[01:07] <Guest52> Does Ubuntu Pro work with Kubuntu 22.04 LTS?.
[02:04] <user|76> hi
[02:04] <user|76> I am installing kubuntu and just wanted to see how i should do the disk setup
[02:05] <user|76> I am coming from linux mint which recommends how to partition the drive
[02:10] <user|76> is there anybody around for assistance?
[02:16] <arraybolt3> user|76: o/
[02:17] <arraybolt3> user|76: For most people, just using "Guided - use entire disk" is sufficient. If you're concerned about your system being stolen, "Guided - use LVM and encryption" would be better if you can remember a disk encryption password.
 It's all personal.  Nowadays,  with SSD of 120GB I go with the default.  With larger discs I would do: double ram for swap, around 1/3 for system and the rest for /home/.
 I believe you will need to go with manual partitioning.
[02:40] <user|76> hi
[02:40] <user|76> how do you enable wifi on kubuntu
[02:47] <arraybolt3> user|76: If WiFi isn't working out of the box, you'll need to enable proprietary drivers - this will hopefully get it working.
[02:47] <user|76> how do i do that?
[02:48] <arraybolt3> To do that, you can start the Kubuntu installer, and go through the screens until it asks if you want to enable proprietary drivers on one of the screens. Check that box, proceed to the next screen, and WiFi should start working.
[02:48] <arraybolt3> You can then use WiFI in the live session before you finish installation, and you can back out of the installation entirely if you wish.
[02:48] <arraybolt3> (Sorry about typos :P)
[02:49] <user|76> i went through the installer and asked about proprietary drives and checked that box ( 3rd party applications etc)
[02:49] <arraybolt3> user|76: Hmm. Can you run "lspci", find your wireless adapter, and share it's name?
[02:49] <arraybolt3> (lspci is a terminal command - you can run it in Konsole.)
[02:49] <user|76> ok hold on
[02:51] <user|76> i just see network controler
[02:51] <arraybolt3> Do you see anything about "Realtek" in the output?
[02:52] <arraybolt3> And if so, what's the ID number near it (something like 8812au or the like)?
[02:52] <user|76> is there a way i can show you the list i have here?
[02:52] <arraybolt3> user|76: Is the system connected to the Internet via Ethernet or tethering or something similar?
[02:53] <arraybolt3> If so, you can run "lspci | nc termbin.com 9999" and share the link.
[02:53] <arraybolt3> (The | in the middle is a bar character, generally able to be typed by pressing Shift+Backslash.)
[02:54] <user|76> it says termbin command not found
[02:54] <arraybolt3> You probably made a typo - it's "nc termbin.com 9999", not just "termbin.com 9999".
[02:55] <user|76> oh ok
[02:55] <arraybolt3> (nc is the command - it connect to a specified website, in this case termbin.com, and sends info to it, in this case the output of lspci.)
[02:55] <arraybolt3> (There's some other details invovled here, but they don't matter at the moment.)
[02:56] <user|76> it says " nc: getaddrinfo for host "termbin.com" port 9999: temporary failure in name resolution
[02:57] <arraybolt3> user|76: That means you're not connected to the Internet.
[02:57] <arraybolt3> If you have a mobile phone with USB tethering, you can use that to connect to the Internet temporarily while we're getting WiFi working.
[02:57] <arraybolt3> Or if you have an Ethernet cable and your router and laptop both support Ethernet, you can use that too.
[02:58] <user|76> yup thats what i am talking to on another device using linux mint which also can't find wifi
[02:58] <user|76> I am going to plug in the lan in the other device and type it there and see if i can load up this chat again
[02:59] <arraybolt3> user|76: OK, then just switch it over to the laptop we're trying to fix. You can reconnect to IRC from there so we can keep trying stuff.
[02:59] <user|76> oops the laptop i got i did not purchase an ethernet port
[02:59] <arraybolt3> Tar. OK that complicates things.
[02:59] <arraybolt3> Uh... ok we're going to have to do this over text then.
[03:00] <arraybolt3> Run "lspci | grep Realtek" and tell me if you get any output.
[03:00] <user|76> yea Can i screenshot from a camera and paste in
[03:00] <user|76> ok hold on
[03:00] <arraybolt3> Yeah that should work.
[03:00] <arraybolt3> You can use Imgur.com for sharing screenshots.
[03:00] <arraybolt3> (Or an image hosting website of your choice, like ImgBB or whatever.)
[03:02] <user|7680> Hi I am also under user|76
[03:02] <arraybolt3> o/
[03:03] <user|7680> What file size do photo s have to be ?
