[01:05] <andrew79> Hello community, I have this very frustrating problem where my laptop's touchpad is not working as expected. During two-finger scrolling, the page will often jump/skip more than it should. I have tried several things like updating drivers and changing between xinput and synaptics drivers. But I'm not experienced in this type of debugging and could
[01:05] <andrew79> really appreciate if someone could help me out. I have followed instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection/evtest so I have an evtest logfile ready, as well as my xinput output. What would be the best way to share this (and the correct channel if this is not it)?
[01:38] <Peppi^> has anyone got rsync working pulling data from a windows machine
[01:40] <Habbie> Peppi^, i suspect people do - are you running into trouble?
[01:43] <Peppi^> Habbie, not yet just wanted to know what the proper way of doing it
[01:44] <ShaunD69> with the Ubuntu autoinstaller in 20.04 or 22.04, is there a way to get it to not use the random DUID when requesting DHCP lease? In the answerfile, settinh dhcp-identifier:mac doesn't work. I need to hand out static leases based on mac addresses for the installation. Alternately is there a way to get systemd-networkd to release the dhcp lease? Release functionality seems to be missing. I can't fix
[01:44] <ShaunD69> any of this on the braindead juniper dhcp server I must use that cannot match on things other than mac for static dhcp leases. I've been beating my head against the wall for the last couple of days. Googling has been unhelpful. I've seen others with similiar issues and no solution.
[01:47] <Habbie> Peppi^, ah
[01:47] <Habbie> Peppi^, honestly sounds like a windows question though
[01:51] <Peppi^> Habbie, well maybe the rsync client is on ubuntu so not so sure it's a 100% windows questions
[01:51] <Habbie> sure, but i feel the hard part is setting up rsyncd or sshd on windows
[01:52] <Peppi^> not sure hence why I was asking here also
[01:52] <Habbie> to be clear, i'm just trying to help you get the best answers - one step is getting your question clearer, another step might be "you should ask in another place"
[01:52] <Peppi^> appreciated
[01:53] <Habbie> good :)
[01:53] <Habbie> so is your problem the ubuntu side or the windows side?
[01:53] <Peppi^> I mean windows does have "Windows Subsystem for Linux"... so
[01:54] <Peppi^> I just figured there might be a person here who uses rsync and has transfered files from a windows machine
[01:55] <Peppi^> the windows channel probably have a lot less people who have used rsync
[01:56] <ravage> There is a rsync.exe for windows and you can install that as a service in Windows I think
[01:56] <Peppi^> for example if I went to windows and asked for a backup system I doubt rsync would crack top 10. VS here if I asked for a backup solution rsync is probably top 3
[01:56] <ravage> But that really is off topic here :)
[01:57] <ravage> You can also have a look at cygwin
[02:54] <cobraeriko> I recently reinstalled latest Ubuntu on a fresh brand-new SSD drive. For about a week, my computer seemed a bit slower than it had been with the old drive that had the same Ubuntu release installed. When I would run a lot of processes (i.e., when many tabs were open on webbrowser), it would hang where it would not before. But for some reason,
[02:54] <cobraeriko> lately it has seemingly become  very much faster or able to run the same process load without ever hanging at all. Yet I didn't change any settings. All I've done was apt update/upgrade. Does anyone know how this could be? Am I crazy?
[02:58] <sarnold> cobraeriko: these machines do so much stuff in the background these days that it's entirely plausible to me that it'd be obnoxiously slow one day and reasonable enough the next day and there be no obvious reason for why
[03:00] <cobraeriko> sarnold: very interesting
[03:01] <cobraeriko> that's good to know
[03:13] <cobraeriko> One last question, I have a kvm virtual machine running in the background that serves a live website (a Ubuntu server with a web-app). Is it ok if I simply allow the host's Ubuntu to suspend in periods of inactivity instead of shitting down the  computer? It's worked for me so far
[03:14] <sarnold> heh, yeah, if you don't really care about the website being up and running all the time that's fine
[03:16] <cobraeriko> Cool. Thank you
[03:24] <cobraeriko> actually since I do care about the website being up and running all the time, I've just been letting the screen shutoff with inactivity (besides also closing any open apps and stuff before leaving). Is this fine?
[03:25] <sarnold> yeah that's much better :)
[03:25] <sarnold> it's not a bad idea to lock the screen manually when walking away from the computer
[03:27] <cobraeriko> sarnold: yea, I'll add that too. Thanks again
[04:34] <SteffieDev> Good morning. I've got a big problem
[04:35] <SteffieDev> I just did an update via discover and after the restart plasma was suddenly deleted
[04:35] <SteffieDev> can anyone help please
[04:36] <SteffieDev> for info kubuntu 22.10 kde plasma 5.27
[04:56] <ice9> how to prevent bluetooth mouse from sleeping at all on linux?
[04:58] <hiya> leftyfb: Okay, I would try it now
[05:00] <hiya> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v6.2.1/ | Which mainline kernel should I select for T16 Gen1 AMD laptop with 6850U processor
[05:41] <hiya> I installed the mainline kernel
[05:41] <hiya> but I had to turn off the secureboot
[05:41] <hiya> I see a lot of missing AMDGPU things when I do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:44] <hiya> https://paste.debian.net/plainh/6784760e
[05:44] <hiya> These are the set of missing firmwares
[05:51] <Jazzy_J> hiya, try "apt install linux-firmware"
[05:51] <hiya> but I am on mainline kernel now, would it break something? I had installed with secureboot with password and all
[05:52] <hiya> linux-firmware is already the newest version (20220923.gitf09bebf3-0ubuntu1.4)
[05:52] <Jazzy_J> here are some possible options:  https://9to5answer.com/missing-firmware-for-amdgpu
[05:55] <hiya> Jazzy_J: but many files just aren't there
[05:55] <hiya> I think they aren't needed only
[05:55] <hiya> even in the git link
[06:11] <lolok> it says there '*Possible* missing firmware' are you having any issues or only this message? because if theres no problem, this is safe to ignore
[06:13] <vlt> Good morning, everyone! How can I create a fresh .config/dconf/user file from the result of a `dconf dump /` *without* a running session? Is there a `dconf load` option to create a fresh file?
