[00:26] <guiverc> xubuntu jammy.2 comes with chromium??  https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/jammy/release/xubuntu-22.04.2-desktop-amd64.manifest
[00:35] <arraybolt3> ??? OK that's odd.
[00:35] <guiverc> my jammy.2 RC QA-test install has chromium-browser deb package installed...
[00:35] <arraybolt3> Interestingly, the Snap of Chromium isn't there.
[00:36] <arraybolt3> So somehow the .deb is installed but the corresponding Snap didn't make it?
[00:36] <guiverc> snap would require internet, my QA-test install may not have had internet which could explain it (I can't recall; QA of jammy.2 was awhile ago & have multiple xubuntu's on this box too)
[00:37] <arraybolt3> :shrug: I mean Firefox is a Snap too and it's installed by default even without Internet access.
[00:37] <arraybolt3> Unsure how one would manage to seed the Chromium .deb and not the snap though.
[00:37] <guiverc> but the firefox snap IS ON THE ISO, chromium ain't!
[00:38] <guiverc> https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/seeds/xubuntu.jammy/desktop
[00:39] <guiverc> reason for this interest is askubu question - https://askubuntu.com/questions/1458299/chromium-automatically-installed-in-xubuntu-22-04-lts
[00:39] <arraybolt3> Ah, right, I see what you mean.
[00:46] <guiverc> thanks arraybolt3 
[00:48] <arraybolt3> I'm wget'ing the ISO now to see if I can reproduce the issue with Chromium showing up while Internet access is provided.
[00:49]  * guiverc is rebooting & selecting another install on this box.. but being a sony ultracrap with no internet, I won't have had wifi/internet unless testcase mandated it...  (being lazy at heart)
[00:50] <guiverc> same chromium-browser deb installed here too, no snap package for it though
[00:52]  * guiverc tried another install (auto-resize type most probably); nope have ubuntu-mate now but not installed there...
[00:56]  * guiverc doesn't note it on lunar manifest
[01:21] <arraybolt3> guiverc: Just did a test installation with Internet access that I upgraded after install. I do *not* see Chromium present.
[01:21] <arraybolt3> However, this was an upgrade from Focal right? I wonder what happens if I do that.
[01:22] <guiverc> i was asking about jammy(.2)
[01:22] <arraybolt3> Hmm. I'm guessing something managed to rope in chromium-browser and if it was installed on a system afresh, then it would happen.
[01:22] <arraybolt3> Yeah, this was a new install of jammy.2 I just did.
[01:22] <arraybolt3> But I'm thinking jammy.1 probably didn't come with Chromium and so when whatever happened to pull it in happened, that would install it.
[01:23] <guiverc> user on askubu said a normal upgrade caused it to be installed (ie. depends) which could have also made it appear on manifest (why it wasn't in seed of jammy.2)
[01:23] <guiverc> nah I suspect it's recent, but didn't explore back to jammy.1
[01:24] <arraybolt3> I see that libreoffice-help-* has a Suggests on chromium-browser? Maybe something got tangled to make that cause a problem, I dunno.
[01:27] <guiverc> yeah i wondered that too, but didn't see any 'smoking-gun'
[01:28] <guiverc> i see `chromium-browser        1:85.0.4183.83-0ubuntu2` on manifest of 2022-08-09 so not that recent...
[01:29] <guiverc> also exists on manifest of 2022-04-19
[01:30] <guiverc> (those being jammy.1 & jammy probably.. I don't rename just keeping RCs)
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