lubot[telegram] <lynorian> I don't have a kubuntu install or vm installed but does anyone have the new home screen loading on discover on lunar02:33
lubot[telegram] <teward001> i can try in a bit, i'm downloading Lubuntu Lunar as part of my testbed for some tools I need to test for backports team anyways in Lunar (and i'm a lazy ass so i want to use a GUI XD)02:33
lubot[telegram] <lynorian> eh I may try kubuntu with this to see if it is working there when making a bug report as that seems useful info but don't actually have an install02:34
lubot[telegram] <teward001> looks to me like it just sits on "Loading" for the Home tab of Discover (re @lynorian: I don't have a kubuntu install or vm installed but does anyone have the new home screen loading on discover on lunar)02:44
lubot[telegram] <lynorian> same in both my bare metal machine and my vm02:50
lubot[telegram] <teward001> ye mine's in KVM so :P02:54
lubot[telegram] <lynorian> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/2008968 filed a bug about it03:09
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2008968 in plasma-discover (Ubuntu) "discover home never loads" [Undecided, New]03:09
arraybolt3I just noticed that Lubuntu's upgrader no longer has byte counts during downloads of packages in Lunar. Is this a regression ,or was the byte count feature removed?03:35
arraybolt3(Personally I don't care much about it being gone, but if it's a regression we should probably fix that.)03:35
guiverc@lynorian, I think I saw a kubuntu user report that recently (this morning? last night? my local time anyway) but sorry I didn't pay much attention as was busy on other things  (re: plasma discover... but it's failing to load for me here too it appears)05:42
lubot[telegram] <RikMills> cant you try reinstalling the previous version? (re @lynorian: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/2008968 filed a bug about it)05:50
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2008968 in plasma-discover (Ubuntu) "discover home never loads" [Undecided, Confirmed]05:50
lubot[telegram] <RikMills> i.e. the 5.27.1 debs from: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/5.27.1-0ubuntu1/+build/2562127505:51
guiverc@RikMills, if I `sudo apt install ./plasma-discover_5.27.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb ./plasma-discover-common_5.27.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb` then i get normal actions from plasma-discover06:11
* guiverc those were `wget` from the link you provided...06:12
lubot[telegram] <RikMills> Git bisect time perhaps then06:28
lubot[telegram] <RikMills> 1st bad commit is: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/discover/-/commit/5dadd14ff12b8a6afae2c557d5948c5c66e1898c14:11
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Commit 5dadd14 in plasma/discover "pk: Fix searching by state"14:11
arraybolt3https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm-qt/+bug/1998528 I think this is probably the most critical bug we have to fix before 23.04's release.17:03
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1998528 in pcmanfm-qt (Ubuntu) "Garbled text in the Slide Show tab of the Desktop Preferences window" [Undecided, Confirmed]17:03
arraybolt3I'm currently trying to isolate it to see if it's a Lubuntu-specific problem or an LXQt bug.17:03
LeoK[m]<ubottu> "Launchpad bug 1998528 in pcmanfm..." <- What about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1795278 --??17:20
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1998528 in pcmanfm-qt (Ubuntu) "Garbled text in the Slide Show tab of the Desktop Preferences window" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199852817:20
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1795278 in software-properties (Ubuntu Kinetic) "software-properties-{qt,kde} attempts to use KUrl but it doesn't exist" [Undecided, Triaged]17:20
arraybolt3LeoK[m]: That one also needs fixing, I'll try and look into it. Personally, it's been there a while and so I don't think it's as important, whereas the one I'm on now is a regression. But we still should fix long-lingering bugs.17:21
arraybolt3I guess the other one is probably also a regression.17:21
arraybolt3OK so the slide show tab bug is local to Lubuntu. Happens in both a Lubuntu and LXQt Desktop session, but it doesn't happen in Debian.17:31
arraybolt3*Debian Sid to be more specific17:31
arraybolt3Hmm... this might be a theme problem...17:32
arraybolt3Huh, nope, doesn't happen even with the Breeze theme.17:33
arraybolt3Alright, mystery to be solved.17:33
arraybolt3I found it, pretty sure. The Lubuntu Manual addition is confusing it.17:48
arraybolt3Which makes sense of why there's a weird icon and whatnot. Probably something just isn't quite working right with the UI.17:51
tewardarraybolt3: i have something i'd like you to test as well18:57
tewardnevermind it's been tested already missed Rik's input on the testing :P18:58
tewardarraybolt3: send coffee pls18:58
* arraybolt3 sends concrete truck full of espresso to teward's current location18:58
RikMillsoddly debian kde devs say this discover bug is not affecting 5.27.2 in unstable19:24
RikMillsone dev anyway19:24
lubot[telegram] <teward001> do we need me to install KDE Debian unstable and test something?19:27