[06:47] <hiya> lolok: Yes, only the message I have the problem with
[06:47] <hiya> I think these are those non-fatal informational messages
[06:57] <lolok> yes, they are telling you that the driver can run more different cards, if you find the firmware, but if all is good, then theres nothing to do assuming you only boot this os on 1 system
[07:05] <hiya> lolok: I am using AMD6850U processor with embedded GPU
[07:05] <hiya> I just have sleep/wake up issues when I close the lid
[07:05] <hiya> it would crash internally with default kernel on 22.04
[07:05] <hiya> hence I am trying mainline kernel 6.2.1
[07:05] <hiya> Does mainline kernel update by itself? or do I need to do it each time?
[07:07] <lolok> yea a very new cpu, unfortunately such problems are not uncommon on recent hardware, probably you can disable automatic sleep on lid close
[07:07] <hiya> lolok: do I need to update the mainline kernel myself each time?
[07:08] <hiya> So I just check the stable option here: https://kernel.org/
[07:08] <hiya> and update right?
[07:08] <lolok> unsure, i use lts, maybe someone else will answer
[07:23] <hiya> lolok: don't use LTS bro, get latest and greatest :P jk jk
[07:39] <lolok> ubuntu for server, arch for desktop, 6.2.1 left testing repo yesterday
[07:39] <hiya> Ok
[08:24]  * luna continues with the Swedish Lomiri translation
[09:18] <hiya> How can I verify what Gnome Power Profile is currently active from terminal?
[09:19] <hiya> I believe it is not setting to Power Save mode when I select it from GUI
[09:37] <athos> k/18
[10:45] <ogra> !mainline
[10:45] <ogra> hiya, ^^^
[10:45] <ogra> do *not* use mainline PPA kernels in production !
[10:46] <ogra> (read the wiki page)
[10:47] <hiya> ogra: I am using it on my main laptop
[10:48] <ogra> hiya, well, don't do that ... they are missing about 400 (security) patches, use the wrong config and are solely for testing (and as you noticed already tey will never update)
[10:48] <ogra> if yu see issues in userspace, please do not ask for support here ... it is very likely caused by wrong or missing config options or patches in these kernels
[10:49] <ogra> they are really only for testing if some fix landed when a kernel team member asks you to install them to verify the fix is upstream ... you should never use them on a daily basis
[10:56] <hiya> ogra: Okay, I will see what I can do, I think I just need a rolling release then
[10:58] <hiya> so I should just uninstall them and switch back to normal kernel
[11:00] <hiya> ogra: how to update the kernel in Ubuntu then? I have a new laptop and I need latest kernel
[11:00] <hiya> Should I use a different distro?
[11:01] <ogra> you should check out the -hwe and -oem kernels if they provide what your hardware needs ... if it does not i fear waiting is your best option ..
[11:02] <hiya> ogra: I have a ThinkPad T16 Gen1 with AMD 6850U
[11:02] <hiya> What kernel do you think is best?
[11:02] <ogra> no idea
[11:03] <ogra> you could try asking the kernel team in #ubuntu-kernel ... but i suspec even them wont look closely at different laptop models unless they have specific bugs to fix for a certain machine
[11:04] <hiya> Ok
[11:04] <ogra> what exacly does not work with the default kernel ?
[11:04] <hiya> ogra: AMDGPU driver crashes in between
[11:05] <hiya> and wake up won't work most of the time when you close the lid
[11:05] <ogra> with the one shipped in the archive ?
[11:05] <hiya> It came without any OS
[11:05] <ogra> with which AMDGPU driver do you experience the crashes ?
[11:06] <ogra> i.e. des it behave crashy right after fresh install of the OS ?
[11:06] <hiya> Yes, it always does
[11:06] <ogra> or did you add some third-party amd driver
[11:06] <hiya> I tried with 20.04,22.04
[11:06] <hiya> No 3rd party drivers
[11:07] <alkisg> [ 6878.377221] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] tag#19 unaligned transfer, [ 6878.377223] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 6 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0, [ 6878.377227] Buffer I/O error on dev sr0, logical block 6, async page read
[11:07] <alkisg> [11:07] <ogra> so first of all, file a bug with "ubuntu-bug linux" ... to make the kernel devs aware, else it will never get fixed ... but make sur you use the actual kernel, not the mainline one
[11:07] <hiya> I think I have to move to 5.19.x again, but I have to reboot for it and enable secureboot again.
[11:07] <alkisg> ...anyone else has seen this issue, any launchpad bugs for it?
[11:07] <alkisg> P.S. it probably started in the last kernel updates
[11:08] <hiya> ogra: I met a dev of Ubuntu in thinkpad chan, he also confirmed it, he said it would be fixed in 23.04
[11:08] <Guest4777> Hi I use UBUNTU_22.10 on my HP Laptop. I need to create a WIN_11 Startup disk for my Dell Laptop, I have the ISO but I don't seem to able to select it in the Startup Disk Creator. Any words of help?
[11:09] <ogra> hiya, wll, if you are brave you could run 23.04 🙂 it is already in feature-freeze
[11:09] <hiya> ogra: I am super duper brave always
[11:09]  * alkisg realizes he should have posted in #ubuntu-kernel instead; heading there...
[11:09] <ogra> alkisg, yeah, i have definitey not seen sr0 in any logs for a long time ....
