[00:32] <jhutchins> cbreak: Really, though, snaps are applications, there's no need to reboot the system or play that whole game.  Most of the time the package manager can upgrade the files for an application even if it's running, and it will just pick up the changes next time it runs.  Often they'll even tell you to restart the program.  (Snaps might not do that.)
[00:33] <cbreak> jhutchins: yes, indeed, they could. apt does. snap doesn't :(
[00:33] <cbreak> I think this is weird, since at this time, I even have two different snap firefox mountpoints, so I think it could easily download and unpack the new snap image for the new firefox in the background
[00:34] <cbreak> seems they're squashfs mounts
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[01:30] <rajkosto> STEP 1: FROM docker.io/ubuntu:bionic
[01:30] <rajkosto> Error: error creating build container: Error initializing source docker://ubuntu:bionic: Error reading manifest bionic in docker.io/library/ubuntu: manifest unknown: OCI index found, but accept header does not support OCI indexes
[01:30] <rajkosto> what ???
[01:30] <rbox> what are you doing
[01:31] <rajkosto> just docker pull docker.io/ubuntu:bionic
[01:31] <rajkosto> some dockerfile im trying to install has it as step 1
[01:32] <rajkosto> it has worked for years
[01:32] <rbox> works here
[01:33] <arraybolt3> rajkosto: MIght just be a random glitch?
[01:39] <armandoxubuntu> acabando de instalar xubuntu , muy agradable la distro saludos desde mexico
[02:37] <akik> apt autoremove tries to remove the nvidia v470 packages that are in use. how can i prevent that? (20.04)
[02:38] <arraybolt3> apt-mark manual <packagename>
[02:38] <arraybolt3> I think that should do the trick.
[02:38] <akik> ok thanks
[02:38] <arraybolt3> Or possibly "apt install <packagename>", I believe that will set a package to manually installed.
[02:38] <akik> but they are already installed?
[02:38] <arraybolt3> True.
[02:38] <arraybolt3> From what I've seen, trying to install a package that's already installed makes it marked as manually installed.
[02:38] <akik> so it's not apt-mark hold?
[02:39] <akik> ok
[02:39] <arraybolt3> No, that does something very different that you do not want.
[02:39] <arraybolt3> (apt-mark hold I mean)
[02:39] <arraybolt3> apt-mark hold will prevent a package from being upgraded (among other things), which can be dangerous.
[02:39] <akik> ok
[02:39] <akik> i'll try that manual
[02:40] <arraybolt3> It is useful in some situations, but in this particular situation, the package is marked as automatically installed and has no dependencies that want it, thus autoremove thinks it can get rid of it. Marking it as manually installed should tell the system that you're using that.
[02:40] <akik> but what happens if there are updates to those v470 packages?
[02:40] <arraybolt3> akik: It will update like normal.
[02:40] <akik> thanks
[02:41] <akik> there are 26 matching packages
[02:41] <arraybolt3> You probably only need to mark the "master" package (the one that depends on all the others).
[02:42] <akik> i'll do them all with some bash
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[02:42] <arraybolt3> Mark whatever one of the packages looks "most important" with apt-mark manual, and if that doesn't do it, mark another one until they all behave themselves. Or yeah, you can mark the whole bunch.
[02:42] <arraybolt3> (You may have removed a metapackage if you're in this state though, did you remove anything nvidia-related recently?)
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[02:43] <akik> arraybolt3: no
[02:43] <akik> arraybolt3: this is a fresh install after a boot and 1 apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:43] <arraybolt3> Weird.
[02:44] <akik> apt-mark manual worked nice
[02:44] <arraybolt3> Nice.
[02:45] <FKAShinobi> Is there a way for apt to check if packages were installed correctly?
[02:48] <arraybolt3> FKAShinobi: I think so...
[02:49] <akik> the nvidia driver 470 for model 920m works after all
[02:49] <arraybolt3> FKAShinobi: I think "dpkg -V" will do an "integrity check" of your packages, but it will also probably take a while to run.
[02:49] <arraybolt3> FKAShinobi: I think you need to run it with sudo for it to work.
[02:51] <arraybolt3> For me, exactly two files are reported as being modified (if I'm reading it correctly), /etc/schroot/sbuild/fstab (which I purposefully modified) and /etc/dnsmasq.conf which I also purposefully modified.
[02:51] <arraybolt3> I think you may also want to check for half-installed packages, but I believe apt will throw a fit if there's problems like that.
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[04:07] <jorge-pc> w
[04:36] <cluelessperson> Hi there. I updated to ubuntu 22.04.2 and now my mouse is lagging badly
[04:36] <cluelessperson> so is scrolling nad UI updates
[04:36] <cluelessperson> text typing seems fine and responsive.
