[10:12] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #2844](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2844): Migrate BasicIdleHub to use Synchronised<T>
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[10:24] <Saviq> alan_g is this the breakage you were experiencing? NB this is 22.10
[10:25] <alan_g[m]> No, that's "just" SDL2 not respecting fullscreen (which has been forever
[10:25] <Saviq> ACK
[10:26] <alan_g[m]> )
[10:41] <Saviq> RAOF (he/they) there's another reason why wlcs won't migrate:
[10:41] <Saviq> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wlcs/1.5.0-1/+build/25533553
[10:42] <Saviq> Did you not bring https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/263/files over?
[10:59] <Saviq> alan_g I got a live Lunar desktop + stable ubuntu-frame and neverputt from the archive. Both nested on X11 and on a VT, `frame-it neverputt --fullscreen` #WFM¿?
[11:00] <Saviq> (on VirtualBox, but doubt that matters at all)
[11:02] <Saviq> I do have older libsdl built for 23.04 if you want a try
 "Did you not bring https://github..." <- Oh wlcs is already a sync from Debian?
[11:05] <Saviq> sunweaver hey, would you please apply this to wlcs in Debian? Otherwise it won't build on ppc64el on gcc-12:
[11:05] <Saviq> https://github.com/MirServer/wlcs/pull/263/files
[11:46] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths closed [pull request #2839](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2839): Reimplement idle_inhibit_unstable_v1
[11:48] <alan_g[m]> Saviq, if you've the headspace: https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2842 looks good
 "alan_g I got a live Lunar..." <- alan_g any pointers on how to reproduce?
[12:55] <alan_g[m]> Which problem are you trying to reproduce?
[12:55] <Saviq> The SDL2 on 23.04, works for me
[12:57] <alan_g[m]> Mouse input? Enabling ible_inhibit not crashing server? Closing window not killing client?
[12:57] <alan_g[m]> FWIW I've simply been running Miriway
[12:57] <Saviq> That may be half of my problem - I thought SDL2 is broken completely on 23.04?
[12:58] <alan_g[m]> Well, try using the mouse to reconfigure the window size
[12:59] <alan_g[m]> (Lunchtime here - BBIAB)
[13:00] <Saviq> I'll report back on https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2841
[13:13] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq added question to [issue #2841](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2841): On 23.04, SDL2 mouse input doesn't work
[15:02] <alan_g[m]> neverputt --fullscreen works fullscreen for you?
[15:02] <Saviq> Under Frame, I believe so - but not under Miriway…
[15:03] <Saviq> Well… it… sometimes… changes behaviour…
[15:05] <Saviq> Can confirm Meta+Space making it work in Miriway
[15:06] <Saviq> But since it's the same behaviour in 22.10 (and more importantly, not in Frame), I think it's not a regression we need to stress about
[15:06] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #2842](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2842): (Sophie's) reimplementation of idle_inhibit_unstable_v1
[15:06] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] closed [issue #2838](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2838): [Wayland] idle_inhibit_unstable_v1 is badly broken
[15:06] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] closed [issue #2836](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2836): Enabling zwp_idle_inhibit_manager_v1 causes Mir to crash with some applications
[15:06] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq removed question from [issue #2841](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2841): On 23.04, SDL2 mouse input doesn't work
[15:08] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq edited [issue #2841](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2841): SDL2 mouse input doesn't work reliably
[15:09] <alan_g[m]> I don't have 22.10 around to check. You see the same behaviour there? (But not on 22.04 & 20.04)
[15:10] <Saviq> I'll check <22.10 soon
[15:12] <alan_g[m]> Well, I don't see it on 20.04 or 22.04 so it was 22.10 I was wondering about
[15:12] <Saviq> Yes, I can see it on 22.10
[15:12] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths edited [issue #2841](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2841): [22.10, 23.04] SDL2 mouse input doesn't work reliably
[15:13] <alan_g[m]> Does the team think we want a 2.12.1 with #2824?
[15:14] <Saviq> You mean so we get it into Lunar?
[15:15] <alan_g[m]> And into Frame/stable
[15:15] <Saviq> IMO 24.04 is a more important target, 23.10 can wait for a 2.13
[15:15] <Saviq> Same, IMO Frame can wait for 2.13
[15:15] <alan_g[m]> Also Debian
[15:16] <Saviq> Haven't seen anyone complaining about it
[15:17] <alan_g[m]> The complaint was #2824 - AFAIK the first time anyone tried to use idle-inhibit
[15:17] <alan_g[m]> (With a real world client that is)
[15:18] <Saviq> Ah :) https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2824
[15:18] <Saviq> Wrong #
[15:20] <Saviq> https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2842 might be a more plausible candidate for a point release
[15:20] <alan_g[m]> #2836
[15:20] <alan_g[m]> C&P did something weird
[15:20] <alan_g[m]> So problem: #2824
[15:20] <alan_g[m]> Bugfix: #2824
[15:21] <Saviq> #2824 is output names :) #2842 is bugfix, #2836 is problem
[15:21] <alan_g[m]> Dammit what is C&P doing?!
[15:22] <alan_g[m]> Yes, Something got screwed in my pasting.
[15:25] <alan_g[m]> So: does the team think we want a 2.12.1 with #2842, #2836 is problem report
[15:25] <Saviq> I'm +1 on getting that out there sooner than later
[15:26] <alan_g[m]> This might also be considered: https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2840
[15:30] <Saviq> I reproduced the neverputt mouse issue on live 22.04.1
[15:34] <alan_g[m]> A good job we're leaving that snap on core20 then. Weird
[15:41] <Saviq> But yeah, didn't reproduce on 20.04.5
[15:44] <alan_g[m]> Other possible candidates for a bugfix release: #2791, #2802, 2804, #2817, #2821
[16:38] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** Saviq edited [issue #2841](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/issues/2841): 22.04+ SDL2 mouse input doesn't work reliably
[16:57] <Saviq> Talk tomorrow o/