[00:24] <Heort> How to install amdpro drivers ?
[00:39] <tomreyn> !amd | Heort
[00:40] <tomreyn> i.e. you'd been on your own there, need to check with AMD
[00:42] <Heort> tomreyn, thanks
[00:42] <aog> indeed jhutchins, thank you
[00:48] <Gallomimia> you never go full Windows. you went Full Windows, and made an automated update take 10 minutes during a restart. Even tho I have auto updates turned off. and now, the installed updates window has crashed and won't show me what it did to my system
[00:48] <Gallomimia> hah. popped up just as i said that
[01:05] <tomreyn> Gallomimia: /var/log/apt has logs on what was done
[01:08] <Gallomimia> thank you that's quite helpful
[01:12] <Heort> I want to get small ubuntu iso or ubuntu based system and boot it to ram and play my games.On reboot everything would be errased. What can you suggest ?
[01:15] <tomreyn> Heort: why would you want that to run from ram?
[01:16] <Heort> tomreyn, when reboot everything to be errased. When i press shutdown button power off and rams clear.
[01:17] <Heort> +my ddr5 6000mhz ram loads faster than my ssd
[01:17] <tomreyn> i understand what it means to run from ram(disk). i don't understand why you'd want to do so.
[01:17] <Heort> im talking about app transfer
[01:17] <tomreyn> you'd still need to load the system from some storage first of all
[01:18] <Heort> no im talking to load entire system to ram
[01:18] <tomreyn> i understood so much
[01:19] <Heort> yes i load from usb grub "toram" parameter begin to coppying to ram memory and then boots
[01:19] <tomreyn> persistence has its benefits, though, you can update kernels, much better configure how modules are loaded (with parameters) and keep state.
[01:19] <Heort> what i need is a small system
[01:20] <Heort> yea with persistence to update the drivers 1st
[01:24] <Heort> InShort: will sacrifice the time that takes coppying. The image would be advance configurated with all modules needed and updated. And then boots use and clear. And bootloop. :)
[01:25] <tomreyn> sounds like you have a plan, nowyou just need to set it up ;)
[01:26] <Heort> the plan is already done and achieved.what i need is smaller distro size to be optimised. :)
[01:26] <Gallomimia> sounds like a worthy project
[01:35] <Bashing-om> Heort: Check this too: https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/ .
[01:40] <Heort> Bashing-om, Thank you. You are very helpfull today everywhere. :)
[05:01] <justsomeguy22> hello, anyone here good with ssh that could answer a question?
[05:03] <mybalzitch> just ask
[05:04] <justsomeguy22> is an sshkey related to the rootpassword in anyway?
[05:05] <justsomeguy22> like, if i reset the root password to a virtual machine terminal online, does that break the sshkey logon?
[05:05] <mybalzitch> no
[05:06] <justsomeguy22> ah i got it
[05:06] <justsomeguy22> i forgot what the hell i did as i set it up years ago and was confused
[05:06] <justsomeguy22> i deleted the "root" account that's what was trippingme up
[05:06] <justsomeguy22> thanks @mybalzitch
[05:07] <mybalzitch> happy hacking
[05:07] <justsomeguy22> hacking into my own server :D
[05:07] <justsomeguy22> have you tried some ointment for your balz
[05:09] <mybalzitch> its genetic
[05:10] <plt2> Question: How do you add more titles like what windows 11 supports and I am using gnome
[05:12] <justsomeguy22> @mybalzitch actually?
[05:13] <mybalzitch> no.
[05:14] <plt2> That should be a easy question to answer
[05:14] <arraybolt3> mybalzitch, justsomeguy22: Please keep the discussion family friendly, as per the IRC Guidelines.
[05:14] <arraybolt3> plt2: Titles?
[05:15] <plt2> Windows 11 supports
[05:15] <arraybolt3> plt2: Sorry, I'm not familiar with Windows 11 and so don't know what "titles" are. If you could explain what feature you're looking for, I might be able to help you find something similar.
