lubot | [telegram] <lynorian> I don't have a kubuntu install or vm installed but does anyone have the new home screen loading on discover on lunar | 02:33 |
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lubot | [telegram] <teward001> i can try in a bit, i'm downloading Lubuntu Lunar as part of my testbed for some tools I need to test for backports team anyways in Lunar (and i'm a lazy ass so i want to use a GUI XD) | 02:33 |
lubot | [telegram] <lynorian> eh I may try kubuntu with this to see if it is working there when making a bug report as that seems useful info but don't actually have an install | 02:34 |
lubot | [telegram] <teward001> looks to me like it just sits on "Loading" for the Home tab of Discover (re @lynorian: I don't have a kubuntu install or vm installed but does anyone have the new home screen loading on discover on lunar) | 02:44 |
lubot | [telegram] <lynorian> same in both my bare metal machine and my vm | 02:50 |
lubot | [telegram] <teward001> ye mine's in KVM so :P | 02:54 |
lubot | [telegram] <lynorian> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/2008968 filed a bug about it | 03:09 |
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2008968 in plasma-discover (Ubuntu) "discover home never loads" [Undecided, New] | 03:09 | |
arraybolt3 | I just noticed that Lubuntu's upgrader no longer has byte counts during downloads of packages in Lunar. Is this a regression ,or was the byte count feature removed? | 03:35 |
arraybolt3 | (Personally I don't care much about it being gone, but if it's a regression we should probably fix that.) | 03:35 |
guiverc | @lynorian, I think I saw a kubuntu user report that recently (this morning? last night? my local time anyway) but sorry I didn't pay much attention as was busy on other things (re: plasma discover... but it's failing to load for me here too it appears) | 05:42 |
lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> cant you try reinstalling the previous version? (re @lynorian: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/2008968 filed a bug about it) | 05:50 |
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2008968 in plasma-discover (Ubuntu) "discover home never loads" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 05:50 | |
lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> i.e. the 5.27.1 debs from: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/5.27.1-0ubuntu1/+build/25621275 | 05:51 |
guiverc | @RikMills, if I `sudo apt install ./plasma-discover_5.27.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb ./plasma-discover-common_5.27.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb` then i get normal actions from plasma-discover | 06:11 |
* guiverc those were `wget` from the link you provided... | 06:12 | |
lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> Git bisect time perhaps then | 06:28 |
lubot | [telegram] <RikMills> 1st bad commit is: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/discover/-/commit/5dadd14ff12b8a6afae2c557d5948c5c66e1898c | 14:11 |
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Commit 5dadd14 in plasma/discover "pk: Fix searching by state" | 14:11 | |
arraybolt3 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm-qt/+bug/1998528 I think this is probably the most critical bug we have to fix before 23.04's release. | 17:03 |
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1998528 in pcmanfm-qt (Ubuntu) "Garbled text in the Slide Show tab of the Desktop Preferences window" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 17:03 | |
arraybolt3 | I'm currently trying to isolate it to see if it's a Lubuntu-specific problem or an LXQt bug. | 17:03 |
LeoK[m] | <ubottu> "Launchpad bug 1998528 in pcmanfm..." <- What about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1795278 --?? | 17:20 |
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1998528 in pcmanfm-qt (Ubuntu) "Garbled text in the Slide Show tab of the Desktop Preferences window" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1998528 | 17:20 | |
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 1795278 in software-properties (Ubuntu Kinetic) "software-properties-{qt,kde} attempts to use KUrl but it doesn't exist" [Undecided, Triaged] | 17:20 | |
arraybolt3 | LeoK[m]: That one also needs fixing, I'll try and look into it. Personally, it's been there a while and so I don't think it's as important, whereas the one I'm on now is a regression. But we still should fix long-lingering bugs. | 17:21 |
arraybolt3 | I guess the other one is probably also a regression. | 17:21 |
arraybolt3 | OK so the slide show tab bug is local to Lubuntu. Happens in both a Lubuntu and LXQt Desktop session, but it doesn't happen in Debian. | 17:31 |
arraybolt3 | *Debian Sid to be more specific | 17:31 |
arraybolt3 | Hmm... this might be a theme problem... | 17:32 |
arraybolt3 | Huh, nope, doesn't happen even with the Breeze theme. | 17:33 |
arraybolt3 | Alright, mystery to be solved. | 17:33 |
arraybolt3 | I found it, pretty sure. The Lubuntu Manual addition is confusing it. | 17:48 |
arraybolt3 | Which makes sense of why there's a weird icon and whatnot. Probably something just isn't quite working right with the UI. | 17:51 |
teward | arraybolt3: i have something i'd like you to test as well | 18:57 |
arraybolt3 | Yes? | 18:58 |
teward | nevermind it's been tested already missed Rik's input on the testing :P | 18:58 |
teward | arraybolt3: send coffee pls | 18:58 |
* arraybolt3 sends concrete truck full of espresso to teward's current location | 18:58 | |
RikMills | oddly debian kde devs say this discover bug is not affecting 5.27.2 in unstable | 19:24 |
RikMills | one dev anyway | 19:24 |
lubot | [telegram] <teward001> do we need me to install KDE Debian unstable and test something? | 19:27 |
RikMills | might be helpful | 19:28 |
lubot | [telegram] <teward001> give me a bit to download the testing iso, set up, then point @ Unstable | 19:29 |
