[15:30] <cpaelzer> hello
[15:30] <slyon> hello o/
[15:30] <didrocks> hey
[15:31] <dviererbe> Hello o/
[15:31] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[15:31] <cpaelzer> Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage eslerm
[15:31] <cpaelzer> we are long term in FF, so hopefully this section is easy ...
[15:31] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[15:31] <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[15:31] <eslerm> hi all o/
[15:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[15:31] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[15:32] <cpaelzer> all that was open last week now seems to have MIR bugs
[15:32] <slyon> licensecheck -> libstring-license-perl looks ready for promotion
[15:32] <cpaelzer> which we will see in the next stage
[15:32] <cpaelzer> like tracefs and traceevent
[15:32] <didrocks> slyon: did you see that it’s waiting on some feedback though?
[15:32] <didrocks> (about what is latest release)
[15:32] <slyon> didrocks: feedback was given
[15:32] <slyon> (a few minutes ago)
[15:32] <didrocks> oh, didn’t get the memo yet :p
[15:33] <slyon> thanks for your review!
[15:33] <cpaelzer> reading it, yes this should be ready
[15:33] <joalif> o/
[15:33] <didrocks> yw, sounds straighforward enough!
[15:33] <slyon> I'll leave the status change to didrocks, if he's happy with the feedback given
[15:33] <cpaelzer> I've done it
[15:33] <slyon> ack, thx
[15:33] <sarnold> good morning
[15:33] <didrocks> (update done)
[15:34] <cpaelzer> hehe two updates are better than none
[15:34] <cpaelzer> let us agree who of us didrocks or I should promote it later ?
[15:34] <didrocks> @cpaelzer: I will let you the honor, you were faster than me commenting :)
[15:34] <cpaelzer> hehe
[15:34] <cpaelzer> ok with me
[15:34] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[15:34] <cpaelzer> Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing
[15:34] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:35] <slyon> foundations got one into the pipeline (by dviererbe)
[15:35] <cpaelzer> kanashiro: aren't 2008799 and 2009715 reeady as well to be reviewed ?
[15:36] <cpaelzer> ok, right now we are looking for a reviewer on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inetutils/+bug/2008789
[15:36] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2008789 in inetutils (Ubuntu) "[MIR] inetutils" [Undecided, New]
[15:36] <slyon> autopkgtests are still failing in Ubuntu (no Debian) but we're actively working on fixing that. and we feel like MIR/sec review should already be started in parallel, as wee need some decision by final freeze
[15:36] <slyon> this is kind of a special case due to a removal from debian and the see change already happened in Ubuntu
[15:36] <cpaelzer> Which can't be me (PTO juhuu) nor slyon (reported it)
[15:36] <cpaelzer> so of the remaining people joalif or didrocks - would either of you ok to do a review
[15:37] <joalif> i can do it
[15:37] <cpaelzer> to be clear, this isn't all of inetutils, just athe subset that give telnet I think
[15:37] <cpaelzer> thanks joalif
[15:37] <slyon> also we're looking to promote only the inetutils-telnet binary package and keep the rest of src:inetutils in universe, as suggested by sarnold
[15:37] <dviererbe> Thank you joalif
[15:37] <slyon> thanks!
[15:37] <joalif> :)
[15:38] <cpaelzer> I might have two more in a bit once kanashiro confirms they are actually ready for review already
[15:38] <kanashiro[m]> cpaelzer: they are ready
[15:38] <cpaelzer> thanks kanashiro[m]
[15:38] <cpaelzer> I thought so
[15:38] <cpaelzer> fixing the status
[15:39] <slyon> I can take one
[15:39] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtraceevent/+bug/2009715
[15:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2009715 in libtraceevent (Ubuntu) "[MIR] Promote libtraceevent as a dependency of libtracefs" [Undecided, New]
[15:39] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libtracefs/+bug/2008799
[15:39] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2008799 in libtracefs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libtracefs" [Undecided, New]
[15:39] <cpaelzer> Those two are up for grabs
[15:39] <cpaelzer> slyon: + didrocks: one each?
[15:39] <didrocks> soudns like a plan
[15:39] <didrocks> sounds*
[15:39] <slyon> yes
[15:39] <slyon> didrocks: pick yours
[15:39] <cpaelzer> assigned
[15:39] <slyon> I'll take the leftover :)
[15:39] <cpaelzer> I pick - hehehe
[15:40] <didrocks> :p
[15:40] <slyon> fine as well :)
[15:40] <cpaelzer> ok, next section
[15:40] <cpaelzer> and there will be work for me later (I know what is coming)
[15:40] <cpaelzer> so it will be a fair share
[15:40] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[15:40] <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
[15:40] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:41] <cpaelzer> two updated 7 days ago
[15:41] <cpaelzer> everything else is older
[15:41] <cpaelzer> one will be fixed in Debian sooner or later - fine
[15:41] <cpaelzer> and one we assigned to oepnstack
[15:41] <cpaelzer> no action for us here
[15:42] <cpaelzer> #topic MIR related Security Review Queue
[15:42] <cpaelzer> Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable?
