[00:50] ddstreet mapreri: thanks for the pings re discussing the backports charter - apologies, I was asleep (that was 2am my local time) - will follow-up on the mailing list [02:36] *pokes amurray just to be annoying* :P [02:36] * arraybolt3 throws an entire bucket of razor-sharp straws at teward [02:37] oh good i'm now bleeding pure chaos liquid. enjoy cleaning that up. *says this as the chaos coalesces and creates a massive black hole that just sucks everything in around himself, including arraybolt3* [02:37] AAAAAaaaaaaaa...... [02:38] * arraybolt3 goes back to writing an answer on AskUbuntu [02:46] hey teward - apologies if you felt left out ☺️ [02:47] amurray: lol, nah, just being annoying :) [02:47] it's easy to forget I'm on the backports team ;) [02:47] I just wear *so* many hats... xD [02:47] indeed - I don't know where you find the time to be honest [02:48] indeed. a lot of times there's a lot of stuff that doesn't need any special action so I mean :P [02:48] *so* much coffee [02:48] ^^ that [02:48] and sometimes liquor straight from the bottle [02:48] yes yes, software developer [02:48] but usually coffee [02:49] sarnold: oh you're going to love the evil that's coming your way [02:50] nooooooooo [02:51] Rumor has it teward drinks a quantity of coffee sufficient to power New York City. [02:52] *gives sarnold the briefing of the evil coming to Security review next cycle* [02:54] sarnold is already screaming, I can hear it from here xD [02:54] arraybolt3: the entire state of Pennsylvania actually [02:54] * sarnold nods === dbungert1 is now known as dbungert === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer [15:59] o/ [16:00] \o [16:00] o/ [16:00] #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team [16:00] Meeting started at 16:00:47 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:00] \o [16:00] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [16:00] o/ [16:01] o/ [16:01] The weekly status is here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-02-march-2023/34287 [16:01] o/ [16:01] o/ [16:01] I forgot I had a meeting the past 30 minutes so mine isn't yet :( [16:02] * bdmurray just posted his [16:02] Hello o/ [16:02] o/ [16:03] * juliank has posted [16:04] hmm jawn-smith not here to ask about libarchive "very stuck" [16:04] vorlon: I picked it up [16:05] should be unstuck once reprepro is published (and triggered correctly) [16:06] ok [16:08] audio troubles, brb [16:09] do we have any proposed migrations to hand out this week? [16:09] later later [16:10] but I take it we're all done reading now [16:10] #topic Release incoming bugs [16:10] #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs [16:10] bug 2008279 [16:10] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2008279 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "glib2.0 2.75.3-3 breaks text input for Firefox & Chromium snaps" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2008279 [16:10] seems to be with desktop? [16:11] I left a comment asking [16:11] bug 2008789 [16:12] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2008789 in inetutils (Ubuntu) "[MIR] inetutils" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2008789 [16:12] there's a jira issue for this [16:13] I'm gonna remove the tag because it has an issue to track it internally [16:15] rls-kk is empty [16:15] rls-jj has bug 1999345 only which is unchanged status (still w/ security) [16:15] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1999345 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "please add luks2 module to the signed grub2 images" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999345 [16:16] #topic proposed-migration [16:16] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs [16:17] libarchive I understand is going soon [16:17] I'll take tzdata (since I caused it and know exactly what to do) [16:17] schopin: you said libarchive should pass with a retry once "reprepro is published" which it appears to be, so I guess this is in flight and you'll resolve it soon? [16:18] vorlon: yes. [16:18] licensecheck has bug 2003083 as excuse [16:18] sbuild's still with me [16:18] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2003083 in licensecheck (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libstring-license-perl" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2003083 [16:18] licensecheck has MIRs that were rejected [16:18] I don't remember who was working on that one, liushuyu ? [16:18] no, that was devscripts [16:19] so I'm not sure MIRs were rejected for licensecheck at all, sorry [16:19] I was working on libdigest-md5-file-perl and libswitch-perl for devscripts [16:19] was adrien working on this? [16:19] yes, adrien did the MIR in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libstring-license-perl/+bug/2003083 so this is in progress/blocked by MIR team [16:19] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2003083 in licensecheck (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libstring-license-perl" [Undecided, New] [16:20] sbuild: waveform: are you ok to continue on this one? [16:20] yes [16:21] schopin: are you still following glibc? [16:21] also dammit I just now realized I put my weekly status update in the old discourse post *again* because the link to the old post in the content