| mmikowski | Given that 5.27 is the last of the 5-series, hopefully the concentration on that branch will help get that sorted. | 00:25 |
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| mmikowski | In any event, best of luck to you! | 00:25 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Arang> guys i wonder if anyone could lend me a hand, with 5.26.* plasma, when i wanted to make my screen more readable i used to raise the font dpi from 96 to 110 and that get me the magic but with 5.27.2 it does not work, so i am forced to use global fractional scale which make some apps and text a tad blurry and it is messing with my head anyone knows about this? | 00:30 |
| mmikowski | arang: 5.27 global scale now works much better. | 00:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Arang> i just set it up but its still blurry | 00:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Arang> i restart the whole laptop when i change settings just to be sure | 00:31 |
| mmikowski | I was just telling Roey that at kubuntu focus, we are moving to global scale instead of DPI because it now works correctly. | 00:31 |
| mmikowski | Hmm, odd. | 00:32 |
| mmikowski | Do you have both working at the same time? | 00:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Arang> no | 00:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Arang> i prefer ceteris paribus with these things | 00:32 |
| mmikowski | So here, using GobalScale=1.5 and with forced DPI turned off and 4k monitors, the effect is *usually* exactly the same as I used to see with 144 forced DPI. | 00:34 |
| mmikowski | But, in 5.27, Google Chrome no longer scales correctly with DPI. It does, however, scale correctly with the Global Scale set to 1.5. | 00:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <zparihar> Yes, X is in Kubuntu LTS is a problem for me (re @IrcsomeBot: <OnkelTem> On my Kubuntu 22.04.2 LTS X session stared to hang 5+ times per day when I'm switching desktops.) | 00:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Arang> i dont use chrome but brave and in brave the text looks blurry | 00:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Arang> i wonder if it has to do anything with running wayland | 00:35 |
| Roey | <mmikowski> I was just telling Roey that at kubuntu focus, we are moving to global scale instead of DPI because it now works correctly. | 00:38 |
| Roey | <mmikowski> Hmm, odd. <- I don't see that owrking corectly in hexchat though (using kubuntu stock here) | 00:38 |
| mmikowski | Roey: Kfocus uses Kubuntu 22.04 LTS stock, but then adds some tools, themes, and hardware config and power-save subsystems. | 00:39 |
| mmikowski | The KDE system is exactly the same. However, you are on 22.10 IIRC, so that might make a difference. | 00:40 |
| Roey | mmikowski: ok | 00:40 |
| Roey | aye | 00:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Arang> im on 22.10 | 00:40 |
| mmikowski | So on 22.04 LTS with 5.27 proposed, that's how it looks. | 00:41 |
| Roey | k | 00:42 |
| mmikowski | In fact, it is indistinguishable from the prior forced-dpi settings. | 00:42 |
| * Roey doesn't know how to go forward from here | 00:42 | |
| mmikowski | Lemme see, hexchat is not an app I personally use. | 00:42 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Arang> well it might be my perception but the blurriness in my brave seems tied to wayland and kde 5.27 i just switched to x11 and text looks better with scale 125% | 00:43 |
| mmikowski | ok Roey, because I respect you as an individual, I will install hexchat and see how it looks. | 00:43 |
| mmikowski | Ah! Arang, that's it! | 00:43 |
| mmikowski | We run X11. Nvidia. Big Monster GPUs. | 00:43 |
| mmikowski | Wayland is a whole other ball of wax. | 00:43 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Arang> yeah | 00:44 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Arang> still i think we are all moving to wayland sooner or later right? | 00:44 |
| mmikowski | btw, "because I respect you as an individual ... " was supposed to have a winky face ;) | 00:44 |
