[01:05] Hello community, I have this very frustrating problem where my laptop's touchpad is not working as expected. During two-finger scrolling, the page will often jump/skip more than it should. I have tried several things like updating drivers and changing between xinput and synaptics drivers. But I'm not experienced in this type of debugging and could [01:05] really appreciate if someone could help me out. I have followed instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection/evtest so I have an evtest logfile ready, as well as my xinput output. What would be the best way to share this (and the correct channel if this is not it)? [01:38] has anyone got rsync working pulling data from a windows machine [01:40] Peppi^, i suspect people do - are you running into trouble? [01:43] Habbie, not yet just wanted to know what the proper way of doing it [01:44] with the Ubuntu autoinstaller in 20.04 or 22.04, is there a way to get it to not use the random DUID when requesting DHCP lease? In the answerfile, settinh dhcp-identifier:mac doesn't work. I need to hand out static leases based on mac addresses for the installation. Alternately is there a way to get systemd-networkd to release the dhcp lease? Release functionality seems to be missing. I can't fix [01:44] any of this on the braindead juniper dhcp server I must use that cannot match on things other than mac for static dhcp leases. I've been beating my head against the wall for the last couple of days. Googling has been unhelpful. I've seen others with similiar issues and no solution. [01:47] Peppi^, ah [01:47] Peppi^, honestly sounds like a windows question though [01:51] Habbie, well maybe the rsync client is on ubuntu so not so sure it's a 100% windows questions [01:51] sure, but i feel the hard part is setting up rsyncd or sshd on windows [01:52] not sure hence why I was asking here also [01:52] to be clear, i'm just trying to help you get the best answers - one step is getting your question clearer, another step might be "you should ask in another place" [01:52] appreciated [01:53] good :) [01:53] so is your problem the ubuntu side or the windows side? [01:53] I mean windows does have "Windows Subsystem for Linux"... so [01:54] I just figured there might be a person here who uses rsync and has transfered files from a windows machine [01:55] the windows channel probably have a lot less people who have used rsync [01:56] There is a rsync.exe for windows and you can install that as a service in Windows I think [01:56] for example if I went to windows and asked for a backup system I doubt rsync would crack top 10. VS here if I asked for a backup solution rsync is probably top 3 [01:56] But that really is off topic here :) [01:57] You can also have a look at cygwin === msyke1 is now known as msyke === joe is now known as Guest6908 [02:54] I recently reinstalled latest Ubuntu on a fresh brand-new SSD drive. For about a week, my computer seemed a bit slower than it had been with the old drive that had the same Ubuntu release installed. When I would run a lot of processes (i.e., when many tabs were open on webbrowser), it would hang where it would not before. But for some reason, [02:54] lately it has seemingly become very much faster or able to run the same process load without ever hanging at all. Yet I didn't change any settings. All I've done was apt update/upgrade. Does anyone know how this could be? Am I crazy? [02:58] cobraeriko: these machines do so much stuff in the background these days that it's entirely plausible to me that it'd be obnoxiously slow one day and reasonable enough the next day and there be no obvious reason for why [03:00] sarnold: very interesting [03:01] that's good to know [03:13] One last question, I have a kvm virtual machine running in the background that serves a live website (a Ubuntu server with a web-app). Is it ok if I simply allow the host's Ubuntu to suspend in periods of inactivity instead of shitting down the computer? It's worked for me so far [03:14] heh, yeah, if you don't really care about the website being up and running all the time that's fine [03:16] Cool. Thank you [03:24] actually since I do care about the website being up and running all the time, I've just been letting the screen shutoff with inactivity (besides also closing any open apps and stuff before leaving). Is this fine? [03:25] yeah that's much better :) [03:25] it's not a bad idea to lock the screen manually when walking away from the computer [03:27] sarnold: yea, I'll add that too. Thanks again [04:34] Good morning. I've got a big problem [04:35] I just did an update via discover and after the restart plasma was suddenly deleted [04:35] can anyone help please [04:36] for info kubuntu 22.10 kde plasma 5.27 === routebee is now known as route-bee [04:56] how to