[05:16] <plt2> windows 11 wiki
[05:17] <arraybolt3> plt2: Do you mean taskbar labels? Sorry, I'm trying to figure out what you're describing since I have never used Windows 11 before and am somewhat unfamiliar even with older versions of Windows.
[05:17] <plt2> Linux calls it fixed windows work spaces
[05:18] <arraybolt3> OH! That.
[05:18] <arraybolt3> One moment...
[05:19] <arraybolt3> plt2: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/shell-workspaces.html.en
[05:21] <plt2> Nice. The work spaces is not showing up on the top of the screen.
[05:21] <plt2> I got it
[05:53] <snay> hola
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> plt2: there is a handy workspaces indicator in the repos too if you like, will give you workspaces to click in the right upper corner
[08:50] <cosmicrajiv> hi all i have install ubuntu 22.04.2. It seems nvidia drivers have installed already. I installed the nvidia-dkms-525 using apt-get.  have i done it correctly?
[08:53] <lotus|NUC> cosmicrajiv: sudo lshw -C video to see if drivers picked up your card
[08:55] <cosmicrajiv> lotus|NUC; is it 'sudo lshw -C'
[08:55] <cosmicrajiv> only
[09:01] <cosmicrajiv>  lotus|NUC: this is the output https://paste.debian.net/1272992/
[09:02] <cosmicrajiv> is this ok?
[09:02] <lotus|NUC> cosmicrajiv: its recognized yeah; driver=nvidia latency=0
[09:03] <cosmicrajiv> ok. thanks
[09:53] <condor> Hi! The newer HP PCs came equipped with the Wolf Security Manager and so I can't install any Linux distro. Suggestions? Many thanks.
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> condor: for windows based software you can always try if 'wine' can run it
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> !wine | condor
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> condor: on the other hand, ubuntu security model works different then windows based software/Os maybe you wouldnt need that software
[09:59] <condor> lotuspsychje, ubottu : I want to erase actual win and install a linux distro. thanks
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> condor: did you mean that wolf security is blocking installing ubuntu from bios/uefi side?
[10:00] <condor> lotuspsychje: Bingoo! That is!
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> condor: can you tell us what happens when you try to boot the ubuntu usb?
[10:04] <condor> lotuspsychje, All is well during install but when reboot i, system refuse to start.
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> condor: you will need to find some security settings inside your bios probably, did you install with secureboot enabled or disabled?
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> condor: prob this is what you got, at the bios alinea; https://www.itpro.com/security/endpoint-security/360156/the-many-layers-of-endpoint-security
[10:09] <condor> lotuspsychje, the new HP bios has an entire security platform and i don't know to set those parameters. I have the link to a pdf with that new hp bios.
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> can you share that manual plz?
[10:11] <condor> lotuspsychje, for this sharing is a protocol on this channel or only copy/paste?
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> direct link to the pdf is ok condor
[10:13] <condor> lotuspsychje, http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c06114605
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> condor: try to disable all sorts of security checks on boot, like bios sure start and firmware intrusion detection etc
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> condor: also make sure you have secureboot and fastboot disabled
[10:16] <condor> ok, i will do it
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> i havent played a bios like that before, so its gonna be searching a bit what still blocks your ubuntu usb boot
[10:19] <condor> ok, it's clear that all comes from bios, because of the clean installation i made
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> condor: i also assume so, check the values on the security settings in bios that are default ENABLED and try to switch them off one by one to see wich value its blocking
[10:21] <condor> ok, i see
[10:23] <condor> now i quit to do a new attempt :)
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> good luck condor
[10:24] <condor> thanks a lot for all
[12:31] <lexa_> LeXa2013
[12:31] <lexa_> LeXa2016
[12:35] <hiya> How to install latest OEM kernel during installation only?
[12:36] <hiya> I wish to install 22.04.2 LTS
[12:42] <ravage> the installer does not support any custom kernels
[13:01] <hiya> ravage: So I ve to install the OEM kernel post installation only?