[04:36] <cluelessperson> basically my OS is currently unusable on this laptop
[04:48] <tomreyn> cluelessperson: which cpu, mainboard, how much ram?
[04:49] <tomreyn> anything in dmesg about it?
[04:49] <konrados> cluelessperson, but did you try changing the settings? Hardware - input devices - mouse?
[05:57] <therocker> hi everyone, Im trying to install retroarch on an orangepi but the problem is when I try to run a core it doesnt work at all, any idea how to get this to work ?
[06:01] <arraybolt3> therocker: Depending on the OS, an Orange Pi forum or channel might be more appropriate - no official versions of Ubuntu run on the Orange Pi, so we aren't able to support it very well.
[06:02] <arraybolt3> Also "doesn't work at all" isn't very descriptive - when you try to run a core, *something* happens, though it isn't the something you want. That something will be important for a supporter to know.
[06:02] <therocker> Im actually running a trunk build from armbian ubuntu jammy version
[06:03] <therocker> retroarch get freeze when I press download core
[06:03] <arraybolt3> That's not an official Ubuntu build, though. Many hardware manufacturers and third parties make unofficial Ubuntu images, however due to manufacturer-specific customizations we can't support those.
[06:03] <arraybolt3> It sounds like an Armbian support forum might be better.
[06:04] <therocker> ok thanks, I will go ask them if they know anything about it
[06:54] <cluelessperson> tomreyn, konrados   lenovo thinkpad x1 gen 10
[06:54] <cluelessperson> i7-1280p
[06:54] <cluelessperson> 16gb ram
[06:54] <cluelessperson> was fine before update
[06:56] <cluelessperson> discord snap is spamming the hell out of syslog
[06:58] <cluelessperson> and gnome-shell is spamming log with keyboard binding bs
[06:58] <cluelessperson> for years now
[07:40] <Guest109> I'm using LAMP stack on Ubuntu, I created three normal users. dev1, dev2, dev3. Each user has been assigned a home directory and SSH key login. I've added all three to the data-www group.  I am unable to add files data/www/website1. I get permission denied. I can simply assign rwx to each of them but am wondering if there is a better alternative
[07:40] <Guest109> than simply assigning rwx permissions to the data-www/website1 directory.
[07:45] <cluelessperson> Guest109, Hi there.   so you've added the users to the www group,  but does the www group have group ownership of that directory, and does are the permissions on that directory set such that the group can modify it?
[07:46] <cluelessperson> Guest109,   So in linux,  permissions are managed like this:    user:group own the directory,   and then 0000  where the last digits control    rwx rwx rwx
[07:46] <cluelessperson> rwx(user),  rwx(group), rwx(everyone)
[07:46] <cluelessperson> read, write,  x is for listing and viewing the contents of directory
[07:47] <cluelessperson> (and files)
[07:48] <cluelessperson> Guest109,   Frankly.  I suggest you create a github repo that the users can modify,  and then a build pipeline that deploys to the server on a test domain,  but then serve the latest version that's build
[07:48] <cluelessperson> make sense?
[07:57] <Guest109> Thanks cluelessperson ,It does make much more sense. eploying from github repo is on my todo list of system setups. Even then though, I imagine I would have to have at least one user with the permissions you mentioned above.
[08:00] <Guest109> Also, I assumed that because www-data owned the www-data, that all I needed to do was assign users to that group.
[08:00] <cluelessperson> Guest109, You can straight up host static sites from github
[08:00] <arraybolt3> User permissions and group permissions are different.
[08:01] <arraybolt3> One can grant rwx permissions for the www-data user, only rx permissions for www-data group, and zero permissions for others, if you want.
[08:01] <arraybolt3> So you may need to tweak the group permissions to get what you want to happen.
[08:01] <cluelessperson> Guest109,  and generally only a single admin needs to configure the server for github to push into it
[08:05] <arraybolt3> cluelessperson: For your laptop issues, have you tried booting from a 22.04 live USB? That would show us if it's a problem with your setup (or possibly with the upgrade going awry), or a problem with Ubuntu 22.04 in general.
[08:05] <arraybolt3> (Ubuntu 22.04.2 release candidate ISOs are out if you wanted to use one of those to test.)
[08:05] <Guest109> Thank you for helping me figure this out.  Makes sense about having only single user account for the deployment.
[08:06] <arraybolt3> cluelessperson: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/442/builds/271711/downloads (if you want one of the testing 22.04.2 ISOs)
[08:06] <arraybolt3> Note that you don't have to *install* with one of those (yet) - this is just for debugging.
