue is very application specific. You might try reaching out to the Okular project for support with their application [17:17] I won't be having trouble convincing him to use other softwares if they match my requirements === MuliganGB is now known as Muligan [17:35] hello, i have awfull screen tearing with Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS x86_64. I'm keeping 5.15.0-30-generic simply becase it's the last version without tearing. It's for many months like that. I was hoping that the problem will be solved after some time but it won't [17:37] it's 5.15.0-60-generic already and no changes [17:37] szqrew: you got intel graphics and is it screen tearing or flickering? [17:38] what's the difference? [17:38] its' both [17:39] szqrew: the bug im refering to, would start flickering a few seconds after booting on the desktop [17:39] are you refering a bug? [17:40] szqrew: if you confirm if its tearing or flickering i will [17:43] i'm not sure if it's flickering or tearing or both at the same time [17:45] it this flickering or tearing? its like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZIR4qnfOH8 [17:46] szqrew: try adding this kernel parameter to your grub, i915.enable_dc=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=2 [17:52] that 'i915.enable_dc=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=2' has helped. What the heck is it? [17:53] and why it worked before without it? [17:53] gklwtw: if it fixed, you're affected by bug #1958191 [17:53] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1958191 in linux-hwe-5.19 (Ubuntu) "[i915] Screen flickering in Ubuntu 22.04 (until i915.enable_dc=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=2 are added) (fixed in 5.17.7 and later)" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1958191 [17:55] gklwtw: another route you can take on 22.04 now, is install HWE, aka kernel 5.19 where its fixed [17:56] why isn't it fixed in 5.15 kernels then? [17:57] because as I said it was working in 5.15.0-30-generic and then it was broken. In LTS it was broken [17:58] gklwtw: probably needs bisecting the right kernel version number to find the faulty part [18:26] is it a problem if both tun0 and eth0 have the same ip? I noticed this on a specific VM on 22.04 [18:32] bancroft: yes, that is a problem [18:33] leftyfb: how can I tell one of them to pick something else? it stays the same after rebooting [19:26] any zfs gurus able to assist me with a degraded mirror [19:26] i was running a scrub on my pool when i found out the pool was degraded because of a fault [19:26] under /dev/disk/by-uuid i only see symlinks to 1 of the 2 drives in the mirror [19:27] zpool status shows the faulted disk with a name of 74987498416165168 FAULTED 0 0 0 was /dev/disk/by-uuid/1067095399849498 [19:27] i'm looking for any advice on how to proceed? oh also lsblk shows both sdb and sdc (the 2 disks in the mirror) [19:31] billybigrigger: sounds like you need to replace the disk [19:32] billybigrigger: ravage uses zfs, he might know what to do next. [19:32] RaGE_Syria: ^ [19:32] Er... [19:32] billybigrigger: ah nvm, I didn't read what you wrote properly [19:32] ravage: ^ [19:32] RaGE_Syria: Sorry, mispinged. [19:33] billybigrigger: can you see the partition in /dev ? [19:33] i'll check [19:33] billybigrigger: devices aren't in by-uuid, only partitions [19:33] i rebooted the vm to see if it corrected itself [19:34] lsblk shows it, so it SHOULD be in /dev :D [19:34] billybigrigger: check dmesg, there might be block IO errors or something [19:35] both disks show in /dev [19:36] the pool is DEGRADED because, One or more devices could not be used because the lable is missing or invalid. Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue function in a degraded state. [19:36] billybigrigger: can you see the partitions? e.g. /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 [19:36] there are no partitions in a ZFS pool [19:36] this is a 2 disk ZFS mirror [19:36] you only get the block devices [19:36] billybigrigger: Does this help? https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E36784_01/html/E36835/gbbvf.html [19:37] There are instructions for replacing a disk in there. [19:37] billybigrigger: is the drive still connected? [19:37] billybigrigger: usually when you create the pool, even if you referenced a device rather than a partition, zfs will partition the device [19:37] Also this may help replace a drive when a label is missing: https://askubuntu.com/questions/305830/replacing-a-dead-disk-in-a-zpool [19:37] billybigrigger: if you referenced by-uuid, you must have referenced a partition [19:38] i never referenced a partition though [19:38] billybigrigger: check if you can see sdb1 but not sdc1 or vice versa in /dev [19:38] this pool was created in FreeBSD and imported [19:38] ic [19:38] but