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> didnt you ask that same question a few times already hiya
[13:15] <hiya> lotuspsychje: Yes
[13:18] <FKAShinobi> which dbus event to I need to monitor dpms events such as monitor wakeup?
[13:18] <FKAShinobi> For Ubuntu 22.04.
[13:21] <hiya> What is different between linux-oem-a,b,c?
[13:21] <hiya> difference*
[13:21] <hiya> Is it just about newer kernels?
[13:28] <vinicius> test
[13:31] <hiya> sup vinicius
[13:31] <Jeremy31> hiya: Looks like a uses 5.17, b uses 6.0 and c uses 6.1
[13:32] <hiya> Jeremy31: Yes, it does, so the naming is just about the updated version?
[13:32] <hiya> My laptop is certified by Ubuntu, so it is safe to run OEM, right? :P
[13:33] <Jeremy31> hiya: If the current kernel works, stay with it
[13:34] <hiya> Jeremy31: it is broken, on Ubuntu 22.10 - hence switching back to 22.04 [not like it is fixed over there either], but since it is fixed in Linux 6.x, and because my laptop is already Ubuntu certified
[13:34] <hiya> Hence tryin
[13:34] <hiya> And currently 22.04 is the only way to get a safer Linux 6 kernel
[13:34] <InitialCrow> Hello its here for support ? I realy need Help of tech
[13:36] <xx> InitialCrow: you can try asking in here
[13:48] <xx> InitialCrow: don't PM people, ask in the channel
[13:48] <InitialCrow68> how sory
[13:49] <xx> the same way you typed "how sory"
[13:50] <InitialCrow68> OK ty sry 1rst time here
[13:50] <hiya> InitialCrow68: Welcome! congratas
[13:51] <hiya> Congrats*
[13:58] <InitialCrow68> Suddenly, I have a problem with wayland, I currently have a config with 6 screens 4 on an nvida GTX 1070 ti graphics card and 2 on intel i9 11900k and I can't get the mutli screens with the igpu intel, the intel screens stay black, but are recognized in gnome if i switch to x org everything works fine but wayland is so much smoother the 4 screens
[13:58] <InitialCrow68> on the nvidia map work fine. I searched everywhere, tried a lot of config, which made me reinstall Ubuntu 50 times, I would like to know if it's the configuration, the drivers, or the implementation in mutter to know if since all this time , I'm racking my brains for nothing maybe one of you can help me? on windows the result is incredibly fluid,
[13:58] <InitialCrow68> on xorg a little less, and on wayland same result as on windows but without the 2 igpu screens.
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:33] <webchat59> Just looking for the right place to provide some feedback about a sluggish operation using Ubuntu desktop.
[15:38] <fab161> Hello everybody. I have a little queation regarding snaps: It it save to remove the application specific folder in /home/user/snap/ after a snap got removed via snap remove ...?
[15:41] <jhutchins> fab161: Sounds like bad packaging if it didn't clean up after itself.  Did it produce data that you might want to save so the directory isn't empty?
[15:42] <jhutchins> Some applications will leave data or config files behind in case you want them, even with dpkg.
[15:43] <esv> hey folks, I have an Ubuntu 22.04 with 2 display ports attached to the computer, every time it goes into sleep mode, the machine does not wake the monitor up. I
[15:43] <fab161> I installed the matrix client fractal. Then I noticed that it kept logging me out of my account after closing the application. So I removed it. This went fine, however, I still have the folder ~/snap/fractal on the system. I think I don't need any remaining data.
[15:46] <esv> would this be a setting of the OS or monitor, the displays woke up when I brought the display settings menu up
[16:01] <helmut> hi. would someone know where I can find details on how the /usr-merge works on recent (>= kinetic) ubuntu releases? I'm coming from Debian and was expecting usr-is-merged, but that doesn't exist. If I simply mmdebstrap kinetic, the resulting system is unmerged, which sounds wrong to me.