[08:10] <alkisg> I wonder if http://www.proftpd.org/docs/contrib/mod_sftp.html can be used to allow sftp access to: (1) a list of users NOT in /etc/passwd (so that they won't be able to ssh to the server), (2) all of them with uid=gid=www-data, and (3) all of them with different "home directories", under /var/www/html/userX
[08:11] <alkisg> That would be simpler and safer than trying to restrict normal ssh users...
[08:11] <cluelessperson> arraybolt3, I doubt it's a problem with my setup, because I don't customize things really
[08:13] <Guest109> alkisg ,  I also thought about doing that. I assumed that to get sftp working that I would need to give them ssh key logins possibly without a home directory but will look at the document you mentioned.
[08:15] <alkisg> Guest109: I've once successfully tested creating a bunch of users, user1 to user10, with home directories of /home/userN, ALL of them with uid=gid=www-data (which then pwck complains about),
[08:15] <alkisg> and with symlinks from /var/www/html/user1 to /home/user1, and with the ChrootDirectory directive of openssh-server in effect, for safety. That worked, but it still required me to have the users in /etc/passwd, which I didn't like
[08:20] <Guest109> wow, that is extensive testing. I've seen mentions of uid-gid stuff.. It does appear that people prefer not to have to touch the /etc/passwd if they can avoid it. Not sure why though.
[08:20] <Guest109> And just to get a better handle on the group/user permissions and ownership. I tried writing to the var/www/html directory and got the same permission denied error.  calling the ls -lah command, I get: drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 4.0K Feb 14 02:45 html
[08:21] <Guest109> btw, The normal user I am using is dev1 which has been added to the www-data group.
[08:27] <cluelessperson> Guest109, I suggest not having user access to deployment servers.
[08:30] <Guest109> Yeah, I see. If I instead move over to deploying from a service like deployhq, I would still need to setup one user with rwx credentials know?
[08:30] <alkisg> Guest109: drwxr-xr-x needs to be drwxrwxr-x for group write access. It's (1) rwx for self, (2) rwx for group, and (3) r-x for others
[08:31] <Guest109> alkisg, got it.
[08:31] <cluelessperson> Guest109, Honestly, just giving a root ssh key to github service is fine.
[08:31] <Guest109> will try it out.
[08:31] <cluelessperson> presuming that server is only for web serving
[08:31] <Guest109> yeah, it is. I am trying to learn how to properly set a server up for web serving.
[08:33] <Guest109> At my work, they use github for version control and deployhq for deployment. I think I am trying to mix in learning how to work with user permission and making a mess out of the two things.
[08:34] <Guest109> By the way, i am not a web developer so don't have access to their server setup but was trying to spin up my own.
[08:36] <cluelessperson> Guest109, I wouldn't bother with deploy hq
[08:37] <Guest109> Gotcha, I've seen people mention github actions. Is this an alternative?
[08:39] <cluelessperson> Guest109,   So, github has a little dev marketplace for people to publish "actions", which are really just small pipeline automations you can refer to in your git repo
[08:39] <cluelessperson> Guest109, All you do is create a small directory and set of files like:    ./github/actions_or_whatever/main.yaml   which basically says:     use_action:   use_stored_secret to login and deploy to server
[08:40] <cluelessperson> Guest109, it's slightly more complex than that, but you can just lookup a template and go.  Fairly straight forward, don't overthink it.
[08:42] <Guest109> Yeah, I am guessing this all falls in the world of devops?  I created small static websites over 10 years ago for myself and from the looks of it, that way of doing things is way outdated.
[08:44] <Guest109> will look into github actions. I'm definitely prefer to learn how folks are deplying websites now a days and sounds like github actions may be one way to go.
[08:50] <Guest109> Thanks again everyone for all your help. "m so thankful I found this channel. Its 1:00 AM on my side of the world and time for me to hit the sack. Have a great night/day everyone!
[08:54] <cluelessperson> Guest109, yes, there's the development of software, then there's managing building it all, then finally deploying and running all the servers.
[10:30] <AustinAix> hello everyone
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> welcome AustinAix
[10:34] <AustinAix> merci Lotus
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[10:38] <AustinAix> question: I have get yesterday a Packarb Belle Easynote E1661 cpu AMD Sempron 2600+ 1,6Ghz 2G° ram 40G° DD,; which linux do I can install on ?  to make it as web pc mainly ! (I'm french)  :-)
[10:41] <cluelessperson> AustinAix, ubuntu is pretty solid. :)
[10:41] <toddc> AustinAix: you should have a minimum 4GB ram but you may have luck using Lubuntu or Xubuntu they are the lighte
[10:42] <cluelessperson> I'm on ubuntu and I updated with apt-get upgrade  and now gnome-shell hits high cpu when moving mouse, and the mouse is stuttering a lot.
