[01:16] <byte4byte> what yall nerds up to?
[01:18] <sarnold> byte4byte: please stop.
[01:43] <magus> Hi guys. I can't figure out how to get rid of this repository request: The repository 'https://packagecloud.io/ookla/speedtest-cli/ubuntu kinetic Release' does not have a Release file. Any help please?
[01:44] <sarnold> magus: grep -r ookla /etc/apt   -- hopefully that'll find the file, you can edit that and remove the lines
[01:46] <magus> sarnold: Thank you I'l check.
[02:02] <magus> Sarnold: It worked. Thanks a lot!
[02:03] <sarnold> magus: yay :)
[02:05] <magus> I'd like to disable the "joined/left channel" lines to clear my chat. How can I do that please?
[02:06] <leftyfb> magus: depends on the client you're using
[02:06] <byte4byte> how do you ops do it?
[02:06] <byte4byte> wasting lives in shitty little irc channels
[02:06] <Bashing-om> magus: What IRC client are you using ?
[02:07] <magus> Konversation
[02:08] <leftyfb> magus: https://docs.kde.org/trunk5/en/konversation/konversation/index.html
[02:09] <magus> Got it, thank you!
[02:45] <prova> hi everybody, noob here. I installed Ubuntu 22.04.1 lts and i kept windows for dual boot
[02:45] <prova> Once installed some components do not work
[02:45] <prova> Main issue is the audio
[02:45] <prova> I already tried various suggestion but, since now, nothing worked. Here detailed info  https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2483997
[02:51] <prova> is the right area for questions?
[02:51] <sarnold> yeah
[02:52] <prova> thx
[02:52] <sarnold> i've been lucky, my sound stuff just always kinda worked, so I never had to fight it
[02:52] <sarnold> running pavucontrol and clicking around will usualy sort things out
[02:52] <sarnold> but given the info you provided it sort of feels like you knew that already, and are beyond that point :)
[02:52] <prova> i tried but nothing
[02:53] <sarnold> :(
[02:53] <prova> thx for the empathy :)
[02:54] <sarnold> :)
[02:59] <prova> well, i bought a supercheap laptop maybe i deserve this 8)
[03:00] <sarnold> once upon a time linux really excelled on that sort of thing :) I suspect it's not as solid as it once was
[03:02] <prova> yep, in the past i never had issues, always worked like charm
[03:03] <prova> but i guess that main problem is my crappy hardware
[03:07] <elias_a_> prova: What kind of an el cheapo laptop have you got there?
[03:09] <prova> MEDIACOM M-SB151
[03:12] <elias_a_> Quite peculiar and unknown to me. :P
[03:13] <elias_a_> Have not even heard the name of the brand before. :)
[03:13] <prova> '=D
[03:14] <elias_a_> prova: Do you know which market area the laptop has been designed to?
[03:14] <leftyfb> Looks like EU/Italy
[03:15] <prova> yes, eu  italy
[03:16] <elias_a_> Reason for asking: in Africa they sell computers that include other chipsets than in the specs. The OEM takes care of the problem with windows drivers - all others may shiver in pain...
[03:16] <prova> this is the website https://www.mediacomeurope.it/pc-e-notebook/172/smartbook-one
[03:17] <elias_a_> But if it is sold in Italy I guess this is far fetched....
[03:17] <elias_a_> prova: Looks fancy!
[03:17] <prova> on the appearence :D
[03:19] <elias_a_> prova: May the force be with you. Looks like a usable tool if you get things working properly.
[03:20] <prova> yeah, main reason to buy it was the price. i wanted a basic laptop for basic tasks
[03:24] <prova> in this days i tried things that a noob shouldn't dare :]
[03:27] <prova> tried different flavours, tried different kernels (on jellyfish), tried various solutions found on web but nada
[03:36] <prova> now i have to leave the chat. if someone have something to suggest, here is a 3d on ubuntuforums. thx to everybody :]   https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2483997
[03:37] <prova> byez
[04:12] <akd3070> hii
[04:12] <akd3070> good moring
[09:48] <Guest65> Hi, Is there a default MIDI wavetable / soundbank in ubuntu? I have some video games sending midi on port 0 but I am not sure where to go from here.
[10:56] <xon> how to make the sudo su root shell colorful as normal user?
[12:04] <micknick> hello, i can ask some poor soul here for help installing nvidia drivers on my ubuntu ?
[12:08] <tuxick> only poor soulds have nvidia cards
[12:08] <micknick> .. im poor
[12:09] <micknick> nvidia quadro fx 370
[12:09] <micknick> from war
[12:09] <tuxick> https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/tesla-installation-notes/index.html
[12:09] <micknick> tesla ? hmm hear something about it on nvidia cards,, *read*
[12:09] <tuxick> if the card is so old you might want to try the nouveau driver
[12:09] <micknick> i got that already but,, box breaks into little pieces every 2 days
[12:09] <micknick> drivers all messed up
[12:10] <micknick> (nouveau)
[12:10] <tuxick> that's nvidia indeed :)
[12:11] <micknick> ubuntu discontinued theyr support for the oldest cards a few years ago
[12:11] <micknick> only slap in nouveau (general) driver instead
[12:11] <micknick> card shows up on lspci ,, but not in ubuntu's software ,, \ hardware update thing
[12:12] <tuxick> i think you could get a newer card for like 50 cents?