[16:09] <jhutchins> helmut: I'm sure there's been discussion on the lists and/or forums.  They're better for persistent info anyway.
[16:09] <helmut> I'm not trying to discuss the approach, merely understand and make it work
[16:12] <helmut> so the thing is: if I just mmdebstrap kinetic, it'll produce an unmerged rootfs and that looks wrong. If I mmdebstrap --hook-dir=/usr/share/mmdebstrap/hooks/merged-usr it fails, because it expects usr-is-merged to be a package, but it is not.
[16:13] <helmut> ah. it is available from universe
[16:16] <ravage> helmut: https://p.haxxors.com/l28av63a.txt what do you expect here?
[16:16] <helmut> ravage: that's what I expect, but not what I get
[16:17] <helmut> once I add --components main,universe mmdebstrap's maybe-merged-usr hook works (as usr-is-merged exists in universe) and then I get a proper merged-/usr
[16:18] <ravage> ok. the images generated by ubuntu all look merged as expected
[16:18] <helmut> yes, this is an issue with mmdebstrap
[16:23] <jhutchins> !info mmdebstrap
[16:26] <helmut> either way. the workaround is to always add universe and then things magically just work.
[16:36] <mybalzitch> lol
[17:07] <stephenmw> hi all. what is the command to run to start the server install from the desktop image?
[17:08] <ravage> That is what the server iso is for
[17:09] <stephenmw> sorry, I meant the cli installer
[17:09] <leftyfb> stephenmw: Ubuntu Server + Desktop GUI packages install = Ubuntu Desktop
[17:09] <stephenmw> I am SSH'd into a machine running the ubuntu desktop live and I want to install it to the disk
[17:10] <ravage> I don't think there is any cli installer
[17:10] <leftyfb> stephenmw: there is no CLI installer for the latest releases of ubuntu
[17:10] <stephenmw> really? That is unfortunate...
[17:10] <stephenmw> maybe I can install vnc...
[17:10] <leftyfb> stephenmw: also, you cannot install just Ubuntu server using the desktop live iso
[17:11] <stephenmw> I am not trying to install ubuntu server, I miscommunicated. I want to install the desktop via CLI
[17:11] <stephenmw> because that is all I have access to at the moment
[17:11] <leftyfb> stephenmw: it's a graphical installer
[17:12] <stephenmw> pretty sure you can start the CLI installer from the desktop CD at boot time
[17:12] <stephenmw> so it has to be there...
[17:12] <leftyfb> there is no CLI installer
[17:12] <stephenmw> fair enough, been awhile since I have done this. I am remotely supporting my mother who had the emmc in her cheap computer fail.
[17:13] <stephenmw> I guess I will try installing VNC or something
[17:14] <stephenmw> leftyfb, wait, the server installer exists though, right? As does a minimal install CD?
[17:14] <leftyfb> stephenmw: yes and no
[17:15] <stephenmw> why no?
[17:15] <leftyfb> stephenmw: the server installer is still graphical, no CLI installer. There is no longer a mini.iso for the latest releases
[17:15] <stephenmw> oh wow, okay, so they completely got rid of it. Any recommendation on an easy to setup VNC server? :-)
[17:26] <ravage> stephenmw: this is my current way to install Jammy via netboot/ssh. Im sure you have to change some stuff. But maybe the general idea works for you https://p.haxxors.com/j6dqr9b6.txt
[17:26] <ravage> especially the RAID stuff may not be what you want
[17:28] <jhutchins> stephenmw: I'm not clear how you're going to install an OS if the storage drive has failed.
[17:28] <stephenmw> jhutchins, the second storage drive :-)
[17:29] <stephenmw> I installed a 1TiB drive for files. It is slower, so I kept the OS on the emmc
[17:29] <jhutchins> Ah, so you're looking for a minimally intrusive install process that will preserve the data on the drive.