[11:09] <Guest4777> Hi please help, I have post this above
[11:10] <Guest4777> I use UBUNTU_22.10 on my HP Laptop. I need to create a WIN_11 Startup disk for my Dell Laptop, I have the ISO but I don't seem to able to select it in the Startup Disk Creator. Any words of help?
[11:10] <hiya> ogra: so mainline kernel is by no means safe?
[11:11] <Guest4777> fuck you all
[11:11] <Guest4777> and your big boobed mums
[11:13] <ogra> hiya, right, you will see issues in userspace due to missing config options and such ... like power-mgmt might not work, apps expecting certain features wil not find them and silently fail etc etc
[11:14] <hiya> ogra: I will move to default kernel again and try to move to 23.04 :P or just wait
[11:14] <hiya> Or another distro, I thought Ubuntu was bleeding edge :P
[11:14] <hiya> I am on 22.10
[11:14] <ogra> hiya, get your system back into a pristine state, then "sudo do-release-update -d" should get you onto 23.04
[11:15] <hiya> but I think it might break a lot of things, right?
[11:15] <ogra> there are surely still some rough edges, but the release is already in freeze, so the worst changes have landed and are just getting fixes for release now
[11:20] <hiya> ogra: When would it release?
[11:20] <hiya> April?
[11:21] <ogra> hiya, in april (04) of this year (23) ... as the version number 23.04 tells 😉
[11:21] <hiya> I think I should just bear until then
[11:22] <hiya> I don't know but this mainline kernel is working solid
[11:22] <hiya> :P
[11:22] <hiya> I tried 11,15,21m of sleep with lid closed and it opened every time
[11:40] <alkisg> hiya: ubuntu 22.04 has up to kernels 6.1 in the stock repositories currently, that's higher than the 5.19 of 22.10
[11:45] <ogra> oh, right linux-oem-22.04c should be 6.1
[11:45] <hiya> then why the heck am I using 22.10 ? :P
[11:56] <hiya> alkisg: can I downgrade from 22.10 to 22.04?
[11:56] <hiya> or would it break the system?
[11:56] <hiya> but oem-22, which oem is it?
[11:56] <alkisg> hiya: no, you'd need to reinstall but you can keep /home
[11:57] <mad_> hi
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> hiya: ogra just mentioned wich kernel
[11:58] <hiya> nope, I think which OEM does this kernel belong to?
[11:58] <hiya> Dell, HP?
[11:58] <hiya> Or is it generic?
[11:59] <alkisg> hiya: I didn't read all the converation, but if you just care about the highest kernel number, `apt install linux-oem-22.04` will give you linux-image-oem-22.04c
[11:59] <alkisg> linux-image-6.1.0-1006-oem
[11:59] <hiya> I mean*
[11:59] <hiya> but which OEM is it?
[11:59] <hiya> Dell, HP or Lenovo?
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> thats not how it works hiya
[12:00] <ogra> all of them ... it carries random patches for OEM devices that will land in a later -gerneic kernel
[12:01] <hiya> Ok
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> some brands will pick specific oem kernel versions for a reason too
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> like dell has some specific ones
[12:01] <ogra> the -oem means it is done by the cannical oem team that works closer with vendors
[12:01] <ogra> it doesnt mean "a specific OEM"
[12:02] <ogra> *canonical oem team
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> like arraybolt3 recently mentioned his kubuntu focus laptop came with 5.17 by default
[12:03] <hiya> Okay
[12:20] <susana> Hello World
[13:04] <Farted> Hyyy
[13:04] <Farted> Heya
[13:05] <Farted> Last version of ubuntu is 22.10?
[13:06] <hiya> Farted: yes
[13:06] <hiya> Not last, but latest
[13:06] <hiya> Upcoming release is 23.04
[13:08] <Farted> Which I use 22 LTS or 22.10 ?
[13:08] <Farted> there are two versions
[13:09] <ravage> get 22.04. it has longer support
[13:09] <ravage> !lts | Farted
[13:11] <Farted> But what means long support
[13:12] <Farted> Are there any new features for LTS or is it only updated as security maintenance?
[13:13] <ravage> security only
[13:13] <ravage> but that is the case for every ubuntu release
[13:13] <ravage> (+ bug fixes)
[13:21] <furetto> Hi, I have ha problem: when I connect my headphone in the front jack of my case, the system doesn't detect it. Thank all for your support
[13:23] <SteelRose> furetto: have you tried with other headphone? perhaps the connector is broken
[13:25] <furetto> SteelRose, yes, the connector work, on operating system windows work correctly
[13:38] <SteelRose> upgrade your firmware
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:44] <luna> hi
[15:04] <RaimondRaj> adduser: The user `rythmmixfm' already exists. but cant be seen
[15:04] <RaimondRaj> can anyone help
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> !adduser | RaimondRaj
[15:05] <RaimondRaj> lotuspsychje
[15:05] <RaimondRaj> the username already adduser but cant see in folder
[15:05] <RaimondRaj> adduser: The user `rythmmixfm' already exists.
[15:09] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: ok, so what is the problem exactly? The user exists. You don't need to create the user again. Now what is missing or not working?
[15:12] <RaimondRaj> the user name that i need to create is already have
[15:12] <RaimondRaj> i wanted to bring it back
[15:12] <RaimondRaj> and also delete some user
[15:13] <RaimondRaj> userdel: user jeitrivia02 is currently used by process 4399
[15:13] <RaimondRaj> some user i cant delete it
[15:13] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: 1 problem at a time
[15:13] <RaimondRaj> ok now
[15:13] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: rythmmixfm   why do you need to create the user if it already exists?