[03:03] <arraybolt3> user|7680: Doesn't matter, anything that Imgur or whatever accepts will work.
[03:03] <arraybolt3> You can't paste images into IRC, I don't think.
[03:07] <user|7648> https://imgur.com/a/sy1ZNDf
[03:07] <user|7648> Try that
[03:07] <arraybolt3> user|7648: Oh that's unexpected. Intel Wi-Fi 6 should work out of the box.
[03:08] <arraybolt3> Are you sure that the WiFi adapter isn't working? What happens if you click the network icon in the system tray?
[03:08] <user|7648> Yea that's what I thought to
[03:08] <user|7648> It says no available connections
[03:08] <arraybolt3> user|7648: Also, if you can show the output of "sudo dmesg | grep -i firmware" that would be helpful, to see if maybe there's a firmware load problem causing WiFi to fail.
[03:09] <user|7648> Ok I will run that
[03:11] <user|7648> https://imgur.com/a/cd6YDDU
[03:12] <arraybolt3> user|7648: Hmm. OK so it looks like the Wi-Fi should be working. Can you open the network applet by clicking on the network icon and then send a screenshot of that just so I can be perfectly sure of what you're looking at?
[03:13] <user|7648> Sure my font is like -2000
[03:14] <user|7648> https://imgur.com/a/FSU0IWL
[03:15] <arraybolt3> OK that's very weird. Maybe WiFi is turned off - are you sure you didn't press an Airplane Mode button on accident? Also can you share the output of "rfkill"?
[03:15] <user|7648> Sure I will run that
[03:16] <user|7648> It says 0 Bluetooth hci0 unblocked unblocked
[03:16] <arraybolt3> And then a 1 wlan phy0 blocked unblocked I'm hoping?
[03:16] <arraybolt3> Or just the 0 bluetooth line?
[03:17] <user|7648> Just that 1 line
[03:17] <arraybolt3> Gah. OK that's just plain weird.
[03:17] <arraybolt3> "sudo dmesg | grep iwlwifi"
[03:17] <user|7648> What should it say
[03:18] <arraybolt3> I just want a screenshot so I can look for errors.
[03:18] <arraybolt3> iwlwifi is the Intel wifi drivefr, so if there's errors in the dmesg log there, that should help.
[03:18] <user|7648> Ok hold on
[03:19] <user|7648> https://imgur.com/a/w1PJRiL
[03:20] <arraybolt3> I meant a screenshot of "sudo dmesg | grep iwlwifi".
[03:21] <user|7648> Nothing happened
[03:21] <arraybolt3> ? I can see iwlwifi stuff in the previous grep output, so I'm sure it should show *something*. Maybe you typoed it?
[03:22] <user|7648> Ok it's a long list
[03:22] <arraybolt3> Even just the end of it should be helpful.
[03:22] <user|7648> Ok
[03:23] <user|7648> https://imgur.com/a/Eh486Zo
[03:23] <arraybolt3> OK so there are errors. Lemme try to google some stuff...
[03:24] <arraybolt3> But that at least explains what's happening.
[03:25] <arraybolt3> user|7648: Try "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off".
[03:26] <user|7648> Ok thanks
[03:26] <arraybolt3> user|7648: If that command fails because wlan0 doesn't exist, run "iwconfig" by itself to find out your WiFi adapter's ID.
[03:27] <arraybolt3> https://askubuntu.com/questions/517463/intel-corporation-wireless-n-7260-card-dies-randomly/521577#521577
[03:29] <user|7683> Ok hold on
[03:30] <user|7683> It says " lo     no wireless extensions "
[03:30] <user|7683> This chat keeps kicking me out after like 30 seconds of inactivity sorry for the constant user changes
[03:31] <arraybolt3> user|7683: No problem, I've had that happen too.
[03:31] <arraybolt3> But... gah, that's frustrating.
[03:32] <user|7683> What does that mean there's no extension I wonder if there is a wireless card installed on this device
[03:33] <arraybolt3> user|7683: Yeah, there is, it shows up in lspci.
[03:33] <arraybolt3> Does anything in this post help? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/334894/iwlwifi-failed-to-start-init-ucode-110
[03:36] <user|7683> I am unsure there s tons of code to type in
[03:37] <user|7683> I am also going to talk to framework and see if they sent me a bad wifi adapter
[03:38] <user|7683> I have a USB port is there an adapter that has an Ethernet to USB to computer to run cable connection ?
