[00:18] I am trying to fix the broken boot process of my old drive that has Ubuntu 20.04 on it -- a black screen appears in place of the login menu on boot. Anyway, I have chrooterd into the old filesystem to do this but am stuck on this error: 'apt install' returns "Errors were encountered while processing install-info", How should I fix this broken [00:19] package? Here is a copy of the full command line output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3749MZhM6x/ [00:29] /usr/sbin/update-info-dir: 52: rm: not found [00:29] ooooo this doesn't look fun [00:30] cobraeriko: maybe try apt install --reinstall coreutils and see if that helps? [00:30] i'm not sure if apt will even try [00:30] sanold, indeed not lol it's been a huge headache [00:31] sarnold, I get the same error [00:32] :( [00:32] In case it helps, "apt install --reinstall install-info" returns this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mndrdFrpSM/ [00:33] cripes that's weird too [00:33] check dmesg output? [00:34] sarnold, I'm kind of a newbie to linux. How do I check dmesg output? [00:35] cobraeriko: if you run dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 that'll paste it to a pastebin site and give you an url to share [00:35] cobraeriko: it's easier than copy-pasting it all into the ubuntu pastebin anyway :) [00:35] it might be a bit overwhelming if you're not used to reading it [00:36] this is the return https://termbin.com/cejy [00:37] I normally jump right ot the end and start reading backwards [00:38] nice, there's a fair amount of annoying noise but not the disk errors I feared [00:38] cobraeriko: try: cd ; apt download coreutils ; dpkg -i ./coreutils*deb [00:43] hey all [00:43] hey hassletime [00:43] how are you sarnold [00:43] sarnold, I get this in return https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cthCqHCRv2/ (tried to nc it but didnt show everything) [00:44] not bad not bad, enjoying a freak snow flurry :) you? [00:44] well its raining where i am :P [00:44] cobraeriko: awesome, promising -- try apt install -f and see how it goes? [00:44] hassletime: that's much less fun [00:44] correct [00:45] im waiting to get out and do some gardening [00:45] :D [00:45] so yea not alot to do atm [00:45] but play around on oc [00:45] pc [00:46] sarnold, I get the same error https://termbin.com/m25rz [00:46] i also have some carolina reapers to start :) [00:46] just got some from the STaTES!! [00:46] woot woot [00:47] growing them for fun not to eat [00:49] cobraeriko: that's just so *confusing* [00:49] ive got other chillis i prefer to eat [00:49] that arnt as got [00:49] hot [00:50] sarnold, for what it's worth I've also tried "dpkg --configure -a" and "apt --fix-broken install" [00:50] to no avail [00:50] cobraeriko: what happens with /usr/bin/rm --help ? or /bin/rm --help ? [00:50] hassletime: too spicy for me, that's for sure :) [00:51] there arnt too many people that eat the reapers for enjoyment lol [00:52] with both I get the man for rm (is that how you say it? that menu for the package) [00:52] hassletime: just curious - did you get the peppers from Fort Mill, SC ?? [00:52] cobraeriko: "usage"; the manpages are something else, 'man rm' shows them [00:53] sarnold, thanks good to know [00:53] cobraeriko: how about "rm --help" ? [00:53] get the same thing [00:53] willyg_cos, i cant remember there where certified reapers i dont have the packet now ..they were full chillis not seeds [00:53] i took the seeds out of them [00:54] sarnold is there a way to purge this install-info package and reinstall it? [00:56] cobraeriko: oh that might be worth a try, yeah [00:56] cobraeriko: sudo apt purge install-info [00:57] cobraeriko: that'll suggest a few more packages to delete. you almost certainly don't actually care about either info or install-info (I detest info format so much) -- but ubuntu-standard is important for upgrades. so once it's gone, try: apt install ubuntu-standard and see how it goes [00:57] then after, sudo apt install install-info? oh nvm you answered my question [00:58] may be a stupid question but should I apt update first [00:58] ? [01:01] apt install apt install ubuntu-standard [01:01] returned the same error [01:04] cobraeriko: I'm 100% out of ideas :( [01:08] sarnold, I appreciate your help nonetheless [01:10] cobraeriko: if you've still got patience to deal with this, maybe ubuntu-bug install-info -- and copy-paste these into the bug report? I don't actually have good hopes for that getting traction, but maybe .. [01:12] cobraeriko, culd it be that