[15:14] <RaimondRaj> i want to delet username jeitrivia02 but its show like this ( userdel: user jeitrivia02 is currently used by process 4399 )
[15:14] <RaimondRaj> please help me solve jeitrivia02 issue
[15:14] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: reboot
[15:14] <leftyfb> then try again
[15:14] <RaimondRaj> i dont want make u confues
[15:15] <leftyfb> or sudo kill -9 4399 # if you don't care what that user might have been running
[15:16] <RaimondRaj> wait yah
[15:17] <RaimondRaj> leftyfb : solve it
[15:18] <RaimondRaj> i have create username  rythmmixfm but its show ( adduser: The user `rythmmixfm' already exists. )
[15:18] <RaimondRaj> went i see the list useing WINSCP i didnt see the folder name  rythmmixfm
[15:22] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; getent passwd|grep rythmmixfm ; ls -ld /home/rythmmixfm ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:26] <RaimondRaj> -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)'
[15:26] <leftyfb> sorry
[15:26] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; getent passwd|grep rythmmixfm ; ls -ld /home/rythmmixfm ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:27] <RaimondRaj>  ls: cannot access '/home/rythmmixfm': No such file or directory
[15:28] <RaimondRaj> let me reboot
[15:29] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: if you would like help troubleshooting, it's not suggested you take it upon yourself to just reboot or make changes that weren't given
[15:29] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: and you didn't post the URL here
[15:36] <RaimondRaj> i dnt have any url
[15:36] <RaimondRaj> i already reebot it
[15:37] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; getent passwd|grep rythmmixfm ; ls -ld /home/rythmmixfm ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:37] <leftyfb> RaimondRaj: if you run that, it will give you a URL
[15:38] <RaimondRaj> ls: cannot access '/home/rythmmixfm': No such file or directory
[15:38] <RaimondRaj> https://termbin.com/n5w3v
[15:38] <RaimondRaj> late respone
[15:39] <leftyfb> ok, so you deleted /home/rythmmixfm
[15:39] <leftyfb> either recreated it and change permissions on it or delete the user and recreate the user
[15:39] <RaimondRaj> might be
[15:40] <RaimondRaj> i seriusly dont know
[16:07] <furetto> Hi, I have ha problem: when I connect my headphone in the front jack of my case, the system doesn't detect it. In operating system windows works correctly. Thank all for your support
[16:18] <webchat87> When I turn on the laptop, the WiFi is connected, few seconds later it disconnects and can't find any WiFi network in visible networks list.
[16:21] <jhutchins> furetto: Do you get any sound out of it?
[16:21] <jhutchins> furetto: Have you opened the case to see if it's connected to anything?
[16:22] <jhutchins> webchat87: Why do you think there should be a visible network available?
[16:23] <furetto> jhutchins, no new audio output is detected when headphones are plugged in. I exclude possible hardware malfunctions because it works correctly on the Windows operating system.
[16:31] <webchat87> jhutchins: because my android phone can show active wifi networks, but my laptop can not. at first it connects to wifi, but few moments later it disconnects automatically and keeps scanning, but can't find any available wifi network in visible networks list. I am using Ubuntu 22.04 and my wifi adapter is Realtek RTL8822BE.
[16:35] <ravage> webchat87: does Software & Updates > Additional Drivers offer you any drivers for your wifi?
[16:37] <webchat87> ravage: no. there is not any additional driver available. all the programs are updated.
[16:37] <ravage> and which Ubuntu version are you on?
[16:38] <webchat87> ravage: ubuntu 22.04.2 lts
[16:42] <jhutchins> webchat87: What do the logs show about the disconnect?
[16:50] <webchat87> jhutchins: logs show: rtw_8822be failed to leave idle state, rtw_8822be failed to read ASPM, rtw_8822be failed to poll offset=0*5, mask=0*2, value=0*3 and rtw_8822be failed to power on mac.
[16:55] <tepperson> it appears my ubuntu installation is doing dhcp requests on port 67 instead of port 53. how do i get it to do dhcp requests on port 53?
[16:55] <jhutchins> webchat87: It looks like the most popular solution is to get a Linux/Ubuntu compatible adapter.
[16:56] <jhutchins> webchat87: Aparently Realtek changed the API and broke stuff.  Are you sure what you have is an 8822be?
[16:57] <webchat87> jhutchins: yes. i am sure that my wifi adapter is realtek RTL8822BE.
[16:58] <tepperson> wait maybe im being dumb
[16:59] <tomreyn> tepperson: dhcp is not dns
[17:00] <webchat87> jhutchins: is not rtl8822be a linux/ubuntu compatible adapter?
[17:01] <jhutchins> webchat87: Apparently not very compatible.
[17:01] <jhutchins> webchat87: There's a driver available on github, but it's a few years old and explicitly doesn't work with Ubuntu.
[17:02] <jhutchins> webchat87: I'll leave further web searches to you, there's no point in me transcribing them.
[17:02] <webchat87> jhutchins: now what do you suggest? how can i solve this issue? i can not use wifi for this problem.
[17:04] <jhutchins> A good way to check hardware compatibility is to try live images for various distros.  I think http://kernel.org has lists of officially supported chipsets.
[17:06] <tomreyn> how about https://askubuntu.com/a/1375904
[17:08] <jhutchins> webchat87: See above.
[17:08] <jhutchins> tomreyn: I did suggest further web searches.  Good find!
[17:08] <jhutchins> I found adapters with this chipset for less than $3 US.
[17:08] <dD__> is there a way to trace why apache is not responding to a connection?  I see the packets coming in, but apache ignores all of them.
[17:09] <jhutchins> dD__: By default Apache writes logs.  Their location depends on who wrote the config, but /var/log/apache is a good start.
[17:09] <tomreyn> jhutchins: it's not that i know this will actually work or improve anything, but it *might*
[17:09] <jhutchins> tomreyn: Worth a try at least.
[17:10] <jhutchins> tomreyn: It does sound like it specifically addresses the exact problem.
