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| cpaelzer | hello | 15:30 |
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| slyon | hello o/ | 15:30 |
| didrocks | hey | 15:30 |
| dviererbe | Hello o/ | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 15:31 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 15:31:06 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 15:31 |
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| cpaelzer | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage eslerm | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | we are long term in FF, so hopefully this section is easy ... | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:31 |
| eslerm | hi all o/ | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | all that was open last week now seems to have MIR bugs | 15:32 |
| slyon | licensecheck -> libstring-license-perl looks ready for promotion | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | which we will see in the next stage | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | like tracefs and traceevent | 15:32 |
| didrocks | slyon: did you see that it’s waiting on some feedback though? | 15:32 |
| didrocks | (about what is latest release) | 15:32 |
| slyon | didrocks: feedback was given | 15:32 |
| slyon | (a few minutes ago) | 15:32 |
| didrocks | oh, didn’t get the memo yet :p | 15:32 |
| slyon | thanks for your review! | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | reading it, yes this should be ready | 15:33 |
| joalif | o/ | 15:33 |
| didrocks | yw, sounds straighforward enough! | 15:33 |
| slyon | I'll leave the status change to didrocks, if he's happy with the feedback given | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | I've done it | 15:33 |
| slyon | ack, thx | 15:33 |
| sarnold | good morning | 15:33 |
| didrocks | (update done) | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | hehe two updates are better than none | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | let us agree who of us didrocks or I should promote it later ? | 15:34 |
| didrocks | @cpaelzer: I will let you the honor, you were faster than me commenting :) | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | hehe | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | ok with me | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:34 |
| slyon | foundations got one into the pipeline (by dviererbe) | 15:35 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro: aren't 2008799 and 2009715 reeady as well to be reviewed ? | 15:35 |
| cpaelzer | ok, right now we are looking for a reviewer on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inetutils/+bug/2008789 | 15:36 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2008789 in inetutils (Ubuntu) "[MIR] inetutils" [Undecided, New] | 15:36 | |
| slyon | autopkgtests are still failing in Ubuntu (no Debian) but we're actively working on fixing that. and we feel like MIR/sec review should already be started in parallel, as wee need some decision by final freeze | 15:36 |
| slyon | this is kind of a special case due to a removal from debian and the see change already happened in Ubuntu | 15:36 |
| cpaelzer | Which can't be me (PTO juhuu) nor slyon (reported it) | 15:36 |
| cpaelzer | so of the remaining people joalif or didrocks - would either of you ok to do a review | 15:36 |
| joalif | i can do it | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | to be clear, this isn't all of inetutils, just athe subset that give telnet I think | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | thanks joalif | 15:37 |
| slyon | also we're looking to promote only the inetutils-telnet binary package and keep the rest of src:inetutils in universe, as suggested by sarnold | 15:37 |
| dviererbe | Thank you joalif | 15:37 |
| slyon | thanks! | 15:37 |
| joalif | :) | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | I might have two more in a bit once kanashiro confirms they are actually ready for review already | 15:38 |
| kanashiro[m] | cpaelzer: they are ready | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | thanks kanashiro[m] | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | I thought so | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | fixing the status | 15:38 |
| slyon | I can take one | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtraceevent/+bug/2009715 | 15:39 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2009715 in libtraceevent (Ubuntu) "[MIR] Promote libtraceevent as a dependency of libtracefs" [Undecided, New] | 15:39 | |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtracefs/+bug/2008799 | 15:39 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2008799 in libtracefs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libtracefs" [Undecided, New] | 15:39 | |
| cpaelzer | Those two are up for grabs | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: + didrocks: one each? | 15:39 |
| didrocks | soudns like a plan | 15:39 |
| didrocks | sounds* | 15:39 |
| slyon | yes | 15:39 |
| slyon | didrocks: pick yours | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | assigned | 15:39 |
| slyon | I'll take the leftover :) | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | I pick - hehehe | 15:39 |
| didrocks | :p | 15:40 |