your /bin/sh link points to some weird shell ? [01:13] dude [01:13] cobraeriko: namei -l /bin/sh ? :) [01:14] (totally wild guess 🙂 ) [01:15] ogra, how would I test that? [01:15] see sarnold's command above [01:15] sarnold, thanks for the suggestion [01:17] orga, here's what I get https://termbin.com/6gcw2 [01:17] dang. that's normal enough. it was a *really* great idea. [01:18] yeah ... [01:18] Might it have to do with my /etc/environment ? [01:18] did you fiddle with it ? [01:18] at this point, I'm grasping at straws so I'll try anything lol [01:18] orga no sir [01:19] i mean, why would you expect tha file to fix anyhing unless yu have changed it [01:20] orga, oh I thought you meant /bin/sh [01:20] no, /etc/environment [01:24] well looking at it I may have added the "PATH="/usr/local/texlive/2020/bin/x86_64-linux" somehow when I was configuring texlive. [01:24] here's my /etc/environment https://termbin.com/tesg [01:26] oh well that's curious. I don't know if I'd expect that to pollute the runtime of your apt commands or not. (I had you run the 'rm --help' test to try to help sort that out, and it worked okay..) [01:26] (and I mean configuring texlive before it crashed and subsequently stopped booting properly. That said I don't remember exactly what I was doingat that moment but I know I was doing some config of texlive around that time at least) [01:26] just a shot in the dark [01:27] what does echo $PATH output? [01:28] it outputs "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/snap/bin" [01:28] (I mean, most of your pastes look like your PATH ought to be working..) [01:28] *nod* [01:30] sarnold, in the long output of that command you had me run earlier, I noticed these errors. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s8HhKcmHG6/ Might that be a clue to anything? [01:31] (again I'm reaching) [01:35] cobraeriko: those sorts of things tend to bust suspend/resume, fan speeds, that sort of thing. it's probably not related [01:35] sarnold, yea figured [01:37] I'm practically pulling my hair out over the wall I've hit with an "experiment" involving EOL Ubuntu [01:38] webchat82: What's it doing? [01:38] Upgrading from 10 to 12 seems easier said than done. Going through do-release-upgrade results in packages apparently being downloaded multiple times, then leading to a large list of "Hash Sum Mismatch" [01:38] some ideas: is there a way to reinstall ubuntu while preserving my apps, settings and other data? [01:39] webchat82: You're having to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04? OK, start with the scenario. What's the end goal here? [01:39] To see how far I can go upgrading from the oldest version to the newest [01:40] Funny thing is, I've seen a few videos from just a few years ago and the people there are having a much easier time than I am [01:40] webchat82: Right, but are you doing this just because, or are you trying to rescue a legacy system? === jesopo is now known as jess [01:40] Yeah, it's basically just because, ha ha [01:41] Ah, OK. EOL releases are off-topic here, but... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades this page at the very bottom has some release-specific instructions for releases that old. Perhaps they are the key to jumping the hurdle. [01:42] I was afraid of that. And yeah, I tried most of the things there, didn't help [01:43] Crud. You might find some people who are interested in this in #ubuntu-offtopic, we don't care if EOL stuff is discussed there and you might find someone knowledgable. [01:43] * webchat82 thumbs up [01:43] Oh, the MOTD there says "This is not a *support* channel, for Ubuntu or other things" [01:44] webchat82: Right but you're not asking for support, your discussing a fun experiment. (At least that's my take on it.) [01:44] True [01:45] Would it be worthwhile to run "sudo apt-get build-dep"? [01:48] webchat82: are you by chance using apt-cacher-ng? it is a frequent source of hash mismatches [01:49] I don't think so? [01:49] sarnold, nope [01:50] cobraeriko: build-dep is used to install a handful of packages used for building a specific package; I don't think it'd help here [01:52] sarnold, ok I tried to remove install-info and did thus https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mHW5r24mh6/ [01:54] now how should I reinstall, just apt install install-info? [01:54] probably apt install --reinstall install-info [01:56] grrr, same error. Would it have to do with my package repositories being bad? [01:58] hey arraybolt3 [02:00] cobraeriko: just how 'bad' are we talking? :) [02:02] Would this answer that? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KfNFWvqjCJ/ [02:04] holy moly this is all over the place :) hehe [02:06] sarnold, yup [02:07] I'd really hope that something as basic as 'coreutils' isn't stomped over by some of those, but this is mixing content from eighteen publishers, give or take, across four different operating systems [02:16] in a wee bit bored atm [02:16] what to do what to do [02:19] well I've just about given up with fixing the boot of this drive. The problem seems intractable. I think I'll go another track and reinstall all my old apps and manually rsync all my old settings and configurations as needed. [02:20] cobraeriko: I'd like to suggest that you might be better served with different VMs or LXD containers for the ten different things this computer does ;) [02:20] hey quick question [02:21] why is there apt-get installand apt install [02:21] ^ cross-posted from #linux [02:22] thanks for the suggestion, sarnold. how about LVM? would that fit the bill. (I'm still new to all this) === sig is now known as bebop [02:23] cobraeriko: LVM is for making disk storage more flexible; it's handy enough (I vastly prefer zfs, but other people prefer LVM) -- it's a different kind of tool entirely [02:27] I have an issue with a fresh install of Ubuntu server. The top 10% of the screen is black. This happened in the installer and it happens with the full install. Maybe 75% of the boots cause the black bar at the top. [02:28] this sounds more like a hardware issue / loose cable or something really. [02:28] The OS thinks there's valid screen there. I couldn't do the install with the black bar there. When it boots, the login prompt will be behind the black bar and I'll have to hit enter a few times before I see the login prompt. [02:29] Hmm.. I do have to use a mini-displayport to VGA adapter to get a display. [02:30] try reseatcing those connectors, all of them [02:31] Oh right. That makes sense. So another question. I want to bring over the KVM virtual machine with Ubuntu Server that I had on my old drive to the new one. This server has a flask web-app with reverse-proxy that serves a website. Now, can I simply clone this VM to the new drive? Would I have to make a new static ip address for the cloned machine? [02:32] tomreyn, OH! I should point out that grub displays fine and so does the first couple of seconds of the boot process, before the resolution changes. [02:33] cobraeriko: I've never actually tried to move vms from one machine to another, but maybe virsh dump on one machine, virsh define on the other machine .. [02:33] sarnold, I'll look into that. Thanks again for all your help [02:34] Reseated all the connectors. Even tried one of the other mini-displayport connections [02:34] fluid: try adding 'nomodeset' to the kernel command line [02:34] cobraeriko: you can *live migrate* vms, but I don't know if that's easier or harder :D [02:35] cobraeriko: .. it's terrifying, anyway :) [02:35] yea, there's options. I'll have to do my homework. [02:35] !kernelparam | fluid [02:35] fluid: To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters [02:36] !nomodeset | fluid [02:36] fluid: Systems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there. [02:36] on a line by itself? [02:36] sarnold: tell me about it lol [02:37] fluid: no, the "linux" line. it's well descibed on this page, you just need to read [02:37] sorry, just got to that part [02:37] tomreyn, that worked! Thanks! [02:38] omg I'm so glad to hear that :) [02:38] my suggestion was going to be pretty gross [02:38] fluid: nice, i wasn't so [02:38] sure [02:38] sarnold: what would have been yours? [02:39] tomreyn: http://billauer.co.il/blog/2020/08/linux-override-fake-edid/ [02:39] tomreyn: I think I'd have even less confidence in it working than you did with nomodeset :) [02:40] sarnold, yeah, that doesn't look fun [02:41] sarnold: nice idea / find, though, [02:41] but i think this would not apply to ubuntu server installer, or would it? [02:41] i mean, no X [02:41] oh :/ yeah [02:42] drm itself initializes earlier, though, so not sure. === docmax is now known as Guest24 === docmax_ is now known as docmax [02:43] Hi there, I want to install mailinabox and want to buy a VPS for that. however the webinterface asks me for Nameserver 1 Prefix and Nameserver 2 Prefix. I not really have a clue what to put in there, I am used to see Reverse DNS or DNS for resolution. But neither a possible reverse dns works, nore an public DNS like 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 