[15:42] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:42] <cpaelzer> Internal link
[15:42] <cpaelzer> - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect
[15:42] <cpaelzer> - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much
[15:42] <cpaelzer> #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594
[15:42] <cpaelzer> from our teams POV @sarnold how does kea go on?
[15:42] <sarnold> cpaelzer: kea is not yet started
[15:43] <cpaelzer> sarnold: can I do anything to get it started?
[15:43] <cpaelzer> this is a 23.04 item after all
[15:43] <cpaelzer> so my anxiety scales by the lack of days for the rest of this release :-)
[15:43] <sarnold> cpaelzer: alas no, 360s and interviews are things I must do myself :)
[15:43] <cpaelzer> I can do your 360 rating me :-P
[15:43] <cpaelzer> but ok, I understand
[15:43] <sarnold> :D
[15:44] <cpaelzer> if nothing but 360 and interviews blocks you I hope this will be started soon
[15:44] <cpaelzer> is that hope in vain?
[15:44] <sarnold> it should indeed start this week, probably tomorrow, but we shall see what the calendar brings
[15:45] <cpaelzer> I'm asking you to escalate it in case something (in your calendar) tries to block you - ok?
[15:45] <sarnold> cpaelzer: yes, sounds good
[15:45] <cpaelzer> anything else in here that is of concern to one of you?
[15:46] <cpaelzer> athos: ^^ FYI on isc-kea review hopefully starting super-soon
[15:46] <cpaelzer> I guess it is time for AOB
[15:46] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[15:46] <didrocks> nothing for me
[15:46] <sarnold> none here
[15:46] <joalif> nothing
[15:46] <eslerm> same
[15:46] <slyon> nothing
[15:46] <cpaelzer> The MIR process around https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcs/+bug/1953341 is completed AFAICS
[15:46] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1953341 in pcs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] make pcs the default management tool for Corosync/Pacemaker clusters" [Undecided, In Progress]
[15:46] <cpaelzer> that means 16 cases to recheck if really all is in place
[15:46] <sarnold> \o/
[15:46] <eslerm> :D
[15:47] <cpaelzer> and then promotions accordingly - once the seed changes landed
[15:47] <cpaelzer> kanashiro[m]: will do the seed change, then I'll do the promotion
[15:47] <cpaelzer> that is my task which I knew will be coming
[15:47] <sarnold> impressive, wow. it's nice to take a step back and look at the landscape of things once in a while :)
[15:47] <cpaelzer> kanashiro[m]: is that seed change already up as MR or landed but not yet processed by germinate or ... ?
[15:48] <kanashiro[m]> Hopefully the component-mismatch will be in place until tomorrow :)
[15:48] <cpaelzer> ok, I'll keep the bug open and if I see it in component mismatch chack and act on them
[15:48] <cpaelzer> give me a ping once it landed
[15:49] <cpaelzer> and other other business?
[15:49] <kanashiro[m]> I am pulling pcs to main via a pacemaker dependency
[15:49] <cpaelzer> kanashiro[m]: ok, so it will be seen in proposed via that update
[15:50] <sarnold> are *all* packages brought into main via an 'installed by default' somewhere?
[15:50] <kanashiro[m]> waiting for the FFe approval
[15:50] <cpaelzer> just checked, crmsh also isn't directly in the seeds
[15:50] <cpaelzer> kanashiro[m]: since we wanted to keep crmsh "for now" and only drop it from main in 23.10
[15:50] <cpaelzer> kanashiro[m]: you most likely need a seed change
[15:51] <cpaelzer> kanashiro[m]: otherwise crmsh will auto-demote in 23.04 which is too early
[15:51] <kanashiro[m]> cpaelzer: ok, then I need to change my pacemaker uploading, I am demoting crmsh to Suggests
[15:51] <cpaelzer> kanashiro[m]: for pacemaker it is ok to go to a suggest
[15:52] <cpaelzer> kanashiro[m]: but something needs to hold it in main, that should be the seed
[15:52] <kanashiro[m]> ok, I will add crmsh to seeds
[15:52] <cpaelzer> kanashiro[m]: and when you add it, maybe add a comment that this is just to hold it in 23.04 for now and will be dropped in early 23.10
[15:52] <cpaelzer> kanashiro[m]: just add it to the supported entries, no need to suddenly auto-install it anywhere :-)
[15:53] <kanashiro[m]> ack
[15:53] <cpaelzer> @sarnold you asked about installed
[15:53] <cpaelzer> @sarnold some things are depended on by ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-sevrer, ... those will be auto-installed
[15:53] <cpaelzer> @sarnold but others are just listed in the various supported-* entries
[15:53] <cpaelzer> @sarnold those are in main, but not default installed
[15:54] <cpaelzer> @sarnold germinate picks it up, but none of the image-building or meta package processing will
[15:54] <cpaelzer> @sarnold does that answer the question?