[12:13] <tuxick> but ok, that doesn't solve current problem
[12:13] <micknick> :)
[12:13] <micknick> sounds true
[12:15] <micknick> .. got "forced" into doing some updates here but
[12:15] <micknick> what makes a card,, stop showing up under ubuntu-drivers ?
[12:15] <micknick> or better,, how i get my card to show up ,, under ubuntu-drivers ,, command in console ?
[12:15] <micknick> .. installing drivers ?
[12:17] <micknick> tried and failed miserably several instructions. ending up with me having to boot from usb live stick and patching some file in /etc/init.d?/someblacklistofdrivers or reinstalling ubuntu again
[12:18] <tuxick> it's nouveau or nvidia proprietary
[12:18] <micknick> ?
[12:19] <tuxick> those are the options
[12:19] <micknick> noveau is just,, same as windows "generic" drivers arent they ?
[12:19] <micknick> yea
[12:19] <tuxick> whatever ubuntu-drivers would say
[12:19] <micknick> i want nvidia
[12:19] <micknick> not nvoeu frenchy thing
[12:19] <tuxick> then you get nvidia driver
[12:19] <micknick> got drivers downloaded from nvidias site,, tried 3-4 of them,, 3-4 times i reinstalled now
[12:20] <micknick> old ubuntu had support for card so it still showed up under "additional drivers" in Software & Updates window
[12:20] <micknick> guess im right about only one in world left with this card
[12:21] <tuxick> https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/drivers/results/112998/
[12:21] <micknick> thats one of the last versions that supported this card yes
[12:23] <micknick> quite sure i tried this one too but, maybe not that one exactly
[12:24] <micknick> download link weird .. wget works,, not firefox..
[12:24] <micknick> u tried installing nvidia drivers on ubuntu 22.04 ?
[12:24] <micknick> this year ?
[12:27] <micknick> same result as always, binary.run file from nvidia says i got nuevo drivers running and need them disabled, it can do it for me and wishes me good luck with warning.
[12:28] <micknick> i always end up having to use live usb stick and editing modprobe blacklist file back to not blacklisting noevou thing so system will boot
[12:28] <micknick> i even been logging out of "x" before running menu with ,, "telinit 3" shutting down all window system
[12:29] <micknick> still no luck
[12:29] <micknick> no idea ?
[12:57] <jedorf_2> hello, I have a question, (or I think it's a problem), how can I do a "full upgrade" in non interactive mode ? because I block with the package : "grub-efi-amd64-signed" and "shim-signed", and my script block with this command: "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive sudo apt-get -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" full-upgrade"
[13:01] <jedorf_2> so, I would like to know, how can I auto-validate that with a script
[13:02] <jedorf_2> how can I auto-select the first choice in this "ncurse" screen
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:51] <clarkk> Sometimes, my ubuntu 20.04 with Gnome 3.36.8 system loses its connection to my local wifi access point, and doesn't reconnect. I have to manually go into Settings > Wifi and click the access point. Then, it connects without asking for the password again. Is there any way to get it to reconnect without any intervention?
[13:58] <processwatch> I have an Intel machine with both `intel-microcode` and `amd64-microcode` installed (20.04), and even though `/boot/initrd` has the AMD firmware in it, dmesg shows that it loaded the correct Intel firmware. How is this possible?
[14:56] <iomari891> greetings, what is the latest release og 22.04 server?
[14:56] <iomari891> s/og/of
[14:57] <leftyfb> iomari891: https://releases.ubuntu.com/22.04/
[14:57] <BinarySavior> I have stopped editing a file in nano using CRTL+Z, how do I resume that process?
[14:58] <leftyfb> BinarySavior: fg
[14:58] <WaV> fg nano
[14:58] <BinarySavior> thanks
[14:59] <leftyfb> pretty sure nano doesn't recognize CTRL+Z, it requires CTRL+T+Z
[15:00] <leftyfb> and "fg nano" isn't necessary.
[15:00] <leftyfb> only "fg" is needed
[15:01] <iomari891> thanks
[15:02] <leftyfb> $2 is the job id which you can get from running "jobs"
[15:03] <leftyfb> sorry, $1, not $2
[15:03] <jedorf> okay, I fixed my problem by adding command like this: shell: echo "set grub-efi/install_devices /dev/sda1" | sudo debconf-communicate
[17:15] <stolen> My prof makes annotations on okular on his lecture notes but can't save and share those annotations, what can be the solution to this on ubuntu ?
[17:15] <stolen> Would be great if the solution came with an integrated notepad.
[17:15] <stolen> He used wacom to annotate
[17:16] <leftyfb> stolen: your issue is very application specific. You might try reaching out to the Okular project for support with their application
[17:17] <stolen> I won't be having trouble convincing him to use other softwares if they match my requirements
[17:35] <szqrew> hello, i have awfull screen tearing with Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS x86_64. I'm keeping 5.15.0-30-generic simply becase it's the last version without tearing. It's for many months like that. I was hoping that the problem will be solved after some time but it won't
[17:37] <szqrew> it's 5.15.0-60-generic already and no changes
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> szqrew: you got intel graphics and is it screen tearing or flickering?
