=== keypushe- is now known as keypusher === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam [15:01] The screensaver doesn't turn off my screen after it's been running for a while, despite having the power manager settings saying that it should. I can manually turn the screen off with "xset dpms force off" (so DPMS works) but if I do that, the screen turns off for a second and then the screensaver turns on, which turns the screen back on. Is there [15:01] some way I should be fixing this? I'm running 22.04. [15:02] stuartlangridge: There are two settings for this. One is the energy settings, the other one in the screensaver settings. Did you check both? [15:02] hm. I didn't know about energy settings [15:03] where will I find the energy settings? They don't seem to be in the settings manager [15:03] (that is: a search in the settings manager for "energy" doesn't show anything) [15:03] "power manager" or so? [15:04] ah, the power manager settings are the ones I set [15:04] sorry, cannot help with that, I'm not on an English system [15:04] ah, then search for screensaver [15:04] I don't think there's anything about screen power in the screensaver settings; there's just a button which leads to the power manager settings? [15:07] on th esecond tab, what does it say after what time it is activated? [15:07] ah, sorry, I mis-read your initial question anyway [15:08] hi [15:09] odd question: why is the cursor in Terminal sometimes a box, sometimes a square? https://paste.pics/205868798151ebeaaa8995d9600aac73 [15:11] defocus/focus window changes it usually but sometimes not. minor cosmetic bug I think [15:16] My current screensaver and power manager settings: https://i.imgur.com/qo8zdeN.png [15:17] basically: [15:17] Screensaver > Lock Screen > Lock the screen after the screensaver is active for [8] minutes (I think this is working ok) [15:17] Power Manager > Display > Blank after [10] minutes, Put to sleep after [11] minutes, Switch off after [12] minutes (these are not working; the screensaver comes on, and stays on forever without the screen ever switching off) [15:20] stuartlangridge: If you put that setting to 0 actually? [15:20] ah, no, sorry. I mean, the "Regard the computer as idle" setting. If you set it to 10, the same as the blanking? [15:20] and the other screen saver setting to 0 [15:21] or actually, what is your goal? You want the screen blank and the screensavre to be active, but locking, after 10 minutes=? [15:21] deadrom: Full is the one that is focussed, empty the unfocussed one [15:21] if you put e.g. the two next to each other and open a third window, both would go empty [15:24] gnrp: so, what I would like to happen is that after a few minutes of idling, the screensaver turns on, and then a few minutes after that, the screen locker is enabled and the monitor turns off. (The idea here is that when the screensaver turns on, I can wiggle the mouse and get my screen back, without having to put in my password, but if I leave it [15:24] alone for longer than that, the monitor turns off and then to get back in I need to enter a password). [15:25] then maybe set the screensavre to active for five minutes (after idle), the locking after 0 minutes, and the other settings to stay. What happens then? [15:25] ah, and btw, do you maybe have also some GPU driver software that coul dhave its own settings? I had this with NV GPUs [15:27] I don't think I have extra gpu driver software? I haven't installed any deliberately. I have an AMD card. [15:29] I have the screensaver active after 5 minutes of idle; this is right. I then have it set to lock 8 minutes after that (so that the screensaver is on but not locked between idle minute 5 and idle minute 13). In power management, it's set to "blank after 10 minutes" (sleep after 11, switch off after 12), but it doesn't say when it starts counting [15:29] that 10 minutes? [15:29] it should start from the idling moment on [15:30] I don't actually know... but my guess would be that probably the screensaver might be a non-idle application so the power management does not take over? [15:30] ok. So, if you do "xset dpms force off", and it turns your monitor off, does the screensaver then start and turn your monitor back on? [15:30] mine does, and that's what I want to fix, and I don't know how [15:31] if the screensaver counts as non-idle and that keeps the screen alive then that's... surely wrongly designed? :) [15:32] I'm happy to file a bug about this somewhere, but I don't know where that should be. https://xubuntu.org/help/ doesn't mention any bug filing. [15:34] ah, and btw, is there maybe a setting for this screensaver you chose? [15:35] (the settings button below the list of screensavers) [15:37] there is, but there's nothing in there about power management or displays; it lets me set the frame rate and whether there's an eye showing [15:39] maybe try a different screen saver and see whether the behavior is reproducable [15:39] this way you could nail down whether it's the screen saver or a power seetings thing [15:43] ah, it happens with all screen savers, sadly. (I was using the coloured squares one which is the only one that was there, before I installed the xscreensaver-* packages to get the others.) [19:35] I accidentally deleted the launcher. Is there a way I can get it back on screen so I can access my programs and stuff not only through the terminal? Left click doesn't help. [19:37] (right click) [19:56] hi