[17:30] <stephenmw> nah, I backed up the stuff that matters
[17:30] <stephenmw> happy to blow it all away
[17:30] <stephenmw> ... once the backup completes in about 20 minutes
[17:31] <alkisg> stephenmw: in your router, port-forward 5500 and run vncviewer -listen; in her pc via ssh, as root, run: apt install epoptes-client; export $(/usr/share/epoptes-client/get-display); x11vnc -connect your-ip
[17:31] <alkisg> This will give you GUI access to the live cd
[17:32] <stephenmw> alkisg, thanks! I was messing with tightvnc's "xstartup" trying to find a magic incantation that would give me a usable env.
[17:33] <stephenmw> ravage, I have decided not to go with debootstrap because I don't have the ability to recover if my install is broken in some way. I have done similar things many times and know that it often doesn't work the first time :-)
[17:34] <stephenmw> ravage, literally this week I did something similar to get a custom OS running on a VPS from a provider that doesn't let you easily provide an install disk.
[17:35] <stephenmw> took me 3 tries to get it booted (mostly because they didn't support uefi and I didn't realize it)
[17:35] <ravage> yes you may need a few tries
[17:48] <stephenmw> alkisg, ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /usr/share/epoptes-client/get-display
[17:48] <stephenmw> DISPLAY=
[17:48] <stephenmw> XAUTHORITY=
[17:48] <stephenmw> Could not detect or access the active display
[17:49] <alkisg> stephenmw: as root
[17:49] <alkisg> sudo -i first, then the rest
[17:49] <stephenmw> got it
[17:49] <stephenmw> perfect
[17:52] <stephenmw> alkisg, https://gist.github.com/stephenmw/f10c46ae0cf64b08bf93a062cd11f72f (localhost because I am using remote port forwarding in ssh)
[17:53] <alkisg> stephenmw: compare my command with your command
[17:53] <stephenmw> oh, address already in use
[17:53] <alkisg> export $(/usr/share/epoptes-client/get-display); x11vnc -connect your-ip
[17:53] <alkisg> Not plain /usr/share...
[17:54] <stephenmw> I did that
[17:54] <alkisg> export means the DISPLAY will go to the environment; not just to stdout
[17:54] <stephenmw> I am aware :-)
[17:55] <stephenmw> https://gist.github.com/stephenmw/f10c46ae0cf64b08bf93a062cd11f72f
[17:55] <alkisg> Try x11vnc -noshm -connect localhost:5500; if that fails try x11vnc -noshm -connect localhost without a port
[17:55] <stephenmw> updated gist
[17:55] <alkisg> Actually, start with a plain xrandr, can you see the resolutions?
[17:55] <stephenmw> yep, xrandr works
[17:56] <alkisg> OK, try a quick x11vnc -connect 81.186.20.0; that will reach me; then Ctrl+C it; just to verify it's just a problem with your port forwarding
[17:56] <stephenmw> success! x11vnc -noshm -connect localhost:5500;
[17:56] <alkisg> OK
[17:57] <alkisg> ...did you run ssh -X?
[17:57] <stephenmw> nope
[17:57] <stephenmw> I checked for that!
[17:57] <alkisg> Weird that shm was used then; but anyway you got your vnc :)
[17:58] <stephenmw> yeah, it showed me gdm. I logged in then it crashed and now it won't start again XD
[17:58] <alkisg> Do a second export getdisplay
[17:59] <alkisg> Because XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY were changed due to the login
[17:59] <stephenmw> got it! thanks
[17:59] <stephenmw> alkisg, you rock! thank you
[17:59] <alkisg> Cheers :)
[18:09] <ravage> saved those commands too
[18:09] <ravage> im sure i will need them one day
[18:10] <stephenmw> ravage, may want to also remember ssh -R 5500:localhost:5500 user@host :-)
[18:11] <ravage> i know my way around ssh port forwarding. the client and get-display script is nice
[18:11] <alkisg> Port-forwarding 5500 in the "technician" router is much faster; you just tell people `x11vnc -connect your-ip`, no ssh / get-display etc involved
[18:12] <stephenmw> um, what about encryption?