it's been imported to ZFS on Linux for a year working fine [19:38] arraybolt3 i'll read your links, thanks [19:40] so i think this happened after a power outage and somehow the disks lost their label SDx, i think this is the root of it [19:40] i think i do remember exporting, and re-importing with UUID, but now it doesn't like it, this was a couple weeks ago [19:41] are the linux smartctl flags all the same? smartctl -a /dev/sdc should do an online short test? [19:47] billybigrigger: I'd read the smartctl manpage to be sure. [19:47] BSD and Linux are similar in many ways but quite different in others. [19:56] arraybolt3 i can't seem to run smart on this disk as it's a raw disk vdi through virtualbox [19:57] if it safe i might just export the zfs pool and put them back in my esxi host where they came from and migrate the vm back over to it [19:58] i've never exported a degraded pool though, does anyone have any suggestions/input on that topic lol? [19:59] smartctl -a does report Logical Unit ID: error: bad structure [19:59] so i still think the disk and data is fine, just the label is goobered somehow [19:59] still not sure how to proceed on this one [20:02] billybigrigger: maybe try zpool import -d /dev/disk/by-id/ or similar? I've never really understood the uuids things === lagash_ is now known as lagash [20:25] Is there a way to force NetworkManager to stay connected even if there is no Internet? [20:26] I am running inside of a VM and I only want to connect to the Host-Only network adapter, but networkManager keeps disconnecting from the interface, reporting "no access to internet" [20:27] gnac, if you give your nic a hw address it will be "connected" [20:27] that is no dhcp [20:27] but it will probably also have no other hosts to talk to [20:28] BarnabasDK: you mean assign it a MAC address? or manually configure the ip address? [20:28] so a request will die with a timout [20:28] There is a dhcp server on the host-only network that should assign an ip. [20:28] yeah assign it a static ip in place of the dhcp one [20:28] the host does have an ip on the host-only network. [20:29] make room for it on your dhcp server [20:29] that is - outside the assignable pool [20:29] So NetworkManager can't be told to stay connected regardless of availability of the internet? It seems this is very shortsighted. [20:30] networkmanager is mostly for desktop pc use [20:30] imho [20:30] yeah, I'd like to just disable it, at least on that interface, but still enable dhcp on it. [20:31] I think you want to take your guide from how the ubuntu server does it [20:31] https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/network-configuration [20:31] the VM in question is a dev environment for something that will eventually be on an embedded device, so its nice to have the full desktop in the interim. [20:31] a good place to start [20:31] ok, thanks. [20:31] gnac: maybe systemd-networkd makes more sense? [20:31] sarnold, indeed [20:34] gnac, just note this is one of the places where the desktop and the server version of ubuntu differs a lot [20:36] sarnold i dont have /dev/disk/by-id in my system [20:36] 22.04 LTS [20:36] sarnold RE zpool import -d /dev/disk/by-id [20:38] maybe that's why my label is all fucked up [20:38] maybe i typod and imported by-label last time [20:38] ls -lah /dev/disk/by-label shows reds -> ../../sdb [20:39] but the "reds" pool is a 2 disk mirror [20:39] so where is sdc? :P [20:40] billybigrigger: check dmesg? maybe it has messages about your drive [20:45] i was sent here by someone on the ubuntu channel on freenode [20:45] anyone around? [20:46] Guest67, ask your question,please [20:46] sarnold 0.00000 in dmesg is the start of the current boot correct? i can't view back? [20:46] i have the pool exported [20:46] so i can't see anything in the current running os [20:47] well i'm sat here on a fresh install of 22.04 and i'm having issues with my graphics card, the graphics card is a gtx 650 [20:47] oh i see old logs in /var/log let me investigate [20:48] the nouveau driver is giving me a resolution of 600x800 [20:48] i've tried installing the proprietary driver and it can't even get the system to boot with that [20:48] Guest67, paste your specs: lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999 [20:49] https://termbin.com/jiucb [20:50] billybigrigger: if you want to go through previous dmesg logs, you can use journalctl -b-1 to see the previous boot, journalctl -b-2 to see two boots ago, etc [20:50] sarnold anything specific in dmesg i should be grepping for? [20:50] this is my first time having any real issue with the default driver [20:50] zfs, reds, sdb and sdc show nothing [20:50] though for the last several years i've only used laptops [20:50] sarnold https://imgur.com/l22FXrt [20:50] Guest67, you have no module in USE: run: 'dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nctermbin.com 9999' [20:51] sarnold https://imgur.com/a/l22FXrt [20:51] ignore the first link [20:51] sure [20:51] sorry [20:51] Guest67, 'dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999' [20:52] billybigrigger: there's a lot of block device failure messages that won't include such a friendly name -- it's way better to read through dmesg completely by eye and look for things that way [20:52] k [20:52] i'm not getting any output from that [20:53] sarnold is there a service that deals with block devices? like on freebsd, the camcontrol service would spit errors about anything scsi/sata related [20:53] sarnold nothing i can easily grep for eh? [20:53] Guest67, please, again run : 'dpkg -l | grep nvidia' [20:54] no output. as i said i'm not running the proprietary drivers atm [20:54] billybigrigger: heh, no, I'm more of a "I'll know the block errors when I see them" sort of thing [20:54] Guest67, ok: cat /proc/cmdline [20:55] BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.19.0-32-generic root=UUID=3ce79a58-a3c2-46fa-b7d5-7eccc093edad ro recovery nomodeset dis_ucode_ldr [20:55] Guest67, you're using nomodeset: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999 [20:56] https://termbin.com/ev85 [20:56] i believe that also means i'm in recovery mode. i can't seem to get the system to boot without first going into recovery mode [20:56] Guest67, sy, i mean, you booted in recovery mode; can't you bott normally ? [20:56] yes [20:56] it hangs [20:57] fuck [20:57] importing the pool one disk is resilvering [20:58] dunno why it's resilvering, it had the data on it already [20:58] it now shows the correct label of sdc though, not 38468468198468974 [20:58] it now shows the correct label of sdc though, not 38468468198468974 [20:58] oops [20:59] Guest67, your card is supported by nouveau; maybe you're set with Wayalnd [20:59] do you happen to know how to disable wayland during install? [20:59] or from recovery mode [21:00] is tar or tar.bz2 easier to unpack on ububtu ? [21:00] wayland is still a complete mystery to me [21:00] sarnold....ummm it only resilvered 16G [21:00] Guest67, dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | nc termbin.com 9999 [21:00] https://termbin.com/4x4h [21:01] any ZFS gurus around? i imported a degraded pool, and it proceeded to to resilver the degraded disk, but only 16G.... scan: resilvered 16.2G in 00:02:34 with 0 errors on Wed Feb 15 17:00:11 2023 [21:02] the pool of 2x 4TB drives is 60% full.....how come it only resilvered 16GB? i though resilvering a mirror would do the whole disk? [21:03] Guest67, whene and where does it hangs exactly ? [21:03] i get an error saying mtd device must be supplied device name is empty [21:04] billybigrigger: no, zfs only scans the *data* on the disks, not the empty spaces [21:04] i'd send the exact error to you but i have no way to [21:05] no cursor no nothing, just hangs on that screen [21:06] Guest67, let's try an update: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [21:06] alright [21:06] wow that's a lot of updates [21:06] does ubuntu not update during install anymore? it's been a long while [21:07] Guest67, please, install all the requirements [21:08] it's installing as we speak [21:08] ok [21:08] should i go ahead and reboot after the updates are installed? [21:09] Guest67, yes [21:10] alright, just in case my computer bursts into flames before i make it back online, thanks for all your help ioria [21:10] Guest67, no prob :þ [21:10] hi :) in Jammy, my SSH login via authorized_keys is denied. where do I see the SSH server's error details? I have a hunch it might be about permissions of the authorized_keys file, albeit they look good. [21:13] on the SSH client I get "debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply", "debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password" that does mean my key is denied right? [21:14] nevermind, auth.log confirms it. [21:16] Van itt valaki? [21:16] so again it hangs during bootup but without any sort of an error message, just green pixelated streaks across the black screen [21:16] i rebooted and booted with nomodeset [21:17] again low resolution of course [21:17] Guest67, try to disable wayland : sudo nano /etc/gdm3/custom.conf [21:17] alright [21:18] Guest67, and uncommnet #WaylandEnable=false [21:18] guess i'll brb [21:24] well, guess I'll use password auth for the time being. [21:33] well disabling wayland didn't work [21:33] i even gave it a little longer to sit and work than before [21:33] went to took out the trash while it attempted to boot [21:34] Guest67, sy, i really need to go; keep asking or come back tomorrow [21:34] Sven_vB:Have you tried to recreate a key with ssh-keygen and ssh-add it, just to see? [21:34] anybody else want to help me