| mmikowski | Roey: Please make sure you are on X11 to see if scaling works better there. | 00:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Arang> i use wayland because i use sometimes waydroid | 00:45 |
| mmikowski | That looks way cool. | 00:47 |
| mmikowski | hmm, maybe use weston for this? | 00:48 |
| mmikowski | https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/qs9c9s/how_to_run_waydroid_under_xorg/ | 00:48 |
| mmikowski | I'm not knocking Wayland at all - there are many fantastic things about it. | 00:49 |
| mmikowski | Roey: Building hexchat... | 00:52 |
| mmikowski | Roey: Are you running hexchat as a flatpak? | 00:53 |
| Roey | not tht I know of, mmikowski | 00:53 |
| Roey | I simply installed it via apt-get | 00:53 |
| Roey | <mmikowski> Roey: Please make sure you are on X11 to see if scaling works better there. <= yep, am definitely on x11 | 00:54 |
| Roey | and not wayland | 00:54 |
| Roey | <mmikowski> ok Roey, because I respect you as an individual, I will install hexchat and see how it looks. <- thank you! | 00:54 |
| Roey | (was cooking, apologies for my delayed responses) | 00:54 |
| Roey | I'll be BBIAB; eating | 00:55 |
| mmikowski | Roey | 00:55 |
| mmikowski | Scaling is fine here. | 00:55 |
| mmikowski | at 1.5x global scale. | 00:55 |
| mmikowski | Very crisp. | 00:55 |
| mmikowski | Let me try 1.25 | 00:55 |
| mmikowski | Same for 1.25 | 00:56 |
| mmikowski | both crisp. | 00:56 |
| mmikowski | Roey: Yeah, apt-get is better. I stupidly compiled it. Thank goodness for apt-rollback. | 01:10 |
| mmikowski | https://justpaste.it/4rfni | 01:21 |
| mmikowski | ^^ Roey: That is a snapshot from my screen. When viewed at native size, you can see it is very crisp. | 01:38 |
| Roey | mmikowski: aye | 01:54 |
| Roey | how can I get this on my setup then? | 01:54 |
| Roey | short of installing Focus? | 01:54 |
| mmikowski | Well, I'm not certain. Lots of variables. | 01:55 |
| mmikowski | Kfocus won't be available for a few days. Install from the ISO which will then upgrade https://kfocus.org/try. | 01:55 |
| mmikowski | But that's 22.04 LTS. | 01:55 |
| mmikowski | Besides, I'm not certain why it's different here - assuming it is. | 01:56 |
| mmikowski | right? | 01:56 |
| mmikowski | What's weird is nothing is blurry like it used to be. | 01:56 |
| mmikowski | But yours is. | 01:57 |
| mmikowski | Maybe give it a little time to get sorted out. | 01:57 |
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| mmikowski | Roey: getting dinner. Good luck with scaling. I hope that was useful. | 02:46 |
| Roey | https://www.elitereaders.com/40-insanely-funny-say-no-more-memes-to-crack-you-up/ | 02:52 |
| Roey | oh wrong channel | 02:52 |
| Roey | <KDE user> I want to divide my desktop into infinitely stupid tiles | 02:53 |
| Roey | <devs> SAY NO MORE!! | 02:53 |
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| kirvesAxe | Ugh. After kubuntu version upgrade, I am once again tormented by Discover... Assuming I want to get rid of it, are there packages I should remove other than ones beginning with plasma-discover ? Are there any other settings I should touch before removing those? (I want to keep on using synaptic) | 11:14 |
| guiverc | kirvesAxe, synaptic isn't very efficient on a Qt5 environment; why not use `muon` ? | 11:59 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:36 |
| user|20 | hi | 16:44 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Crewmator> Hi guys, I'm having problems with VPN, I can't connect to any. I tried 4 different VPNs, but it didn't work... | 17:20 |
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| mmikowski | Crewmator: OpenVPN has always worked for me. | 19:58 |
| mmikowski | What failed? | 19:58 |
| mmikowski | Who are you trying to connect with? | 19:58 |
| mmikowski | It needs to be configure to work with Linux clients; some admins block linux clients just to be jerks IME. | 19:59 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Crewdevelop> I'll try (re @IrcsomeBot: <mmikowski> Crewmator: OpenVPN has always worked for me.) | 20:38 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Crewdevelop> It says "Can't activate connection" (re @IrcsomeBot: <mmikowski> What failed?) | 20:40 |