[17:38] <szqrew> what's the difference?
[17:38] <szqrew> its' both
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> szqrew: the bug im refering to, would start flickering a few seconds after booting on the desktop
[17:39] <szqrew> are you refering a bug?
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> szqrew: if you confirm if its tearing or flickering i will
[17:43] <szqrew> i'm not sure if it's flickering or tearing or both at the same time
[17:45] <szqrew> it this flickering or tearing? its like that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZIR4qnfOH8
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> szqrew: try adding this kernel parameter to your grub, i915.enable_dc=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=2
[17:52] <gklwtw> that 'i915.enable_dc=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=2' has helped. What the heck is it?
[17:53] <gklwtw> and why it worked before without it?
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> gklwtw: if it fixed, you're affected by bug #1958191
[17:53] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1958191 in linux-hwe-5.19 (Ubuntu) "[i915] Screen flickering in Ubuntu 22.04 (until i915.enable_dc=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=2 are added) (fixed in 5.17.7 and later)" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1958191
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> gklwtw: another route you can take on 22.04 now, is install HWE, aka kernel 5.19 where its fixed
[17:56] <gklwtw> why isn't it fixed in 5.15 kernels then?
[17:57] <gklwtw> because as I said it was working in 5.15.0-30-generic and then it was broken. In LTS it was broken
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> gklwtw: probably needs bisecting the right kernel version number to find the faulty part
[18:26] <bancroft> is it a problem if both tun0 and eth0 have the same ip? I noticed this on a specific VM on 22.04
[18:32] <leftyfb> bancroft: yes, that is a problem
[18:33] <bancroft> leftyfb: how can I tell one of them to pick something else? it stays the same after rebooting
[19:26] <billybigrigger> any zfs gurus able to assist me with a degraded mirror
[19:26] <billybigrigger> i was running a scrub on my pool when i found out the pool was degraded because of a fault
[19:26] <billybigrigger> under /dev/disk/by-uuid i only see symlinks to 1 of the 2 drives in the mirror
[19:27] <billybigrigger> zpool status shows the faulted disk with a name of 74987498416165168 FAULTED 0 0 0 was /dev/disk/by-uuid/1067095399849498
[19:27] <billybigrigger> i'm looking for any advice on how to proceed? oh also lsblk shows both sdb and sdc (the 2 disks in the mirror)
[19:31] <nb-ben> billybigrigger: sounds like you need to replace the disk
[19:32] <arraybolt3> billybigrigger: ravage uses zfs, he might know what to do next.
[19:32] <arraybolt3> RaGE_Syria: ^
[19:32] <arraybolt3> Er...
[19:32] <nb-ben> billybigrigger: ah nvm, I didn't read what you wrote properly
[19:32] <arraybolt3> ravage: ^
[19:32] <arraybolt3> RaGE_Syria: Sorry, mispinged.
[19:33] <nb-ben> billybigrigger: can you see the partition in /dev ?
[19:33] <billybigrigger> i'll check
[19:33] <nb-ben> billybigrigger: devices aren't in by-uuid, only partitions
[19:33] <billybigrigger> i rebooted the vm to see if it corrected itself
[19:34] <billybigrigger> lsblk shows it, so it SHOULD be in /dev :D
[19:34] <sarnold> billybigrigger: check dmesg, there might be block IO errors or something
[19:35] <billybigrigger> both disks show in /dev
[19:36] <billybigrigger> the pool is DEGRADED because, One or more devices could not be used because the lable is missing or invalid.  Sufficient replicas exist for the pool to continue function in a degraded state.
[19:36] <nb-ben> billybigrigger: can you see the partitions? e.g. /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1
[19:36] <billybigrigger> there are no partitions in a ZFS pool
[19:36] <billybigrigger> this is a 2 disk ZFS mirror
[19:36] <billybigrigger> you only get the block devices
[19:36] <arraybolt3> billybigrigger: Does this help? https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E36784_01/html/E36835/gbbvf.html
[19:37] <arraybolt3> There are instructions for replacing a disk in there.
[19:37] <mybalzitch> billybigrigger: is the drive still connected?
[19:37] <nb-ben> billybigrigger: usually when you create the pool, even if you referenced a device rather than a partition, zfs will partition the device
[19:37] <arraybolt3> Also this may help replace a drive when a label is missing: https://askubuntu.com/questions/305830/replacing-a-dead-disk-in-a-zpool
[19:37] <nb-ben> billybigrigger: if you referenced by-uuid, you must have referenced a partition
[19:38] <billybigrigger> i never referenced a partition though
[19:38] <nb-ben> billybigrigger: check if you can see sdb1 but not sdc1 or vice versa in /dev
[19:38] <billybigrigger> this pool was created in FreeBSD and imported
[19:38] <nb-ben> ic
[19:38] <billybigrigger> but it's been imported to ZFS on Linux for a year working fine
[19:38] <billybigrigger> arraybolt3 i'll read your links, thanks
[19:40] <billybigrigger> so i think this happened after a power outage and somehow the disks lost their label SDx, i think this is the root of it
[19:40] <billybigrigger> i think i do remember exporting, and re-importing with UUID, but now it doesn't like it, this was a couple weeks ago
[19:41] <billybigrigger> are the linux smartctl flags all the same? smartctl -a /dev/sdc should do an online short test?