[10:42] <AustinAix> and what about Linux Lite???
[10:42] <cluelessperson> also scroll events are slow
[10:43] <toddc> AustinAix: we only support ubuntu here I hope it not a 32 bit computer
[10:46] <toddc> cluelessperson: terminal run top it may be doing a process in the background
[10:49] <toddc> AustinAix: ubuntu ended support for 32 bit but there are some other distros that still support 32 bit check distrowatch.com has a listing of distros/reveiws ect
[11:00] <AustinAix> My PB  (founded) is running under WinXP !! :-)...
[11:10] <cluelessperson> toddc, not as far as I can tell.  It's just gnome-shell hitting high cpu briefly
[11:10] <cluelessperson> and xorg hitting 3%
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[11:46] <akik> anybody know what this error is about? "snapd-desktop-i[2522]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f30414a83d4 sp 00007ffebbc25d18 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.6400.6"
[11:46] <akik> some integration between the user session
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> akik: smells like bug #1983192
[11:48] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1983192 in snapd (Ubuntu) "snapd-desktop-integration crashed segfaulted" [Undecided, Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1983192
[11:49] <akik> lotuspsychje: ok thanks there seems to be some fix there
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[11:51] <lotuspsychje> akik: if you can reproduce & fix, please leave a comment on the bug ID aswell
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> akik: see also the git it points towards; https://github.com/snapcore/snapd-desktop-integration/issues/23
[11:51] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 23 in snapcore/snapd-desktop-integration "snap.snapd-desktop-integration.snapd-desktop-integration.service fails to start during boot" [Open]
[11:52] <akik> i'll see if this fixed it "sudo snap refresh snapd-desktop-integration --candidate"
[11:54] <keiton> hi
[11:54] <akik> yes fixed it, thanks
[11:54] <keiton> whats up
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> !yay | akik
[11:55] <ubottu> akik: Glad you made it! :-)
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[11:56] <cluelessperson> I'm stuck.
[11:57] <cluelessperson> mouse stuttering/hardly usable in ubuntu after upgrade on 22.04.2
[11:57] <cluelessperson> I don't think I'm doing anything odd on my system
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> lets see your dmesg in a pastebin cluelessperson plz
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[12:03] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, nothing stands out
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> lets have a look
[12:03] <cluelessperson> I need a minute, sorry :)
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[12:21] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychj3, https://termbin.com/42aqd
[12:21] <cluelessperson> it's really hard to use anything
[12:21] <cluelessperson> I've had this stuttering problem in the far past
[12:21] <cluelessperson> I don't recall what it was
[12:22] <lotuspsychj3> cluelessperson: you experience this on xorg or wayland?
[12:25] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychj3, xorg for now
[12:25] <cluelessperson> I don't recall exactly why?
[12:25] <cluelessperson> I think I'm using xorg because a lot of things don't support wayland yet.
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[12:26] <lotuspsychj3> cluelessperson: i also see your secureboot is enabled, this 'could' affect some of your hardware, maybe disable for a test?
[12:28] <lotuspsychj3> cluelessperson: could you also sudo lshw -C video | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:30] <cluelessperson> https://termbin.com/m4su
[12:30] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychj3, ^
[12:33] <lotuspsychj3> cluelessperson: not sure how intel graphics would stutter on xorg, maybe we need to look at something else
[12:33] <Jeremy31> cluelessperson: Can you reboot and use Grub Advanced Options for Ubuntu to boot into a 5.15 kernel?
[12:34] <WaV> It stuttered for me as well when I upgraded to 22.04, and I have Intel, but it is a discrete card.
[12:35] <cluelessperson> Jeremy31, is there a way to trigger that in advance?
[12:35] <cluelessperson> or, I forget how to get grub
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[12:35] <Jeremy31> cluelessperson: either right shift key or ESC to have Grub appear
[12:38] <Jeremy31> cluelessperson: Since you have UEFI, use the ESC
[12:45] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychj3, Jeremy31    The 5.15 kernel works fine
[12:45] <cluelessperson> mouse is smooth
[12:45] <cluelessperson> I think previously I used lowlatency kernel on another machine
[12:48] <Jeremy31> cluelessperson: You might want to remove the hwe kernel and stick with the 5.15
[12:52] <cluelessperson> Jeremy31, What even is hwe?