[17:10] <tomreyn> yes, it sounds like it could help
[17:10] <dD__> jhutchins: those logs are empty, it seems like apache doesn't see it at all.
[17:11] <dD__> this is with all connections, not with a particular one
[17:12] <jhutchins> dD__: localhost?
[17:12] <webchat87> jhutchinas: changing kernel will solve this issue? if yes, then definitely i will do.
[17:12] <jhutchins> webchat87: Why don't you try the suggestions in the link tomreyn posted?
[17:13] <webchat87> jhutchins: ok, i will try.
[17:13] <dD__> jhutchins: so I'm using it as a forward proxy, and it won't work locally either (trying running a curl -x
[17:13] <jhutchins> webchat87: The github driver is from 2020.
[17:14] <jhutchins> dD__: What's your "listen" config look like?
[17:14] <dD__> jhutchins: one sec.  Just for additional info, I tried using apache traffic server to see if that worked and I have the same problem, and firewall iptables is empty
[17:15] <webchat87> tomreyn: thanks for your suggestion.
[17:16] <jhutchins> webchat87: Keep track of what you change so you can change it back if it doesn't work.
[17:16] <jhutchins> dD__: Empty doesn't sound right, shouldn't there be ACCEPT settings?
[17:16] <webchat87> jhutchins: definitely i do.
[17:17] <tomreyn> webchat87: you're welcome
[17:26] <dD__> jhutchins: yes, sorry: https://termbin.com/lmwa, meant that we didn't have any block rules
[17:28] <dD__> !paste
[17:34] <furetto> Hi, I have ha problem: when I connect my headphone in the front jack of my case, the system doesn't detect it. In operating system windows works correctly. Thank all for your support
[17:39] <tomreyn> dD__: which ubuntu version are you running, how did you install ubuntu, what is the output of " cat /proc/version "?
[17:39] <dD__> virtualhost: https://dpaste.com/BXY9KHMTG, my ports.conf https://dpaste.com/CX2JYTUFL
[17:40] <tomreyn> !audio | furetto: i'm not good at debugging audio issues, but you can try these things (some of which are a bit outdated)
[17:42] <tomreyn> furetto: the SoundTroubleshooting page should provide information on how to produce an alsa-info report, which would provide a lot more information that would be needed by anyone trying to understand this issue.
[17:56] <k000> how to see the hdmi version?
[18:01] <Guest4467> Hi guys
[18:02] <Guest4467> Im considering using Whonix, but am worried about the small development team, potentially missing bugs.
[18:02] <Guest4467> COmpared to Ubuntu, where the security team is much larger
[18:02] <Guest4467> What do you guys think?
[18:02] <tomreyn> Guest4467: try asking in #linux, we don't recommend other distros or compare them here
[18:03] <furetto> i have this card audio https://pastebin.com/mcz8Ssi4
[18:03] <leftyfb> Guest4467: we're only going to suggest you use Ubuntu. I don't think it's reasonable to expect an Ubuntu support channel to suggest you use anything different
[18:04] <furetto> tomreyn, my report of alsa-info is http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=9f414f705044421d163de203e373d494b76c87a6
[18:05] <tomreyn> k000: i think you cannot, but you could guess: https://askubuntu.com/a/1207864
[18:06] <k000> tomreyn: this tip don't work. =(
[18:09] <tomreyn> k000: sudo dmidecode --type baseboard | grep -i 'product name'
[18:09] <tomreyn> then look up on the manufacturer website as to when this was released
[18:09] <tomreyn> furetto: glad this worked out, you took the first step.
[18:09] <leftyfb> tomreyn: I use sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name
[18:10] <leftyfb> or sudo dmidecode -s baseboard-product-name
[18:11] <tomreyn> leftyfb: those are no valid type keywords on older dmidecode versions, but thanks for pointing it out.
[18:11] <weedmic> I have ubuntu.  i tried prospect-mail to get mail through a openconnect and an etoken from safenet.  both of those items work fine.  however, prospect-mail did not seem to know how to use the etoken to login to microsoft.online - is there a way to put in a security module.  or better, is there a programme that can act enough like outlook to just work out of the box?
[18:12] <leftyfb> tomreyn: they're valid on all currently supported releases of ubuntu
[18:13] <leftyfb> weedmic: I use thunderbird to check email on an online Exchange server
[18:15] <weedmic> i see, i don't suppose there is a skin to make it look like outlook - i think it might be noticed, but I may try it.  how does thunderbird do with invites and calendar type things?
[18:15] <tomreyn> leftyfb: $ (lsb_release -ds; dmidecode --version; sudo dmidecode --type system-product-name; sudo dmidecode --type baseboard-product-name) |& nc termbin.com 9999
[18:15] <tomreyn> https://termbin.com/894vs
[18:16] <tomreyn> dmidecode package version is 3.1-1ubuntu0.1 FWIW
[18:16] <furetto> tomreyn, not work :(
[18:17] <tomreyn> furetto: Does Software & Updates > Additional Drivers offer you any drivers for your intel audio chipset?
[18:18] <leftyfb> tomreyn: it's a string, -s, not type -t
[18:18] <tomreyn> leftyfb: oh, whoops
[18:18] <tomreyn> right, that works, thanks
[18:18] <leftyfb> I checked it back to 16.04 with dmidecode 3.0 :)
[18:31] <dragon_> Is there any open source library systems in Package Manager?
[18:32] <leftyfb> dragon_: can you provide more context?
[18:33] <dragon_> I work in a private library, historical society. We have a rather large collection of books, documents, pictures, ... that need registration. I am just wondering if Ubuntu is cooperating with any of the open source library systems
[18:34] <dragon_> So far we have these evergrowing spread sheets, exel
[18:35] <dragon_> They work quite well, but there is no proper dewey or anything like that. We have simplefied a bit, and made our own archiving categories
[18:35] <dragon_> This is a physical library, old books, new books, ....