RikMillsmight be helpful19:28
lubot[telegram] <teward001> give me a bit to download the testing iso, set up, then point @ Unstable19:29
lubot[telegram] <teward001> and send me the link to any relevant Debian bug or tracked bug so I can put results there19:29
RikMillsthere is no debian bug as yet as they said they could not reproduce19:43
RikMillsours is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/200896819:44
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2008968 in plasma-discover (Ubuntu) "discover home never loads" [Undecided, Confirmed]19:44
tewardRikMills: ack, i think i have that.  i'll let you know what I find in Debian19:52
tewardcurrently deploying Debian Stable to system first, netinst is slower than i'd like but meh19:59
tewardRikMills: KDE Plasma I assume is the Debian option20:06
tewardswitching from stable to unstable and pulling in all the packages (tons!)20:43
arraybolt3teward: I just install the base system, point it to unstable, upgrade, then install the DE, in case that's helpful.20:53
tewardnope already way past that ;)21:01
EickmeyerJust a little feedback: Just tried a Studio install using yesterday's daily, no issues.21:17
EickmeyerI'll have to adjust a few colors due to a theming update on our end, but nbd.21:17
tewardRikMills: stable -> unstable upgrade in progress, lots of crap to install (only 35% complete on upgrades, I got a late start 'cause i had to go to the podiatrist for a routine appt.)22:08
tewardVM reboot in progress22:12
tewardRikMills: confirmed that the issue does **NOT** appear in Debian KDE22:13
tewardI'd test LXQt but I think it's identical so.22:14
teward*checks something in Debian*22:20
tewardno i was wondering whether they had an extra patch to fix something in -1 but no they didn't22:21
tewardso yeah it sounds like it's specific to here,.22:21
RikMillsthe kde commit I bisected is packagekit related, but we have the same version of that is unstable :/22:22
RikMillsas unstable22:22
RikMillsif I revert the commit on top of 5.27.2, it works22:23
tewardare you sure we're 100% identical packagekit version?22:24
tewardand no special configs, etc. in Lubuntu/Kubuntu that differ from Debian?22:24
RikMillsyep. checked that eariler. direct sync22:24
tewardjust trying to figure potential problem causers22:24
RikMillswe recommend the snap backend, that is about all22:25
arraybolt3teward: try installing Snap and the backend on Debian and see what happens?22:25
RikMills  * Merge from Debian unstable. Remaining changes:22:26
RikMills    - Kubuntu Vcs and maintainer fields.22:26
RikMills    - Depend on xdg-desktop-portal-kde, and snapd for snap backend.22:26
RikMills    - Recommend the snap backend and software-properties-qt22:26
tewarddo you have runtime stderr output for plasma-discover or do you need that?22:29
teward'cause i found some "Unknown transaction property" errors22:29
teward(I'm rebuilding Debian 'cause i just reused the VM disk for Lubuntu)22:30
tewardRikMills: arraybolt3: ^^22:32
* arraybolt3 looks22:32
RikMillsthose "Unknown transaction property" errors seem to occur just the same in the not broken 5.27.122:32
tewardanything else in there that does *not* show in 5.27.1?22:32
tewardi see a "could not find backend" error22:32
arraybolt3Yeah I have no idea what I'm looking at :P I'm fighting with a UI bug in PCManFM-Qt right now.22:32
teward*sends arraybolt3 down into PCManFM Hell*22:34
arraybolt3Anyway, if the only real difference is Snap, I'd bring Snap into the picture. One time I had an XScreenSaver bug (which I'm still fighting with!) where the Preview button breaks if an entirely unrelated config file field isn't filled in.22:34
tewardi'll need to know which snap(s) to install to make that work in Debian then22:34
tewardinstalling snapd is easy 22:34
tewardbut making sure that i have what we need is, well, important :p22:34
tewardonce i reinstall Debian i mean22:35
teward*now has the Lubuntu and Debian VMs side by side*22:35
RikMillsI don't see anything obviously different22:37
tewardRikMills: do you know which components I need to install / remove to make it try the snap backend?22:38
tewardother than snapd of course22:38
tewardshould I also remove plasma-discover-backend-* as well?22:40
RikMillsif they are not default in debian I guess so22:41
RikMillsI may have to head to KDE land and pester the discover dev ;)22:41
RikMillsgot to go for a bit.....22:45
tewardlol guess who did a derp during the debian setup xD22:54
* teward forgot to tell it to install GRUB22:54
tewardthank you Debian netinst for a rescue mode for GRUB reinstall22:54
arraybolt3Heh, now's a great time to install SYSLINUX instead.22:54
arraybolt3Har HAR! I think I finally see it!23:14
arraybolt3Been chasing down why the Lubuntu Manual checkbox isn't behaving itself for like way too long, and I think I finally see it.23:14
arraybolt3Anyway, expect a PCManFM-Qt update in Lunar before the day is over.23:14
arraybolt3Also remind me to make backups of my source directory when I don't have Git to bail me out.23:15
* arraybolt3 thwaps tsimonq2 for making me have to reverse-engineer the LXQt desktop :P23:18
arraybolt3Yay, total success.23:29
arraybolt3Time to package.23:30

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