[00:25] <mmikowski> Given that 5.27 is the last of the 5-series, hopefully the concentration on that branch will help get that sorted.
[00:25] <mmikowski> In any event, best of luck to you!
 guys i wonder if anyone could lend me a hand, with 5.26.* plasma, when i wanted to make my screen more readable i used to raise the font dpi  from 96 to 110 and that get me the magic but with 5.27.2 it does not work, so i am forced to use global fractional scale which make some apps and text a tad blurry and it is messing with my head anyone knows about this?
[00:31] <mmikowski> arang: 5.27 global scale now works much better.
 i just set it up but its still blurry
 i restart the whole laptop when i change settings just to be sure
[00:31] <mmikowski> I was just telling Roey that at kubuntu focus, we are moving to global scale instead of DPI because it now works correctly.
[00:32] <mmikowski> Hmm, odd.
[00:32] <mmikowski> Do you have both working at the same time?
 no
 i prefer ceteris paribus with these things
[00:34] <mmikowski> So here, using GobalScale=1.5 and with forced DPI turned off and 4k monitors, the effect is *usually* exactly the same as I used to see with 144 forced DPI.
[00:35] <mmikowski> But, in 5.27, Google Chrome no longer scales correctly with DPI. It does, however, scale correctly with the Global Scale set to 1.5.
 Yes, X is in Kubuntu LTS is a problem for me (re @IrcsomeBot: <OnkelTem> On my Kubuntu 22.04.2 LTS X session stared to hang 5+ times per day when I'm switching desktops.)
 i dont use chrome but brave and in brave the text looks blurry
 i wonder if it has to do anything with running wayland
 I was just telling Roey that at kubuntu focus, we are moving to global scale instead of DPI because it now works correctly.
 Hmm, odd. <- I don't see that owrking corectly in hexchat though (using kubuntu stock here)
[00:39] <mmikowski> Roey: Kfocus uses Kubuntu 22.04 LTS stock, but then adds some tools, themes, and hardware config and power-save subsystems.
[00:40] <mmikowski> The KDE system is exactly the same. However, you are on 22.10 IIRC, so that might make a difference.
[00:40] <Roey> mmikowski: ok
[00:40] <Roey> aye
 im on 22.10
[00:41] <mmikowski> So on 22.04 LTS with 5.27 proposed, that's how it looks.
[00:42] <Roey> k
[00:42] <mmikowski> In fact, it is indistinguishable from the prior forced-dpi settings.
[00:42]  * Roey doesn't know how to go forward from here
[00:42] <mmikowski> Lemme see, hexchat is not an app I personally use.
 well it might be my perception but the blurriness in my brave seems tied to wayland and kde 5.27 i just switched to x11 and text looks better with scale 125%
[00:43] <mmikowski> ok Roey, because I respect you as an individual, I will install hexchat and see how it looks.
[00:43] <mmikowski> Ah! Arang, that's it!
[00:43] <mmikowski> We run X11. Nvidia. Big Monster GPUs.
[00:43] <mmikowski> Wayland is a whole other ball of wax.
 yeah
 still i think we are all moving to wayland sooner or later right?
[00:44] <mmikowski> btw, "because I respect you as an individual ... " was supposed to have a winky face ;)
[00:45] <mmikowski> Roey: Please make sure you are on X11 to see if scaling works better there.
 i use wayland because i use sometimes waydroid
[00:47] <mmikowski> That looks way cool.
[00:48] <mmikowski> hmm, maybe use weston for this?
[00:48] <mmikowski> https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/qs9c9s/how_to_run_waydroid_under_xorg/
[00:49] <mmikowski> I'm not knocking Wayland at all - there are many fantastic things about it.
[00:52] <mmikowski> Roey: Building hexchat...
[00:53] <mmikowski> Roey: Are you running hexchat as a flatpak?
[00:53] <Roey> not tht I know of, mmikowski
[00:53] <Roey> I simply installed it via apt-get
 Roey: Please make sure you are on X11 to see if scaling works better there. <= yep, am definitely on x11
[00:54] <Roey> and not wayland
 ok Roey, because I respect you as an individual, I will install hexchat and see how it looks. <- thank you!
[00:54] <Roey> (was cooking, apologies for my delayed responses)
[00:55] <Roey> I'll be BBIAB; eating
[00:55] <mmikowski> Roey
[00:55] <mmikowski> Scaling is fine here.
[00:55] <mmikowski> at 1.5x global scale.
[00:55] <mmikowski> Very crisp.
[00:55] <mmikowski> Let me try 1.25
[00:56] <mmikowski> Same for 1.25
[00:56] <mmikowski> both crisp.
[01:10] <mmikowski> Roey: Yeah, apt-get is better. I stupidly compiled it. Thank goodness for apt-rollback.
[01:21] <mmikowski> https://justpaste.it/4rfni
[01:38] <mmikowski> ^^ Roey: That is a snapshot from my screen. When viewed at native size, you can see it is very crisp.
[01:54] <Roey> mmikowski: aye
[01:54] <Roey> how can I get this on my setup then?
[01:54] <Roey> short of installing Focus?
[01:55] <mmikowski> Well, I'm not certain. Lots of variables.
[01:55] <mmikowski> Kfocus won't be available for a few days. Install from the ISO which will then upgrade https://kfocus.org/try.
[01:55] <mmikowski> But that's 22.04 LTS.
[01:56] <mmikowski> Besides, I'm not certain why it's different here - assuming it is.
[01:56] <mmikowski> right?