prevent bluetooth mouse from sleeping at all on linux? [04:58] leftyfb: Okay, I would try it now [05:00] https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v6.2.1/ | Which mainline kernel should I select for T16 Gen1 AMD laptop with 6850U processor [05:41] I installed the mainline kernel [05:41] but I had to turn off the secureboot [05:41] I see a lot of missing AMDGPU things when I do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade [05:44] https://paste.debian.net/plainh/6784760e [05:44] These are the set of missing firmwares [05:51] hiya, try "apt install linux-firmware" [05:51] but I am on mainline kernel now, would it break something? I had installed with secureboot with password and all [05:52] linux-firmware is already the newest version (20220923.gitf09bebf3-0ubuntu1.4) [05:52] here are some possible options: https://9to5answer.com/missing-firmware-for-amdgpu [05:55] Jazzy_J: but many files just aren't there [05:55] I think they aren't needed only [05:55] even in the git link [06:11] it says there '*Possible* missing firmware' are you having any issues or only this message? because if theres no problem, this is safe to ignore [06:13] Good morning, everyone! How can I create a fresh .config/dconf/user file from the result of a `dconf dump /` *without* a running session? Is there a `dconf load` option to create a fresh file? === pikapika is now known as WilhelmII [06:47] lolok: Yes, only the message I have the problem with [06:47] I think these are those non-fatal informational messages [06:57] yes, they are telling you that the driver can run more different cards, if you find the firmware, but if all is good, then theres nothing to do assuming you only boot this os on 1 system [07:05] lolok: I am using AMD6850U processor with embedded GPU [07:05] I just have sleep/wake up issues when I close the lid [07:05] it would crash internally with default kernel on 22.04 [07:05] hence I am trying mainline kernel 6.2.1 [07:05] Does mainline kernel update by itself? or do I need to do it each time? [07:07] yea a very new cpu, unfortunately such problems are not uncommon on recent hardware, probably you can disable automatic sleep on lid close [07:07] lolok: do I need to update the mainline kernel myself each time? [07:08] So I just check the stable option here: https://kernel.org/ [07:08] and update right? [07:08] unsure, i use lts, maybe someone else will answer [07:23] lolok: don't use LTS bro, get latest and greatest :P jk jk [07:39] ubuntu for server, arch for desktop, 6.2.1 left testing repo yesterday [07:39] Ok === cryocaustik9 is now known as cryocaustik [08:24] * luna continues with the Swedish Lomiri translation [09:18] How can I verify what Gnome Power Profile is currently active from terminal? [09:19] I believe it is not setting to Power Save mode when I select it from GUI [09:37] k/18 [10:45] !mainline [10:45] The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [10:45] hiya, ^^^ [10:45] do *not* use mainline PPA kernels in production ! [10:46] (read the wiki page) [10:47] ogra: I am using it on my main laptop [10:48] hiya, well, don't do that ... they are missing about 400 (security) patches, use the wrong config and are solely for testing (and as you noticed already tey will never update) [10:48] if yu see issues in userspace, please do not ask for support here ... it is very likely caused by wrong or missing config options or patches in these kernels [10:49] they are really only for testing if some fix landed when a kernel team member asks you to install them to verify the fix is upstream ... you should never use them on a daily basis [10:56] ogra: Okay, I will see what I can do, I think I just need a rolling release then [10:58] so I should just uninstall them and switch back to normal kernel [11:00] ogra: how to update the kernel in Ubuntu then? I have a new laptop and I need latest kernel [11:00] Should I use a different distro? [11:01] you should check out the -hwe and -oem kernels if they provide what your hardware needs ... if it does not i fear waiting is your best option .. [11:02] ogra: I have a ThinkPad T16 Gen1 with AMD 6850U [11:02] What kernel do you think is best? [11:02] no idea [11:03] you could try asking the kernel team in #ubuntu-kernel ... but i suspec even them wont look closely at different laptop models unless they have specific bugs to fix for a certain machine [11:04] Ok [11:04] what exacly does not work with the default kernel ? [11:04] ogra: AMDGPU driver crashes in between [11:05] and wake up won't work most of the time when you close the lid [11:05] with the one shipped in the archive ? [11:05] It came without any OS [11:05] with which AMDGPU driver do you experience the crashes ? [11:06] i.e. des it behave crashy right after fresh install of the OS ? [11:06] Yes, it always