[12:54] <lotuspsychj3> !hwe | cluelessperson
[12:54] <ubottu> cluelessperson: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[12:54] <Jeremy31> cluelessperson: Hardware Enablement, it basically updates to a newer kernel from a short term support version as the kernel package installed is linux-generic-hwe-22.04 instead of the normal linux-generic  I think this started in Ubuntu 20.04, before that people could choose to use the hwe kernel
[12:57] <ice99> if there is a way to have faster response, why it's not provided to the desktop version too?    https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/02/real-time-ubuntu-kernel-general-availability
[12:58] <ravage> ice99: please dont cross post. and you already asked in the right channel
[12:58] <cluelessperson> followup question,  how can I disable PIV signon with ubuntu?
[12:58] <cluelessperson> I have a yubikey I want to leave installed
[12:58] <cluelessperson> and the user login gets messed up by piv
[12:59] <cluelessperson> (no users are setup with piv)
[13:38] <geosmile> https://dpaste.org/xVFbV - any ideas how to fix this kernel crash? My machine freezes at this point.
[13:40] <konrados> Am I reading this correctly, that a different version of **kernel** caused problems with a **mouse**? cluelessperson lotuspsychj3 ? Am I the only one who doesn't understand a bit? I mean, everything works fine, except for a... mouse? Really is the kernel personally responsible for that kind of stuff?
[13:42] <lotuspsychj3> konrados: his issue has not been investigating deeper yet, the mouse stuttering is his symptons, too early to make statements
[13:42] <geosmile> konrados, are you looking at my crash?
[13:44] <konrados> geosmile, no, it's about previous discussion
[13:44] <konrados> lotuspsychj3, ok, you calmed me down :)
[13:45] <geosmile> my crash happens when I am running my 2x3090 gpu experiments for around 6-7 hours.
[13:45] <geosmile> konrados, thanks. I thought I had a mouse issue as well ;-)
[13:46] <konrados> :)
[13:49] <lotuspsychj3> funny
[13:49] <geosmile> https://dpaste.org/eK4Xa - just before the crash it looks like the kernel complains about bad sata - could be the cause of the crash?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> Hi all
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[14:13] <geosmile> sudo smartctl -t conveyance /dev/sda ---> Command "Execute SMART Conveyance self-test routine immediately in off-line mode" failed: scsi error badly formed scsi parameters
[14:27] <akik> i couldn't make the nvidia driver work reliably with my 920m optimus. luckily the igpu on this laptop is powerful enough for my usage
[14:28] <akik> any it utilizes vaapi in playback
[14:28] <akik> video playback
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[15:06] <FKAShinobi> deluged is blowing up my syslog with errors. Can someone help me with fixing this? https://pastebin.com/rP5nTfMS
[15:14] <akik> FKAShinobi: i don't use deluged but somebody says that this patch fixes it: https://github.com/deluge-torrent/deluge/commit/89189adb24321c3db6bfa816ec557d7d8367ba24
[15:14] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Commit 89189ad in deluge-torrent/deluge "[Core] Stop using removed disk.num_blocks_cache_hits stat"
[15:14] <akik> https://dev.deluge-torrent.org/ticket/3514
[15:14] -ubottu:#ubuntu- dev.deluge-torrent.org ticket 3514 in Unknown "syslog spam: builtins.KeyError: 'disk.num_blocks_cache_hits'" [Minor, New]
[15:15] <akik> it doesn't look too bad to fix manually
[15:19] <FKAShinobi> akik: It's python, so I could just stop the service, cut and paste those lines in and try again, correct?
[15:20] <akik> FKAShinobi: remove the red lines and add the green lines in their place
[15:21] <akik> for the first files there's nothing to remove but i'm not sure if there are multiple files
[15:21] <akik> deluge/ui/web/js/extjs/ext-extensions*.js
[15:21] <akik> because of that *
[15:21] <FKAShinobi> akik: A screw it - I should just learn how to patch and stop being a clown..
[15:22] <akik> i'm not a programmer but i've learned to "wing it" :)
[15:22] <FKAShinobi> I need to download a diff and use patch?
[15:22] <akik> that looks like a unified patch
[15:22] <akik> diff
[15:23] <akik> i'd just use an editor :)
[15:24] <akik> because i'm not sure which version of deluge you have and if that patch still applies (2021)
[15:24] <FKAShinobi> makes sense
[15:27] <FKAShinobi> akik: I don't think I have to touch the first file at all, it's the .gitignore file.
[15:29] <akik> oh right
[15:29] <akik> even easier then
[15:31] <FKAShinobi> the files are not in /usr/bin though. How do I find that directory
[15:31] <akik> find / -name core.py
[16:02] <FKAShinobi> Can anyone recommend a log monitor? I would like to monitor my syslog for warnings and errors. I'm using monit, but I don't believe it monitors logs directly.
