[15:54] <santa__> hello everyone
[15:56] <santa_> valorie: I don't have a strong opinion about the flatpak thing, but thanks for counting on me
[21:08] <valorie> santa_: <3
[21:08] <santa_> :)
[21:08] <valorie> it's not so much that I have an opinion, as that I see the history and *positions* that others have taken
[21:09] <valorie> Canonical /Mark have a different view of "freedom" in the linux ecosystem than some other players
[21:13] <valorie> and walking through minefields is not a fun sunday afternoon stroll
[21:16] <IrcsomeBot> <Rick_Timmis> Hi folks, I am trying to work through getting my packaging rig set up, so that I can turn my hand to help out. Hi santa_, @RikMills, @tsimonq2  would be good to work with you on this, I'll reach out when I get stuck.
[21:18] <IrcsomeBot> <Rick_Timmis> I do feel we have to focus on user experience, we have some derivatives that will make their user experience better than Kubuntu, and I think we'll need to find a way to address this. Of course, we also want to stay aligned with Ubuntu main, and the TN of course, so communication will be key
[21:18] <valorie> nice to hear, Rick!
[21:19] <IrcsomeBot> <Rick_Timmis> {{{hugs}}} @Valoriez 🤗
[21:20] <IrcsomeBot> <ahoneybun> We need a roadmap with those goals setup.
[22:37] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} to Rick
[22:37] <valorie> ahoneybun, how about floating a draft to the ML?
[22:39] <ahoneybun[m]> I believe I did that but didn't get any replies.