does [11:06] or did you add some third-party amd driver [11:06] I tried with 20.04,22.04 [11:06] No 3rd party drivers [11:07] [ 6878.377221] sr 1:0:0:0: [sr0] tag#19 unaligned transfer, [ 6878.377223] blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 6 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 0, [ 6878.377227] Buffer I/O error on dev sr0, logical block 6, async page read [11:07] ===> I see these errors in many different PCs with Ubuntu 22.04, and on both the 5.19.0-32 and then 5.15.0-60 kernel. There is NO cdrom inserted when these messages appear. The result is that the PC is veeeery slow, similar to having 100% disk usage [11:07] so first of all, file a bug with "ubuntu-bug linux" ... to make the kernel devs aware, else it will never get fixed ... but make sur you use the actual kernel, not the mainline one [11:07] I think I have to move to 5.19.x again, but I have to reboot for it and enable secureboot again. [11:07] ...anyone else has seen this issue, any launchpad bugs for it? [11:07] P.S. it probably started in the last kernel updates [11:08] ogra: I met a dev of Ubuntu in thinkpad chan, he also confirmed it, he said it would be fixed in 23.04 [11:08] Hi I use UBUNTU_22.10 on my HP Laptop. I need to create a WIN_11 Startup disk for my Dell Laptop, I have the ISO but I don't seem to able to select it in the Startup Disk Creator. Any words of help? [11:09] hiya, wll, if you are brave you could run 23.04 🙂 it is already in feature-freeze [11:09] ogra: I am super duper brave always [11:09] * alkisg realizes he should have posted in #ubuntu-kernel instead; heading there... [11:09] alkisg, yeah, i have definitey not seen sr0 in any logs for a long time .... [11:09] Hi please help, I have post this above [11:10] I use UBUNTU_22.10 on my HP Laptop. I need to create a WIN_11 Startup disk for my Dell Laptop, I have the ISO but I don't seem to able to select it in the Startup Disk Creator. Any words of help? [11:10] ogra: so mainline kernel is by no means safe? [11:11] fuck you all [11:11] and your big boobed mums [11:13] hiya, right, you will see issues in userspace due to missing config options and such ... like power-mgmt might not work, apps expecting certain features wil not find them and silently fail etc etc [11:14] ogra: I will move to default kernel again and try to move to 23.04 :P or just wait [11:14] Or another distro, I thought Ubuntu was bleeding edge :P [11:14] I am on 22.10 [11:14] hiya, get your system back into a pristine state, then "sudo do-release-update -d" should get you onto 23.04 [11:15] but I think it might break a lot of things, right? [11:15] there are surely still some rough edges, but the release is already in freeze, so the worst changes have landed and are just getting fixes for release now [11:20] ogra: When would it release? [11:20] April? [11:21] hiya, in april (04) of this year (23) ... as the version number 23.04 tells 😉 [11:21] I think I should just bear until then [11:22] I don't know but this mainline kernel is working solid [11:22] :P [11:22] I tried 11,15,21m of sleep with lid closed and it opened every time [11:40] hiya: ubuntu 22.04 has up to kernels 6.1 in the stock repositories currently, that's higher than the 5.19 of 22.10 [11:45] oh, right linux-oem-22.04c should be 6.1 [11:45] then why the heck am I using 22.10 ? :P [11:56] alkisg: can I downgrade from 22.10 to 22.04? [11:56] or would it break the system? [11:56] but oem-22, which oem is it? [11:56] hiya: no, you'd need to reinstall but you can keep /home [11:57] hi [11:58] hiya: ogra just mentioned wich kernel [11:58] nope, I think which OEM does this kernel belong to? [11:58] Dell, HP? [11:58] Or is it generic? [11:59] hiya: I didn't read all the converation, but if you just care about the highest kernel number, `apt install linux-oem-22.04` will give you linux-image-oem-22.04c [11:59] linux-image-6.1.0-1006-oem [11:59] I mean* [11:59] but which OEM is it? [11:59] Dell, HP or Lenovo? [12:00] thats not how it works hiya [12:00] all of them ... it carries random patches for OEM devices that will land in a later -gerneic kernel [12:01] Ok [12:01] some brands will pick specific oem kernel versions for a reason too [12:01] like dell has some specific ones [12:01] the -oem means it is done by the cannical oem team that works closer with vendors [12:01] it doesnt mean "a specific OEM" [12:02] *canonical oem team [12:02] like arraybolt3 recently mentioned his kubuntu focus laptop came with 5.17 by default [12:03] Okay [12:20] Hello World [13:04] Hyyy [13:04] Heya [13:05] Last version of ubuntu is 22.10? [13:06] Farted: yes [13:06] Not last, but latest [13:06] Upcoming release is 23.04 [13:08] Which I use 22 LTS or 22.10 ? [13:08] there are two versions [13:09] get 22.04. it has longer support [13:09] !lts | Farted [13:09] Farted: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions are supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Jammy (Jammy Jellyfish 22.04). Ubuntu !flavors may have different support durations, check their release notes for information. [13:11] But what means long support [13:12] Are there any new features for LTS or is it only updated as security maintenance? [13:13] security only [13:13] but that is the case for every ubuntu release [13:13] (+ bug fixes) [13:21] Hi, I have ha problem: when I connect my headphone in the front jack of my case, the system doesn't detect it. Thank all for your support [13:23] furetto: have you tried with other headphone? perhaps the connector is broken [13:25] SteelRose, yes, the connector work, on operating system windows work correctly [13:38] upgrade your firmware [13:40] Hi all [13:44] hi [15:04] adduser: The user `rythmmixfm' already exists. but cant be seen [15:04] can anyone help [15:04] !adduser | RaimondRaj [15:04] RaimondRaj: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "sudo" - See !sudo [15:05] lotuspsychje [15:05] the username already adduser but cant see in folder [15:05] adduser: The user `rythmmixfm' already exists. [15:09] RaimondRaj: ok, so what is the problem exactly? The user exists. You don't need to create the user again. Now what is missing or not working? [15:12] the user name that i need to create is already have [15:12] i wanted to bring it back [15:12] and also delete some user [15:13] userdel: user jeitrivia02 is currently used by process 4399 [15:13] some user i cant delete it [15:13] RaimondRaj: 1 problem at a time [15:13] ok now [15:13] RaimondRaj: rythmmixfm why do you need to create the user if it already exists? [15:14] i want to delet username jeitrivia02 but its show like this ( userdel: user jeitrivia02 is currently used by process 4399 ) [15:14] please help me solve jeitrivia02 issue [15:14] RaimondRaj: reboot [15:14] then try again [15:14] i dont want make u confues [15:15] or sudo kill -9 4399 # if you don't care what that user might have been running [15:16] wait yah [15:17] leftyfb : solve it [15:18] i have create username rythmmixfm but its show ( adduser: The user `rythmmixfm' already exists. ) [15:18] went i see the list useing WINSCP i didnt see the folder name rythmmixfm [15:22] RaimondRaj: uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; getent passwd|grep rythmmixfm ; ls -ld /home/rythmmixfm ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:26] -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)' [15:26] sorry [15:26] RaimondRaj: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; getent passwd|grep rythmmixfm ; ls -ld /home/rythmmixfm ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:27] ls: cannot access '/home/rythmmixfm': No such file or directory [15:28] let me reboot [15:29] RaimondRaj: if you would like help troubleshooting, it's not suggested you take it upon yourself to just reboot or make changes that weren't given [15:29] RaimondRaj: and you didn't post the URL here [15:36] i dnt have any url [15:36] i already reebot it [15:37] RaimondRaj: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ; getent passwd|grep rythmmixfm ; ls -ld /home/rythmmixfm ) | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:37] RaimondRaj: if you run that, it will give you a URL [15:38] ls: cannot access '/home/rythmmixfm': No such file or directory [15:38] https://termbin.com/n5w3v [15:38] late respone [15:39] ok, so you deleted /home/rythmmixfm [15:39] either recreated it and change permissions on it or delete the user and recreate the user [15:39] might be [15:40] i seriusly dont know === paulneocube is now known as neocube === shokohsc68 is now known as shokohsc6 === krabador is now known as Guest3555 [16:07] Hi, I have ha problem: when I connect my headphone in the front jack of my case, the system doesn't detect it. In operating system windows works correctly. Thank all for your support [16:18] When I turn on the laptop, the WiFi is connected, few seconds later it disconnects and can't find any WiFi network in visible networks list. [16:21] furetto: Do you get any sound out of it? [16:21] furetto: Have you opened the case to see if it's connected to anything? [16:22] webchat87: Why do you think there should be a visible network available? [16:23] jhutchins, no new audio output is detected when headphones are plugged in. I exclude possible hardware malfunctions because it works correctly on the Windows operating system. [16:31] jhutchins: because my android phone can show active wifi networks, but my laptop can not. at first it connects to wifi, but few moments later it disconnects automatically and keeps scanning, but can't find any available wifi network in visible networks list. I am using Ubuntu 22.04 and