[00:25] Given that 5.27 is the last of the 5-series, hopefully the concentration on that branch will help get that sorted. [00:25] In any event, best of luck to you! [00:30] guys i wonder if anyone could lend me a hand, with 5.26.* plasma, when i wanted to make my screen more readable i used to raise the font dpi from 96 to 110 and that get me the magic but with 5.27.2 it does not work, so i am forced to use global fractional scale which make some apps and text a tad blurry and it is messing with my head anyone knows about this? [00:31] arang: 5.27 global scale now works much better. [00:31] i just set it up but its still blurry [00:31] i restart the whole laptop when i change settings just to be sure [00:31] I was just telling Roey that at kubuntu focus, we are moving to global scale instead of DPI because it now works correctly. [00:32] Hmm, odd. [00:32] Do you have both working at the same time? [00:32] no [00:32] i prefer ceteris paribus with these things [00:34] So here, using GobalScale=1.5 and with forced DPI turned off and 4k monitors, the effect is *usually* exactly the same as I used to see with 144 forced DPI. [00:35] But, in 5.27, Google Chrome no longer scales correctly with DPI. It does, however, scale correctly with the Global Scale set to 1.5. [00:35] Yes, X is in Kubuntu LTS is a problem for me (re @IrcsomeBot: On my Kubuntu 22.04.2 LTS X session stared to hang 5+ times per day when I'm switching desktops.) [00:35] i dont use chrome but brave and in brave the text looks blurry [00:35] i wonder if it has to do anything with running wayland [00:38] I was just telling Roey that at kubuntu focus, we are moving to global scale instead of DPI because it now works correctly. [00:38] Hmm, odd. <- I don't see that owrking corectly in hexchat though (using kubuntu stock here) [00:39] Roey: Kfocus uses Kubuntu 22.04 LTS stock, but then adds some tools, themes, and hardware config and power-save subsystems. [00:40] The KDE system is exactly the same. However, you are on 22.10 IIRC, so that might make a difference. [00:40] mmikowski: ok [00:40] aye [00:40] im on 22.10 [00:41] So on 22.04 LTS with 5.27 proposed, that's how it looks. [00:42] k [00:42] In fact, it is indistinguishable from the prior forced-dpi settings. [00:42] * Roey doesn't know how to go forward from here [00:42] Lemme see, hexchat is not an app I personally use. [00:43] well it might be my perception but the blurriness in my brave seems tied to wayland and kde 5.27 i just switched to x11 and text looks better with scale 125% [00:43] ok Roey, because I respect you as an individual, I will install hexchat and see how it looks. [00:43] Ah! Arang, that's it! [00:43] We run X11. Nvidia. Big Monster GPUs. [00:43] Wayland is a whole other ball of wax. [00:44] yeah [00:44] still i think we are all moving to wayland sooner or later right? [00:44] btw, "because I respect you as an individual ... " was supposed to have a winky face ;) [00:45] Roey: Please make sure you are on X11 to see if scaling works better there. [00:45] i use wayland because i use sometimes waydroid [00:47] That looks way cool. [00:48] hmm, maybe use weston for this? [00:48] https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/qs9c9s/how_to_run_waydroid_under_xorg/ [00:49] I'm not knocking Wayland at all - there are many fantastic things about it. [00:52] Roey: Building hexchat... [00:53] Roey: Are you running hexchat as a flatpak? [00:53] not tht I know of, mmikowski [00:53] I simply installed it via apt-get [00:54] Roey: Please make sure you are on X11 to see if scaling works better there. <= yep, am definitely on x11 [00:54] and not wayland [00:54] ok Roey, because I respect you as an individual, I will install hexchat and see how it looks. <- thank you! [00:54] (was cooking, apologies for my delayed responses) [00:55] I'll be BBIAB; eating [00:55] Roey [00:55] Scaling is fine here. [00:55] at 1.5x global scale. [00:55] Very crisp. [00:55] Let me try 1.25 [00:56] Same for 1.25 [00:56] both crisp. [01:10] Roey: Yeah, apt-get is better. I stupidly compiled it. Thank goodness for apt-rollback. [01:21] https://justpaste.it/4rfni [01:38] ^^ Roey: That is a snapshot from my screen. When viewed at native size, you can see it is very crisp. [01:54] mmikowski: aye [01:54] how can I get this on my setup then? [01:54] short of installing Focus? [01:55] Well, I'm not certain. Lots of variables. [01:55] Kfocus won't be available for a few days. Install from the ISO which will then upgrade https://kfocus.org/try. [01:55] But that's 22.04 LTS. [01:56] Besides, I'm not certain why it's different here - assuming it is. [01:56] right? [01:56] What's weird is nothing is blurry like it used to be. [01:57] But yours is. [01:57] Maybe give it a little time to get sorted out. === Lord_of_Life_ is now known as Lord_of_Life [02:46] Roey: getting dinner. Good luck with scaling. I hope that was