[18:36] <jhutchins> dragon_: Calibre is the only one I know of.
[18:36] <leftyfb> dragon_: I just searched apt: maybe look at tellico
[18:36] <dragon_> I shall take a look at Calibre, and have noticed evergreen too
[18:36] <jhutchins> dragon_: They are a big, competitive business.  You might have some luck checking with systems that support law firms (law libraries).
[18:37] <hggdh> I have heard of vufind, but never used it
[18:37] <jhutchins> (Note that just because they're big commercial systems doesn't mean they're any good.  At all.
[18:37] <tomreyn> dragon_: https://packages.ubuntu.com lets you search which ubuntu release provides a given software. i'm not familiar with open source library (management) systems, but there seem to be several, as seen on a web search for "library management software"
[18:38] <dragon_> I am new to the open source libaries too, hoping there are some equivalents to the public systems I am used to
[18:38] <jhutchins> Note that "library" in the software community does not refer to a collection of books.
[18:38] <dragon_> I know, but I don`t know quite what it means either
[18:39] <jhutchins> dragon_: Usually a collection of routines for use in writing programs.
[18:40] <dragon_> I see
[18:42] <dragon_> There are international standards for library systems (the paper and book kind, of course digital documents too). I hoped to find something that was flexible and manageable
[18:43] <dragon_> Calibre seems to be only e-books?
[18:43] <tomreyn> i would think so, too
[18:44] <jhutchins> dragon_: Hardcopy is a little harder, you have to enter all the metadata yourself.
[18:44] <tomreyn> you could possibly scan isbn's
[18:45] <jhutchins> tomreyn: I was going to do that with a CueCat, but I discoverd about a third of my most important collection doesn't have them.
[18:45] <tomreyn> oh, that's a lot
[18:46] <jhutchins> dragon_: Not sure what kind of organization you have, but it's worth hiring a library science student to help process them.
[18:46] <jhutchins> I still have the CueCat... somewhere.
[18:49] <dragon_> I have typed down thousands of books manually over the last 18months, two years in may lol
[18:49] <dragon_> title, year, number of pages, category, author, publisher...
[18:50] <dragon_> I doubt it is possible to make it automatic in any practical way
[18:51] <dragon_> mark the books with tags and icons, print, tape.....
[18:51] <jhutchins> dragon_: If I recall the CueCat project, you can get the catalog info from google with the ISBN.  There have been scripts that automated that.
[18:51] <dragon_> It is an older library that needed totally renovation
[18:51] <dragon_> I shall look into it
[18:51] <dragon_> for newer books it might work
[18:52] <jhutchins> It's the kind of project that really pays to have professional help.
[18:52] <dragon_> I don`t doubt it
[18:52] <dragon_> However, I am suppose to be one of the professonals lol
[18:53] <dragon_> I do not have education as librarian, but as historian I am forced to be flexible
[18:54] <jhutchins> dragon_: Take a librarian to lunch.  (University librarians recommended.)
[19:05] <bleb> trying 22.10 live cd on my laptop; youtube sound not working.  and I don't see anything about sound in the icons/menus in the top right corner.
[19:05] <bleb> anying I might try to get sound working?
[19:06] <leftyfb> bleb: install ubuntu and do updates
[19:07] <dragon_> jhutchins; good idea
[19:08] <dragon_> yes, I think it is that htop thing or sound settings
[19:09] <Menzador> bleb: Your sound hardware may have a driver the kernel doesn't have
[19:09] <Menzador> worst case, anyway
[19:13] <bleb> it is intel alder lake audio
[19:17] <Menzador> That should be snd_hda_intel I think
[19:17] <Menzador> That's in the kernel
[19:25] <bleb> can I ask the ubuntu installer not to install a bootloader?
[19:26] <bleb> the custom installation dialog has a dropdown menu under "Device for boot loader installation:"
[19:26] <bleb> but it seems I have to pick one
[19:27] <bleb> I would like to let my other linux partition handle the bootloader
[19:29] <tomreyn> bleb: if this is an uefi booting system, the boot loader will be installed on the first (currently) visible efi system partition no matter what you choose there
[19:29] <bleb> I suppose I can just re-install grub from the other partition after installing ubuntu
[19:29] <tomreyn> the desktop installer does not provide the ability to complete the installation without installing a boot loader.
[19:30] <bleb> tomreyn: if I select my main disk and hit "install now" I get an error message saying "No EFI System Partition was found."
[19:31] <bleb> so I guess it wants me to manually indicate the efi system partition (this is in the custom partitioning dialog)
[19:32] <bleb> I have a 4gb fat32 partition that I am using for esp but it looks like the installer didn't pick it up automatically
[19:32] <tomreyn> this message probably means that no existing ESP could be found and that you will need to create one in manual partitioning (or have ubuntu create one automatically by not entering manual partitioning)
[19:33] <EriC^^> bleb: select the partition and for type choose efi
[19:34] <bleb> I think I can just select the existing one and select "Use as: EFI System Partition"
[19:34] <tomreyn> does your existing partition have the esp flag?
[19:34] <bleb> wonder if it should have seen it automatically
[19:35] <bleb> tomreyn: can I check for that in fdisk or something?
[19:36] <tomreyn> sudo parted /dev/sda print
[19:38] <bleb> ok yeah it doesn't have the esp flag
[19:39] <bleb> I will change the type to EFI System and see if the installer picks it up
[19:42] <bleb> yup that made the difference
[19:43] <bleb> I guess I will just install then later re-install grub from the partition I want
[19:55] <bleb> okay so after updates the sound settings don't show any output device
[19:56] <bleb> I guess my sound card is too new
[20:03] <bleb> now that ubuntu overwrote grub, I can still see alpine linux
[20:03] <bleb> but if I select it it says "error: kernel doesn't support EFI handover.  error: you need to load the kernel first."