my wifi adapter is Realtek RTL8822BE. [16:35] webchat87: does Software & Updates > Additional Drivers offer you any drivers for your wifi? === DocMors_ is now known as DocMors [16:37] ravage: no. there is not any additional driver available. all the programs are updated. [16:37] and which Ubuntu version are you on? [16:38] ravage: ubuntu 22.04.2 lts [16:42] webchat87: What do the logs show about the disconnect? === alkisg is now known as alkisg_irc === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg [16:50] jhutchins: logs show: rtw_8822be failed to leave idle state, rtw_8822be failed to read ASPM, rtw_8822be failed to poll offset=0*5, mask=0*2, value=0*3 and rtw_8822be failed to power on mac. [16:55] it appears my ubuntu installation is doing dhcp requests on port 67 instead of port 53. how do i get it to do dhcp requests on port 53? [16:55] webchat87: It looks like the most popular solution is to get a Linux/Ubuntu compatible adapter. [16:56] webchat87: Aparently Realtek changed the API and broke stuff. Are you sure what you have is an 8822be? [16:57] jhutchins: yes. i am sure that my wifi adapter is realtek RTL8822BE. [16:58] wait maybe im being dumb [16:59] tepperson: dhcp is not dns [17:00] jhutchins: is not rtl8822be a linux/ubuntu compatible adapter? [17:01] webchat87: Apparently not very compatible. [17:01] webchat87: There's a driver available on github, but it's a few years old and explicitly doesn't work with Ubuntu. [17:02] webchat87: I'll leave further web searches to you, there's no point in me transcribing them. [17:02] jhutchins: now what do you suggest? how can i solve this issue? i can not use wifi for this problem. [17:04] A good way to check hardware compatibility is to try live images for various distros. I think http://kernel.org has lists of officially supported chipsets. [17:06] how about https://askubuntu.com/a/1375904 [17:08] webchat87: See above. [17:08] tomreyn: I did suggest further web searches. Good find! [17:08] I found adapters with this chipset for less than $3 US. [17:08] is there a way to trace why apache is not responding to a connection? I see the packets coming in, but apache ignores all of them. [17:09] dD__: By default Apache writes logs. Their location depends on who wrote the config, but /var/log/apache is a good start. [17:09] jhutchins: it's not that i know this will actually work or improve anything, but it *might* [17:09] tomreyn: Worth a try at least. [17:10] tomreyn: It does sound like it specifically addresses the exact problem. [17:10] yes, it sounds like it could help [17:10] jhutchins: those logs are empty, it seems like apache doesn't see it at all. [17:11] this is with all connections, not with a particular one [17:12] dD__: localhost? [17:12] jhutchinas: changing kernel will solve this issue? if yes, then definitely i will do. [17:12] webchat87: Why don't you try the suggestions in the link tomreyn posted? [17:13] jhutchins: ok, i will try. [17:13] jhutchins: so I'm using it as a forward proxy, and it won't work locally either (trying running a curl -x [17:13] webchat87: The github driver is from 2020. [17:14] dD__: What's your "listen" config look like? === mrelcee_ is now known as mrelcee [17:14] jhutchins: one sec. Just for additional info, I tried using apache traffic server to see if that worked and I have the same problem, and firewall iptables is empty [17:15] tomreyn: thanks for your suggestion. [17:16] webchat87: Keep track of what you change so you can change it back if it doesn't work. [17:16] dD__: Empty doesn't sound right, shouldn't there be ACCEPT settings? [17:16] jhutchins: definitely i do. [17:17] webchat87: you're welcome [17:26] jhutchins: yes, sorry: https://termbin.com/lmwa, meant that we didn't have any block rules [17:28] !paste [17:28] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://dpaste.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [17:34] Hi, I have ha problem: when I connect my headphone in the front jack of my case, the system doesn't detect it. In operating system windows works correctly. Thank all for your support [17:39] dD__: which ubuntu version are you running, how did you install ubuntu, what is the output of " cat /proc/version "? [17:39] virtualhost: https://dpaste.com/BXY9KHMTG, my ports.conf https://dpaste.com/CX2JYTUFL [17:40] !audio | furetto: i'm not good at debugging audio issues, but you can try these things (some of which are a bit outdated) [17:40] furetto: i'm not good at debugging audio issues, but you can try these things (some of which are a bit outdated): If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - https://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio [17:40] files, see !players and !mp3. [17:42] furetto: the SoundTroubleshooting page should provide information on how to produce