[01:52] <arraybolt3> I'm experiencing unusually frequent plasmashell and kwin_x11 crashes on Kubuntu 22.04. I have quite a few apps open (QEMU, KAte, Element, Thunderbird, Chrome, Dolphin, Discover, and a few Konsole windows). Sometimes they aren't automatically reloading after crash and I have to killall and restart them manually. Any recent changes that might have caused this? Using Plasma 5.24.
[01:52] <arraybolt3> Checking journalctl for anything interesting now.
[01:54] <arraybolt3> I'm not seeing anything interesting, though that may be because plasmashell isn't logging to the right place now that I have it started manually.
[01:54] <arraybolt3> K, I have them both running in a terminal, I'll report back with the error next time I get a crash.
 I'm seeing this as well.  AMD GPU.... (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> I'm experiencing unusually frequent plasmashell and kwin_x11 crashes on Kubuntu 22.04. I have quite a few apps open (QEMU, KAte, Element, Thunderbird, Chrome, Dolphin, Discover, and a few Konsole windows). Sometimes they aren't automatically reloading after crash and I have to killall and restart them manually. Any recent changes that might have caused this? Using Plasma 5.2
[01:55] <arraybolt3> Mine are with Intel graphics.
 Its been really frustrating, so I decided to enable Backports and upgraded to 5.25
 And I'm getting some what similar issues...
 I'm contemplating Tuxedo OS because they've just moved over to Plasma 5.27... and based on 22.04.  However... I'm wondering if its something to do with 22.04 itself?  Its super frustrating because I upgraded from 20.04 about a month ago, and that was pretty much perfect... Kind of regretting it.
[01:57] <arraybolt3> I just remembered that I have Vulkan enabled in Chrome, maybe that's the problem?
 you think thats the issue?  I switched over to the Brave Browser from Firefox, because Firefox has been dragging down my performance and Brave runs much faster and lighter
 How do I check if Vulkan is enabled... and what does disabling it do?
 I gotta big decision to make.... I'm on the same Kubuntu install since 16.04, and contemplating switching distros off the Ubuntu base completely, and moving over to Spiral Linux KDE.
 Spiral Linux is running Plasma 5.20 and is on Debian Stable, so I won't be leaving the Deb and Apt world...
 but the crashes are majorly disrupting my workflow....
[02:01] <arraybolt3> Vulkan is some graphics accelerateion thing.
[02:01] <arraybolt3> You might be able to find it under chrome:flags if Brave has that menu.
[02:01]  * arraybolt3 disables and sees if stability improves
 Thanks!  I'll give it a shot
[02:02] <arraybolt3> I hope this is all it is. Vulkan is experimental in Chrome, so I wouldn't be too surprized if this was the cause.
[02:03] <arraybolt3> Could also be because I'm using Vulkan in Chrome and a non-Vulkan Electron app at the ssame time (Electron uses Chromium).
[02:03] <arraybolt3> Anyway, I'll experimenta around.
 Let me know what you experience.  I'll do the same
[02:04] <arraybolt3> *experiment
[05:22] <arraybolt3> @zparihar: Hmm, things were going well for a while and I just had kwin crash again. https://termbin.com/bu0s is the (I think) relevant output of my logs.
 Checking
[05:23] <arraybolt3> Looks like somehow the X server connection is dying?
 which log file is that btw?
[05:23] <arraybolt3> It's the stdout from kwin_x11 I believe.
[05:24] <arraybolt3> I didn't get it out of a logfile, I had to restart kwin in the terminal to get my session working and so I just left itin a terminal and caught the logs from that.
 aahh
 Got to bring this to the Kubuntu Devs attention
[05:25] <arraybolt3> I'll file a bug report.
 👍 (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3> I'll file a bug report.)
[07:23] <skramer> Is it just me, or is 22.04 so buggy?
[07:24] <skramer> Does not remember settings after restart, does not remember where to place windows after standby, ...
[07:31] <skramer> It even does not remember the size of a window...
 22.04 is buggy for me
[08:17] <skramer> zparihar: +1
[13:29] <kilian> hi
 Forwarded from unknown: KDE Plasma 6.0 to feature Qt 6!
 https://news.itsfoss.com/kde-plasma-qt6/
[13:55] <OnkelTem> Hi all.
[13:55] <OnkelTem> On my Kubuntu 22.04.2 LTS X session stared to hang 5+ times per day when I'm switching desktops.
[13:56] <OnkelTem> Did you encounter such a weird behavior?
[13:57] <diogenes_Vx15> OnkelTem: what do you mean by switching desktops?
[13:58] <OnkelTem> diogenes_Vx15: moving from one to another. Virtual desktops
[13:58] <diogenes_Vx15> OnkelTem: you mean workspaces?
[13:59] <OnkelTem> diogenes_Vx15: they're called Virtual Desktops, I'm not sure what workspace is
[14:00] <OnkelTem> I mean, I'd think about workspace as of the whole environment, dunno
[14:01] <OnkelTem> https://i.imgur.com/TZ2Fbry.png
[14:01] <diogenes_Vx15> OnkelTem: check out your memory usage by running: free -m
[14:01] <diogenes_Vx15> especially pay attention to swap usage.