[15:54] <meetingology> cpaelzer: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last 60 seconds; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes.
[15:54] <sarnold> cpaelzer: it does, thanks :)
[15:54] <sarnold> lol
[15:54] <cpaelzer> hehe
[15:54] <cpaelzer> sorry, muscle memory slowly converts to mattermost and now meetingology complains
[15:54] <cpaelzer> sarnold: you did see my messages that talked about supported-* seeds right?
[15:55] <sarnold> cpaelzer: yes
[15:55] <cpaelzer> hehe
[15:55] <cpaelzer> ok
[15:55] <cpaelzer> now I guess AOB is done as well
[15:55] <sarnold> *I* won't ignore you!
[15:55] <cpaelzer> thanks didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer dviererbe !
[15:55] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[15:55] <sarnold> #endmeeting
[15:55] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:55:37 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-03-14-15.31.moin.txt
[15:55] <cpaelzer> now, can I end the meeting if he is ignoring me ...
[15:55] <cpaelzer> thanks sarnold
[15:55] <eslerm> thanks all o/
[15:55] <joalif> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[15:55] <slyon> thanks all!
[16:03] <didrocks> thanks!
[19:59]  * vorlon waves
[20:00] <rbasak> o/
[20:00] <rbasak> I'm still on leave so no progress on anything from me. I should be back properly next week. But I'm around now if anyone needs anything from me.
[20:01] <seb128> hey
[20:03] <vorlon> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda not updated but I checked the logs to confirm rbasak chaired last time so it's to me now
[20:03] <vorlon> #startmeeting Technical Board
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[20:03] <vorlon> #topic Action review
[20:03] <vorlon> ACTION: amurray to propose amended Ubuntu Backporters Team Charter
[20:04] <vorlon> amurray: are you there?
[20:04] <vorlon> carrying over
[20:04] <vorlon> ACTION: seb128 to help draft an exception to the "must build on all architectures" requirement for snaps
[20:04] <vorlon> seb128: any update?
[20:04] <seb128> still no progress there sorry
[20:04] <vorlon> ack, carrying over
[20:04] <vorlon> ACTION: seb128/amurray/sil200 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage
[20:04] <seb128> same...
[20:05] <vorlon> ACTION: rbasak to raise any on-going blockers with third-party seeded snap security policy
[20:05] <vorlon> rbasak: ?
[20:05] <vorlon> you said last week that this is waiting on you being back from leave, so I'll just assume carryover
[20:05] <vorlon> ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which x-nox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step
[20:05] <vorlon> no sil2100
[20:05] <vorlon> ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification
[20:06] <rbasak> Carry please
[20:06] <vorlon> ack
[20:06] <vorlon> ACTION: rbasak to create initial bugs against the LP techboard project to track third party repo and DMB expiration policies
[20:07] <rbasak> Carry please
[20:07] <vorlon> ack
[20:08] <vorlon> meanwhile I've updated the wiki page to at least point to https://bugs.launchpad.net/techboard
[20:08] <vorlon> #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed
[20:08] <vorlon> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2023-March/thread.html
[20:09] <vorlon> there's some back-and-forth regarding the Backporters Team charter; hasn't closed out but there's at least discussion
[20:09] <vorlon> oh and I should've done the apologies as a topic, and also remembered that amurray said he wouldn't be here
[20:10] <vorlon> so as amurray had the action to work through that I don't think there's anything else on the mailing list requiring action from folks present
[20:10] <vorlon> #topic Apologies (out of order :P)
[20:10] <vorlon> amurray sent his apologies to the list
[20:10] <vorlon> #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs
[20:10] <vorlon> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard
[20:10] <vorlon> empty
[20:11] <vorlon> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/techboard
[20:11] <vorlon> empty
[20:11] <vorlon> #topic Select a chair for the next meeting
[20:11] <vorlon> standard rotation has it as sil2100 chair, amurray backup
[20:11] <vorlon> #info sil2100 chair, amurray backup
[20:11] <vorlon> #topic AOB
[20:11] <vorlon> anything to actually discuss, or is that the end of our pro forma meeting? :)
[20:12] <seb128> efficient meeting :p
[20:12] <vorlon> maybe I should've had more mulligatawny stew
[20:12] <vorlon> #endmeeting
[20:12] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 20:12:53 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-03-14-20.03.moin.txt
[20:12] <vorlon> seb128, rbasak: thanks
[20:13] <seb128> thanks!