[16:07] Eickmeyer[m]: Thats an interesting solution... [16:08] OvenWerks: Yeah, it'll work, and it's easy. [16:09] Just utilizes the postinst/prerm scripting I put in ubuntustudio-pipewire-config. [16:11] Also guarantees the services are taken care of. [16:12] That was my thought as well [16:13] What inspired me is that Ubuntu Desktop decided to install pipewire-audio which is the metapackage created upstream in Debian, which installs pipewire-alsa which conflicts with pulseaudio. With that, it means studio-controls is useless *unless* a meta like this gets installed. [16:14] I need to set up development on my LT. If/when I can get PW to bridge to Jack, PA can fade into history [16:15] Yep, that would be so nice. [16:17] If push comes to shove, Making something like zitta-ajbridge that hits a PW pseudo ALSA device may be the way to go. [16:18] but PW is supposed to be able to bridge already, I have just not heard or read of anyone actually doing it. [16:26] Got myself a new guitar amp... 100watts, $56CAD, 3x4x1in. [16:27] Oooo! Nice! [16:27] Decent deal too! [16:28] (Its actually supposed to be a sub woofer amp, but it has a full range switch and my 12in speaker limits the high end anyway [16:28] I've accidentally thrown full-range through subs before in the middle of events. Not pretty. Mostly during system discovery. [16:29] I'm feeding a cabinet emulator into it that acts as a preamp. [16:31] I have found that using a 12 inch speaker makes a big difference to the sound. [16:31] It does. [16:32] I've even used a single input, taken that into two different amp emulators and tweaked each one to have a slightly different sound to give it a stereo effect. It's really cool. [16:33] Oh! For the Ardour export issue, a simple workaround is to switch it from using Jack to ALSA for exporting if Pipewire is the audio engine. [17:28] Eickmeyer: Yes That works. Except... if the person is using a jack application such as rosegarden, hydrogen, etc. as part of their work chain. [17:29] OvenWerks: I'm talking about if it's already recorded and processed. [17:29] Eickmeyer: It is possible to run the export in RT as well. [17:29] Freewheel is supported now though? [17:30] there are a number of people who run hydrogen as jack master [17:31] free wheel is suposed to be supported, even with the version I use but Ardour still freezes... seems to freeze the whole audio chain. [17:35] Well, using the metapackage should switch our audio stack back to the previous non-pipewire behavior. [17:36] Also, 23.04 will have Wayland installed, but not selected by default. [17:38] I don't think wayland will be a problem. I have been using it with 22.10 for a while. The only problem I have had is everything is so small be default [17:38] It is probably in setup somewhere.... but I use ctl/+ a lot [18:14] The display scaling in Plasma 5.27 is much, much better.