[14:02] <OnkelTem> swap is not used mostly, and I'm barely running of RAM
[14:03] <OnkelTem> the next time it hangs, I'll check it out anyway
[14:03] <OnkelTem> but I still doubt that's the reason. Any other ideas?
[14:04] <diogenes_Vx15> we can have a look at your specs if you want: inxi -Fxxc0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:04] <diogenes_Vx15> share the url.
[14:05] <OnkelTem> diogenes_Vx15: sure
[14:05] <OnkelTem> https://termbin.com/k36x
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:18] <diogenes_Vx15> OnkelTem: my theory is that it might be related to the compositing backend, as far as i recll (haven't used plasma in awhile) there used to be 3 options to pick a compositing backend, openg 2 versions and xrender, the last one offered the smoothest performance but as i read some articles, it has been removed in 5.23 so there's no way to try it out and see if that fixes your issue. But maybe there are still other composining op
[14:18] <diogenes_Vx15> tions like disabling the composition alltogether and test it out.
[14:23] <OnkelTem> diogenes_Vx15: thank you very much, I'll start with disabling it maybe. However, I'm not sure where it's done. Maybe switching off desktop effect would be enough?
[14:24] <diogenes_Vx15> OnkelTem: try that too.
[14:24] <OnkelTem> Disabled switching animation for starters
[14:26] <diogenes_Vx15> OnkelTem: here is an interesting article if you are interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/or5e08/kwin_dropped_xrender_backend_bad_news_for_nvidia/
[14:31] <OnkelTem> diogenes_Vx15: thanks. It seems some people've had fps issues since then. Mine 120Hz seem to be pretty stable.
[14:32] <OnkelTem> 5.24.x plasma here. Damn, how old it is :) The thread is 2y old now, and is talking about 5.32
[14:32] <OnkelTem> 5.23*
[14:59] <user|37> how do I obtain sound?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> first open alsamixer in the terminal, then make sure automute is disabled
[15:01] <user|37> I do not know the commands - help?
[15:07] <user|37> how to open alsamixer in terminal?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> type alsamixer
[15:16] <user|37> I found no evidence of mute or unmute
[15:17] <BluesKaj> most likely it's on far right
[15:18] <BluesKaj> it's called automute
[15:22] <user|37> I do not see it anywhere - how far to the right? As far as I can see I'm going as far to the right as I can.
[15:26] <BluesKaj> using the arrow keys?
[15:31] <user|37> I found it - how do I disable it?
[15:33] <user|37> I disabled it - still no sound....
[15:37] <BluesKaj> ok, use the escape key then type or copy and paste this command into the terminal, sudo lshw -C sound
[15:38] <user|37> OK....now what?
[15:39] <user|37> blueskaj - I did it - now what do I look for?
[15:39] <BluesKaj> look at the configuration output to find the sound card driver
[15:40] <user|37>  driver=snd_hda_intel latency=32
[15:40] <user|37> is what I see.....
[15:41] <user|37> bluekaj -  driver=snd_hda_intel latency=32
[15:42] <user|37> blueskaj -  driver=snd_hda_intel latency=32
[15:42] <user|37> sorry speeled wrong...
[15:42] <user|37> spelled
[15:44] <BluesKaj> ok, enter this command into the terminal and then reboot, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[15:45] <BluesKaj> if there's no output then the driver is loaded
[15:46] <BluesKaj> it's a bug with some audio drivers that hasn't been addressed for yrs
[16:00] <user|37> blueskaj - I'm going to reboot now......
[16:00] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:02] <user|37> blueskaj - still no sound...
[16:04] <BluesKaj> check your sound volume speaker icon in the panel
[16:04] <BluesKaj> make sure it's at 80% or so
[16:05] <user|37> blueskaj - done
[16:10] <BluesKaj> now open pulseaudio volume ctrl in Kmenu/multimedia, then check output devices... if you don't have installed, open the terminal and do sudo apt install pavucontrol
[16:17] <user|37> blueskaj - I do but it reads : HDMI / Display Port 5(unplugged)
[16:19] <BluesKaj> click on that for other options
[16:23] <user|37> blueskaj - nothing reads other options - I just see advanced options...
[16:24] <BluesKaj> or choose the configuration tab and find the output port that you're using on the soundcard
[16:25] <BluesKaj> what kind of audio setup are you using?
[16:26] <user|37> blueskaj - I just have a BOSE speaker hooked up to the back of my PC on the audio port.
[16:28] <user|37> blueskaj - I figured it out - thank you soooooo much for being patient with me!!
[16:29] <BluesKaj> you're welcome .. happy  listening! :-)
[16:29] <user|37> YES!!!!
[16:31] <BluesKaj> :-)
[19:48] <weedmic> my safenet etoken with openconnect works fine for all my files in firefox, except - when I got to https://nloutlook.nl.jonkheer.com/owa/#path=/mail - it asks me to login, instead of just opening up (like it does in windows with the same key).  Any ideas on what to do would be helpful.
[20:05] <weedmic>  re:  my question, i think the problem was that ubuntu used snap version of  prospect mail, and i could  find no way to load the full version.
[20:57] <valorie> "full version"?
[20:57] <valorie> snap is just a way to package and contain software