is more obvious in the emails than the link to the current post [16:21] vorlon: yes. I have lilypond, aad-auth and python2.7 that are new failures. [16:22] The rest can be ignored for various reasons. [16:23] I see python2.7 blocking, that's an oops from me, there was a badtest hint that I dropped prematurely [16:23] great, one down two to go. [16:24] devscripts: *this* is the one with the rejected MIRs [16:24] so it's assigned, but depends on upstream Debian discussions and isn't critical for lunar [16:24] I volunteer for reviewing merge request for devscripts in Debian, but someone else should provide the patches [16:24] libio-socket-ssl-perl: adrien: can you take this? [16:24] I can work on devscripts, I have the patches ready [16:25] liushuyu: ack thanks [16:25] tcl8.6: just needs hinted around a blacklisted autopkgtest, I'll take this [16:25] ... however I don't have an account on Debian Salsa instance [16:25] make one :) [16:25] I can't open an MR on it [16:25] boost1.74: bdmurray: can you work on this? [16:25] liushuyu: it's an awkward signup process but you should get one [16:25] liushuyu, poke me once you have the MR submitted [16:26] lsb: dbungert? [16:26] vorlon: I'm heading out on holiday tomorrow until the 10th-ish [16:26] liushuyu: otherwise you could also create a merge-proposal on launchpad against devscripts [16:26] bdmurray: ack [16:26] lsb is in progress, much of it is complete with retests, dpdk has a test in the queue [16:26] so we can at least land the fixes in Ubuntu. Going through Debian/upstream would be better, though [16:26] liushuyu: just poke admin on #salsa @ oftc [16:26] cyrus-impad test look like nonsense, I was condering badtest [16:26] vorlon: I had libio-socket-ssl-perl last week. Just waiting on test retries. [16:27] ok [16:27] juliank: The new accont creation is restricted currently. I haven't get my account approved yet [16:27] danilogondolfo: did you look at lsb vs pcs or lsb vs rspamd? [16:27] adrien: can you take boost1.74 then? [16:28] I can look at that [16:28] that scares me :D [16:28] dbungert, I did, they pass locally. I saw they were retried and failed again. I need to understand why... [16:28] there's very little left to chase on boost1.74, I did most of it this week already [16:28] so waveform had lsb-release-minimal but now we have lsb [16:29] lsb was with danilogondolfo [16:29] ok [16:29] cd-boot-images is blocked by kernels [16:29] I think it's ready I'm confirming with xnox [16:30] lsb was split between danilogondolfo and myself [16:30] numpy: dbungert can you take this one? [16:30] (we released shim already) [16:30] vorlon: ack for numpy [16:30] glibc blocking audit, might just need a retry [16:30] audit: ginggs? [16:31] sure [16:31] lintian: dviererbe? [16:31] simplejson: xypron? [16:31] ok [16:31] zhsj: will do [16:31] ok [16:31] libsereal-decoder-perl: juliank? [16:31] bdrung: understood [16:32] ack [16:32] sphinx/librsvg: slyon? [16:32] ok [16:32] python3.11: enr0n? [16:32] vorlon: ack [16:32] xz-utils: ogayot? [16:33] libzstd: liushuyu? [16:33] vorlon: ack, I might no be able to get to it before next meeting since I'm off next week though [16:33] publicsuffix: I'll take this [16:33] ogayot: ok [16:33] vorlon: I can take libzstd [16:33] liushuyu: thanks [16:33] who's not here that should take some [16:33] binutils: mwhudson [16:33] kmod: vpa1977 [16:34] python3-stdlib-extensions: zhsj [16:34] i merged kmod, so maybe me.. [16:34] oh [16:34] yes, please take kmod and ignore python3-stdlib-extensions [16:34] juliank: back to you [16:34] should vpa1977 take the latter one then? [16:35] yes [16:35] #topic AOB [16:35] I added a task for mclemenceau to document how to optimally discover proposed-migration items in the jira workflow [16:35] I'm going on holiday until what is effectively the 13th starting tomorrow [16:36] I'm out tomorrow & monday [16:36] I'm out on Monday. [16:36] I'm out on tomorrow [16:36] Debian hard freeze is next week (the 12th), if you have stuff to upstream hurry up (and only small targeted fixes). [16:36] I'll be off tomorrow and there is a local public holiday next Wednesday [16:36] juliank: Ack ;) [16:37] juliank: it's today, 10days migration :) [16:37] I have a local public holiday next Tuesday [16:37] what do we think about badtesting cyrus-imapd? It looks like it has been in a bad state for some time, and I'm unsure why we un-badtested it. [16:37] hmm [16:38] dbungert: it hasn't had a badtest hint since Apr 2022 and then only on ppc64el [16:38] if it's flaky, a baseline retest (retry-autopkgtest-regressions --no-proposed) is likely better than a badtest [16:38] it's timed out? [16:39] maybe big package? [16:39] sometimes it takes a half hour, sometimes it takes 3 hours [16:40] that seems worth investigating before we throw it into long_tests [16:42] #endmeeting [16:42] Meeting ended at 16:42:43 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-03-02-16.00.moin.txt [16:42] juliank: thanks! [16:53] dbungert: I uploaded a fix for the DPDK tests which fail on one of our clouds as the chips are different [16:54] dbungert: I'll retrigger lsb (and others) once ready (probably tomorrow morning) [16:55] cpaelzer: nice, thanks. dpdk test is running now on arm64, perhaps it will pass there [16:55] if it runs on bos01 it will always work and on bos02 it will