https://drop.tinfoil-hat.net/file/ksMtuopkzUamPpCf/0cuJv39rDe8Jc0jU/eth.png [02:45] sounds like a question for the provider [02:45] hmm.. [02:47] why won't my mouse show when I am screen recording? [02:48] blaster: Check the settings of your screen recorder software, perhaps you have a box checked that does that. [02:48] try recording the whole scren rather than one window? [02:48] I personally use OBS Studio for screen recording and I can see my mouse pointer. [02:48] I'm using the built in screen recorder [02:49] Might have to try OBS thank you. [02:50] array [02:50] arraybolt3, i need your help @@!! [02:52] blaster: when you start recording, there's a button to enable capturing the mouse pointer on the bottom right: https://i.imgur.com/fhGsKP6.png [02:52] ive installed "fish" but i cant seem to get it to start without typing "fish" in the command prompt [02:52] tomreyn, I have tried that, still no dice. [02:52] tomreyn: heh which? :) [02:53] hmm, works here [02:53] sarnold: which what, the button you ask? :) [02:53] tomreyn, even for a small capture area? [02:53] Like part of one window [02:53] blaster: that's what i just tried [02:53] if anyone can help with this ...it would begreat [02:53] i'm trying this on ubuntu 22.04 [02:54] tomreyn: yeah, I'd sort of assume the 'selection' lets you select a part of the screen, screen records the whole thing, window records one specific window, the camera vs videocamera icons select video vs screenshot, and the red dot starts and stops.. [02:55] sarnold: that's exactly what they do, i think [02:55] hassletime: if you *really* want to change your login shell, try 'chsh -s fish' or something similar [02:55] Yeah never worked showing the pointer, even on my old machine, and I am on 22.04. Weird. [02:55] hassletime: keep a root prompt open on a virtual console or via ssh or something while you test [02:55] tomreyn: so which button says "yes record the mouse" or "no don't record the mouse"? :) [02:55] it says when i try [02:56] chsh: fish is an invalid shell [02:56] tomreyn: I kinda half expect 'full screen' to work, but that's a guess.. [02:56] sarnold: on the screenshot i posted, the mouse pointer you see there is not my actual mouse pointer, it's a button you can press [02:56] hassletime: ah. bummer. maybe the full pathname is required? if not, add the path to /etc/shells [02:56] tomreyn: lmao [02:56] to enabeel capturing the mouse pointer in the recording [02:57] tomreyn: WHY DO BUTTONS NOT LOOK LIKE BUTTONS [02:57] everything online says what you said [02:58] sarnold: that's a good question indeed :) [02:59] sarnold: here's your button looking like a button, more or less https://i.imgur.com/hmQd5vx.png [02:59] these buttons look like buttons! http://www.xwinman.org/screenshots/fvwm-geir.gif [03:00] I googled how to change the resolution of my ubuntu server. xrandr was suggested online but I get "can't open display" [03:00] tomreyn: honestly now it kind of looks more like an accessiblity "make the mouse pointer easy to find" [03:00] i also demand my os/2 back [03:00] "vde" and "videoinfo" don't work either [03:00] fluid: those are all gui things. servers don't usually have guis. [03:01] ahh.. but the CLI is not 640x480 [03:01] (hence why I needed nomodeset) [03:01] hey sarnold [03:01] check this out [03:01] https://imgur.com/a/2goOlLU [03:02] fluid: is this during or post installation? [03:02] how do i do that [03:02] tomreyn, post install. [03:02] looks like grub_gfxpayload_linux is the way to go [03:03] fluid: and you work on the server by sitting in front of the screen with a keyboard? most people won't care, will just use ssh [03:03] hassletime: more or less just as he said, but with whatever path your fish is installed to [03:03] im only new to this [03:03] i hope to remove node.js from repositories , when i list ppa name with "apt policy" , it appear :" https://deb.nodesource.com/node_19.x jammy/main amd64 Packages [03:03] release n=jammy,l=Node Source,c=main,b=amd64 [03:03] origin deb.nodesource.com [03:03] ", what's the exact name if i hope use "add-apt-repository -remove ppa???" [03:03] tomreyn, yup [03:04] xxy: well, it's not a ppa [03:05] it's a third party repository [03:05] xxy: I'm 90% sure that add-apt-repository can't deal with third-party repos [03:05] xxy: you'll need to remove its configuration off /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [03:05] thanks [03:06] (or comment it out at least) [03:06] you may also want to diable its apt repository signing key [03:06] tomreyn: how to disable signing