[00:00] <user|76> i want to make the ones on the left smaller
[00:00] <mmikowski> Please send a link to a screen shot so I can understand.
[00:01] <user|76> can we upload direct screenshots?
[00:02] <mmikowski> you should be able to upload to imgr or similar
[00:02] <mmikowski> then share the link
[00:07] <user|7620> https://imgur.com/a/Ul7sZ7S
[00:07] <user|76> ahh close enough it put in as 7620 oh well
[00:07] <mmikowski> user|76: ok, it is clear now
[00:07] <mmikowski> the RH side is the system tray.
[00:08] <user|76> ok what about the left side?
[00:08] <mmikowski> That resizes differently as discussed above - it will add rows or columns to accommodate the widgets
[00:09] <mmikowski> The LH side are the normal icons.
[00:09] <mmikowski> So if you narrow the bar, you will reduce the size of those icons.
[00:09] <user|76> oh i see its more about the size of the height of that bar
[00:10] <mmikowski> So just RMB click on the task bar, enter edit mode, then reduce the bar height.
[00:10] <user|76> yup i just did that
[00:10] <mmikowski> The system tray icons should stay the same size, while the LH icons will scale
[00:10] <user|76> the icons are very small width wise on the system tray thats prob. why they appear so small
[00:10] <user|76> yup is sthere a way to change system tray icons?
[00:11] <mmikowski> Right click on the tray to configure.
[00:11] <mmikowski> You can play with icon size a bit with the first tab.
[00:12] <mmikowski> There may  be other ways, but that's all I got for now :)
[00:12] <mmikowski> kk, gotta get back to compiling some stuff.
[00:12] <mmikowski> Best of luck to you.
[00:12] <user|76> thanks
[00:12] <mmikowski> you're welcome!
[00:12] <user|76> i have said before at least people here are nicer and help rapidly
[00:13] <user|76> i came from linux mint which boasts how friendly and helpful their people are its the opposite they were rude and after a while they get frustrated if your problem isn't solved
[00:13] <user|76> thanks again
[00:14] <mmikowski> You're welcome. I'm from kfocus.org.
[00:14] <mmikowski> So we have lots of experience helping people with their systems :)
[00:15] <mmikowski> btw, check out https://kfocus.org/wf - this has a searchable knowledge base specifically for Kubuntu.
[00:15] <user|76> ok will do thanks again
[00:15] <mmikowski> Lots of helpful articles. Like, if you want to use GPU acceleration in Blender, we give advice on that and tons more.
[00:15] <mmikowski> kk, ttyl
[04:34] <TomyWork> I'm on kubuntu 18.04 (out of support, I know, but I'm working on getting a new machine and I'm going to wipe this one as soon as that is set up with 22.04)
[04:35] <TomyWork> I have a major problem: since the last update, the task bar is missing. the update didnt even have any KDE packages in it: https://gist.github.com/TomyLobo/40c96b5eb9fec913f6cc10b4f1635515
[04:35] <arraybolt3> TomyWork: Can you right-click on the desktop and see anything that looks like "Add Panel"?
[04:36] <arraybolt3> I've never used Kubuntu 18.04 and don't know if that button existed back then but that's how newer versions worked.
[04:36] <TomyWork> nope, and it doesnt even have the background image
[04:36] <TomyWork> it's just black
[04:37] <arraybolt3> Does Ctrl+Alt+T work to give you a terminal?
[04:37] <arraybolt3> If so, try running "plasmashell" and see what happens.
[04:37] <TomyWork> I have a terminal
[04:37] <TomyWork> through krunner
[04:37] <arraybolt3> Yeah, run "plasmashell" and see if your desktop appears.
[04:37] <TomyWork> nothing
[04:37] <arraybolt3> If not, you might at least get an error message that way.
[04:38] <TomyWork> there is a plasmashell running though, since login
[04:38] <TomyWork> should I try killing that and then running plasmashell on the terminal?
[04:38] <arraybolt3> I would.
[04:39] <TomyWork> oh that worked
[04:39] <TomyWork> weird, why isn't it coming up on boot?