always fail [16:55] with the fix it will work or skip [16:55] after checking with paride and bdmurray that there is no way to express to only be able to run on either === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [19:46] #ubuntu-rmb [19:47] oops [19:47] diddledani: :) === Wild_Man is now known as Guest539 [19:56] Guest539: Bad config still, Wildman ?? [19:57] Hi this is Wild Man, I do not know but it seems so [19:58] Hi Guest539 [19:58] hi diddledani [20:00] Guest539: Have you registeed your username 'Wildman'on the network ? [20:01] hi guys [20:01] Yes, it was working again so i do not know what happened but I do not have time to worry about it right now [20:02] we're still waiting on the candidate [20:12] I'll give them till quarter past and then let you all go if they're not here by then [20:12] oh my, not often an applicant is late [20:13] They may have the time wrong it happens [20:13] any contact info on him? [20:13] yeah, might be worth it if you all can to pop back at the 22:00 meeting time in case they got the wrong entry for today [20:14] There's no public email on their LP page, but we can use the "contact" feature on there [20:14] ^ Looking on the agenda page and the meeting date has been changed for Efstathios Iosifidis (??) . [20:15] i just mailed him [20:15] I mentioned that in my email last night - the date on that page is *not* their chosen meeting date - that is the date they added their entry [20:15] oh my [20:16] So, Feb 10th is after the previous Thursday meeting for February, therefore they are scheduled for today [20:16] It doesn't help that the heading bar isn't showing due to some changes in the wiki [20:16] I thought today as well [20:17] what is involved to get every thing back to the old way [20:17] with highlight (sorry about accessibility issues for poor eyesight) you can see the heading bar is supposed to indicate "date added" to the list: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/y4h0Hzzg/image.png [20:17] like launchpad and wiki instead of concours [20:18] Kilos: I can try and revert to the old version of the WIKI. I looked at this earlier and I do think that I can do that, [20:18] that will be great Bashing-om [20:18] I think the issue is the wiki version was changed which broke styles across the whole wiki [20:18] i.e. not just our pages, but everywhere [20:19] and applicants must be pointed to launchpad not concourse [20:19] the top bar is broken styling too: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/gOYmhVWD/image.png [20:20] I cant find madhen, emails dont deliver either [20:21] she left Canonical [20:21] so why ubuntu as well? [20:21] grrr [20:22] diddledani can you remember the guy who helped her with concourse [20:23] no, I don't know who that was [20:26] Who owns the concourse thing? maybe he/she can point it to our fridge calender [20:26] the membership application that is [20:27] genii hi there, long time no hear [20:27] iosifidis: is here :) Is there time now to process the application ? [20:28] Hello. Did I miss the meeting? [20:28] Yes yes [20:28] hi io [20:28] iosifidis welcome [20:28] Hello to everone [20:28] lets go diddledani [20:29] maybe Mauro Gaspari can point the way for whoever was involved with discourse [20:29] https://launchpad.net/~ilvipero [20:30] ok, I'm just about to start the meeting [20:30] #startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board [20:30] Meeting started at 20:30:47 UTC. The chair is diddledani. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [20:30] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [20:31] Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for 2nd March 2023. The wiki page for the Review Boards is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards [20:31] We will attempt to get through all the applicants that have added themselves to that list, or posted a thread to the Ubuntu Discourse, before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the complete list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. [20:31] The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). [20:31] Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page or Ubuntu Discourse thread. After the introduction, the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. [20:31] During this time, it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. [20:31] When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If most of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (Feel free congratulate them!) [20:31] Now, with any further ado, let's get started with the first applicant... [20:31] only one candidate today: Efstathios Iosifidis [20:32] Hello. [20:32] @iosifidis could you introduce yourself to the board and share your links to your discourse or wiki post and your launchpad page (if you have a prepared statement, please deliver it) [20:32] * genii slides Kilos a surprise coffee and then runs back to work again [20:32] :) o/* [20:32] My name is Stathis. My day job is Veterinarian. I decided to make a career change and now I am a 3rd-year student of applied informatics at the university of Macedonia. My first involvement with open source started with Shipt. My first version was 7.04 but my favorite was Hardy Heron 8.04. Since then I got involved with many events, either [20:32] organized