an alsa-info report, which would provide a lot more information that would be needed by anyone trying to understand this issue. [17:56] how to see the hdmi version? [18:01] Hi guys [18:02] Im considering using Whonix, but am worried about the small development team, potentially missing bugs. [18:02] COmpared to Ubuntu, where the security team is much larger [18:02] What do you guys think? [18:02] Guest4467: try asking in #linux, we don't recommend other distros or compare them here [18:03] i have this card audio https://pastebin.com/mcz8Ssi4 [18:03] Guest4467: we're only going to suggest you use Ubuntu. I don't think it's reasonable to expect an Ubuntu support channel to suggest you use anything different [18:04] tomreyn, my report of alsa-info is http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=9f414f705044421d163de203e373d494b76c87a6 [18:05] k000: i think you cannot, but you could guess: https://askubuntu.com/a/1207864 [18:06] tomreyn: this tip don't work. =( [18:09] k000: sudo dmidecode --type baseboard | grep -i 'product name' [18:09] then look up on the manufacturer website as to when this was released [18:09] furetto: glad this worked out, you took the first step. [18:09] tomreyn: I use sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name [18:10] or sudo dmidecode -s baseboard-product-name [18:11] leftyfb: those are no valid type keywords on older dmidecode versions, but thanks for pointing it out. [18:11] I have ubuntu. i tried prospect-mail to get mail through a openconnect and an etoken from safenet. both of those items work fine. however, prospect-mail did not seem to know how to use the etoken to login to microsoft.online - is there a way to put in a security module. or better, is there a programme that can act enough like outlook to just work out of the box? [18:12] tomreyn: they're valid on all currently supported releases of ubuntu [18:13] weedmic: I use thunderbird to check email on an online Exchange server [18:15] i see, i don't suppose there is a skin to make it look like outlook - i think it might be noticed, but I may try it. how does thunderbird do with invites and calendar type things? [18:15] leftyfb: $ (lsb_release -ds; dmidecode --version; sudo dmidecode --type system-product-name; sudo dmidecode --type baseboard-product-name) |& nc termbin.com 9999 [18:15] https://termbin.com/894vs [18:16] dmidecode package version is 3.1-1ubuntu0.1 FWIW [18:16] tomreyn, not work :( [18:17] furetto: Does Software & Updates > Additional Drivers offer you any drivers for your intel audio chipset? [18:18] tomreyn: it's a string, -s, not type -t [18:18] leftyfb: oh, whoops [18:18] right, that works, thanks [18:18] I checked it back to 16.04 with dmidecode 3.0 :) [18:31] Is there any open source library systems in Package Manager? [18:32] dragon_: can you provide more context? [18:33] I work in a private library, historical society. We have a rather large collection of books, documents, pictures, ... that need registration. I am just wondering if Ubuntu is cooperating with any of the open source library systems [18:34] So far we have these evergrowing spread sheets, exel [18:35] They work quite well, but there is no proper dewey or anything like that. We have simplefied a bit, and made our own archiving categories [18:35] This is a physical library, old books, new books, .... [18:36] dragon_: Calibre is the only one I know of. [18:36] dragon_: I just searched apt: maybe look at tellico [18:36] I shall take a look at Calibre, and have noticed evergreen too [18:36] dragon_: They are a big, competitive business. You might have some luck checking with systems that support law firms (law libraries). [18:37] I have heard of vufind, but never used it [18:37] (Note that just because they're big commercial systems doesn't mean they're any good. At all. [18:37] dragon_: https://packages.ubuntu.com lets you search which ubuntu release provides a given software. i'm not familiar with open source library (management) systems, but there seem to be several, as seen on a web search for "library management software" [18:38] I am new to the open source libaries too, hoping there are some equivalents to the public systems I am used to [18:38] Note that "library" in the software community does not refer to a collection of books. [18:38] I know, but I don`t know quite what it means either [18:39] dragon_: Usually a collection of routines for use in writing programs. [18:40] I see [18:42] There are international standards for library systems (the paper and book kind, of course digital documents too). I hoped to find something that was flexible and manageable [18:43] Calibre seems to be only e-books? [18:43] i would think so, too [18:44] dragon_: Hardcopy is a little harder, you have to enter all the metadata yourself. [18:44] you