BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:10 |
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mmikowski | RikMills[m] Eickmeyer: FYI, night color + intel + steam == flicker fest | 21:24 |
mmikowski | I've explicitly disabled it by default in next setting update; also document on site. | 21:25 |
mmikowski | This on 5.19 kernel. I believe it is the same on oem kernel, but since I can't uncook that egg ... :P | 21:26 |
mmikowski | 5.19 hwe vs. 5.17 oem. | 21:26 |
arraybolt3 | mmikowski: I mean, is there anything keeping you from installing the 5.17 OEM kernel stack and then uninstalling the 5.19 HWE stack on an installed system? | 21:28 |
arraybolt3 | I've documented how to switch kernel stacks before. | 21:28 |
arraybolt3 | https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-22-04-2-lts-upgrades-still-using-the-5-15-ga-kernel/4042/8?u=arraybolt3 This is for switching from HWE to GA on Lubuntu, but with some tweaks it could likely work for witching from HWE to OEM 5.17. | 21:28 |
mmikowski | Aye, sorry Aaron! I should have put you into the cc list. | 21:37 |
mmikowski | Well, no. | 21:37 |
mmikowski | But I don't think 5.17 fixes it. | 21:37 |
mmikowski | The flicker was there before. I can look a little deeper, but it appears almost all the fixes that matter to us have moved forward to 5.19 HWE. | 21:38 |
mmikowski | It is the interaction between Intel GPU and night vision. | 21:38 |
mmikowski | We already found and fixed a number of i915 flicker related settings (mostly modules), but I think what made this come up again is for some reason night color was getting set during burn-in. | 21:39 |
mmikowski | So the Steam tests got all flickery. | 21:39 |
mmikowski | Turn off the night color, and it's fixed. | 21:39 |
mmikowski | Of course, absolutely no issue with NV graphics. | 21:40 |
mmikowski | Haven't search the bug db for this yet; it's definite on X11. Haven't checked wayland yet. | 21:40 |
mmikowski | just wanted to give you a heads up. | 21:40 |
mmikowski | For RikMills[m] and Eickmeyer, I think it's very important for a default settings consideration. | 21:41 |
mmikowski | Also for documentations. +cc ahoneybun[m] | 21:41 |
Eickmeyer | mmikowski: #ubuntu-kernel | 21:42 |
mmikowski | Since Kubuntu ships with 5.19 HWE IIRC, and its probably better to start with something that doesn't have night color but works on demanding gfx out of the box. | 21:42 |
mmikowski | Hi Eickmeyer! | 21:42 |
Eickmeyer | Hi! | 21:42 |
mmikowski | Ok, I'll add that to my lurk list. | 21:43 |
Eickmeyer | Basically, if it's a kernel issue (and not hardware-specific), that's a place to talk to. | 21:43 |
Eickmeyer | I, personally, have seen no issues on any of my hardware with i915. Tells me it's specific to whatever hardware you are testing on. | 21:44 |
mmikowski | Thanks. It may be limited access. | 21:44 |
Eickmeyer | But, you haven't mentioned the hardware you're testing on. | 21:44 |
mmikowski | That's the nxg2 and xeg2 | 21:44 |
mmikowski | 1260p | 21:44 |
mmikowski | i7-1260p | 21:44 |
Eickmeyer | Ok, might be limited to that hardware then. | 21:45 |
mmikowski | It might | 21:45 |
Eickmeyer | Remember how intel gets very specific in their own MB manufacturing? | 21:45 |
Eickmeyer | Not generic at all as you'd hope. | 21:45 |
mmikowski | Just thought I'd let you know. It is definitely confirmed on there, and those are very popular CPUs. | 21:45 |
mmikowski | Oh yeah. | 21:45 |
Eickmeyer | CPUs, yes, but not MBs. | 21:45 |
mmikowski | right | 21:45 |
mmikowski | Like I said, just an fyi. We'll look at earlier revisions and see if it replicates. | 21:47 |
mmikowski | IIRC, xeg2 also had that issue. But we'll see. | 21:50 |
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