[16:05] <lotuspsychj3> FKAShinobi: leave a journalctl -f open to check your logs
[16:06] <leftyfb>  FKAShinobi https://serverfault.com/questions/673159/how-to-configure-monit-to-alert-me-when-anything-appears-in-syslog
[16:07] <FKAShinobi> lotuspsychj3: I'm looking for something that I can automate and send me an email if "something significant" happens. Something significant could be a warning/error, or perhaps match a regex
[16:08] <leftyfb> FKAShinobi: you're going to get a lot of noise, especially if this is a desktop
[16:09] <FKAShinobi> leftyfb: I'm figuring that out. My syslog is 3 GB after 7 days.
[16:10] <akik> FKAShinobi: did the patch work for deluge?
[16:10] <FKAShinobi> but I think the main culprit is fixed. Thanks akik!
[16:10] <leftyfb> FKAShinobi: then you have something causing a lot of noise on your system
[16:10] <akik> ok
[16:10] <FKAShinobi> rtkit-daemon.... what is that?
[16:11] <leftyfb> FKAShinobi: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/43iden/what_is_rtkitdaemon_in_ubuntu_processes/   first result on google for "rkit-daemon"
[16:14] <FKAShinobi> Thanks, I read that too. Still a bit unclear on what it actually does. Are the "real-time" permissions it's talking about mean dynamic permissions - meaning they can be granted and revoked by the service?
[16:15] <hiya> How to find out what is suddenly eating more battery than before?
[16:18] <FKAShinobi> hiya: maybe try running top. The higher the cpu usage, the more battery it will eat. If your on a laptop, maybe screen brightness.
[16:18] <leftyfb> hiya: before what?
[16:21] <hiya> FKAShinobi: leftyfb I just got a new laptop T16 gen1 AMD a couple of weeks ago; It has 86Wh battery, when I use to finish my 8h long shift my battery would be at 55-60% left, since last week, it is at ~40%, sudden drop of 15% minimum
[16:21] <hiya> I run Firefox, a java based spyware app for hours count, Telegram, a Terminal
[16:21] <hiya> Nothing else
[16:23] <oerheks> more apps, more power ..
[16:23] <FKAShinobi> hiya: What's changed? Did you update? turn up the screen brightness?
[16:23] <hiya> I always use Powersave profile from Gnome Settings, I have no changed anything.
[16:24] <hiya> oerheks: but I am using the same apps as before
[16:24] <hiya> FKAShinobi: I am doing nothing but ubuntu updates only
[16:24] <hiya> Screen brightness is always 1 point like before
[16:25] <oerheks> what do you do on firefox? static pages, youtube?
[16:25] <FKAShinobi> Is the battery performance continuing to drop? Once you start recharging them they do lose some performance.
[16:25] <oerheks> such small increase of power use is hard to detect, i guess it is just regular use
[16:25] <hiya> I did test a few file backup apps with their official appimage
[16:26] <hiya> Could it run some services in background?
[16:28] <hiya> apport-autoreport.service failed
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[16:30] <FKAShinobi> hiya: try the following to see your power in microwatts - cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/power_now
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[16:32] <hiya> 6018000
[16:39] <FKAShinobi> hiya: are you using wifi?
[16:40] <FKAShinobi> If so that may also contribute to a variance in power consumption.
[16:41] <hiya> yes
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[17:17] <FKAShinobi> I have an issue with the nvidia driver where after the system times out and goes to the lock screen it reverts from extended desktop mode to mirrored. Only 1 monitor is detected. The settings still show extended, so I must set to mirrored and cancel the result in order to switch it back. (or use xrandr)
[17:17] <FKAShinobi> This does not happen with the open source driver, but that driver leads to a lot of crashes.
[17:17] <FKAShinobi> Any ideas on that?
[17:39] <Alexey__> http://45.84.227.55:8080/temp/02.%20Mr.%20Credo%20-%20Cosa%20Nostra.mp3
[17:40] <leftyfb> Alexey__: can we help you with somrthing?
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[17:53] <Alexey__> http://45.84.227.55:8080/temp/6.%20Nightwish%20-%20Wishmaster.mp3
[17:54] <oerheks> Alexey__, ??? you are asked to stop spamming ubuntu channels.
[17:55] <oerheks> !coc | Alexey__
[17:55] <ubottu> Alexey__: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is the document that spells out etiquette in the Ubuntu community | http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/conduct | For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct | Watch http://static.screencasts.ubuntu.com/videos/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC.ogv
[17:55] <pi_> EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[17:55] <leftyfb> :/
[17:56] <oerheks> that is old, budu..
