[00:50] <valorie> thanks so much, RikMills
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:53] <arraybolt3> I don't know how helpful this is, but I've been getting rather frequent KWin crashes with the kubuntu-backports repo enabled - usually my window "bars" vanish for a moment and then come back, but sometimes they just vanish and I have to manually restart kwin somehow in order to get things to work again. plasmashell crashes every so often too, which can require a "killall plasmashell"
[14:54] <arraybolt3> followed by a manual plasmashell run.
[14:55] <arraybolt3> From looking at logs, it looks like the X server connection dies for no particular reason (the error is "The X11 connection broke: I/O error (code 1)     XIO:  fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server ":0").
[14:57] <arraybolt3> This is on Kubuntu 22.04 with backports enabled.
 so far so good on lunar (re @IrcsomeBot: <RikMills> https://kde.org/announcements/plasma/5/5.27.2/)
[16:18] <mmikowski> arraybolt3: O
[16:19] <mmikowski> How "often" is "rather frequent'
[16:20] <mmikowski> I've seen plasma restart perhaps once a day, but not something that requires a "killall plasmashell"
[16:21] <mmikowski> You may run something different though that might make the system more susceptible, like more containers or VMs that result in more frequent memory pressure (although I do run VBox very frequently, I rarely have more than 1 VM running concurrently). 
[16:30] <arraybolt3> mmikowski: rather frequent = about once every three hours of constant use.
[16:30] <arraybolt3> No VMs running, RAM usage should be rather low.
[16:31] <arraybolt3> Like if I leave the machine idle, it seems to be fine, but if I'm using it for a while and switching between lots of apps, it happens. Didn't used to happen, so I assume something changed.
[16:32] <arraybolt3> Hopefully the 5.27 update will fix it.
[16:32] <arraybolt3> Or maybe just cold booting the machine will have done it.
[16:34] <arraybolt3> Yeah it might just have been a KDE update that made it glitchy come to think of it. One time Discover crashed and it specifically said that something changed like an update that may have caused the crash. So that's probably all it is.
[16:37] <mmikowski> Yeah, hopefully 5.27. Even if it doesn't fix it now, the fact that it is the last 5-series release means it will get significant love moving forward, so one can develop for it with confidence.
[16:38] <mmikowski> So better, more complete bug fixes seems likely.
[16:43] <mmikowski> arraybolt3: fwiw, 5.27 does seem mostly more stable. We
[16:44] <mmikowski> we've seen only one new bug so far which occurs with multi-monitor display switching, but that was with 5.27.0. Testing 5.27.2 today.
[16:44] <mmikowski> And even that doesn't crash plasma; it's just a bit annoying. So I'll let you know :)
[16:46] <arraybolt3> Thanks!
[20:00] <ahoneybun[m]> mmikowski: can you share the experimental PPA for jammy with Plasma 5.27?
[20:37] <mmikowski> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental
[20:37] <mmikowski> ahoneybun[m] ^^ There you go!
[20:52] <ahoneybun[m]> Sweet
[20:52] <ahoneybun[m]> Is this 5.27, .1 or .2?
[23:19] <ahoneybun[m]> There are some good changes in the 22.04.2 version of the Kubuntu Manual.
[23:52] <RikMills> ahoneybun[m]: .2