key? [03:07] xxy: i think those are in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ nowadays [03:08] sarnold, the prob is the file is read only [03:08] there or keyrings/ [03:09] hassletime: it requires root privs to edit -- sudo vim /etc/shells or sudo nano /etc/shells or whatever your favourite editor is [03:09] thank you [03:11] I found settings for changing the resolution in grub, but that's not the mode that has a problem. It's the mode that is changed during the boot process. [03:11] hassletime: it's considered impolite (at least by me, but also some others), to ask the same question in different channels at the same time (or almost the same time). this can indicate you lack patience and consider yourself / your issue as so important that not just one but multiple volunteer support communities should help you out with it. [03:12] so please don't do this, or if you want to re-ask it on the other channel later, then tell people where you asked first that you're withdrawing the question. [03:13] tomreyn, i was hoping arraybolt3 would help me tbh [03:13] sorry if i offended anyone [03:13] i'm just explaining because you're new around here ;) [03:13] thank you,and sorry [03:14] ill just ask here [03:15] https://imgur.com/a/3aTVAbO [03:15] i did that [03:15] fluid: so, it's been years since I've wanted to change the text console.. the vga=ask kernel parameter will probably get the kernel to give you a menu of choices [03:15] that look right [03:16] fluid: there (used to be?) a framebuffer console, but either it got ripped out or replaced or something similar, I'm not sure any more :( [03:16] hassletime: remove the 'chsh -s ' from that line [03:16] ok [03:17] it didnt say error [03:17] nice [03:17] but also restarted terminal and "fish" wasnt there [03:18] scratches head [03:18] lol [03:18] and it seems right [03:18] hassle@hassle-System-Product-Name:~$ which fish [03:19] ..../usr/bin/fish [03:19] try uhh [03:19] what are those four dots? [03:19] so that if you type / in IRC [03:19] it thinks its a command [03:20] oh :) some clients let you use: / /usr/bin/ to avoid that [03:20] so just some ...so i could type / [03:20] :) [03:20] what did you add to your /etc/shells file? /usr/bin/fish or /usr/local/bin/fish? [03:20] which command actually exists? :) [03:20] ok let me look [03:20] nc termbin.com 9999 < /etc/shells [03:21] .../usr/bin/fish [03:21] and [03:21] .../usr/local/bin/fish [03:21] are both in there [03:22] file /usr/local/bin/fish [03:22] https://pastebin.com/7hvn3tY7 [03:23] whats the whole file [03:24] "file /usr/local/bin/fish" is a command [03:24] it creates one line of output you could post here [03:25] termbin.com 9999 < /etc/shells [03:25] nc termbin.com 9999 < /etc/shells [03:26] ok im doing something wrong again .lol [03:26] commands go into your shell, outputs from commands goes here (but maximum one line please) [03:27] i'm suggesting that you run this command in your shell and post its output here: file /usr/local/bin/fish [03:28] that has been added [03:29] what has been added where? [03:30] that /usr/local/bin/fish has been added to shell [03:30] okay, that was already understood [03:30] if you mean /etc/shells [03:30] yes [03:31] sorry if im not understanding [03:31] FYI, grub's "GRUB_GFXMODE" appears to be the correct way to set the resolution for post-boot. [03:31] fluid: sweet, thanks :) [03:33] fluid: so "which" is a command, you ran "which fish" earlier. "file" is also a command, and i'm suggesting you run "file /usr/local/bin/fish" [03:33] oh [03:33] this would create a line of output, and i'm suggesting that you share that output with us [03:34] no such file [03:34] or dir [03:34] so this custom fish shell does not exist (or you mistyped the command just now) [03:34] there is a [03:34] tomreyn, not me :) [03:35] fluid: oops, sorry [03:35] hassletime: if /usr/local/bin/fish really does not exist, then adding it to /etc/shells won't help you select it as a shell, because this shell does not exist. [03:36] there is .. [03:36] file /bin/fish [03:36] thank you that makes sence [03:37] so i added /bin/fish [03:37] but that didnt work [03:38] "didn't work" is the most terrible description of an erroneous situation you can provide [03:39] try to explain what you tried, what you expected to happen, what happened instead [03:40] ok so i added /bin/fish to the shell as which fish says /bin/fish [03:41] sorry wrong [03:41] "file" says /bin/fish [03:41] "which" says /usr/bin/fish [03:42] the command "which" without any parameters would never output "/usr/bin/fish" [03:42] the command "file" without any parameters would never output "/bin/fish" [03:43] tomreyn, thanks again for your help! [03:43] https://imgur.com/a/ENQU5jG [03:43] fluid: you're welcome, did you get a better sonsole resolution set? and if so, how? [03:44] which fish [03:44] file fish [03:45] hassletime: so you ran the "which" and "fish" commands with one argument each, "fish", cool. [03:45] that's not what i suggested to do, but still good to know. [03:45] maybe it's time to take a step back and describe what you are trying to achieve [03:46] ok im trying to achieve "fish" running on terminal startup instead of typing fish when terminal opens [03:46] tomreyn, changing the "GRUB_GFXMODE" and "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX" lines in /etc/defaults/grub [03:47] fluid: ah so this still works, cool [03:48] hassletime: you want to change the default shell of your system user "hassle" to be "/usr/bin/fish" [03:48] yes sir [03:49] hassletime: good - but i'm not a 'sir'. ;) indeed, the first step then is to ensure you have /usr/bin/fish on a line by itself in /etc/shells [03:49] is that the case, yet? [03:50] let me just confirm that [03:50] you can run this command to post the contents of this file online: nc termbin.com 9999 < /etc/shells [03:50] that's why i gave you that command earlier [03:51] it will print a http:// address which you can copy and paste (or just type) here [03:51] copy-and-paste is way more reliable and faster, too [03:51] it also seems that you are somehow unable to copy and paste between your terminal and the irc [03:52] https://termbin.com/migqd1 [03:52] it may be a good idea to tackle this issue first of all [03:54] so you DO have /usr/bin/fish on a line all by itself in /etc/shells, good. then all you need to do is to run chsh -s /usr/bin/fish [03:55] yep but for some reason nothing happens [03:55] i start a fresh terminal and no "fish" [03:56] hassletime: i'll have some food now, i suggest you enable copying and pasting to and from your terminal first of all. if your ubuntu installation runs in a virtual machine and you're working on it by looking at the screen output, then install openssh-server on the ubuntu system and use an ssh client to connect to it from your main computer. [03:56] cat /etc/passwd | nc termbin.com 9999 (that won't send your passwords, /etc/passwd contains some login info, including the login shell -passwords are in /etc/shadow, which you should never share) [03:56] hassletime: ^ [03:56] I suspect it's working but that you need to log out and log back in for the changes to take effect. [03:57] But looking at the contents of /etc/passwd will verify that. [03:57] ill logout first [03:57] and go from there [03:59] puts head done....logout login fixed it [03:59] \o/ [03:59] nice [03:59] defeated by a logout login ..sighs [04:01] the old logout login trick got me again [04:01] Heh, it happens. [04:02] few login problems going on atm lol [04:03] if you didnt get that it fixed the problem [04:03] Very glad to hear it worked. [04:04] try again [04:04] hassletime: We can see your messages, if you're wondering. [04:04] Something gone wrong? [04:05] oh good [04:05] hunter2 [04:05] changed servers [04:05] ******* [04:05] sarnold, good, it works [04:05] see how we go now lol [04:05] thanks tomreyn for you patience and understanding [04:05] fluid: *nod* [04:06] arraybolt3, you done it again Sir [04:06] hassletime: Meh, all I did was suggest something to cross the last hurdle. [04:06] tomreyn and sarnold did all the heavy lifting. [04:06] You ...you.. your..good you are..your good [04:06] (And I didn't even know /etc/shells was a file until today so I probably wouldn't have been much help for most of it :P) [04:07] well it was great team work [04:07] and Sarnold ...thank you also [04:07] hassletime: sure thing, I'm glad it worked out :) [04:08] you should just come in ...at the end and just say everytime HT logout lol [04:08] lol [04:09] when i logged out and it worked ...i just stared at the computer for a min thinking,you make me look like a fool yet again..i dont need the help [04:09] lol [04:09] i can easily do the fool part on my own [04:10] Hey, you wouldn't beat yourself up in a street fight, don't do it in a word fight either :P [04:10] Should have seen my first wrestles with Linux. It won quite a few times... [04:10] lol [04:11] "pave it over and reinstall" [04:11] sarnold: And reinstall. And reinstall. And then execute the wrong command and reinstall again. [04:11] arraybolt3: exactly :) [04:12]