[01:56] <mmikowski> What's weird is nothing is blurry like it used to be.
[01:57] <mmikowski> But yours is.
[01:57] <mmikowski> Maybe give it a little time to get sorted out.
[02:46] <mmikowski> Roey: getting dinner.  Good luck with scaling. I hope that was useful.
[02:52] <Roey> https://www.elitereaders.com/40-insanely-funny-say-no-more-memes-to-crack-you-up/
[02:52] <Roey> oh wrong channel
[02:53] <Roey> <KDE user> I want to divide my desktop into infinitely stupid tiles
 SAY NO MORE!!
[11:14] <kirvesAxe> Ugh. After kubuntu version upgrade, I am once again tormented by Discover... Assuming I want to get rid of it, are there packages I should remove other than ones beginning with plasma-discover ? Are there any other settings I should touch before removing those? (I want to keep on using synaptic)
[11:59] <guiverc> kirvesAxe, synaptic isn't very efficient on a Qt5 environment; why not use `muon` ?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[16:44] <user|20> hi
 Hi guys, I'm having problems with VPN, I can't connect to any. I tried 4 different VPNs, but it didn't work...
[19:58] <mmikowski> Crewmator: OpenVPN has always worked for me.
[19:58] <mmikowski> What failed?
[19:58] <mmikowski> Who are you trying to connect with?
[19:59] <mmikowski> It needs to be configure to work with Linux clients; some admins block linux clients just to be jerks IME.
 I'll try (re @IrcsomeBot: <mmikowski> Crewmator: OpenVPN has always worked for me.)
 It says "Can't activate connection" (re @IrcsomeBot: <mmikowski> What failed?)
[21:26] <kirvesAxe> guiverc, is there something package-handling -related that synaptic cannot do? I've used it pretty much since it it replaced Adept as kubuntu's default package manager and gotten used to it :)
[21:32] <guiverc> kirvesAxe, No, synaptic is a GTK app (see https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/synaptic) thus is less efficient on a Qt desktop when compared to the Qt equivalent Muon which is included by default on Kubuntu  (https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/22.10/release/kubuntu-22.10-desktop-amd64.manifest)
[21:34] <guiverc> If you want to use it, have plenty of resources; then you can use it without worry...  It just cannot share libs/tks with the desktop (being gtk3)
[21:46] <alkisg> Eh, synaptic needs 200MB, a browser needs 2000MB with the first open tab... PCs need resources for surfing nowdays, not for local applications... :D
[21:46] <kirvesAxe> guiverc, ...the generic build of synaptic is so lightweight it has practically no resource usage in this 7-inch netbook compared to me running Firefox with over 5 tabs, lol
[21:46] <kirvesAxe> But Muon doesn't look horrible
[21:47] <kirvesAxe> I guess I'll give it a try... but the obvious part of my question was not that, it was the "getting rid of Discover" part :)
[21:49] <guiverc> Yep.. if I was on the box I'm using now I'd use what I was most comfortable with, but we all use different boxes; different resources (large, small) & you decide for yourself if the gtk libs it requires will already exist in your RAM or need to be loaded..  We're also using package managers usually only briefly & not leaving them in the background so 'hit' should be minimal too
[22:34] <harpia> After switching to Kubuntu I noticed one missing feature. The "pinentry" (a small GUI password prompt) doesn't appear for SSH authentication, and there's no grace period. I suppose the ssh-agent isn't properly configured for that. What do you do?
[22:36] <valorie> have you tried `apt search pinentry`
[22:36] <valorie> harpia: ^^^
[22:36] <harpia> it comes installed by default
[22:36] <valorie> right, but perhaps it became uninstalled somehow
[22:36] <harpia> it's working for gpg
[22:36] <harpia> just not for ssh
[22:36] <valorie> ah, ok
[22:37] <valorie> haven't used ssh for yonks so .... dunno
[22:37] <valorie> you might find more help in #ubuntu since it's a larger chan
[22:38] <valorie> !ssh-agent
[22:38] <valorie> !info ssh-agent
[22:38] <valorie> hmmm
[22:38] <valorie> those are base packages and I would ask in #ubuntu
[22:41] <harpia> Just for clarity, an example of the problem: you run a `git push` over ssh, and now you have to type the SSH key passphrase. Instead of a graphical prompt, I have to type it directly in the terminal. GTK distros like Xubuntu or Ubuntu (w/ GNOME) would show you a small GUI prompt and give you a grace period (remember authentication for a while).
[22:42] <valorie> oh yes I remember
[22:42] <valorie> and I've never used gtk so yes, it used to work in kubuntu
[22:43] <valorie> but I never had to configure or re-configure ssh-agent
[22:44] <harpia> Some have suggested workarounds here. I'll take a look at them later: https://serverfault.com/questions/254508/using-ssh-agent-with-kde
[22:44] <harpia> Not sure if that is the same problem I'm describing though.
[22:44] <valorie> kde4!
[22:45] <harpia> ah, right, the question is old
[22:45] <valorie> and I've always used kdewallet
[22:45] <valorie> which for some reason, some people hate on
[22:46] <valorie> I set it to use my main passw and never notice it at all
[22:46] <valorie> it's always Just Worked
[22:46] <valorie> so I'm not a whole lotta help in fixing
[22:46] <valorie> :-)
[22:48] <valorie> there is a 2022 answer tho
[22:49] <valorie> never had to mess with pam, kwallet, ssh-agent etc.
[23:07] <ewomer> Trying to run commands on an external (usb) hard drive mounted with ntfs3 using udisks2 and every command ends up going into disksleep