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| stuartlangridge | The screensaver doesn't turn off my screen after it's been running for a while, despite having the power manager settings saying that it should. I can manually turn the screen off with "xset dpms force off" (so DPMS works) but if I do that, the screen turns off for a second and then the screensaver turns on, which turns the screen back on. Is there | 15:01 |
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| stuartlangridge | some way I should be fixing this? I'm running 22.04. | 15:01 |
| gnrp | stuartlangridge: There are two settings for this. One is the energy settings, the other one in the screensaver settings. Did you check both? | 15:02 |
| stuartlangridge | hm. I didn't know about energy settings | 15:02 |
| stuartlangridge | where will I find the energy settings? They don't seem to be in the settings manager | 15:03 |
| stuartlangridge | (that is: a search in the settings manager for "energy" doesn't show anything) | 15:03 |
| gnrp | "power manager" or so? | 15:03 |
| stuartlangridge | ah, the power manager settings are the ones I set | 15:04 |
| gnrp | sorry, cannot help with that, I'm not on an English system | 15:04 |
| gnrp | ah, then search for screensaver | 15:04 |
| stuartlangridge | I don't think there's anything about screen power in the screensaver settings; there's just a button which leads to the power manager settings? | 15:04 |
| gnrp | on th esecond tab, what does it say after what time it is activated? | 15:07 |
| gnrp | ah, sorry, I mis-read your initial question anyway | 15:07 |
| deadrom | hi | 15:08 |
| deadrom | odd question: why is the cursor in Terminal sometimes a box, sometimes a square? https://paste.pics/205868798151ebeaaa8995d9600aac73 | 15:09 |
| deadrom | defocus/focus window changes it usually but sometimes not. minor cosmetic bug I think | 15:11 |
| stuartlangridge | My current screensaver and power manager settings: https://i.imgur.com/qo8zdeN.png | 15:16 |
| stuartlangridge | basically: | 15:17 |
| stuartlangridge | Screensaver > Lock Screen > Lock the screen after the screensaver is active for [8] minutes (I think this is working ok) | 15:17 |
| stuartlangridge | Power Manager > Display > Blank after [10] minutes, Put to sleep after [11] minutes, Switch off after [12] minutes (these are not working; the screensaver comes on, and stays on forever without the screen ever switching off) | 15:17 |
| gnrp | stuartlangridge: If you put that setting to 0 actually? | 15:20 |
| gnrp | ah, no, sorry. I mean, the "Regard the computer as idle" setting. If you set it to 10, the same as the blanking? | 15:20 |
| gnrp | and the other screen saver setting to 0 | 15:20 |
| gnrp | or actually, what is your goal? You want the screen blank and the screensavre to be active, but locking, after 10 minutes=? | 15:21 |
| gnrp | deadrom: Full is the one that is focussed, empty the unfocussed one | 15:21 |
| gnrp | if you put e.g. the two next to each other and open a third window, both would go empty | 15:21 |
| stuartlangridge | gnrp: so, what I would like to happen is that after a few minutes of idling, the screensaver turns on, and then a few minutes after that, the screen locker is enabled and the monitor turns off. (The idea here is that when the screensaver turns on, I can wiggle the mouse and get my screen back, without having to put in my password, but if I leave it | 15:24 |
| stuartlangridge | alone for longer than that, the monitor turns off and then to get back in I need to enter a password). | 15:24 |
| gnrp | then maybe set the screensavre to active for five minutes (after idle), the locking after 0 minutes, and the other settings to stay. What happens then? | 15:25 |
| gnrp | ah, and btw, do you maybe have also some GPU driver software that coul dhave its own settings? I had this with NV GPUs | 15:25 |
| stuartlangridge | I don't think I have extra gpu driver software? I haven't installed any deliberately. I have an AMD card. | 15:27 |
| stuartlangridge | I have the screensaver active after 5 minutes of idle; this is right. I then have it set to lock 8 minutes after that (so that the screensaver is on but not locked between idle minute 5 and idle minute 13). In power management, it's set to "blank after 10 minutes" (sleep after 11, switch off after 12), but it doesn't say when it starts counting | 15:29 |
| stuartlangridge | that 10 minutes? | 15:29 |
| gnrp | it should start from the idling moment on | 15:29 |
| gnrp | I don't actually know... but my guess would be that probably the screensaver might be a non-idle application so the power management does not take over? | 15:30 |
| stuartlangridge | ok. So, if you do "xset dpms force off", and it turns your monitor off, does the screensaver then start and turn your monitor back on? | 15:30 |
| stuartlangridge | mine does, and that's what I want to fix, and I don't know how | 15:30 |
| stuartlangridge | if the screensaver counts as non-idle and that keeps the screen alive then that's... surely wrongly designed? :) | 15:31 |
| stuartlangridge | I'm happy to file a bug about this somewhere, but I don't know where that should be. https://xubuntu.org/help/ doesn't mention any bug filing. | 15:32 |
| gnrp | ah, and btw, is there maybe a setting for this screensaver you chose? | 15:34 |
| gnrp | (the settings button below the list of screensavers) | 15:35 |
| stuartlangridge | there is, but there's nothing in there about power management or displays; it lets me set the frame rate and whether there's an eye showing | 15:37 |
| gnrp | maybe try a different screen saver and see whether the behavior is reproducable | 15:39 |
| gnrp | this way you could nail down whether it's the screen saver or a power seetings thing | 15:39 |
| stuartlangridge | ah, it happens with all screen savers, sadly. (I was using the coloured squares one which is the only one that was there, before I installed the xscreensaver-* packages to get the others.) | 15:43 |
| kiki_h | I accidentally deleted the launcher. Is there a way I can get it back on screen so I can access my programs and stuff not only through the terminal? Left click doesn't help. | 19:35 |
| kiki_h | (right click) | 19:37 |
| matteo_ | hi | 19:56 |
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