[03:45] <user|7663> Thanks for the help so far arraybolt3
[03:49] <arraybolt3> user|7663: Glad to at least try to help, sorry things aren't quite working.
[03:49] <arraybolt3> user|7663: This is a Framework? Then this is almost without question a hardware problem - Framework systems should work with Ubuntu 22.04 (and by extension its flavors including Kubuntu) out of the box.
[03:50] <arraybolt3> user|7663: Or maybe you routed your antennas wrong? is this a DIY build?
[03:50] <user|7663> It is a DIY but I put in there to install the wifi
[03:51] <arraybolt3> user|7663: https://guides.frame.work/Guide/Framework+Laptop+DIY+Edition+Quick+Start+Guide/57 "The antenna cables should not touch the Speaker located below. Use the spudger end of the Framework Screwdriver to carefully push the white cable away from the Speaker if it is touching it."
[03:51] <arraybolt3> Open it up and see if the cables are touching the speaker.
[03:52] <arraybolt3> If that doesn't help, then yeah, I'd ask them for help.
[03:52] <arraybolt3> user|7663: This is Kubuntu 22.04 right?
[03:59] <user|7634> So for windows they want you to install the driver's but like I said it should work out of the box .I will contact them thanks once again. When I chatted in Linux mint forum I was getting yelled at and brushed off to go figure it out . Nice to see people care here
[04:00] <arraybolt3> user|7634: Man, that's sad. Hey, there's one more trick for Frameworks I know...
[04:02] <user|7634> Ok what is it
[04:02] <arraybolt3> Try updated WiFi firmware.
[04:02] <arraybolt3> I was gonna find the post on Framework's forums.
[04:03] <user|7634> I saw they want u to make sure the kernel for Linux is up to date
[04:03] <user|7634> I would need a connection though right to get the wifi firmware though ?
[04:05] <arraybolt3> user|7634: Nah, you can download it on another machine and then move it to the target machine.
[04:06] <user|7634> Through a USB ?
[04:06] <arraybolt3> user|7634: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005511/wireless.html
[04:06] <arraybolt3> user|7634: Yeah, with a USB drive.
[04:06] <arraybolt3> The topmost entry in that list looks like it.
[04:08] <arraybolt3> user|7634: I'm starting to poop out, maybe you can make a post on the Framework forums about the issue? I want to keep helping but am unsure how much more help I'm going to be tired and hungry :P
[04:08] <arraybolt3> user|7634: If they also think it's a hardware problem, then hopefully they can swap out a component for you.
[04:09] <user|76> i will try to download it to the usb on the working device connected ot the lan
[04:09] <user|76> how would i load it once i place the usb in the framework though?
[04:09] <arraybolt3> I think you move the contents of the archive to /lib/firmware to install it.
[04:09] <arraybolt3> user|76: You might need to move all of the exiting iwlwifi files somewhere else first.
[04:11] <arraybolt3> user|76: If you need admin rights to move the files, you can use "sudo mv source destination" to do that.
[04:13] <user|76> let me ask you this question. If i by an adapter that is an ethernet port that then connects to the usb of the framework would that serve as a "wired connection"
[04:13] <arraybolt3> Almost certainly.
[04:14] <user|76> the usb i have isn't reading on my other laptop i dunno why . the other usb i have nearby is the iso image i loaded onto the framework i don't want to add anything there yet
[04:15] <user|76> yea i think i will just buy an adapter for now cause thats how the framework works. their extension ports are really usb C on the internal laptop side and externally is what you choose to get
[04:15] <arraybolt3> I stil lthink Frameworks look cool, I kinda want one, but I just got a new laptop so :P I'm gonna stick with this for now.
[04:15] <user|76> so the ethernet would have been a usb C internally and then ethernet externally i just didn't want to pay 35 bucks for it
[04:16] <user|76> yea i am gunna just download the firmware to see whats going on and also message them cause it should just work out of the box like u said
[14:12] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:06] <fusionfutureTele> Hi all
[15:14] <BluesKaj> hi fusionfutureTele
 How can i use dd command to make a bootable drive?
[15:50] <oerheks> omar, with sudo ?
[15:51] <oerheks> sudo dd if=<name>.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M
[15:51] <oerheks> where sdX is your usb device
 Can i add a Progress bar?
[15:58] <oerheks> oh, sure you can find that answer..
 Ok thank you so much
[16:34] <Dragnslcr> !info dcfldd
[16:35] <Dragnslcr> I'm pretty sure that program shows progress
[16:41] <alkisg> sudo dd if=<name>.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M status=progress
[18:18] <zorin1> Does anyone know when Plasma 5.27 will be in backport?