[19:47] <arraybolt3> billybigrigger: I'd read the smartctl manpage to be sure.
[19:47] <arraybolt3> BSD and Linux are similar in many ways but quite different in others.
[19:56] <billybigrigger> arraybolt3 i can't seem to run smart on this disk as it's a raw disk vdi through virtualbox
[19:57] <billybigrigger> if it safe i might just export the zfs pool and put them back in my esxi host where they came from and migrate the vm back over to it
[19:58] <billybigrigger> i've never exported a degraded pool though, does anyone have any suggestions/input on that topic lol?
[19:59] <billybigrigger> smartctl -a does report Logical Unit ID: error: bad structure
[19:59] <billybigrigger> so i still think the disk and data is fine, just the label is goobered somehow
[19:59] <billybigrigger> still not sure how to proceed on this one
[20:02] <sarnold> billybigrigger: maybe try zpool import -d /dev/disk/by-id/ or similar? I've never really understood the uuids things
[20:25] <gnac> Is there a way to force NetworkManager to stay connected even if there is no Internet?
[20:26] <gnac> I am running inside of a VM and I only want to connect to the Host-Only network adapter, but networkManager keeps disconnecting from the interface, reporting "no access to internet"
[20:27] <BarnabasDK> gnac, if you give your nic a hw address it will be "connected"
[20:27] <BarnabasDK> that is no dhcp
[20:27] <BarnabasDK> but it will probably also have no other hosts to talk to
[20:28] <gnac> BarnabasDK: you mean assign it a MAC address? or manually configure the ip address?
[20:28] <BarnabasDK> so a request will die with a timout
[20:28] <gnac> There is a dhcp server on the host-only network that should assign an ip.
[20:28] <BarnabasDK> yeah assign it a static ip in place of the dhcp one
[20:28] <gnac> the host does have an ip on the host-only network.
[20:29] <BarnabasDK> make room for it on your dhcp server
[20:29] <BarnabasDK> that is - outside the assignable pool
[20:29] <gnac> So NetworkManager can't be told to stay connected regardless of availability of the internet? It seems this is very shortsighted.
[20:30] <BarnabasDK> networkmanager is mostly for desktop pc use
[20:30] <BarnabasDK> imho
[20:30] <gnac> yeah, I'd like to just disable it, at least on that interface, but still enable dhcp on it.
[20:31] <BarnabasDK> I think you want to take your guide from how the ubuntu server does it
[20:31] <BarnabasDK> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/network-configuration
[20:31] <gnac> the VM in question is a dev environment for something that will eventually be on an embedded device, so its nice to have the full desktop in the interim.
[20:31] <BarnabasDK> a good place to start
[20:31] <gnac> ok, thanks.
[20:31] <sarnold> gnac: maybe systemd-networkd makes more sense?
[20:31] <BarnabasDK> sarnold, indeed
[20:34] <BarnabasDK> gnac, just note this is one of the places where the desktop and the server version of ubuntu differs a lot
[20:36] <billybigrigger> sarnold i dont have /dev/disk/by-id in my system
[20:36] <billybigrigger> 22.04 LTS
[20:36] <billybigrigger> sarnold RE zpool import -d /dev/disk/by-id
[20:38] <billybigrigger> maybe that's why my label is all fucked up
[20:38] <billybigrigger> maybe i typod and imported by-label last time
[20:38] <billybigrigger> ls -lah /dev/disk/by-label shows reds -> ../../sdb
[20:39] <billybigrigger> but the "reds" pool is a 2 disk mirror
[20:39] <billybigrigger> so where is sdc? :P
[20:40] <sarnold> billybigrigger: check dmesg? maybe it has messages about your drive
[20:45] <Guest67> i was sent here by someone on the ubuntu channel on freenode
[20:45] <Guest67> anyone around?
[20:46] <ioria> Guest67, ask your question,please
[20:46] <billybigrigger> sarnold 0.00000 in dmesg is the start of the current boot correct? i can't view back?
[20:46] <billybigrigger> i have the pool exported
[20:46] <billybigrigger> so i can't see anything in the current running os
[20:47] <Guest67> well i'm sat here on a fresh install of 22.04 and i'm having issues with my graphics card, the graphics card is a gtx 650
[20:47] <billybigrigger> oh i see old logs in /var/log let me investigate
[20:48] <Guest67> the nouveau driver is giving me a resolution of 600x800
[20:48] <Guest67> i've tried installing the proprietary driver and it can't even get the system to boot with that
[20:48] <ioria> Guest67, paste your specs: lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:49] <Guest67> https://termbin.com/jiucb
[20:50] <sarnold> billybigrigger: if you want to go through previous dmesg logs, you can use journalctl -b-1  to see the previous boot, journalctl -b-2 to see two boots ago, etc
[20:50] <billybigrigger> sarnold anything specific in dmesg i should be grepping for?
