=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos [15:30] hello [15:30] hello o/ [15:30] hey [15:31] Hello o/ [15:31] #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status [15:31] Meeting started at 15:31:06 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [15:31] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [15:31] Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage eslerm [15:31] we are long term in FF, so hopefully this section is easy ... [15:31] #topic current component mismatches [15:31] Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams [15:31] hi all o/ [15:31] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg [15:31] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg [15:32] all that was open last week now seems to have MIR bugs [15:32] licensecheck -> libstring-license-perl looks ready for promotion [15:32] which we will see in the next stage [15:32] like tracefs and traceevent [15:32] slyon: did you see that it’s waiting on some feedback though? [15:32] (about what is latest release) [15:32] didrocks: feedback was given [15:32] (a few minutes ago) [15:32] oh, didn’t get the memo yet :p [15:33] thanks for your review! [15:33] reading it, yes this should be ready [15:33] o/ [15:33] yw, sounds straighforward enough! [15:33] I'll leave the status change to didrocks, if he's happy with the feedback given [15:33] I've done it [15:33] ack, thx [15:33] good morning [15:33] (update done) [15:34] hehe two updates are better than none [15:34] let us agree who of us didrocks or I should promote it later ? [15:34] @cpaelzer: I will let you the honor, you were faster than me commenting :) [15:34] hehe [15:34] ok with me [15:34] #topic New MIRs [15:34] Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing [15:34] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [15:35] foundations got one into the pipeline (by dviererbe) [15:35] kanashiro: aren't 2008799 and 2009715 reeady as well to be reviewed ? [15:36] ok, right now we are looking for a reviewer on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inetutils/+bug/2008789 [15:36] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2008789 in inetutils (Ubuntu) "[MIR] inetutils" [Undecided, New] [15:36] autopkgtests are still failing in Ubuntu (no Debian) but we're actively working on fixing that. and we feel like MIR/sec review should already be started in parallel, as wee need some decision by final freeze [15:36] this is kind of a special case due to a removal from debian and the see change already happened in Ubuntu [15:36] Which can't be me (PTO juhuu) nor slyon (reported it) [15:36] so of the remaining people joalif or didrocks - would either of you ok to do a review [15:37] i can do it [15:37] to be clear, this isn't all of inetutils, just athe subset that give telnet I think [15:37] thanks joalif [15:37] also we're looking to promote only the inetutils-telnet binary package and keep the rest of src:inetutils in universe, as suggested by sarnold [15:37] Thank you joalif [15:37] thanks! [15:37] :) [15:38] I might have two more in a bit once kanashiro confirms they are actually ready for review already [15:38] cpaelzer: they are ready [15:38] thanks kanashiro[m] [15:38] I thought so [15:38] fixing the status [15:39] I can take one [15:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtraceevent/+bug/2009715 [15:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2009715 in libtraceevent (Ubuntu) "[MIR] Promote libtraceevent as a dependency of libtracefs" [Undecided, New] [15:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtracefs/+bug/2008799 [15:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2008799 in libtracefs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libtracefs" [Undecided, New] [15:39] Those two are up for grabs [15:39] slyon: + didrocks: one each? [15:39] soudns like a plan [15:39] sounds* [15:39] yes [15:39] didrocks: pick yours [15:39] assigned [15:39] I'll take the leftover :) [15:39] I pick - hehehe [15:40] :p [15:40] fine as well :) [15:40] ok, next section [15:40] and there will be work for me later (I know what is coming) [15:40] so it will be a fair share [15:40] #topic Incomplete bugs / questions [15:40] Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams [15:40] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [15:41] two updated 7 days ago [15:41] everything else is older [15:41] one will be fixed in Debian sooner or later - fine [15:41] and one we assigned to oepnstack [15:41] no action for us here [15:42] #topic MIR related Security Review Queue [15:42] Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? [15:42] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [15:42] Internal link [15:42] - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect [15:42] - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much [15:42] #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 [15:42] from our teams POV @sarnold how does kea go on? [15:42] cpaelzer: kea is not yet started [15:43] sarnold: can I do anything to get it started? [15:43] this is a 23.04 item after all [15:43] so my anxiety scales by the lack of days for the rest of this release :-) [15:43] cpaelzer: alas no, 360s and interviews are things I must do myself :) [15:43] I can do your 360 rating me :-P [15:43] but ok, I understand [15:43] :D [15:44] if nothing but 360 and interviews blocks you I hope this will be started soon [15:44] is that hope in vain? [15:44] it should indeed start this week, probably tomorrow, but we shall see what the calendar brings [15:45] I'm asking you to escalate it in case something (in your calendar) tries to block you - ok? [15:45] cpaelzer: yes, sounds good [15:45] anything else in here that is of concern to one of you? [15:46] athos: ^^ FYI on isc-kea review hopefully starting super-soon [15:46] I guess it is time for AOB [15:46] #topic Any other business? [15:46] nothing for me [15:46] none here [15:46] nothing [15:46] same [15:46] nothing [15:46] The MIR process around https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcs/+bug/1953341 is completed AFAICS [15:46] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1953341 in pcs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] make pcs the default management tool for Corosync/Pacemaker clusters" [Undecided, In Progress] [15:46] that means 16 cases