[18:23] <ka> Hi. Is anyone having problems with Picard (Musicbrainz) crashing on start up ?
[18:24] <oerheks> zorin1, For Kubuntu 22.04 users, you will not get 5.27 for its lifetime. only the beta ppa gives 5.27 for 22.10  https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/beta
 What is this 'bs=4M' ? (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> sudo dd if=<name>.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M status=progress)
[18:26] <oerheks> omar blocksize
[18:29] <arraybolt3> @Omar: The blocksize controls how much data dd tries to write to the drive at a time. Larger blocksizes will result in faster write speed up to a point in my experience.
[18:29] <arraybolt3> bs=4M writes data to the drive in 4-megabyte blocks, which generally gives good performance.
[18:30] <arraybolt3> (Leaving the blocksize out entirely usually results in painfully slow flashes.)
[18:58] <zorin1> oerkeks, I'm running 22.10.  I was just wondering how long it will take for Plasma 5.27 to show up in backports.pa
[18:59] <oerheks> zorin1, i gave you the beta ppa, no info about when it appears in backports itself
[19:00] <oerheks> it has just been released, so be patient.
[19:01] <zorin1> I was looking to see if there was any place where I could see the status of it.  I could not find anything.
[19:01] <oerheks> or build it yourslef?
[19:02] <zorin1> I just learned about backports.pa.   I did not realize what backports was.  I thought it was for older version of software.
[19:03] <zorin1> If I'm going to build it, then I should just join the development team. :)
[19:03] <oerheks> that, would be awesome
 So more block size us faster? (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> bs=4M writes data to the drive in 4-megabyte blocks, which generally gives good performance.)
[20:13] <arraybolt3> @Omar: Up to a point, yes. Once you cross a certain opint it starts getting slower though. What exactly that point is, may vary.
 Ok thank you (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> @Omar: Up to a point, yes. Once you cross a certain opint it starts getting slower though. What exactly that point is, may vary.)
 1opu
 &M86
 6x16
 😜 tough to read on mobile
 ..one request, pls increase dvd drive buffer size - it still happens that bioses wont honor usb sticks and liading from dvd is omfg slow because of zillions of head movements 😜
 (latest kubuntu 22.04.1 lts) - needed an hour to start
 You Can take measure with
 systemd-analyze blame
 If my Memory is good (re @JoDoGo42: (latest kubuntu 22.04.1 lts) - needed an hour to start)
 For check what service take time
 its all head movements of drive..
 not read errors or such..
 i guess its a hypercheap drive setup (samsung notebook) with any or a k or such hw cache
 ..assumed poor dvd first but its obviously the plain reading process bit by bit 😂
 😂
 yo just made it to open an xterm and chked dmesg 😂 any complaints about reading errors, its a buffer issue for sure
[21:30] <arraybolt3> DVD boot has always been slow for me, even in olden times. DVD buffer size - that's interesting, I never thought about that possibly helping things.
 what i just encountered was a real pita esp when booting live sys first with many small files entangled - a few minutes ago i started installation and that seems to work fine and fluently now
 that changed when live sys was fully booted, since then its normal head movement
 my 2c, when you detect a good portion of ram installed, give the dvd a rly good buffer size - each inode read seems to be a head movement otherwise and then back to file, back and forth each some hundred bytes..
 1h30 to boot live system (pita dvd)
 rest, hd (not ssd) install 25mins like a charm
 iso, kubuntu 22.04.1 desktop amd64
 device samsung laptop NP350E7C 8GB ram, radeon 78sth, .5TB hd, tmsc dvd writer
[22:05] <oerheks> why would that machine not boot from usb?
[22:20] <arraybolt3> oerheks: The other day a user here had a machine that refused to boot off anything that didn't use an MBR partition table. Didn't matter if it was a flashed ISO or a GPT table with a bios_boot partition - wasn't having it. We had to use this convoluted mess of a method to make a USB drive with an MBR partition table that was bootable, and *that* finally booted the laptop.
 sick bios just 🤷 (re @IrcsomeBot: <oerheks> why would that machine not boot from usb?)
 😂 sth like 2 options just, boot ms or shut down - but seriously, obviously made to run windoze only and users shouldnt touch anything in bios anyways approach..
 oh as i run over it again, that gnome language pack should be included automatically 😇
 (like in
 sudo apt-get install gimp-help-de language-pack-gnome-de)