[00:00] <valorie> and maybe find out more about him if the county courthouse is open
[01:20] <ahoneybun[m]> You're welcome to visit anyway. 
[13:53] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:29] <RikMills> santa_: how is 5.104.0 looking?
[19:49] <mmikowski> arraybolt3[m]: Some key bindings have changed in 5.27, so quick hint widget will need to get updated.
[20:06] <mmikowski> RikMills: We completed another round of 5.27 testing. The only sticking point is theme handling is buggy, worse than before. Almost everything else is improved.
[21:14] <santa_> hi everyone
[21:14] <santa_> RikMills: it would be ready to upload to archive if it's ok with the release cycle
[21:15] <santa_> not related to latest fw: since plasma .2 release I'm getting a black wallpaper in my VMs
[21:16] <santa_> but I bet it's not going to be reproducible in bare metal
 "RikMills: it would be ready to..." <- Ok, I will do a FFe bug
[21:26] <RikMills[m]> Thanks 
[21:27] <santa_> thank you as well
[21:28] <santa_> given that this is going to be uploaded I will prepare backports for kinetic as well
[21:58] <mmikowski> santa_ We too are seeing black wallpaper.
[21:59] <mmikowski> Now on two VMs and 4 hardware platforms (Intel i915, Nvidia)
[22:00] <mmikowski> The bottom line is the theme engine is buggy. Switching themes is incomplete; adding a user also is broken some times, with the initial theme being applied only partially.
[22:02] <mmikowski> Way to reproduce: Go to System Settings > Appearance > Global Theme. Switch a theme. The breakage occurs with backgrounds not being set, or layouts not being set, or plasma crashing. 
[22:02] <mmikowski> System settings used to crash, but that failure mode has seemed to have disappeared since 5.27.1.
[22:03] <mmikowski> Also, add a user and the default theme is not guaranteed to be properly applied; the layout widgets may not be there, or the wallpaper is black, or both.
[22:04] <mmikowski> santa_ I will be sending out a report. But if you want to run with 5.27.2 or later, it's such a good upgrade in so many other ways, I think it still is good for users.
[22:04] <mmikowski> (in backports of course). 
[22:04] <mmikowski> This is just my opinion and suggestion for your and Rik's consideration.
[22:05] <mmikowski> Again, we reports I will send to Rik and Nate and anyone else that wants it emailed to them.
[22:05] <mmikowski> but later; I gotta go to a family commitment right now :)
[22:12] <santa_> thanks a lot for the info, I will try to dig into it if I have time
[23:54] <mmikowski> santa_ I was referring to behavior in 22.04 LTS, ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental to be clear. I realized we might have been speaking a little bit at cross purposes there :)