to recheck if really all is in place [15:46] \o/ [15:46] :D [15:47] and then promotions accordingly - once the seed changes landed [15:47] kanashiro[m]: will do the seed change, then I'll do the promotion [15:47] that is my task which I knew will be coming [15:47] impressive, wow. it's nice to take a step back and look at the landscape of things once in a while :) [15:47] kanashiro[m]: is that seed change already up as MR or landed but not yet processed by germinate or ... ? [15:48] Hopefully the component-mismatch will be in place until tomorrow :) [15:48] ok, I'll keep the bug open and if I see it in component mismatch chack and act on them [15:48] give me a ping once it landed [15:49] and other other business? [15:49] I am pulling pcs to main via a pacemaker dependency [15:49] kanashiro[m]: ok, so it will be seen in proposed via that update [15:50] are *all* packages brought into main via an 'installed by default' somewhere? [15:50] waiting for the FFe approval [15:50] just checked, crmsh also isn't directly in the seeds [15:50] kanashiro[m]: since we wanted to keep crmsh "for now" and only drop it from main in 23.10 [15:50] kanashiro[m]: you most likely need a seed change [15:51] kanashiro[m]: otherwise crmsh will auto-demote in 23.04 which is too early [15:51] cpaelzer: ok, then I need to change my pacemaker uploading, I am demoting crmsh to Suggests [15:51] kanashiro[m]: for pacemaker it is ok to go to a suggest [15:52] kanashiro[m]: but something needs to hold it in main, that should be the seed [15:52] ok, I will add crmsh to seeds [15:52] kanashiro[m]: and when you add it, maybe add a comment that this is just to hold it in 23.04 for now and will be dropped in early 23.10 [15:52] kanashiro[m]: just add it to the supported entries, no need to suddenly auto-install it anywhere :-) [15:53] ack [15:53] @sarnold you asked about installed [15:53] @sarnold some things are depended on by ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-sevrer, ... those will be auto-installed [15:53] @sarnold but others are just listed in the various supported-* entries [15:53] @sarnold those are in main, but not default installed [15:54] @sarnold germinate picks it up, but none of the image-building or meta package processing will [15:54] @sarnold does that answer the question? [15:54] cpaelzer: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last 60 seconds; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes. [15:54] cpaelzer: it does, thanks :) [15:54] lol [15:54] hehe [15:54] sorry, muscle memory slowly converts to mattermost and now meetingology complains [15:54] sarnold: you did see my messages that talked about supported-* seeds right? [15:55] cpaelzer: yes [15:55] hehe [15:55] ok [15:55] now I guess AOB is done as well [15:55] *I* won't ignore you! [15:55] thanks didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer dviererbe ! [15:55] thanks cpaelzer, all :) [15:55] #endmeeting [15:55] Meeting ended at 15:55:37 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-03-14-15.31.moin.txt [15:55] now, can I end the meeting if he is ignoring me ... [15:55] thanks sarnold [15:55] thanks all o/ [15:55] thanks cpaelzer, all :) [15:55] thanks all! [16:03] thanks! [19:59] * vorlon waves [20:00] o/ [20:00] I'm still on leave so no progress on anything from me. I should be back properly next week. But I'm around now if anyone needs anything from me. [20:01] hey [20:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda not updated but I checked the logs to confirm rbasak chaired last time so it's to me now [20:03] #startmeeting Technical Board [20:03] Meeting started at 20:03:42 UTC. The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [20:03] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [20:03] #topic Action review [20:03] ACTION: amurray to propose amended Ubuntu Backporters Team Charter [20:04] amurray: are you there? [20:04] carrying over [20:04] ACTION: seb128 to help draft an exception to the "must build on all architectures" requirement for snaps [20:04] seb128: any update? [20:04] still no progress there sorry [20:04] ack, carrying over [20:04] ACTION: seb128/amurray/sil200 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage [20:04] same... [20:05] ACTION: rbasak to raise any on-going blockers with third-party seeded snap security policy [20:05] rbasak: ? [20:05] you said last week that this is waiting on you being back from leave, so I'll just assume carryover [20:05] ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which x-nox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step [20:05] no sil2100 [20:05] ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification [20:06] Carry please [20:06] ack [20:06] ACTION: rbasak to create initial bugs against the LP techboard project to track third party repo and DMB expiration policies [20:07] Carry please [20:07] ack [20:08] meanwhile I've updated the wiki page to at least point to https://bugs.launchpad.net/techboard [20:08] #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed [20:08] #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2023-March/thread.html [20:09] there's some back-and-forth regarding the Backporters Team charter; hasn't closed out but there's at least discussion [20:09] oh and I should've done the apologies as a topic, and also remembered that amurray said he wouldn't be here [20:10] so as amurray had the action to work through that I don't think there's anything else on the mailing list requiring action from folks present [20:10] #topic Apologies (out of order :P) [20:10] amurray sent his apologies to the list [20:10] #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs [20:10] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard [20:10] empty [20:11] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/techboard [20:11] empty [20:11] #topic Select a chair for the next meeting [20:11] standard rotation has it as sil2100 chair, amurray backup [20:11] #info sil2100 chair, amurray backup [20:11] #topic AOB [20:11] anything to actually discuss, or is that the end of our pro forma meeting? :) [20:12] efficient meeting :p [20:12] maybe I should've had more mulligatawny stew [20:12] #endmeeting [20:12] Meeting ended at 20:12:53 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-03-14-20.03.moin.txt [20:12] seb128, rbasak: thanks [20:13] thanks!