[20:50] <Guest67> this is my first time having any real issue with the default driver
[20:50] <billybigrigger> zfs, reds, sdb and sdc show nothing
[20:50] <Guest67> though for the last several years i've only used laptops
[20:50] <billybigrigger> sarnold https://imgur.com/l22FXrt
[20:50] <ioria> Guest67, you have no module in USE:   run: 'dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nctermbin.com 9999'
[20:51] <billybigrigger> sarnold https://imgur.com/a/l22FXrt
[20:51] <billybigrigger> ignore the first link
[20:51] <Guest67> sure
[20:51] <ioria> sorry
[20:51] <ioria> Guest67, 'dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999'
[20:52] <sarnold> billybigrigger: there's a lot of block device failure messages that won't include such a friendly name -- it's way better to read through dmesg completely by eye and look for things that way
[20:52] <billybigrigger> k
[20:52] <Guest67> i'm not getting any output from that
[20:53] <billybigrigger> sarnold is there a service that deals with block devices? like on freebsd, the camcontrol service would spit errors about anything scsi/sata related
[20:53] <billybigrigger> sarnold nothing i can easily grep for eh?
[20:53] <ioria> Guest67, please, again  run : 'dpkg -l | grep nvidia'
[20:54] <Guest67> no output. as i said i'm not running the proprietary drivers atm
[20:54] <sarnold> billybigrigger: heh, no, I'm more of a "I'll know the block errors when I see them" sort of thing
[20:54] <ioria> Guest67, ok: cat /proc/cmdline
[20:55] <Guest67> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.19.0-32-generic root=UUID=3ce79a58-a3c2-46fa-b7d5-7eccc093edad ro recovery nomodeset dis_ucode_ldr
[20:55] <ioria> Guest67, you're using nomodeset:    cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:56] <Guest67> https://termbin.com/ev85
[20:56] <Guest67> i believe that also means i'm in recovery mode. i can't seem to get the system to boot without first going into recovery mode
[20:56] <ioria> Guest67, sy, i mean, you booted in recovery mode; can't you bott normally ?
[20:56] <Guest67> yes
[20:56] <Guest67> it hangs
[20:57] <billybigrigger> fuck
[20:57] <billybigrigger> importing the pool one disk is resilvering
[20:58] <billybigrigger> dunno why it's resilvering, it had the data on it already
[20:58] <billybigrigger> it now shows the correct label of sdc though, not 38468468198468974
[20:58] <billybigrigger> it now shows the correct label of sdc though, not 38468468198468974
[20:58] <billybigrigger> oops
[20:59] <ioria> Guest67, your card is supported by nouveau; maybe you're set with Wayalnd
[20:59] <Guest67> do you happen to know how to disable wayland during install?
[20:59] <Guest67> or from recovery mode
[21:00] <stolen> is tar or tar.bz2 easier to unpack on ububtu ?
[21:00] <Guest67> wayland is still a complete mystery to me
[21:00] <billybigrigger> sarnold....ummm it only resilvered 16G
[21:00] <ioria> Guest67, dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:00] <Guest67> https://termbin.com/4x4h
[21:01] <billybigrigger> any ZFS gurus around? i imported a degraded pool, and it proceeded to to resilver the degraded disk, but only 16G.... scan: resilvered 16.2G in 00:02:34 with 0 errors on Wed Feb 15 17:00:11 2023
[21:02] <billybigrigger> the pool of 2x 4TB drives is 60% full.....how come it only resilvered 16GB? i though resilvering a mirror would do the whole disk?
[21:03] <ioria> Guest67, whene and where does it hangs exactly ?
[21:03] <Guest67> i get an error saying mtd device must be supplied device name is empty
[21:04] <sarnold> billybigrigger: no, zfs only scans the *data* on the disks, not the empty spaces
[21:04] <Guest67> i'd send the exact error to you but i have no way to
[21:05] <Guest67> no cursor no nothing, just hangs on that screen
[21:06] <ioria> Guest67, let's try an update: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[21:06] <Guest67> alright
[21:06] <Guest67> wow that's a lot of updates
[21:06] <Guest67> does ubuntu not update during install anymore? it's been a long while
[21:07] <ioria> Guest67, please, install all the requirements
[21:08] <Guest67> it's installing as we speak
[21:08] <ioria> ok
[21:08] <Guest67> should i go ahead and reboot after the updates are installed?
[21:09] <ioria> Guest67, yes
[21:10] <Guest67> alright, just in case my computer bursts into flames before i make it back online, thanks for all your help ioria
[21:10] <ioria> Guest67, no prob :þ
[21:10] <Sven_vB> hi :) in Jammy, my SSH login via authorized_keys is denied. where do I see the SSH server's error details? I have a hunch it might be about permissions of the authorized_keys file, albeit they look good.
[21:13] <Sven_vB> on the SSH client I get "debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply", "debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password" that does mean my key is denied right?