[04:39] <TomyWork> on login*
[04:39] <arraybolt3> No clue. I see something KDE-releated might have been updated though.
[04:39] <arraybolt3> libkrb5
[04:39] <TomyWork> krb is kerberos
[04:39] <arraybolt3> But at any rate, I'd consider this a good indicator that it's Time to Upgrade(TM) :P
[04:40] <arraybolt3> Ah. Started with a K, ended with a 5, so it confused me.
[04:40] <TomyWork> does plasmashell write any logs anywhere?
[04:40] <TomyWork> where does its stdout usually go to?
[04:40] <arraybolt3> I don't know, sadly.
[04:41] <TomyWork> I'll just try and relogin, see if that shook things out
[04:43] <TomyWork> yep, now it works, weird. I tried relogin before and it didn't
[04:43] <arraybolt3> Weird. Glad it's working though!
[04:44] <TomyWork> thanks for the handholding :D
[04:44] <arraybolt3> (btw, 18.04 isn't just out of support in Kubuntu, but it goes out of standard support for all of Ubuntu in a bit more than a month, so it really is a good idea to update very soon before updates stop entirely. Just in case you didn't know already. Glad to be able to help!)
[04:45] <TomyWork> yeah I know
[04:45] <TomyWork> and there's always the archives, in case I miss the "last update"
[04:46] <TomyWork> but if all goes according to plan, I'll be done with 18.04 by the end of march anyway
[12:23] <TomyWork> arraybolt3, you know what I just found out: this machine has been running since friday morning. I must have hit the wrong button when shutting it down
[12:23] <TomyWork> that might have contributed to the issue
[13:15] <TMartins> hello! Does anyone knows if 5.27 is going to be on the backports ppa?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:05] <mparillo> TMartins: On the first page of results: curl https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports | grep 5.27
 "hello! Does anyone knows if 5.27..." <- Not for 22.04 LTS I believe as 5.26 broken upgrades to 22.10 from 22.04.
[14:07] <ahoneybun[m]> Hello BluesKaj
[14:11] <TMartins> thanks
[14:16] <TMartins> hm, it would appear the upgrade might be broken from 22.10 as well. I can't update plasma-workspace to 5.27
[14:17] <BluesKaj> hi ahoneybun[m]
[14:18] <TMartins> ah, it's some weird conflict with lxqt!
[14:28] <ahoneybun[m]> I don't think it's in backports for 22.10 but not sure.
[14:33] <TMartins> no, it actually is, I just installed 5.27 on 22.10... I had to remove lxqt though
[14:34] <TMartins> I wasn't really using it anymore (I installed it for a lighter remote desktop experience), and oh boy, 5.26 on dual screens wasn't fun... :(
[14:35] <ahoneybun[m]> I don't think I've had an issue with dual monitors with Plasma or any desktop really.
[14:35] <BluesKaj> I'm testing Lunar 23.04 and the plasmashell version is 5.26.5... dunno if that qualifies as 5.27.. so trying to a dev version on a stable release seems iffy to me.
[14:35] <ahoneybun[m]> Even before 5.27.
[14:36] <TMartins> Yeah, well... NVidia user here...  :(
[14:37] <TMartins> I can't really blame plasma for my troubles, but still...
[14:48] <ahoneybun[m]> 5.26.9 I think would be testing 5.27?
[14:48] <ahoneybun[m]> I'm either all Intel or Intel+AMD other then my HP which is Intel+NVIDIA with 4K lol
[15:02] <mparillo> I am all intel, except for my macbook pro with intel+AMD, and I have no real issues with multi-monitor with KDE and Wayland. Only minor annoyance is that it seems to me that windows open on random monitors and sometimes maximized, and other times not. I have trouble anticipating what will happen. But for me, that is only a very minor thing.
[15:45] <TMartins> yeah, I'm kinda stuck with NVidia because of my research on CUDA. I can't really say I recommend it.
 Is it just me or kubuntu 22.04 LTS isn't getting any updates recently
[18:15] <ahoneybun[m]> We just pushed out 22.04.2 so there are updates.
[18:27] <Guest6370> does anyone know how to instruct kde to start all apps in seperate systemd scopes?
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