tackle this? [21:35] sbine, you mean I should try another key? I could do that. [21:35] sbine, for now I just copied the authorized_keys file from a server where it works [21:36] i'm thinking this computer may just hate ubuntu [21:37] still I'd rather have a way to read SSH server's error messages than try at random. [21:39] Guest6713: try the commands at https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/VideoAcceleration.html with theh nouveau driver [21:39] "If your distribution isn't in the list, you can run the following commands to install the firmware:" [21:39] the ubuntu firmware file is really old. [21:40] ok thanks i'll give that a shot [21:40] im not sure which version is the latest your card supports [21:40] i would get that [21:42] https://www.nvidia.de/Download/driverResults.aspx/123709/en-us i think [21:44] 470 is the latest [21:45] ok [21:45] though when i installed it using the additional drivers software it failed to boot at all [21:45] i just selected it on the download page and it gave me this link [21:45] but even that driver is from 2017 and the nouveau firmware blob is from 2009 [21:46] https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/nouveau-firmware [21:46] wow 2009? [21:46] that's insane [21:46] yep [21:46] as i said. just VERY old [21:46] i wasn't aware of ubuntu's existence yet [21:46] if it even did exist yet [21:47] if it solves your problem make sure to mark yourself as affected for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nouveau-firmware/+bug/1441631 [21:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1441631 in nouveau-firmware (Ubuntu) "should update firmware because old 2009" [Wishlist, New] [21:47] wow === sig is now known as bebop [22:12] Can someone explain this bios partition that the installer is complaining about? [22:12] (Not existing) [22:13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS_boot_partition [22:13] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace#BIOS-Boot_or_EFI_partition_.28required_on_GPT_disks.29 [22:15] So do I actually need one on a legacy box? It has been running 16.o4 and didn't need one [22:16] Thus my confusion [22:16] if you want to use GTP then yes [22:16] GPT [22:16] Why would I want to use gpt? [22:17] Got by without it for like 25 yrs [22:17] because MBR is from 1983 and you may want to use the current standard [22:17] So just for the sake of currency? [22:18] you seem old enough to google the differences and advantages yourself [22:18] Seems pointless. [22:18] good luck [22:19] Thanks. [22:20] Fwiw, I've had 3 strokes.. picking up new ideas like this isn't easy these days. [22:20] Was just hoping for a quick concise answer [22:21] now that's odd. it seems my authorized_keys on jammy actually does work, when I connect from a xenial machine. it doesn't though from an ancient non-ubuntu. so I guess they cannot agree on some of the crypto algorithms? but then why will password auth work? [22:23] And what's really getting me, is that the new lts ran FINE on this box, with no gpt.. [22:24] But the / part was too small, only 10G, so I had to redo from start.. and now it's complaining. [22:25] legendre: The modern Ubuntu installer uses GPT partition tables everywhere by default. Why, I don't know. [22:25] legendre: For BIOS and GPT to work together, you need a small bios_boot partition at the start of the drive. [22:25] Thus why it gripes. [22:25] So where do I put the bios boot part? Part #1? [22:26] Yes. [22:26] Make it.. 1MB? [22:26] I think so. 8 MB might work too. [22:26] 5MB? [22:26] Ok, 8mb [22:26] legendre: At the start of the drive, 1 MB is needed [22:27] So it just stores 2nd phase of grub? [22:27] First phase in MBR? [22:28] legendre: I actually don't know what exactly it stored :P I just know GRUB uses it and needs it with GPT partition tables. [22:28] It allows extra space for Grub to install [22:29] Fair enough [22:29] Ok, good enough for now. Second question [22:31] Just me, or doesn't fdisk allow me to create an extended part w/ logical drives? [22:31] I don't see an option to create sda5 [22:31] legendre: I think fdisk should do that... [22:31] * arraybolt3 checks [22:31] So do I.. [22:32] I might have missed it.. [22:32] legendre: After running `n` for a new partition, you are given the option. [22:32] `p` for primary, `e` for extended. [22:33] Heh, let me look again.. I only saw primary and logical [22:43] So.. which fs on the bios boot part? Fat32? [22:44] legendre: Unformatted. [22:44] Oh, ok. [22:44] GRUB knows what it wants to do with the partition, no filesystem is needed there. [22:51] Still no option to create extended part. [22:51] Just Primary or Logical [22:52] Hell with it, I made 3 primary parts [22:52] It will work [22:53] This is with the gui part tool.. cfdisk? [22:53] As used by the installer. [22:54]