[21:14] <Sven_vB> nevermind, auth.log confirms it.
[21:16] <lubuntu> Van itt valaki?
[21:16] <Guest67> so again it hangs during bootup but without any sort of an error message, just green pixelated streaks across the black screen
[21:16] <Guest67> i rebooted and booted with nomodeset
[21:17] <Guest67> again low resolution of course
[21:17] <ioria> Guest67, try to disable wayland : sudo nano /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
[21:17] <Guest67> alright
[21:18] <ioria> Guest67, and uncommnet #WaylandEnable=false
[21:18] <Guest67> guess i'll brb
[21:24] <Sven_vB> well, guess I'll use password auth for the time being.
[21:33] <Guest67> well disabling wayland didn't work
[21:33] <Guest67> i even gave it a little longer to sit and work than before
[21:33] <Guest67> went to took out the trash while it attempted to boot
[21:34] <ioria> Guest67, sy, i really need to go; keep asking or come back tomorrow
[21:34] <sbine> Sven_vB:Have you tried to recreate a key with ssh-keygen and ssh-add it, just to see?
[21:34] <Guest67> anybody else want to help me tackle this?
[21:35] <Sven_vB> sbine, you mean I should try another key? I could do that.
[21:35] <Sven_vB> sbine, for now I just copied the authorized_keys file from a server where it works
[21:36] <Guest6713> i'm thinking this computer may just hate ubuntu
[21:37] <Sven_vB> still I'd rather have a way to read SSH server's error messages than try at random.
[21:39] <ravage> Guest6713: try the commands at https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/VideoAcceleration.html with theh nouveau driver
[21:39] <ravage> "If your distribution isn't in the list, you can run the following commands to install the firmware:"
[21:39] <ravage> the ubuntu firmware file is really old.
[21:40] <Guest6713> ok thanks i'll give that a shot
[21:40] <ravage> im not sure which version is the latest your card supports
[21:40] <ravage> i would get that
[21:42] <ravage> https://www.nvidia.de/Download/driverResults.aspx/123709/en-us i think
[21:44] <Guest6713> 470 is the latest
[21:45] <ravage> ok
[21:45] <Guest6713> though when i installed it using the additional drivers software it failed to boot at all
[21:45] <ravage> i just selected it on the download page and it gave me this link
[21:45] <ravage> but even that driver is from 2017 and the nouveau firmware blob is from 2009
[21:46] <ravage> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/nouveau-firmware
[21:46] <Guest6713> wow 2009?
[21:46] <Guest6713> that's insane
[21:46] <ravage> yep
[21:46] <ravage> as i said. just VERY old
[21:46] <Guest6713> i wasn't aware of ubuntu's existence yet
[21:46] <Guest6713> if it even did exist yet
[21:47] <ravage> if it solves your problem make sure to mark yourself as affected for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nouveau-firmware/+bug/1441631
[21:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1441631 in nouveau-firmware (Ubuntu) "should update firmware because old 2009" [Wishlist, New]
[21:47] <Guest6713> wow
[22:12] <legendre> Can someone explain this bios partition that the installer is complaining about?
[22:12] <legendre> (Not existing)
[22:13] <ravage> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS_boot_partition
[22:13] <ravage> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace#BIOS-Boot_or_EFI_partition_.28required_on_GPT_disks.29
[22:15] <legendre> So do I actually need one on a legacy box? It has been running 16.o4 and didn't need one
[22:16] <legendre> Thus my confusion
[22:16] <ravage> if you want to use GTP then yes
[22:16] <ravage> GPT
[22:16] <legendre> Why would I want to use gpt?
[22:17] <legendre> Got by without it for like 25 yrs
[22:17] <ravage> because MBR is from 1983 and you may want to use the current standard
[22:17] <legendre> So just for the sake of currency?
[22:18] <ravage> you seem old enough to google the differences and advantages yourself
[22:18] <legendre> Seems pointless.
[22:18] <ravage> good luck
[22:19] <legendre> Thanks.
[22:20] <legendre> Fwiw, I've had 3 strokes.. picking up new ideas like this isn't easy these days.
[22:20] <legendre> Was just hoping for a quick concise answer
[22:21] <Sven_vB> now that's odd. it seems my authorized_keys on jammy actually does work, when I connect from a xenial machine. it doesn't though from an ancient non-ubuntu. so I guess they cannot agree on some of the crypto algorithms? but then why will password auth work?
[22:23] <legendre> And what's really getting me, is that the new lts ran FINE on this box, with no gpt..
[22:24] <legendre> But the / part was too small, only 10G, so I had to redo from start.. and now it's complaining.
[22:25] <arraybolt3> legendre: The modern Ubuntu installer uses GPT partition tables everywhere by default. Why, I don't know.
[22:25] <arraybolt3> legendre: For BIOS and GPT to work together, you need a small bios_boot partition at the start of the drive.
[22:25] <arraybolt3> Thus why it gripes.
[22:25] <legendre> So where do I put the bios boot part? Part #1?
[22:26] <arraybolt3> Yes.
[22:26] <legendre> Make it.. 1MB?
[22:26] <arraybolt3> I think so. 8 MB might work too.