[20:04] <bleb> so now I have to figure out how to undo that
[20:50] <nelgin> Urgh. I just tried to update ubuntu 20.04 to 22.04 and it paniced and now it won't boot. I don't even see a grub menu. /dev/root cannot open blockdev  is the first error I get. I'm about to create a bootable usb but anyone have any advice before I get stuck into trying to recover?
[20:51] <sarnold> I've not faced that myself but my guesses are names in /etc/fstab that might have changed between 20.04 and 22.04
[20:55] <nelgin> I hope not, but at least that'd be an easy fix.
[20:56] <flataerth> what's the biggest IRC server?
[20:57] <leftyfb> !ot | flataerth
[20:58] <flataerth> how do i change my  irc name?
[21:00] <sarnold> flataerth: /nick newnick
[21:01] <sarnold> flataerth: https://netsplit.de/ for more info on more irc networks
[21:01] <leftyfb> sarnold: go to #libera for help IRC. You've been told this before
[21:02] <sarnold> leftyfb: whatever your problems with irc, let me assure you mine are worse
[21:02] <nelgin> 2What a frickin' pain :(
[21:02] <leftyfb> bah
[21:02] <leftyfb> sorry :)
[21:03] <leftyfb> flataerth: type:   /join #libera     and hit enter. Then ask for help with IRC there
[21:06] <rdz> Hey all. I'm running Ubuntu 22.04 on a Thinkpad T14s Gen 3 and when I put it to sleep it still uses significant power. From what I understand, it performs suspend-to-idle when putting it to sleep, which apparently is different from suspend-to-ram (S3). s2idle is the only available option in /sys/power/mem_sleep. 'deep' (the more common S3 / suspend-to-RAM) is not available.
[21:11] <sarnold> rdz: please file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug linux'
[21:11] <rdz> sarnold: ok.. thanks
[21:12] <sarnold> rdz: it might be useful to mention if you've got devices attached when suspending, I've heard those can sometimes influence the suspend phase; but if the 'better' sleep modes are just missing, it might just be extraneous..
[21:13] <Znevna> that laptop most likely doesn't have S3 support
[21:13] <esj> rdz: fwiw i had that on a different thinkpad a while back and a firmware update fixed it
[21:13] <Znevna> can't see the linux bug in that
[21:13] <rdz> Znevna: it has, when I set it in UEFI BIOS. However, using that has the side effect that touchpad becomes unresponsive after waking up from suspend
[21:14] <Znevna> try explaining that again?
[21:14] <rdz> and cpu runs hot then withouth any user processor showing high cpu usage.. so i suspend its  a driver munching cycles
[21:16] <rdz> Znevna: there is an option in the UEFI BIOS Power Settings to switch between 'S3 (Linux)' 'Windows and Linux' (which apparently is s2idle). WHen I set it to 'S3 (Linux)', suspend-to-ram seems to work and power usage is very low during sleep.
[21:16] <Znevna> ok
[21:16] <rdz> However, with 'S3 (Linux)' the touchpad becomes unresponsive after waking up
[21:17] <rdz> so i have to reboot after each sleep
[21:17] <Znevna> that might be a bug
[21:17] <Znevna> latest bios?
[21:17] <rdz> I read somewhere that recommended setting is s2idle
[21:17] <Znevna> >.>
[21:17] <rdz> Znevna: the latest available from Lenovo, yes
[21:19] <Znevna> sad then :p
[21:19] <rdz> https://01.org/blogs/qwang59/2018/how-achieve-s0ix-states-linux talks about how you can check whether s2idle actually works at is supposed to
[21:19] <EriC^^> rdz: maybe you could modprobe remove and back in for the touchpad to work?
[21:20] <rdz> it says that when doing s2idle, that should be reflected in the /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuidle/low_power_idle_system_residency_us to count upwards.. but here on my system it stays  0
[21:20] <EriC^^> rdz: or maybe it's just disabled somehow and needs re-enabling
[21:20] <rdz> EriC^^: how can rmmod modules that are compiled in?
[21:22] <rdz> i mean: can i rmmod  modules that are compiled into the kernel? and how can I identify which module it is? I think I could live with performing a rmmod/insmod cycle after each sleep
[21:22] <sarnold> lsmod will show loaded modules, you might be able to guess the module from the names
[21:22] <EriC^^> rdz: if you can figure out how to fix it from the terminal, you can add a line in /etc/..pm.sleep/ or so i forgot to have it done automatically after resuming
[21:22] <rdz> sarnold: i'll check. Thanks.
[21:23] <sarnold> some commands like lspci have options to show kernel drivers, but I strongly doubt a touchpad is pcie device
[21:23] <sarnold> it's probably in /sys somewhere but i can never find what I want in there quickl
[21:23] <EriC^^> rdz: maybe see gsettings list-recursively | grep touchpad to see if anything there is disabled, or similar
[21:24] <EriC^^> rdz: also not sure if it helps but the acpi stuff passed through grub might help, if linux pretends to be windows
[21:24] <rdz> EriC^^: what acpi stuff?
[21:26] <rdz> I found hid_multitouch. this might be the touchpad?
[21:27] <sarnold> very promising; it might be *one* of the modules for it, that might be a 'higher-level' module that offers some multitouch features but still relies on device-specific modules for the data to work with
[21:27] <nelgin> Things are looking hopeful.
[21:28] <jhutchins> rdz: The problem is that the standards for slee/hibernate are pretty loose, and it's hard to accomodate all of the different manufacturers.
[21:28] <sarnold> nelgin: woot
[21:28] <jhutchins> sleep/hibernate.
[21:28] <jhutchins> They're not even labled consistently.