by me or as a guest speaker at conferences. I got involved in GNOME community. Greek community hosted GUADEC 2019 in my city. [20:33] * Kilos smlies and sips, ty so much [20:33] I am a very active member of the Loco team. My late involvement with Ubuntu is a promotion at my university to the open source team. I am hosting release parties. I will organize presentations involving Ubuntu technologies. We are planning to create a script and/or an ISO with the software we are using at the university. That is a future project. I [20:33] have been to Ubuntu Summit 2022 and I was amazed by the community. I have been to many conferences in the past. I have to say that Summit was the best conference I have been to. [20:33] My university is going to host KDE Akademy (KDE's conference). I am on the organizing committee and I am promoting it to the rest of the academic community. [20:33] My university promotes startups, and spinoffs and I am planning to create something using Ubuntu technologies. I am still forming the idea that solves a problem. [20:33] My Discourse application is https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/efstathios-iosifidis-membership-application/33695 [20:33] My wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/iosifidis [20:34] And Launchpad is https://launchpad.net/~iosifidis [20:35] I am here if you need to clarify anything. [20:35] thank you. I'll give the board a few moments to have a read through your links and then will open the floor to any questions they may have (and I'll get a glass of water while they do that :-) ) [20:35] Thanks [20:37] ok, let's open the floor to questions - first one from me: you've signed the code of conduct. did you understand everything in the code and do you agree to abide by its rules for the duration of your membership should you be successful today? [20:37] Yes. Of course. [20:38] awesome [20:38] Every conference I organize, I always look code of conduct [20:38] great [20:40] Eminently qualified with good testimonial of service - I have no questions. [20:41] ok, anyone else have any questions? I'm happy to move onto the vote if we're all set? [20:41] no questions guys, he has been working for a long time for us [20:41] awesome, let's do the vote then - wait till I've marked who the expected voters are with the bot... [20:42] #vote Efstathios Iosifidis' application for ubuntu membership [20:42] Please vote on: Efstathios Iosifidis' application for ubuntu membership [20:42] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, -1 or +0 in channel (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1|-1|+0 #channelname') [20:42] #voters kilos, Bashing-om, diddledani [20:42] Current voters: Bashing-om, diddledani, kilos [20:42] +1 [20:42] +1 received from Bashing-om [20:42] +1 keep up the good work [20:42] grrrr [20:42] +1 [20:43] the bot hates me [20:43] +1 from me, too, this is a thorough application and has goot testimonials [20:43] +1 from me, too, this is a thorough application and has goot testimonials received from diddledani [20:43] oh that's my fault, Kilos [20:43] #voters Kilos, Bashing-om, diddledani [20:43] Current voters: Bashing-om, Kilos, diddledani, kilos [20:43] lol [20:43] try now [20:43] +1 keep up the good work [20:43] +1 keep up the good work received from Kilos [20:43] woohoooo [20:43] silly case-sensitive bot [20:44] we also have a +1 by proxy [20:44] Thank you all. [20:44] congratulations iosifidis [20:44] #endvote [20:44] Voting ended on: Efstathios Iosifidis' application for ubuntu membership [20:44] Votes for: 3, Votes against: 0, Abstentions: 0 [20:44] Motion carried [20:44] Congratulations [20:44] iosifidis congrats and welcome to the team [20:44] Thank you. [20:45] iosifidis: before you go, I'd like to share some info about the perks [20:45] OK. I would also like to ask for next steps. [20:45] iosifidis: \o/ ! [20:46] I'll be adding you to the ~ubuntumembers group on LP, after which time your @ubuntu.com email address should be activated between 48-72 hours. Do *not* set this as your LaunchPad primary email address as that will cause an infinite loop in the forwarding service [20:47] Also, once I've added you to ~ubuntumembers you'll be able to claim your certificate of membership signed by Mark Shuttleworth at https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/. You can see the other perks at https://ubuntu.com/community/membership/perks. [20:48] Perfect [20:48] Could I ask you to send me an email address that will get to you but must be acceptable for you to be publicly visible in the mailing list archives for the announcement of your successful application. Also could you let me know your pronouns (e.g. mine are She/Her). DM is fine for these. [20:50] With that I'll end the meeting, thank you everyone for coming along, and congratulations again, iosifidis! [20:50] thanks for chairing agin diddledani [20:50] Thank you all for your support. [20:51] my pleasure, Kilos , and it's the whole board's pleasure, iosifidis <3 [20:51] #endmeeting [20:51] Meeting ended at 20:51:31 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-03-02-20.30.moin.txt [20:52] Bye for now. See you later. [21:11] duh, too late, I guess [21:11] wasn't this in 1 hour? [21:12] 1 hour ago [21:13] oh, wait, this was for the 2000 board [21:13] damn