[01:24] <mmikowski> RikMills Eickmeyer: Been testing the 5.27 experimental. It looks great so far.
[01:24] <mmikowski> ahoneybun[m] ^^ What needs testing for 22.04.2?
[01:32] <ahoneybun[m]> Looks like this: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/442/builds/272152/testcases
[01:32] <ahoneybun[m]> mmikowski: ∆
[02:54] <mmikowski> Hey ahoneybun[m], thanks!
[02:55] <mmikowski> fwiw, 5.27 is looking amazing.
[02:59] <mmikowski> ahoneybun[m]: We'll pick a few and submit results tomorrow.
[03:02] <ahoneybun[m]> Great!
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[16:15] <ahoneybun[m]> Heyo BluesKaj
[16:23] <ahoneybun[m]> Looks like 22.04.2 is out so I needed to update the website.
[19:43] <mmikowski> ahoneybun[m] We still plan to load a disk today and will report back.
[20:18] <ahoneybun[m]> 22.04.2 testing?
[21:55] <mmikowski> We haven't gotten around to a load today, but we do plan to.
[21:56] <mmikowski> It fits right in with our plasma 5.27 hardware testing.
[21:56] <mmikowski> But right now the tester is finishing up with VM testing.
[21:57] <mmikowski> ahoneybun[m] ^^ Yes, 22.04 testing. I know it's released, but we can still run at least one test plan.
[22:20] <ahoneybun[m]> That's good either way. 
[22:20] <ahoneybun[m]> I'm kinda wondering if you folks do anything upstream from us?
[22:21] <mmikowski> ahoneybun[m]: we do :)
[22:22] <ahoneybun[m]> I've been wanting to have meetings with the KC to see where we're going Kubuntu wise and such. Build out a roadmap.
[22:22] <mmikowski> lots of testing of course. We sent reports to Rik and Nate Graham for KDE testing.
[22:22] <ahoneybun[m]> Also about the Kubuntu Manual and if KFocus uses it at all.
[22:22] <mmikowski> Then we have upstreamed quite a few changes, especially concerning first-touch experiences.
[22:22] <tsimonq2> A good suggestion would be to make it an opt-out desktop icon, as we've done in Lubuntu
[22:23] <ahoneybun[m]> Desktop icon?
[22:23] <mmikowski> ahoneybun[m] Please include me if that works. We definitely have some ideas.
[22:24] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun[m]: For the manual
[22:24] <mmikowski> tsimonq2 Good to see you. Say, we have been testing the experimental build of 5.27 in Kubuntu, and I didn't want to say anything until I got a feel for how it looks...
[22:24] <mmikowski> But it looks really good so far (VM testing only, at this point).
[22:24] <mmikowski> So today we wanted to load up on hardware and check that out.
[22:25] <ahoneybun[m]> tsimonq2: It's not a package in Kubuntu, I never got that far...
[22:25] <mmikowski> So ahoneybun[m] and tsimonq2 and RikMills if testing goes well, do you think the 5.27 build might be a good candidate for backports?
[22:26] <tsimonq2> ahoneybun[m]: It isn't a package in Lubuntu either ;)
[22:26] <tsimonq2> mmikowski: Possibly, I don't have an objection right now :)
[22:27] <ahoneybun[m]> tsimonq2: Just an browser shortcut? It's not on line as a website
[22:27] <mmikowski> +cc arraybolt3: 5.27 appears to fix many of the bugs we had against 5.24, has great new features (people love the tiling), and looks more stable.
[22:27] <ahoneybun[m]> Just a ePub and PDF for offline
[22:27] <mmikowski> Even as built currently against a slightly older QT.
[22:29] <mmikowski> So I could send out a desktop check report which should provide additional value. The tests are pretty comprehensive, so it should definitely provide a level of assurance.
[22:30] <mmikowski> ahoneybun[m]: re upstreaming, other examples include Kubuntu decrypt screen, kernel patch for Intel frame buffer flickering, etc. We expect to remain actively involved with KDE and Kubuntu of course, and offer all our software for upstreaming via kfocus-source.
[22:31] <mmikowski> That said, it's new-hardware season, so we are quite focused on that currently.
[22:31] <ahoneybun[m]> Decrypt screen? Interesting 
[22:32] <ahoneybun[m]> Are sales good over at KFocus?
[22:32] <mmikowski> ahoneybun[m]: Yes, the decrypt screen was not responsive, so if you used it on 4k monitors it would move off screen.
[22:33] <mmikowski> Then the SDDM profile would have screens overlap causing an annoying inset effect. We created a work-around for that and upstreamed it as well.
[22:33] <mmikowski> There are quite a few others, but yeah, we're involved.
[22:34] <mmikowski> Sales have been good, thank you :)
[22:34] <mmikowski> Some big names recently, lots of scientists.
[22:35] <arraybolt3> And I can vouch for the fact that the machines are awesome :D
[22:35] <mmikowski> Thanks Aaron :)
[22:35] <ahoneybun[m]> Clevo/Intel makes good hardware 
[22:35] <mmikowski> fwi, the kernel will be switching to 5.19-generic-hwe as early as this weekend.  It's in final testing and looks good.
[22:37] <ahoneybun[m]> I want to put Kubuntu back on my HP if it wasn't for that GRUB bug
[22:38] <mmikowski> Intel NUCs are incredible.
[22:40] <mmikowski> Clevo chassis that have matured can be quite good, and their quality has improved substantially recently for new chassis.  They definitely have excellent features and connectivity.
[22:51] <ahoneybun[m]> I've thought about working on some of your projects personally. I have one idea that is good for support about using chroot from a live disk to fix an OS install. 
[22:51] <ahoneybun[m]> It's on my GitHub in a kinda working state.
[23:01] <mmikowski> Thanks ahoneybun[m]. Sorry, I was AFKB for a bit. 
[23:02] <mmikowski> We do have detailed docs for that: https://kfocus.org/wf/recovery#bkm_use_chroot_to
[23:03] <mmikowski> But that's as automated as it gets right now :]
[23:05] <ahoneybun[m]> Yet
[23:07] <mmikowski> We do have an interesting QT project that's underway too. You can see that also in GitHub under kfocus-source.
[23:43] <mmikowski> ahoneybun[m]: The QT project is a unified power + fan selector. Nicco did that for us and a bug bounty, but it needs to be finalized. If you are interested in QT coding and want to tackle it, let me know. We haven't packaged it for public development IIRC, but we have all the specs and sketches and could do so in short order.
[23:44] <mmikowski> It is an interesting project, and probably something that could be finished in perhaps 2 weekends by a developer.
[23:45] <mmikowski> kk, gotta sign off now. Thanks for catching up!  Will report on ISO install today, as we will be walking through the OEM scenario presently.