could possibly scan isbn's [18:45] tomreyn: I was going to do that with a CueCat, but I discoverd about a third of my most important collection doesn't have them. [18:45] oh, that's a lot [18:46] dragon_: Not sure what kind of organization you have, but it's worth hiring a library science student to help process them. [18:46] I still have the CueCat... somewhere. [18:49] I have typed down thousands of books manually over the last 18months, two years in may lol [18:49] title, year, number of pages, category, author, publisher... [18:50] I doubt it is possible to make it automatic in any practical way [18:51] mark the books with tags and icons, print, tape..... [18:51] dragon_: If I recall the CueCat project, you can get the catalog info from google with the ISBN. There have been scripts that automated that. [18:51] It is an older library that needed totally renovation [18:51] I shall look into it === Guest87 is now known as gbot [18:51] for newer books it might work [18:52] It's the kind of project that really pays to have professional help. [18:52] I don`t doubt it [18:52] However, I am suppose to be one of the professonals lol [18:53] I do not have education as librarian, but as historian I am forced to be flexible [18:54] dragon_: Take a librarian to lunch. (University librarians recommended.) === paulneocube is now known as neocube [19:05] trying 22.10 live cd on my laptop; youtube sound not working. and I don't see anything about sound in the icons/menus in the top right corner. [19:05] anying I might try to get sound working? [19:06] bleb: install ubuntu and do updates [19:07] jhutchins; good idea [19:08] yes, I think it is that htop thing or sound settings [19:09] bleb: Your sound hardware may have a driver the kernel doesn't have [19:09] worst case, anyway [19:13] it is intel alder lake audio === cronburger1 is now known as cronburger [19:17] That should be snd_hda_intel I think [19:17] That's in the kernel [19:25] can I ask the ubuntu installer not to install a bootloader? [19:26] the custom installation dialog has a dropdown menu under "Device for boot loader installation:" [19:26] but it seems I have to pick one [19:27] I would like to let my other linux partition handle the bootloader [19:29] bleb: if this is an uefi booting system, the boot loader will be installed on the first (currently) visible efi system partition no matter what you choose there [19:29] I suppose I can just re-install grub from the other partition after installing ubuntu [19:29] the desktop installer does not provide the ability to complete the installation without installing a boot loader. [19:30] tomreyn: if I select my main disk and hit "install now" I get an error message saying "No EFI System Partition was found." [19:31] so I guess it wants me to manually indicate the efi system partition (this is in the custom partitioning dialog) [19:32] I have a 4gb fat32 partition that I am using for esp but it looks like the installer didn't pick it up automatically [19:32] this message probably means that no existing ESP could be found and that you will need to create one in manual partitioning (or have ubuntu create one automatically by not entering manual partitioning) [19:33] bleb: select the partition and for type choose efi [19:34] I think I can just select the existing one and select "Use as: EFI System Partition" [19:34] does your existing partition have the esp flag? [19:34] wonder if it should have seen it automatically [19:35] tomreyn: can I check for that in fdisk or something? [19:36] sudo parted /dev/sda print [19:38] ok yeah it doesn't have the esp flag [19:39] I will change the type to EFI System and see if the installer picks it up [19:42] yup that made the difference [19:43] I guess I will just install then later re-install grub from the partition I want === Bencraft4 is now known as Bencraft [19:55] okay so after updates the sound settings don't show any output device [19:56] I guess my sound card is too new [20:03] now that ubuntu overwrote grub, I can still see alpine linux [20:03] but if I select it it says "error: kernel doesn't support EFI handover. error: you need to load the kernel first." [20:04] so now I have to figure out how to undo that === pr3sonic is now known as highrate === shokohsc69 is now known as shokohsc6 [20:50] Urgh. I just tried to update ubuntu 20.04 to 22.04 and it paniced and now it won't boot. I don't even see a grub menu. /dev/root cannot open blockdev is the first error I get. I'm about to create a bootable usb but anyone have any advice before I get stuck into trying to recover? [20:51] I've not faced that myself but my guesses are names in /etc/fstab that might have changed between 20.04 and 22.04 [20:55] I hope not, but at least that'd be an easy fix. [20:56] what's the biggest IRC server? [20:57]