[22:26] <legendre> 5MB?
[22:26] <legendre> Ok, 8mb
[22:26] <Jeremy31> legendre: At the start of the drive, 1 MB is needed
[22:27] <legendre> So it just stores 2nd phase of grub?
[22:27] <legendre> First phase in MBR?
[22:28] <arraybolt3> legendre: I actually don't know what exactly it stored :P I just know GRUB uses it and needs it with GPT partition tables.
[22:28] <Jeremy31> It allows extra space for Grub to install
[22:29] <legendre> Fair enough
[22:29] <legendre> Ok, good enough for now. Second question
[22:31] <legendre> Just me, or doesn't fdisk allow me to create an extended part w/ logical drives?
[22:31] <legendre> I don't see an option to create sda5
[22:31] <arraybolt3> legendre: I think fdisk should do that...
[22:31]  * arraybolt3 checks
[22:31] <legendre> So do I..
[22:32] <legendre> I might have missed it..
[22:32] <arraybolt3> legendre: After running `n` for a new partition, you are given the option.
[22:32] <arraybolt3> `p` for primary, `e` for extended.
[22:33] <legendre> Heh, let me look again.. I only saw primary and logical
[22:43] <legendre> So.. which fs on the bios boot part? Fat32?
[22:44] <arraybolt3> legendre: Unformatted.
[22:44] <legendre> Oh, ok.
[22:44] <arraybolt3> GRUB knows what it wants to do with the partition, no filesystem is needed there.
[22:51] <legendre> Still no option to create extended part.
[22:51] <legendre> Just Primary or Logical
[22:52] <legendre> Hell with it, I made 3 primary parts
[22:52] <legendre> It will work
[22:53] <legendre> This is with the gui part tool.. cfdisk?
[22:53] <legendre> As used by the installer.
[22:54] <Alexion> Hello! How can I check the speed of my wifi connection?
[22:54] <Jeremy31> speedtest.net
[22:54] <leftyfb> iperf
[22:55] <leftyfb> speedtest does not check the speed if your wifi, it checks the speed of the internet connection
[22:56] <legendre> It tests the speed of the slowest link in the chain..
[22:56] <Marcopolo1> hello
[22:56] <Marcopolo1> I am trying to run spotufy from snapstore but this is the error message i get :
[22:57] <Marcopolo1> https://imgur.com/a/UUiYo3w
[22:57] <Marcopolo1> I dont know how to fix that
[22:57] <Marcopolo1> The issue is present on the main iso because im running a fresh install and it gives that error
[22:57] <tomreyn> legendre: with MBR, logical partitions can only exist in the extended partition. so if you create a logical, fdisk will probably create the extended automatically
[22:58] <Alexion> leftyfb: what do I have to specify after iperf ? the name of the wifi interface?
[22:58] <legendre> tom - yep, that's how I know it too.
[22:59] <legendre> But that's not what I saw last night.
[22:59] <tomreyn> legendre: what did you see last night?
[22:59] <leftyfb> Alexion: https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/install-iperf-to-diagnose-network-speed-in-linux/
[22:59] <ravage> Marcopolo1: looks like a missing video driver. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1384489/error-while-running-spotify-libva-error-init-failed if you have an intel card
[22:59] <legendre> Tacked a logical on directly after the primarys
[23:00] <legendre> No indication of sda5 etc
[23:00] <tomreyn> maybe that wasn't MBR?
[23:00] <legendre> Hmm, maybe it hides it?
[23:00] <ravage> Marcopolo1: could also be a wayland problem https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/y5vday/spotify_error_message/
[23:00] <tomreyn> also possible
[23:01] <legendre> It's an older box, Optiplex 320
[23:01] <Alexion> leftyfb: no, I don't want to test the transfer speed, but the speed at which wifi is connected
[23:02] <ravage> Alexion: iperf is the tool you want then
[23:02] <legendre> You know, I don't recall how it enumerated the logical drives.
[23:02] <Alexion> I don't want to do a server-client test, which I see is iperf for
[23:02] <legendre> Maybe it did auto create the ext part
[23:02] <ravage> Alexion: iwconfig will show you the "connected" speed which is pretty much useless
[23:03] <Marcopolo1> ravage: i  did what they said in the post and i get that error https://imgur.com/a/8S3LUDd
[23:03] <legendre> And just hid it. That was always a point of newb confusion
[23:03] <ravage> Marcopolo1: i cant really help with that error. check https://community.spotify.com/t5/Desktop-Linux/bd-p/desktop_linux
[23:04] <Alexion> ravage: I read online about iwconfig , but in my case it doesn't show the connected speed, which I'm looking for
[23:04] <Alexion> it doesn't show much info in my case, actually
[23:04] <leftyfb> Alexion: wifi isn't "connected" at a speed exactly. It's associated with a station and will change "speed" based on dozens of factors
[23:04] <legendre> Alex looked at the dmesg? I'll bet the connection speed is in there...