[17:57] <arraybolt3> Dang, spammy links everywhere.
[17:58] <arraybolt3> Meh, just for the sake of others in the room...
[17:58] <arraybolt3> !danger
[17:58] <ubottu> DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!
[17:58] <rbox> -rofl
[17:59] <arraybolt3> No way no how should you wget random stuff from a weird link and then install it. If that script is legitimate, the user will find it a normal way and verify its safety first.
[17:59] <tomreyn> pi_: please do not post random commands in here
[18:00] <leftyfb> they left immediately after joining
[18:00] <leftyfb> oh wait
[18:00] <pi_> sorry
[18:00] <leftyfb> pi_: why did you post that?
[18:01] <oerheks> pi_, xchat is dead. 🤣
[18:01] <pi_> i am sorry. i am beginner
[18:01] <leftyfb> pi_: do not run that script and do not run xchat
[18:01] <pi_> ok
[18:04] <pi_> what should I install instead of Xchat, please?
[18:05] <rbox> pi_: hexchat
[18:05] <oerheks> Hexchat is a clone, which is maintained.
[18:05] <arraybolt3> Hexchat is the successor.
[18:05] <leftyfb> pi_: what release of ubuntu are you running?
[18:05] <leftyfb> since xchat isn't even available in ubuntu, I'm curious as to how you're on IRC and how you're trying to install xchat
[18:06] <oerheks> +1
[18:07] <pi_> I'm using Debian Raspberry
[18:07] <oerheks> Then you are in the wrong channel.
[18:08] <tomreyn> i think oerheks meant to say you're welcome in this channel, just we won't be able to help with Debian or Raspberry here.
[18:09] <leftyfb> pi_: please seek support for your pi in #raspberrypi
[18:09] <arraybolt3> pi_: Though HexChat is available in Debian so you should still be able to get a more well-maintained IRC client on that, I think.
[18:09] <oerheks> you need to register with libera to enter #debian AFAIK
[18:10] <leftyfb> I can almost guarantee that aren't running Debian proper on the pi. More than likely RPiOS which is based on Debian
[18:11] <pi_> I apologize, I have no experience. Thanks, I greet you and leave the channel
[18:32] <jhutchins> Raspian?
[18:33] <jhutchins> Does ubuntu have an official pi build?
[18:33] <arraybolt3> jhutchins: Yes.
[18:33] <toddc> yes for 64bit Rpi
[18:34] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi standard desktop, server or core
[18:40] <flo_> hi
[18:41] <flo_> what is this?
[18:41] <akik> that was quick
[18:44] <tuxick> google can be very quick
[18:45] <tuxick> About 22.500.000 results (0,62 seconds)
[18:45] <tuxick> on that exact question
[19:18] <tomreyn> jatt: please see my private message
[19:35] <fatih> hi
[19:54] <muhammad> hello
[19:54] <oerheks> :-)
[19:54] <muhammad> Good
[19:55] <muhammad> IM-from-Dagestan
[19:55] <muhammad> @user
[19:56] <oerheks> hi muhammad, do you have an Ubuntu support issue?
[19:56] <muhammad> ?
[19:56] <muhammad> что?
[19:57] <muhammad> Not-oerheks)
[19:58] <leftyfb> muhammad: Это канал поддержки Ubuntu. Это только для поддержки вопросов и проблем. Если вы хотите вести общую дискуссию, пожалуйста, /присоединяйтесь к #ubuntu-discuss или #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:59] <muhammad> Здарова-я-как-бы-новичок-в-еще-в-Линукс)
[19:59] <muhammad> не-знаю-как-тут-все-устроено(
[19:59] <leftyfb> !ru | muhammad
[19:59] <ubottu> muhammad: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.
[20:23] <muhammad> elastic_dog
[21:03] <whiteduk3> hey guys
[21:40] <geosmile> is there support for ubuntu pro somewhere - my kernel crashes dont tell me what is wrong with the machine - not sure if its shitty drivers, or hw, or ... https://dpaste.org/eK4Xa#L6,8
[21:42] <oerheks> your hdd seems to have issues.
[21:44] <ravage> geosmile: start with a BIOS update https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-x570-plus/helpdesk_bios/?model2Name=TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS
[21:44] <ravage> if that does not help try the 5.19 HWE kernel that comes with jammy
[21:47] <toddc> you can also boot with a live disk to eliminate hardware issues. you can aslo test the hard drive with the built in disks tool
[21:48] <oerheks> and maybe it is docker,.. no way telling without the newest bios, to eleminate obvious problems
[22:15] <geosmile> ravage, it said "Beta BIOS" - so i decided not to try it?
[22:15] <geosmile> should i?