lubot | [telegram] <teward001> and send me the link to any relevant Debian bug or tracked bug so I can put results there | 19:29 |
RikMills | there is no debian bug as yet as they said they could not reproduce | 19:43 |
RikMills | ours is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/2008968 | 19:44 |
-ubottu:#lubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2008968 in plasma-discover (Ubuntu) "discover home never loads" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 19:44 | |
teward | RikMills: ack, i think i have that. i'll let you know what I find in Debian | 19:52 |
teward | currently deploying Debian Stable to system first, netinst is slower than i'd like but meh | 19:59 |
teward | RikMills: KDE Plasma I assume is the Debian option | 20:06 |
teward | switching from stable to unstable and pulling in all the packages (tons!) | 20:43 |
arraybolt3 | teward: I just install the base system, point it to unstable, upgrade, then install the DE, in case that's helpful. | 20:53 |
teward | nope already way past that ;) | 21:01 |
Eickmeyer | Just a little feedback: Just tried a Studio install using yesterday's daily, no issues. | 21:17 |
Eickmeyer | I'll have to adjust a few colors due to a theming update on our end, but nbd. | 21:17 |
teward | RikMills: stable -> unstable upgrade in progress, lots of crap to install (only 35% complete on upgrades, I got a late start 'cause i had to go to the podiatrist for a routine appt.) | 22:08 |
teward | VM reboot in progress | 22:12 |
teward | RikMills: confirmed that the issue does **NOT** appear in Debian KDE | 22:13 |
teward | I'd test LXQt but I think it's identical so. | 22:14 |
RikMills | puzzling | 22:20 |
teward | *checks something in Debian* | 22:20 |
teward | no i was wondering whether they had an extra patch to fix something in -1 but no they didn't | 22:21 |
teward | so yeah it sounds like it's specific to here,. | 22:21 |
RikMills | the kde commit I bisected is packagekit related, but we have the same version of that is unstable :/ | 22:22 |
RikMills | as unstable | 22:22 |
RikMills | if I revert the commit on top of 5.27.2, it works | 22:23 |
teward | are you sure we're 100% identical packagekit version? | 22:24 |
teward | and no special configs, etc. in Lubuntu/Kubuntu that differ from Debian? | 22:24 |
RikMills | yep. checked that eariler. direct sync | 22:24 |
teward | just trying to figure potential problem causers | 22:24 |
RikMills | we recommend the snap backend, that is about all | 22:25 |
arraybolt3 | teward: try installing Snap and the backend on Debian and see what happens? | 22:25 |
RikMills | * Merge from Debian unstable. Remaining changes: | 22:26 |
RikMills | - Kubuntu Vcs and maintainer fields. | 22:26 |
RikMills | - Depend on xdg-desktop-portal-kde, and snapd for snap backend. | 22:26 |
RikMills | - Recommend the snap backend and software-properties-qt | 22:26 |
teward | do you have runtime stderr output for plasma-discover or do you need that? | 22:29 |
teward | 'cause i found some "Unknown transaction property" errors | 22:29 |
teward | (Lubuntu) | 22:30 |
teward | (I'm rebuilding Debian 'cause i just reused the VM disk for Lubuntu) | 22:30 |
teward | https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/bgsNqmvm7y/ | 22:30 |
teward | RikMills: arraybolt3: ^^ | 22:32 |
* arraybolt3 looks | 22:32 | |
RikMills | those "Unknown transaction property" errors seem to occur just the same in the not broken 5.27.1 | 22:32 |
teward | anything else in there that does *not* show in 5.27.1? | 22:32 |
teward | i see a "could not find backend" error | 22:32 |
arraybolt3 | Yeah I have no idea what I'm looking at :P I'm fighting with a UI bug in PCManFM-Qt right now. | 22:32 |
teward | *sends arraybolt3 down into PCManFM Hell* | 22:34 |
arraybolt3 | Anyway, if the only real difference is Snap, I'd bring Snap into the picture. One time I had an XScreenSaver bug (which I'm still fighting with!) where the Preview button breaks if an entirely unrelated config file field isn't filled in. | 22:34 |
teward | i'll need to know which snap(s) to install to make that work in Debian then | 22:34 |
teward | installing snapd is easy | 22:34 |
teward | but making sure that i have what we need is, well, important :p | 22:34 |
teward | once i reinstall Debian i mean | 22:35 |
teward | *now has the Lubuntu and Debian VMs side by side* | 22:35 |
RikMills | I don't see anything obviously different | 22:37 |
teward | RikMills: do you know which components I need to install / remove to make it try the snap backend? | 22:38 |
teward | other than snapd of course | 22:38 |
RikMills | plasma-discover-backend-snap | 22:39 |
teward | should I also remove plasma-discover-backend-* as well? | 22:40 |
RikMills | if they are not default in debian I guess so | 22:41 |
RikMills | I may have to head to KDE land and pester the discover dev ;) | 22:41 |
teward | lol | 22:41 |
RikMills | got to go for a bit..... | 22:45 |
teward | lol guess who did a derp during the debian setup xD | 22:54 |
* teward forgot to tell it to install GRUB | 22:54 | |
teward | thank you Debian netinst for a rescue mode for GRUB reinstall | 22:54 |
arraybolt3 | Heh, now's a great time to install SYSLINUX instead. | 22:54 |
arraybolt3 | Har HAR! I think I finally see it! | 23:14 |
arraybolt3 | Been chasing down why the Lubuntu Manual checkbox isn't behaving itself for like way too long, and I think I finally see it. | 23:14 |
arraybolt3 | Anyway, expect a PCManFM-Qt update in Lunar before the day is over. | 23:14 |
arraybolt3 | Also remind me to make backups of my source directory when I don't have Git to bail me out. | 23:15 |
* arraybolt3 thwaps tsimonq2 for making me have to reverse-engineer the LXQt desktop :P | 23:18 | |
arraybolt3 | Yay, total success. | 23:29 |
arraybolt3 | Time to package. | 23:30 |
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