[00:42] <Guest17> I have an error message on the menu panel (red stop sign icon), but doens't let me ScrnCap when visible, and goes away when I hit ESC
[00:45] <Guest17> and the error message is a bit ambiguous, regarding a failed upgrade, but can't find any details, any suggestions?
[00:47] <superkuh> Guest17, I'd open synaptic and look for "Broken" packages.
[00:48] <superkuh> Guest17, additionally you might see something in $ dmesg  or in syslog.
[00:48] <Guest17> superkuh is the the same as "software bouitque" ?
[00:48] <superkuh> Have you recently installed something out of a PPA?
[00:48] <superkuh> Um, I don't know.
[00:49] <superkuh> I don't know what "software bouitque" is.
[00:49] <Guest17> Not manuallly I havent'.
[00:49] <superkuh> synapic is the synaptic package manager. I thought it came with ubuntu. It's synaptic-pkexec as a process.
[00:49] <superkuh> I haven't used any modern Ubuntu releases though. Nothing past 14.04.
[00:50] <superkuh> $ sudo apt-get check
[00:50] <Guest17> This is ubuntu-mate I'm running, I cna't find pkg mgr from the menu
[00:50] <superkuh> That should give you a list of broken packages from the command line.
[00:51] <Guest17> nothing returned
[00:51] <superkuh> Er... there's no more apt-get, is there.
[00:51] <superkuh> Ubuntu changed it.
[00:51] <Guest17> Yeah there is, at least here
[00:52] <superkuh> I think rather than trying a bunch of cli stuff you should install synaptic package manager (ubuntu's package manager). https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/addremove-install-synaptic.html.en
[00:52] <superkuh> Then you can open it's GUI and look at the Broken packages list and get other information about problems with apt.
[00:57] <Guest17> pkg mgr says 0 broken
[00:59] <superkuh> Is it the red triangle icon?
[01:00] <superkuh> Oh. Stop sign. You already said.
[01:00] <superkuh> I guess write down what it says with another computer or pen and paper?
[01:02] <Guest17> Now the stop sign went away on it's own, SMH
[01:02] <superkuh> Computers!
[01:03] <Guest17> Figures.
[01:04] <Guest17> Now just to figure out where to report the Mate desktop bug