[18:13] <alkisg> For a live cd installation? Eh :)
[18:13]  * stephenmw shrugs
[18:14] <alkisg> There's also /usr/share/epoptes-client/share-terminal your-ip, that one gives a secure shell without any port forwarding at the remote side
[18:14] <stephenmw> I mean in the future when I am providing support to my mother :-)
[18:15] <alkisg> Btw your mother has a dyndns + a port forwarding for ssh?
[18:16] <stephenmw> nope... I used chrome remote desktop to setup an ssh port forward and google search "what is my ip"
[18:16] <stephenmw> maybe her router supports dyndns...
[18:17] <alkisg> Chrome remote desktop... doesn't that mean you already had access to her desktop?
[18:17] <stephenmw> also used chrome remote desktop to run rufus to create the installer.
[18:17] <stephenmw> different desktop :-)
[18:18] <alkisg> OK. There's also duckdns if her router doesn't support dyndns; and you can do a reverse secure connection via epoptes-client; in that case, you install dyndns or duckdns in your own pc, without doing any port forwarding to her router
[18:19] <stephenmw> crap, how do I kill the installer, it has gotten stuck when it found out sda was still mounted
[18:19] <stephenmw> won't respond to buttons
[18:20] <stephenmw> meh, if she wants help, she can google "what is my ip" and tell me :-)
[18:20] <stephenmw> and ssh forwarding already works now
[18:20] <stephenmw> this is not how I want to spend my Sunday. lol
[18:20] <alkisg> ...as long as she has a GUI,sure :)
[18:21] <stephenmw> he has a laptop and a desktop
[18:21] <stephenmw> she can figure it out
[18:21] <stephenmw> and a phone
[18:25] <stephenmw> ugh, I can't kill ubiquity
[18:27] <stephenmw> solution: logout :-)
[21:38] <spacecase_> Every time my Ubuntu server restarts I cannot connect to the internet and ping gives me a temporary failure in the name resolution error
[21:38] <spacecase_> Need to solve once and for all
[21:43] <tomreyn> spacecase_: are you configuring it using netplan? with which backend (systemd-networkd or Network Manager)?
[21:43] <spacecase_> netplan
[21:44] <tomreyn> so since you know this, you should be able to provide some more information, too?
[21:44] <spacecase_> there's no nameserver listed in the netplan config
[21:44] <spacecase_> and no not really
[21:45] <spacecase_> netplan is garbage to me, don't know anything about it. ubuntu is the only thing that uses it that I've touched
[21:45] <tomreyn> i guess i can't help the. good luck.
[21:45] <spacecase_> wow thanks
[21:46] <tomreyn> i mean you can just uninstall netplan and use systemd-networkd directly
[21:47] <tomreyn> but if you have no nameservers configured and none are retrieved via dhcp then resolving won't work out
[21:47] <spacecase_> trying to add nameservers to the config now, about to test
[21:47] <spacecase_> ok that worked, sorry for being a bit of a dick
[21:48] <spacecase_> been very frustrating for me, thought I had it fixed... rebooted after 68 days of uptime, then hit with the same problem again
[21:49] <leftyfb> there's nothing wrong with netplan
[21:49] <leftyfb> spacecase_: is you interface set to static or DHCP?
[21:49] <spacecase_> static
[21:49] <leftyfb> ok, then specify a nameserver
[21:49] <leftyfb> problem solved
[21:49] <spacecase_> that's what I've done :)
[21:50] <leftyfb> pastebin your netplan
[21:50] <spacecase_> was on 16.04 for the longest time, then upgraded and things have changed under the hood
[21:50] <leftyfb> pastebin your netplan
[21:51] <spacecase_> https://pastebin.com/gBwhkTmV
[21:51] <leftyfb> spacecase_: what happens when you run:  sudo netplan apply ?
[21:52] <spacecase_> it started working after adding the nameservers and then running netplan apply
[21:52] <leftyfb> ok, then everything is fine
[21:52] <spacecase_> & now that i have nameservers in the config, it should be fine after reboot yes?