useful. [02:52] https://www.elitereaders.com/40-insanely-funny-say-no-more-memes-to-crack-you-up/ [02:52] oh wrong channel [02:53] I want to divide my desktop into infinitely stupid tiles [02:53] SAY NO MORE!! === m_ueberall is now known as ueberall === funelie is now known as bricolesbo [11:14] Ugh. After kubuntu version upgrade, I am once again tormented by Discover... Assuming I want to get rid of it, are there packages I should remove other than ones beginning with plasma-discover ? Are there any other settings I should touch before removing those? (I want to keep on using synaptic) [11:59] kirvesAxe, synaptic isn't very efficient on a Qt5 environment; why not use `muon` ? === max is now known as Guest7624 === TomTom_ is now known as TomTom [13:36] Hi all [16:44] hi [17:20] Hi guys, I'm having problems with VPN, I can't connect to any. I tried 4 different VPNs, but it didn't work... === mkv is now known as m4v [19:58] Crewmator: OpenVPN has always worked for me. [19:58] What failed? [19:58] Who are you trying to connect with? [19:59] It needs to be configure to work with Linux clients; some admins block linux clients just to be jerks IME. [20:38] I'll try (re @IrcsomeBot: Crewmator: OpenVPN has always worked for me.) [20:40] It says "Can't activate connection" (re @IrcsomeBot: What failed?) [21:26] guiverc, is there something package-handling -related that synaptic cannot do? I've used it pretty much since it it replaced Adept as kubuntu's default package manager and gotten used to it :) [21:32] kirvesAxe, No, synaptic is a GTK app (see https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/synaptic) thus is less efficient on a Qt desktop when compared to the Qt equivalent Muon which is included by default on Kubuntu (https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/22.10/release/kubuntu-22.10-desktop-amd64.manifest) [21:34] If you want to use it, have plenty of resources; then you can use it without worry... It just cannot share libs/tks with the desktop (being gtk3) [21:46] Eh, synaptic needs 200MB, a browser needs 2000MB with the first open tab... PCs need resources for surfing nowdays, not for local applications... :D [21:46] guiverc, ...the generic build of synaptic is so lightweight it has practically no resource usage in this 7-inch netbook compared to me running Firefox with over 5 tabs, lol [21:46] But Muon doesn't look horrible [21:47] I guess I'll give it a try... but the obvious part of my question was not that, it was the "getting rid of Discover" part :) [21:49] Yep.. if I was on the box I'm using now I'd use what I was most comfortable with, but we all use different boxes; different resources (large, small) & you decide for yourself if the gtk libs it requires will already exist in your RAM or need to be loaded.. We're also using package managers usually only briefly & not leaving them in the background so 'hit' should be minimal too [22:34] After switching to Kubuntu I noticed one missing feature. The "pinentry" (a small GUI password prompt) doesn't appear for SSH authentication, and there's no grace period. I suppose the ssh-agent isn't properly configured for that. What do you do? [22:36] have you tried `apt search pinentry` [22:36] harpia: ^^^ [22:36] it comes installed by default [22:36] right, but perhaps it became uninstalled somehow [22:36] it's working for gpg [22:36] just not for ssh [22:36] ah, ok [22:37] haven't used ssh for yonks so .... dunno [22:37] you might find more help in #ubuntu since it's a larger chan [22:38] !ssh-agent [22:38] !info ssh-agent [22:38] Package ssh-agent does not exist in kinetic [22:38] hmmm [22:38] those are base packages and I would ask in #ubuntu [22:41] Just for clarity, an example of the problem: you run a `git push` over ssh, and now you have to type the SSH key passphrase. Instead of a graphical prompt, I have to type it directly in the terminal. GTK distros like Xubuntu or Ubuntu (w/ GNOME) would show you a small GUI prompt and give you a grace period (remember authentication for a while). [22:42] oh yes I remember [22:42] and I've never used gtk so yes, it used to work in kubuntu [22:43] but I never had to configure or re-configure ssh-agent [22:44] Some have suggested workarounds here. I'll take a look at them later: https://serverfault.com/questions/254508/using-ssh-agent-with-kde [22:44] Not sure if that is the same problem I'm describing though. [22:44] kde4! [22:45] ah, right, the question is old [22:45] and I've always used kdewallet [22:45] which for some reason, some people hate on [22:46] I set it to use my main passw and never notice it at all [22:46] it's always Just Worked [22:46] so I'm not a whole lotta help in fixing [22:46] :-) [22:48] there is a 2022 answer tho [22:49] never had to mess with pam, kwallet, ssh-agent etc. [23:07] Trying to run commands on an external (usb) hard drive mounted with ntfs3 using udisks2 and every command ends up going into disksleep