| slyon | fine as well :) | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | ok, next section | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | and there will be work for me later (I know what is coming) | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | so it will be a fair share | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | two updated 7 days ago | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | everything else is older | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | one will be fixed in Debian sooner or later - fine | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | and one we assigned to oepnstack | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | no action for us here | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | Internal link | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | from our teams POV @sarnold how does kea go on? | 15:42 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: kea is not yet started | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: can I do anything to get it started? | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | this is a 23.04 item after all | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | so my anxiety scales by the lack of days for the rest of this release :-) | 15:43 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: alas no, 360s and interviews are things I must do myself :) | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | I can do your 360 rating me :-P | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | but ok, I understand | 15:43 |
| sarnold | :D | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | if nothing but 360 and interviews blocks you I hope this will be started soon | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | is that hope in vain? | 15:44 |
| sarnold | it should indeed start this week, probably tomorrow, but we shall see what the calendar brings | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | I'm asking you to escalate it in case something (in your calendar) tries to block you - ok? | 15:45 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: yes, sounds good | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | anything else in here that is of concern to one of you? | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | athos: ^^ FYI on isc-kea review hopefully starting super-soon | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | I guess it is time for AOB | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 15:46 |
| didrocks | nothing for me | 15:46 |
| sarnold | none here | 15:46 |
| joalif | nothing | 15:46 |
| eslerm | same | 15:46 |
| slyon | nothing | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | The MIR process around https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcs/+bug/1953341 is completed AFAICS | 15:46 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1953341 in pcs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] make pcs the default management tool for Corosync/Pacemaker clusters" [Undecided, In Progress] | 15:46 | |
| cpaelzer | that means 16 cases to recheck if really all is in place | 15:46 |
| sarnold | \o/ | 15:46 |
| eslerm | :D | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | and then promotions accordingly - once the seed changes landed | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro[m]: will do the seed change, then I'll do the promotion | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | that is my task which I knew will be coming | 15:47 |
| sarnold | impressive, wow. it's nice to take a step back and look at the landscape of things once in a while :) | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro[m]: is that seed change already up as MR or landed but not yet processed by germinate or ... ? | 15:47 |
| kanashiro[m] | Hopefully the component-mismatch will be in place until tomorrow :) | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | ok, I'll keep the bug open and if I see it in component mismatch chack and act on them | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | give me a ping once it landed | 15:48 |
| cpaelzer | and other other business? | 15:49 |
| kanashiro[m] | I am pulling pcs to main via a pacemaker dependency | 15:49 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro[m]: ok, so it will be seen in proposed via that update | 15:49 |
| sarnold | are *all* packages brought into main via an 'installed by default' somewhere? | 15:50 |
| kanashiro[m] | waiting for the FFe approval | 15:50 |
| cpaelzer | just checked, crmsh also isn't directly in the seeds | 15:50 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro[m]: since we wanted to keep crmsh "for now" and only drop it from main in 23.10 | 15:50 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro[m]: you most likely need a seed change | 15:50 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro[m]: otherwise crmsh will auto-demote in 23.04 which is too early | 15:51 |
| kanashiro[m] | cpaelzer: ok, then I need to change my pacemaker uploading, I am demoting crmsh to Suggests | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro[m]: for pacemaker it is ok to go to a suggest | 15:51 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro[m]: but something needs to hold it in main, that should be the seed | 15:52 |
| kanashiro[m] | ok, I will add crmsh to seeds | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro[m]: and when you add it, maybe add a comment that this is just to hold it in 23.04 for now and will be dropped in early 23.10 | 15:52 |
| cpaelzer | kanashiro[m]: just add it to the supported entries, no need to suddenly auto-install it anywhere :-) | 15:52 |
| kanashiro[m] | ack | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | @sarnold you asked about installed | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | @sarnold some things are depended on by ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-sevrer, ... those will be auto-installed | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | @sarnold but others are just listed in the various supported-* entries | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | @sarnold those are in main, but not default installed | 15:53 |