[21:29] <sarnold> sleep and hibernate are different things
[21:35] <nelgin> Seems to have hung on live-patch-status
[21:35] <EriC^^> rdz: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[21:37] <rdz> EriC^^: thanks for the link
[21:38] <EriC^^> rdz: no problem
[21:39] <jhutchins> sarnold: True, and not consistently the same thing on different hardware.
[21:39] <jhutchins> sarnold: Would you say "sleep" is suspend-to-ram and hibernate is suspend-to-disk?
[21:41] <sarnold> jhutchins: yeah, that's what i'm most familiar with
[21:45] <ZuumZuum> how to i join the libera chanel
[21:45] <leftyfb> ZuumZuum: the same way you did 40 minutes ago
[21:46] <leftyfb> ZuumZuum: you type:  /join #libera
[21:46] <leftyfb> and you figured it out 20 seconds afer you asked
[21:47] <jhutchins> leftyfb: That's the fastest way to figure something out: Post a question to the internet.
[21:53] <sarnold> at least he's figured out how to change his name :)
[22:03] <morgan-u2> What's the best story on running android apps on my Ubu22.04 system?
[22:04] <sarnold> morgan-u2: probably anbox is the place to start looking
[22:05] <morgan-u2> I did some searching and there are a number of different suggestions.
[22:05] <sarnold> ah, good
[22:08] <morgan-u2> ok sarnold, also the 2023 article says anbox.
[22:08] <morgan-u2> https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-run-android-apps-on-linux/
[22:10] <ZuumZuumFLatReLm> sarnold thanks lol
[22:10] <ZuumZuumFLatReLm> my hexchat won't work
[22:10] <ZuumZuumFLatReLm> only linux help channel works lol
[22:10] <ZuumZuumFLatReLm> hence why i use xchat
[22:14] <morgan-u2> ZuumZuumFLatReLm, if you have one channel /server than hexchat does work and you need to carfully follow the steps to ADD A SERVER
[22:14] <morgan-u2> then
[22:15] <jhutchins> ZuumZuumFLatReLm: You may need to look into connecting to different irc networks.  That's a hexchat question, not an Ubuntu question, but some people here do use hexchat.
[22:15] <leftyfb> ZuumZuumFLatReLm: please don't crosspost. They are helping you in #libera. Post the screenshot like they are asking for
[22:16] <morgan-u2> Forgive me guys for teaching hexchat on the ubu help channel --  go to hexchat menu, network servers, new give a name and end with the ENTER command. then choose edit and fill in the url for the server. This is irc.libera.chat and is not ssl.
[22:16] <nelgin> Ok, well, I rebooted and my raid disks are not showing up and it drops into diag mode.
[22:16] <morgan-u2> zum goli goli that's all you need
[22:16] <leftyfb> ZuumZuumFLatReLm: https://askubuntu.com/a/1339705
[22:45] <nelgin> Ok. I'm updated to 22.04.2 but there's a problem with my USB modems. They are recognized but not tty device (ttyACM0 etc) are created and neither is /dev/ttyUSB0 which is a serial connection.
[22:50] <nelgin> Please don't tell me they removed the cdc_acm driver
[22:52] <leftyfb> nelgin: sudo modprobe cdc_acm
[22:52] <nelgin> modprobe: FATAL: Module cdc_acm not found in directory /lib/modules/5.19.0-32-generic
[22:53] <tomreyn> sudo modprobe cdc-acm
[22:55] <leftyfb> nelgin: sudo apt install linux-modules-extra-$(uname -r)
[22:56] <nelgin> Ah, beautiful. Thank you.
[22:57] <nelgin> So now just need to find the missing ttyUSB and I'll be set.
[22:58] <leftyfb> nelgin: load the module, watch dmesg, unplug device, plug device back in
[22:59] <nelgin> Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial Port
[22:59] <nelgin> It's one of those things.
[22:59] <leftyfb> dmesg should tell you which device it assigned to it
[23:00] <nelgin> Yeah I'm about to a look, give me a sec.
[23:01] <leftyfb> nelgin: sudo dmesg -TW
[23:02] <nelgin> I'm looking from the boot up, it's behind the computer and I can't get to it right now, I'd have to drag a crap load of stuff out.
[23:02] <leftyfb> probably quicker to just reboot then
[23:03] <nelgin> Well, it's already in the dmesg buffer so why would I do that?
[23:03] <leftyfb> because the module wasn't loaded when the device was plugged in
[23:04] <nelgin> Which module?
[23:05] <leftyfb> the module you were concerned about that we told you how to load, cdc_acm
[23:05] <nelgin> Which is for the USB modems.
[23:05] <nelgin> That has nothing to do with the usb serial port.
[23:06] <leftyfb> sudo dmesg -T |grep "attached to tto"
[23:06] <leftyfb> sudo dmesg -T |grep "attached to tty"
[23:07] <nelgin> nothing.
[23:07] <nelgin> I can go ahead and reboot.
[23:08] <nelgin> Looks like usbserial wasn't loaded either so probably missing other stuff.
[23:10] <nelgin> Ok, there it is.
[23:10] <nelgin> What an effing pain in the rear.
[23:23] <nelgin> leftyfb, thanks for your invaluable assistance.
[23:41] <rdz> Znevna, EriC^^ I'm not the only one with the powerdrain during s2idle problem. Someone already reported the problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1938096
[23:41] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1938096 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Lenovo X1 Carbon 9th] [SYNA8009:00 06CB:CE57] touchpad lagging after resume from suspend" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[23:41] <nelgin> and tomreyn also. Thank you.
[23:41] <rdz> I have a different Thinkpad model, but behaviour is the same: laggy touchpad with 'S3' or high powerdrain with S2idle
[23:43] <rdz> EriC^^: I found the module that causes trouble: i2c_hid_acpi. However, unloading and loading it doesn't help. I see a drop in CPU usage when removing it, though.