| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:24 |
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| sgmoore[m] | morning | 13:41 |
| sgmoore[m] | Snaps update: The extension is done and will be merged. Though we still have to wait for a release. My frameworks ppa for focal to do security updates has been a battle due to random dependency failures, but it builds fine in a focal chroot.. anyway, finally got qtbase to build, so starting the rest of qt now, then frameworks. This has been quite a lot of work! I need to come up with a better solution for next core update. | 13:41 |
| ahoneybun[m] | heyo BluesKaj and sgmoore (@sgmoore:kde.org) good to see you folks | 13:54 |
| BluesKaj | 'morning ahoneybun[m]. nice to see you too | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | brb, gotta reboot | 14:01 |
| sgmoore[m] | morning | 14:09 |
| arraybolt3 | mmikowski: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/samsung-releases-firmware-fix-for-rapid-failure-issue-in-new-990-pro-ssds/ Not sure if this will effect some Kubuntu Focus systems or not, but you may want to be aware of that. (FWIW I just tried to update my 970 EVO and it was already on the latest firmware so I'm guessing this likely doesn't affect at least certain 1 TB XE systems.) | 20:27 |
| ahoneybun[m] | I don't think I have seen any. | 20:27 |
| mmikowski | arraybolt3: Thank you! We actually are holding back on 990 adoption for this reason. We also benched internally, and the 990 Pro is only faster for some PCIe 4 systems; in others, it's actually slower. | 21:44 |
| mmikowski | So at this point, no KFocus systems "in the wild" have 980 or 990 SSDs. | 21:44 |
| arraybolt3 | Ah, nice. | 21:44 |
| arraybolt3 | Sounds like you have this figured out then. Thanks for letting me know! | 21:45 |
| mmikowski | You're welcome Aaron. Good to see you, btw! | 21:45 |
| arraybolt3 | Thanks! Gonna finish a final bit of work in LXQt and then probably finish up the work needed on the theme change bug. | 21:46 |
| arraybolt3 | (Just need to find a minimal delta that fixes the glitch, and ensure it works reliably on Kubuntu 22.04, then I can MR it and maybe even get an upload sponsored into Ubuntu. | 21:46 |
| mmikowski | We still have to update the BIOS on the 990 we have in house; you've probably heard they lose 1% health every day. So in 100 days, they're all "used up" | 21:47 |
| mmikowski | Thank Aaron! | 21:47 |
| arraybolt3 | Sheesh. DIdn't know it was that bad. | 21:47 |
| arraybolt3 | Good to know. | 21:48 |
| arraybolt3 | mmikowski: I wonder if a Secure Erase would undo the "damage" assuming it's a firmware glitch and not real wear. Anyway, just a though. | 21:48 |
| arraybolt3 | *thought | 21:48 |
| mmikowski | It almost definitely depends on usage, so ours is currently powered-off and set aside. | 21:48 |
| mmikowski | The reports now are the firmware will stop the counter, but does not reset it. | 21:49 |
| mmikowski | According to the press, that is not possible. | 21:49 |
| mmikowski | Ars Technica, IIRC. | 21:49 |
| arraybolt3 | Dang. That stinks. Usually a Secure Erase command will force-reset an SSDs protection mechanisms and make a read-only locked SSD "unlock", I wonder if the 990 Pro is different. | 21:50 |
| mmikowski | Hmm, I don't know. Hopefully, I won't have to know :) | 21:50 |
| arraybolt3 | +1 | 21:50 |
| mmikowski | We held back on the 980/990s because we found the 980 PCIe 4 replacement had a different performance profile, but everything beyond peak transfer speeds was a mixed bag, so we didn't upgrade. | 21:52 |
| mmikowski | The TLC memory plus DRAM-less design was a problem. | 21:53 |
| mmikowski | The 990 Pro promises much better, but now there's that firmware issue. So we are on hold there. | 21:53 |
| mmikowski | If we ship any soon, we will need to test and upgrade the bios. | 21:53 |
| arraybolt3 | Makes sense. | 21:54 |
| mmikowski | If we had shipped, we would have had to create a focusrx tool to update it. Thankfully, we don't have to :) | 21:54 |
| arraybolt3 | As a hint, I attempted to boot the firmware ISO for the 970 EVO on this XE and it *did not boot*. I don't know if the 990 behaves the same, but at least some of Samsung's firmware update ISOs are wonky. | 21:54 |
| arraybolt3 | Thankfully you can apparently extract the updater tool from the ISO and run it on (K)Ubuntu. | 21:54 |
| arraybolt3 | Should it come in handy, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1348219/how-to-update-samsung-ssd-firmware-from-ubuntu | 21:55 |
| mmikowski | Hmm, interesting! Yeah, the nvme command can load a firmware slot. | 21:55 |
| arraybolt3 | The Samsung ISO just boots to a black screen, but I was able to run the "fumagician" bit inside on the KFocus 22.04 ISO and it worked just fine (at least to tell me that my firmware was up-to-date). | 21:56 |
| mmikowski | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/02/samsung-releases-firmware-fix-for-rapid-failure-issue-in-new-990-pro-ssds/ | 21:56 |
| mmikowski | ^^ And there's the problem :) | 21:57 |
| mmikowski | Thanks arraybolt3! Those I very handy. I will add to the ticket. | 21:57 |
| mmikowski | arraybolt3: Sorry to trouble you, but is this the source for fumagician? https://github.com/chrivers/samsung-firmware-magic | 22:01 |
| arraybolt3 | I don't know, I'll check. I extracted fumagician out of the ISO directly from Samsung. | 22:01 |
| arraybolt3 | mmikowski: That's a decrypter for the firmware blob, I don't think that's helpful. | 22:02 |
| arraybolt3 | fumagician is a tool from Samsung - it's the updater inside the firmware update ISO itself. I assume it's proprietary. | 22:03 |
| mmikowski | hmm, where do you get it? | 22:05 |
| arraybolt3 | https://semiconductor.samsung.com/consumer-storage/support/tools/ | 22:05 |
| mmikowski | download from samsung right | 22:05 |
| arraybolt3 | Under the Firmware section. | 22:05 |
| mmikowski | ahh, very nice | 22:05 |
| arraybolt3 | (Interesting that they encrypt the firmware blob, but hey, as long as the SSD works I'm happy :D) | 22:05 |
| mmikowski | Thanks so much! Adding all that to ticket now! | 22:05 |
| arraybolt3 | Glad to help! | 22:06 |
| mmikowski | Cheers! | 22:06 |
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