| kirvesAxe | guiverc, is there something package-handling -related that synaptic cannot do? I've used it pretty much since it it replaced Adept as kubuntu's default package manager and gotten used to it :) | 21:26 |
| guiverc | kirvesAxe, No, synaptic is a GTK app (see https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/synaptic) thus is less efficient on a Qt desktop when compared to the Qt equivalent Muon which is included by default on Kubuntu (https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/22.10/release/kubuntu-22.10-desktop-amd64.manifest) | 21:32 |
| guiverc | If you want to use it, have plenty of resources; then you can use it without worry... It just cannot share libs/tks with the desktop (being gtk3) | 21:34 |
| alkisg | Eh, synaptic needs 200MB, a browser needs 2000MB with the first open tab... PCs need resources for surfing nowdays, not for local applications... :D | 21:46 |
| kirvesAxe | guiverc, ...the generic build of synaptic is so lightweight it has practically no resource usage in this 7-inch netbook compared to me running Firefox with over 5 tabs, lol | 21:46 |
| kirvesAxe | But Muon doesn't look horrible | 21:46 |
| kirvesAxe | I guess I'll give it a try... but the obvious part of my question was not that, it was the "getting rid of Discover" part :) | 21:47 |
| guiverc | Yep.. if I was on the box I'm using now I'd use what I was most comfortable with, but we all use different boxes; different resources (large, small) & you decide for yourself if the gtk libs it requires will already exist in your RAM or need to be loaded.. We're also using package managers usually only briefly & not leaving them in the background so 'hit' should be minimal too | 21:49 |
| harpia | After switching to Kubuntu I noticed one missing feature. The "pinentry" (a small GUI password prompt) doesn't appear for SSH authentication, and there's no grace period. I suppose the ssh-agent isn't properly configured for that. What do you do? | 22:34 |
| valorie | have you tried `apt search pinentry` | 22:36 |
| valorie | harpia: ^^^ | 22:36 |
| harpia | it comes installed by default | 22:36 |
| valorie | right, but perhaps it became uninstalled somehow | 22:36 |
| harpia | it's working for gpg | 22:36 |
| harpia | just not for ssh | 22:36 |
| valorie | ah, ok | 22:36 |
| valorie | haven't used ssh for yonks so .... dunno | 22:37 |
| valorie | you might find more help in #ubuntu since it's a larger chan | 22:37 |
| valorie | !ssh-agent | 22:38 |
| valorie | !info ssh-agent | 22:38 |
| ubottu | Package ssh-agent does not exist in kinetic | 22:38 |
| valorie | hmmm | 22:38 |
| valorie | those are base packages and I would ask in #ubuntu | 22:38 |
| harpia | Just for clarity, an example of the problem: you run a `git push` over ssh, and now you have to type the SSH key passphrase. Instead of a graphical prompt, I have to type it directly in the terminal. GTK distros like Xubuntu or Ubuntu (w/ GNOME) would show you a small GUI prompt and give you a grace period (remember authentication for a while). | 22:41 |
| valorie | oh yes I remember | 22:42 |
| valorie | and I've never used gtk so yes, it used to work in kubuntu | 22:42 |
| valorie | but I never had to configure or re-configure ssh-agent | 22:43 |
| harpia | Some have suggested workarounds here. I'll take a look at them later: https://serverfault.com/questions/254508/using-ssh-agent-with-kde | 22:44 |
| harpia | Not sure if that is the same problem I'm describing though. | 22:44 |
| valorie | kde4! | 22:44 |
| harpia | ah, right, the question is old | 22:45 |
| valorie | and I've always used kdewallet | 22:45 |
| valorie | which for some reason, some people hate on | 22:45 |
| valorie | I set it to use my main passw and never notice it at all | 22:46 |
| valorie | it's always Just Worked | 22:46 |
| valorie | so I'm not a whole lotta help in fixing | 22:46 |
| valorie | :-) | 22:46 |
| valorie | there is a 2022 answer tho | 22:48 |
| valorie | never had to mess with pam, kwallet, ssh-agent etc. | 22:49 |
| ewomer | Trying to run commands on an external (usb) hard drive mounted with ntfs3 using udisks2 and every command ends up going into disksleep | 23:07 |
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