[21:52] <leftyfb> reboot and see
[21:54] <spacecase_> fingers crossed
[21:57] <spacecase_> did not work
[21:59] <spacecase_> works after running netplan apply tho
[21:59] <spacecase_> just not on its own after boot
[21:59] <leftyfb> spacecase_: ls -l /etc/netplan/
[21:59] <leftyfb> what do you have in there?
[21:59] <spacecase_> just that one config
[22:00] <leftyfb> spacecase_: ok, reboot again and do not run netplan apply so we can troubleshoot
[22:01] <spacecase_> that yaml wouldn't need execute privileges would it?
[22:01] <leftyfb> no
[22:02] <spacecase_> starting back up... takes a good minute
[22:04] <spacecase_> alright, lets troubleshoot
[22:05] <leftyfb> spacecase_: ip -c a   # pastebin if you can, screenshot if you can't
[22:07] <leftyfb> spacecase_: is this a fresh install of ubuntu or did you upgrade it? Have you messed with any resolver like systemd-resolved or resolvconf or bind?
[22:07] <spacecase_> its upgraded
[22:08] <spacecase_> resolvcon.service is enabled as is systemd-resolved
[22:08] <leftyfb> spacecase_: sudo apt remove --purge ifupdown
[22:09] <spacecase_> https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/aUvq56wmyq1d
[22:09] <leftyfb> spacecase_: sudo apt remove --purge ifupdown resolvconf
[22:09] <leftyfb> why are there 2 ip's for eno1?
[22:10] <spacecase_> ifupdown not installed but resolvconf is
[22:10] <leftyfb> remove/purge it
[22:10] <leftyfb> why are there 2 ip's for eno1?
[22:10] <spacecase_> no idea, probably related to the issue
[22:10] <spacecase_> I am running adguard but I don't think that would do that
[22:10] <leftyfb> are you sure you only have 1 file in /etc/netplan/ ?
[22:10] <spacecase_> positive
[22:11] <leftyfb> adguard could be the cause of the DNS issues
[22:11] <spacecase_> reboot?
[22:12] <leftyfb> sure, though I am not confident the issue is resolved
[22:12] <spacecase_> if you've got more ideas we can run through those, it just recommended reboot after uninstalling
[22:14] <leftyfb> I don't. And actually I have to step away
[22:14] <spacecase_> ok, thanks for your help
[22:16] <spacecase_> ok, thanks for your help
[22:20] <spacecase_> about to just write a systemd service to run netplan apply on boot
[22:24] <GrandPa-G> I am trying to reduce the size of my sd (raspberry) card. gparted doesn't allow me to shrink the partition (unless I am doing it wrong), yet there is a lot of free space. Is it possible?
[22:25] <matsaman> GrandPa-G: reduce? Why?
[22:25] <spacecase_> you're not booted from that partition when you try to do it are you?
[22:25] <GrandPa-G> matsaman, I want to be able to save the image to a file and send to someone.
[22:26] <spacecase_> you want to make a sparse image then
[22:26] <GrandPa-G> spacecase_, I am, I assume I need to mount it somewhere else and then try, correct?
[22:26] <Jeremy31> GrandPa-G: Gparted won't allow you to change the size of a mounted partition, you can do it from a Live ISO on USB
[22:27] <spacecase_> ha just "fixed" my issue
[22:27] <spacecase_> we'll file that under the category of "it's not dumb if it works"
[22:28] <matsaman> GrandPa-G: if you take an ordinary image and then compress it with an ordinary file archive compressor, that will make it smaller
[22:28] <matsaman> especially if the free space is all zeros
[22:28] <GrandPa-G> matsaman, yes, but for a 14gb sd card, it is still about 2.5gb
[22:28] <matsaman> but me? I would archive the filesystem while unmounted, and backup the partition table and boot sector stuff and send all that
[22:29] <matsaman> GrandPa-G: okay but you probably won't get it much lower than 2.5GB without extreme complexity and effort
[22:29] <spacecase_> https://www.baeldung.com/linux/clone-space-in-use-from-disk
[22:29] <matsaman> if you wanted to target a future sdcard that will be smaller than 14gb, that's another matter
[22:29] <spacecase_> sparse method is what I'd recommend
[22:29] <GrandPa-G> matsaman, that is why I want to resize it down to about 4-6gb.