| cpaelzer | @sarnold germinate picks it up, but none of the image-building or meta package processing will | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | @sarnold does that answer the question? | 15:54 |
| meetingology | cpaelzer: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last 60 seconds; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes. | 15:54 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: it does, thanks :) | 15:54 |
| sarnold | lol | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | hehe | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | sorry, muscle memory slowly converts to mattermost and now meetingology complains | 15:54 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: you did see my messages that talked about supported-* seeds right? | 15:54 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: yes | 15:55 |
| cpaelzer | hehe | 15:55 |
| cpaelzer | ok | 15:55 |
| cpaelzer | now I guess AOB is done as well | 15:55 |
| sarnold | *I* won't ignore you! | 15:55 |
| cpaelzer | thanks didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer dviererbe ! | 15:55 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 15:55 |
| sarnold | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:55:37 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-03-14-15.31.moin.txt | 15:55 |
| cpaelzer | now, can I end the meeting if he is ignoring me ... | 15:55 |
| cpaelzer | thanks sarnold | 15:55 |
| eslerm | thanks all o/ | 15:55 |
| joalif | thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 15:55 |
| slyon | thanks all! | 15:55 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 16:03 |
| * vorlon waves | 19:59 | |
| rbasak | o/ | 20:00 |
| rbasak | I'm still on leave so no progress on anything from me. I should be back properly next week. But I'm around now if anyone needs anything from me. | 20:00 |
| seb128 | hey | 20:01 |
| vorlon | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda not updated but I checked the logs to confirm rbasak chaired last time so it's to me now | 20:03 |
| vorlon | #startmeeting Technical Board | 20:03 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 20:03:42 UTC. The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 20:03 |
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| vorlon | #topic Action review | 20:03 |
| vorlon | ACTION: amurray to propose amended Ubuntu Backporters Team Charter | 20:03 |
| vorlon | amurray: are you there? | 20:04 |
| vorlon | carrying over | 20:04 |
| vorlon | ACTION: seb128 to help draft an exception to the "must build on all architectures" requirement for snaps | 20:04 |
| vorlon | seb128: any update? | 20:04 |
| seb128 | still no progress there sorry | 20:04 |
| vorlon | ack, carrying over | 20:04 |
| vorlon | ACTION: seb128/amurray/sil200 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage | 20:04 |
| seb128 | same... | 20:04 |
| vorlon | ACTION: rbasak to raise any on-going blockers with third-party seeded snap security policy | 20:05 |
| vorlon | rbasak: ? | 20:05 |
| vorlon | you said last week that this is waiting on you being back from leave, so I'll just assume carryover | 20:05 |
| vorlon | ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which x-nox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step | 20:05 |
| vorlon | no sil2100 | 20:05 |
| vorlon | ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 20:05 |
| rbasak | Carry please | 20:06 |
| vorlon | ack | 20:06 |
| vorlon | ACTION: rbasak to create initial bugs against the LP techboard project to track third party repo and DMB expiration policies | 20:06 |
| rbasak | Carry please | 20:07 |
| vorlon | ack | 20:07 |
| vorlon | meanwhile I've updated the wiki page to at least point to https://bugs.launchpad.net/techboard | 20:08 |
| vorlon | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed | 20:08 |
| vorlon | #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2023-March/thread.html | 20:08 |
| vorlon | there's some back-and-forth regarding the Backporters Team charter; hasn't closed out but there's at least discussion | 20:09 |
| vorlon | oh and I should've done the apologies as a topic, and also remembered that amurray said he wouldn't be here | 20:09 |
| vorlon | so as amurray had the action to work through that I don't think there's anything else on the mailing list requiring action from folks present | 20:10 |
| vorlon | #topic Apologies (out of order :P) | 20:10 |
| vorlon | amurray sent his apologies to the list | 20:10 |
| vorlon | #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs | 20:10 |
| vorlon | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard | 20:10 |
| vorlon | empty | 20:10 |
| vorlon | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/techboard | 20:11 |
| vorlon | empty | 20:11 |
| vorlon | #topic Select a chair for the next meeting | 20:11 |
| vorlon | standard rotation has it as sil2100 chair, amurray backup | 20:11 |
| vorlon | #info sil2100 chair, amurray backup | 20:11 |
| vorlon | #topic AOB | 20:11 |
| vorlon | anything to actually discuss, or is that the end of our pro forma meeting? :) | 20:11 |
| seb128 | efficient meeting :p | 20:12 |
| vorlon | maybe I should've had more mulligatawny stew | 20:12 |
| vorlon | #endmeeting | 20:12 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 20:12:53 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-03-14-20.03.moin.txt | 20:12 |
| vorlon | seb128, rbasak: thanks | 20:12 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 20:13 |
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