[16:07] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: Thats an interesting solution...
[16:08] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Yeah, it'll work, and it's easy.
[16:09] <Eickmeyer> Just utilizes the postinst/prerm scripting I put in ubuntustudio-pipewire-config.
[16:11] <Eickmeyer> Also guarantees the services are taken care of.
[16:12] <OvenWerks> That was my thought as well
[16:13] <Eickmeyer> What inspired me is that Ubuntu Desktop decided to install pipewire-audio which is the metapackage created upstream in Debian, which installs pipewire-alsa which conflicts with pulseaudio. With that, it means studio-controls is useless *unless* a meta like this gets installed.
[16:14] <OvenWerks> I need to set up development on my LT. If/when I can get PW to bridge to Jack, PA can fade into history
[16:15] <Eickmeyer> Yep, that would be so nice.
[16:17] <OvenWerks> If push comes to shove, Making something like zitta-ajbridge that hits a PW pseudo ALSA device may be the way to go.
[16:18] <OvenWerks> but PW is supposed to be able to bridge already, I have just not heard or read of anyone actually doing it.
[16:26] <OvenWerks> Got myself a new guitar amp... 100watts, $56CAD, 3x4x1in.
[16:27] <Eickmeyer> Oooo! Nice!
[16:27] <Eickmeyer> Decent deal too!
[16:28] <OvenWerks> (Its actually supposed to be a sub woofer amp, but it has a full range switch and my 12in speaker limits the high end anyway
[16:28] <Eickmeyer> I've accidentally thrown full-range through subs before in the middle of events. Not pretty. Mostly during system discovery.
[16:29] <OvenWerks> I'm feeding a cabinet emulator into it that acts as a preamp.
[16:31] <OvenWerks> I have found that using a 12 inch speaker makes a big difference to the sound.
[16:31] <Eickmeyer> It does.
[16:32] <Eickmeyer> I've even used a single input, taken that into two different amp emulators and tweaked each one to have a slightly different sound to give it a stereo effect. It's really cool.
[16:33] <Eickmeyer> Oh! For the Ardour export issue, a simple workaround is to switch it from using Jack to ALSA for exporting if Pipewire is the audio engine.
[17:28] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: Yes That works. Except... if the person is using a jack application such as rosegarden, hydrogen, etc. as part of their work chain.
[17:29] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: I'm talking about if it's already recorded and processed.
[17:29] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer:  It is possible to run the export in RT as well.
[17:29] <Eickmeyer> Freewheel is supported now though?
[17:30] <OvenWerks> there are a number of people who run hydrogen as jack master
[17:31] <OvenWerks> free wheel is suposed to be supported, even with the version I use but Ardour still freezes... seems to freeze the whole audio chain.
[17:35] <Eickmeyer> Well, using the metapackage should switch our audio stack back to the previous non-pipewire behavior.
[17:36] <Eickmeyer> Also, 23.04 will have Wayland installed, but not selected by default.
[17:38] <OvenWerks> I don't think wayland will be a problem. I have been using it with 22.10 for a while. The only problem I have had is everything is so small be default
[17:38] <OvenWerks> It is probably in setup somewhere.... but I use ctl/+ a lot
[18:14] <Eickmeyer> The display scaling in Plasma 5.27 is much, much better.