[22:30] <spacecase_> compressed file method is what GrandPa-G is recommending.  either is fine
[22:30] <matsaman> GrandPa-G: well, what Jeremy31 said is the simplest way, from unmounted, resize it
[22:30] <GrandPa-G> matsaman, thanks to all, I will give it a try.
[22:31] <matsaman> GrandPa-G: resizing isn't 100.00% safe, so backup important stuff
[22:31] <matsaman> it's more like 90% safe
[22:32] <GrandPa-G> matsaman, I was just not careful when I created it. I usually start with a few gb, get running, then expand as desired. I just forgot this time.
[22:32] <spacecase_> you could also rsync to a smaller partition
[22:34] <matsaman> GrandPa-G: it's super straightforward to shrink down from a live system, don't sweat it
[22:43] <qxt> Just downloaded Ubuntu server LTS. Wondering where the gpg signing keys for verification are? Also there is normally a signed file with hashes. Can't find any of that.
[22:44] <qxt> My Q. How is Ubuntu verified. Are these reproducible builds or something?
[22:44] <ravage> qxt: verification of what?
[22:44] <ravage> there are checksums of the iso file
[22:45] <ravage> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/how-to-verify-ubuntu#1-overview
[22:45] <qxt> yes I see the sha256 hash but I don't see that they are signed
[22:46] <qxt> normally you doing something like gpg --verify ubuntu_hashes.sig for something along that line
[22:47] <qxt> I normally check the WoT of signatures on the key also.
[22:48] <jhutchins> qxt: What distribution do you normally use?
[22:48] <qxt> After 15 years on Debian I thought I would give Ubuntu a spin.
[22:48] <qxt> Need to toss up a kvm server
[22:49] <jhutchins> qxt: I don't think Debian signs the isos either.
[22:49] <jhutchins> Checksum verifies that it matches the original build.  Signing would be redundant.
[22:50] <qxt> We did sign them. I know I was a DD for a few years =) By the way I recognize your handle from years back.
[22:50] <ravage> it really all is in the link above. including gpg
[22:50] <jhutchins> Been the same nick for a while now.
[22:51] <qxt> I saw it years ago. I left Ubuntu desktop when there was a beef with Gnome changing to something I did not like. Was a long time ago
[22:51] <qxt> btw I like it now =)
[22:52] <Jeremy31> qxt: Unity?
[22:53] <ravage> is there anything else we can help you with? this is going OT for this channel slowly. there is #ubuntu-discuss if you just want to chat about Ubuntu
[22:53] <qxt> Was before then. Gnome radically changed format
[22:54] <qxt> Yes. I just want to know if there is a way to verify the hashes with a gpg key in ubuntu.
[22:54] <ravage> see link above
[22:54] <qxt> that is just a hash sum on a site?
[22:54] <ravage> no
[22:55] <qxt> oh, Ill look again. sry
[23:07] <qxt> Thanks. This is what I was looking for. pg --keyid-format long --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 0x46181433FBB75451 0xD94AA3F0EFE21092
[23:09] <tomreyn> hoefully this DSA-1 key is no longer in use
[23:11] <qxt> jhutchins IIRC, I probably don't, you were an admin on freenode? Like 10 years ago... maybe more?
[23:12] <jhutchins> I don't think I've been an IRC admin.  I ran a FIDONet node and moderated some of the national echos.
[23:14] <qxt> Yeah something like that. Was a long long time ago. Anyway I gotta get back to work. Thanks. Sorry if I sounded a bit impatient.
[23:14] <jhutchins> qxt: Glad you found what you need.