[23:04] <leftyfb> Alexion: what exactly are you trying to accomplish for besides "the speed at which wifi is connected
[23:05] <Alexion> if I don't move and the signal strength is maximum, the speed shouldn't change
[23:05] <leftyfb> wifi is connected at 2.4ghz or 5ghz, not speeds
[23:05] <Alexion> no, not frequency
[23:05] <leftyfb> Alexion: that is 100% not true
[23:05] <Alexion> speed
[23:05] <Alexion> like 74Mbps, 300Mbps etc.
[23:05] <leftyfb> Alexion: again, that's not how wifi works
[23:05] <Alexion> leftyfb: but in Windows it does show that
[23:06] <Alexion> I want to see that in Linux too
[23:06] <leftyfb> Alexion: that might be a current transfer speed, not a "connected at" speed since that doesn't exist
[23:06] <leftyfb> Alexion: you can lookup the chipset of your client wifi and of your station and take the slower of the 2, that will be your top speed
[23:06] <Alexion> it does exist, manufacturer says that speed in the specs of the router
[23:07] <leftyfb> that is top speed
[23:07] <ravage> Alexion: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/76457/how-to-find-speed-of-wlan-interface
[23:07] <leftyfb> not "connected at" speed
[23:07] <Alexion> leftyfb: not always, sometimes it connects even slower, wifi has many modes
[23:07] <leftyfb> and that will all change on the fly as needed
[23:08] <leftyfb> Alexion: cat /proc/net/wireless
[23:08] <leftyfb> there ya go, lots of numbers to play with
[23:10] <Jeremy31> Alexion: Is there an issue with your wifi that you are asking this question?
[23:21] <legendre> Well.. Install went OK, but then I started Firefox and the box locked up hard. Lol
[23:21] <legendre> Mint was also locking it up.. that's why I tried xubuntu
[23:22] <legendre> I vaguely recall something about this.. kernel line needed for the opti 320.
[23:23] <legendre> Either way, 16.04 was totally stable
[23:23] <legendre> But not these new dists
[23:23] <tomreyn> desktops changed since then, hardware requirements, too
[23:24] <legendre> Sure
[23:24] <tomreyn> maybe you 16.04 was a 32-bit one, and now you're on 64-bit
[23:24] <tomreyn> so the computer locked up, and you immediately attributed that to the wireless somehow?
[23:24] <legendre> Not sure what 16.o4 was
[23:25] <legendre> The wireless? Huh?
[23:25] <legendre> No...
[23:26] <tomreyn> oh i mixed that up with alexion, sorry
[23:26] <legendre> No prob.
[23:27] <legendre> It locks like it's a vid driver thing
[23:27] <tomreyn> how much ram does it have installed?
[23:27] <legendre> Just a guesx
[23:28] <legendre> Unsure atm.
[23:28] <legendre> Probably 4G
[23:29] <tomreyn> that's the bare minimum for gnome-shell and modern web browsers, i'd say
[23:29] <legendre> I'm running xfce fwiw, xubuntu
[23:31] <legendre> Anyway, enough fun for now.. just had 4hrz of dislysis
[23:31] <latef02>  hello idont know what happen to my firefox in  dwm it takelike  second to start it just happen yesterday
[23:31] <legendre> Pretty beat up
[23:36] <latef02> i mean 30 second
[23:42] <arraybolt3> latef02: What version of Ubuntu?
[23:42] <latef02> am in arch linux i use dwm
[23:43] <leftyfb> lol
[23:43] <arraybolt3> latef02: Oh. Sadly, we can't support Arch Linux in this room.
[23:43] <arraybolt3> However, I'm sure there's an arch hannel somewhere on Libera.
[23:43] <arraybolt3> latef02: Yeah, try #archlinux, they probably know more.
[23:43] <latef02> arraybolt3, leftyfb  ah ok i will try arch room
[23:43] <latef02> thanks
[23:44] <arraybolt3> latef02: (FWIW, I've used Arch, DWM, and Firefox before and it didn't take no 30 seconds to start so I'm sure it's just something misconfigured somewhere or possible really slow hardware.)
[23:44] <arraybolt3> *possibly
[23:44] <arraybolt3> But now *I'm* going off-topic :P
[23:45] <latef02> arraybolt3, no was launched with keybinng in just like 3 or 5 second now it take 30
[23:45] <latef02> so how can i clean all config from firefox
[23:45] <arraybolt3> latef02: Ask that in #archlinux and I'll try and answer there.
[23:46] <leftyfb> latef02: Please ask for support in #archlinux
[23:46] <arraybolt3> (For the sake of this room's rules.)
[23:46] <latef02> am sorry i xant open room of arch linux in libra i dont know why
[23:46] <arraybolt3> latef02: Probabyl need to register your nick then.
[23:46] <arraybolt3> Lemme find a link...
[23:46] <leftyfb> latef02: type:  /join #archlinux
[23:46] <arraybolt3> latef02: https://libera.chat/guides/registration
[23:47] <latef02> arraybolt3, thank you i will try
[23:47] <arraybolt3> Yeah, #archlinux has the "r" channel mode set, which means you need to be registered and logged in first.
[23:47] <arraybolt3> It's a spam prevention mechanism.
[23:48] <latef02> arraybolt3, thank you verry much for help