[22:15] <arraybolt3> geosmile: I wouldn't!
[22:16] <arraybolt3> geosmile: I'd start by trying a live USB - like oerheks mentioned, your HDD is throwing errors and that is always a bad thing. A live USB will show you if it's Ubuntu that's unstable, or something else.
[22:16] <oerheks> then use #2, 4408 ?
[22:17] <oerheks> or the one before that; '2. Fix AMD fTPM issue causes random stuttering."
[22:18] <geosmile> I've already run memtest86 on it for a couple of hours - said it Passed
[22:19] <geosmile> this crash only happens after around 6 hours of dual-nvidia-3090 max usage.
[22:19] <leftyfb> overheating?
[22:21] <geosmile> leftyfb, https://pasteboard.co/aoslfIo04Qne.png - temperature plot before the crash
[22:28] <tomreyn> 84°C is pretty warm. what we can tell from the limited logs you shared is that you have an outdated bios with known issues and your sata controller failed and needed to be reset.
[22:42] <SpeakerToMeat> Hi all....
[22:44] <p0indexter> hello
[22:46] <SpeakerToMeat> Question... I'm trying to upgrade a system from focal to jammy... it all seems to be going alright... but grub-efi-amd64-signed refuses to install. the postinst script fails, and checking the logs, it seems it's trying to install to an esp partiioon on a drive that's not there anymore.....
[22:47] <SpeakerToMeat> But I've checked all of etc (with grep even) and the disk is not referenced anywhere....
[22:47] <SpeakerToMeat> And I wonder, where can grub be getting that info from?
[22:47] <SpeakerToMeat> I've culled all old kernels, and rebuilt all initrd images just in case
[22:48] <Jeremy31> SpeakerToMeat: What does this show in terminal>  mokutil --sb
[22:49] <SpeakerToMeat> System doesn't support secure boot.... so that package is not needed even......
[22:49] <SpeakerToMeat> I'll try to install the unsigned version, see if it does the same
[22:50] <SpeakerToMeat> It does the same
[22:50] <SpeakerToMeat> "mount: /var/lib/grub/esp: special device /dev/disk/by-id/ata-FUJITSU_MHZ2120BH_G2_K615T85292UB-part1 does not exist."
[22:51] <SpeakerToMeat> yeah, that drive was removed from the system....
[22:51] <SpeakerToMeat> A while ago
[22:52] <tomreyn> debconf-show grub-pc
[22:52] <tomreyn> sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[22:54] <SpeakerToMeat> There we go...
[22:54] <SpeakerToMeat> thanks
[22:55] <SpeakerToMeat> Fun...
[22:55] <SpeakerToMeat> "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: grub-pc is broken or not fully installed"
[22:56] <tomreyn> then purge it, it's for bios installs, not uefi
[22:57] <SpeakerToMeat> Ok
[23:00] <SpeakerToMeat> Purged, debconf shows nothing for grub-pc, but the grub efi install still tries to install to that disk...
[23:02] <tomreyn> then try dpkg-reconfiguring grub-efi*, too
[23:03] <SpeakerToMeat> I did. also grub-common which is co-owner of the debconf entry as I see it on the config.dat file... still the value hasn't changed
[23:04] <SpeakerToMeat> I'm wondering how terrible it'd be to edit config.dat by hand
[23:04] <tomreyn> is /boot/efi mounted ?
[23:05] <SpeakerToMeat> Yes.
[23:05] <tomreyn> https://www.ullright.org/ullWiki/show/ubuntu-20-04-apt-error-mount-var-lib-grub-esp-special-device-dev-sda15-does-not-exist-dpkg-error-processing-package-grub-efi-amd64-signed-configure-installed-grub-efi-amd64-signed-package-post-installation-subprocess-returned-status-32 lists many commands for inspecting and modifying the debconf db
[23:06] <SpeakerToMeat> thanks
[23:07] <SpeakerToMeat> I must admit I decided to backup config.dat and edit with vim before I saw your link... grub-efi-amd64 has just installed alright
[23:07] <SpeakerToMeat> Thanks
[23:08] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[23:09] <SpeakerToMeat> Now lets finish this upgrade
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[23:52] <massuse> Добро пожаловать в Видеочат !
[23:52] <massuse> WELCOME TO THE VIDEOCHAT !!!!
[23:52] <massuse> https://t.me/dchub1?videochat=953a3de852e0143997
[23:54] <arraybolt3> massuse: Please do not spam links in Ubuntu channels (or any channel where they're unwelcome).
[23:54] <arraybolt3> thanks krytarik
[23:55] <krytarik> I hope they get k-lined soon enough anyway. :P