=== arraybolt3_ is now known as arraybolt3
BluesKajHi all12:30
ahoneybun[m]heyo BluesKaj 12:54
BluesKajhey ahoneybun[m]12:59
aaronprisk[m]Meta had a big booth at SCaLE this past weekend where they demonstrated some of their ML/AI tools and they all ran on Kubuntu. Kudos to you folks!13:33
mparilloAnd we have used the phabricator wiki.13:55
RikMillsaaronprisk[m]: that is very interesting. thanks!14:03
RikMillsplasma 5.27.3 and fw 5.104 is in backports for kinetic15:01
arraybolt3mmikowski: Sadly, the Plasma crashes are still happening, but I figured out what's triggering them. When I had my notifications on permanent "Do Not Disturb", they stopped. When I allowed notifications again, they started. Somehow when a notification is triggered, it's causing things to go awry.15:26
arraybolt3Anyway I'm trying some random things to see if it's a problem purely on my side - there's no way that the things I'm seeing wouldn't be noticed by almost every other user of Kubuntu were this widespread, so I'm assuming it's not widespread.15:27
mmikowskiarraybolt3: from what I have seen, RikMills (please correct me if I'm wrong) has tightened down kubuntu-ppa/experiemental so that it is representative of release intent. Of course, it could still eat your cat, but that's why ppa-purge was invented ;) One weird effect he resolved last week was to add i386 libs that are required by Steam, and that17:02
mmikowskiapparently broke the upgrade. Since then, upgrade have been dreamy-good.17:02
RikMillsyes, I rebuilt it all for all the architectures that the PPAs normally build. means that should we decide to ship it somewhere, it can be copied straight into the official PPAs17:05
RikMillsfor inital testing I had only build for amd64 to make things quick and easy17:05
mmikowskiRikMills and arraybolt3: also, not seeing plasma-shell crashes here. Theme switching is still not-so-good, but usually just doesn't full work (85%) or crashes system settings (5%), and then plasma-shell (5%). Those are just estimates based on my experience and that of other testers.17:06
arraybolt3Very odd. I wonder if maybe it's because Element makes very frequent notification popups?17:06
arraybolt3(I'm using Element as a Matrix chat client.)17:06
mmikowskibtw, we are running 5.27 on 6 machines currently, and almost all feedback has been "please upgrade this".17:07
mmikowskiRikMills: Thank you, that's great to hear.17:07
mmikowskiarraybolt3: Maybe see if it's Matrix notification related? Stranger things have happened.17:09
mmikowskiOne thin we used to see here *all the time* in 5.24.7 is Discover "crashing' after close.17:09
arraybolt3Might be, though I don't have any other program that generates the number of notifications that Element does. Except for the Element web app, I could switch to that I guess.17:09
mmikowskiYeah, just for a bit (a day maybe?).17:10
arraybolt3Will do once I get around to it.17:10
mmikowskiAlso, how often does it (plasma-shell?) crash?17:10
arraybolt3Used to be multiple times a day, now it's down to about once a day.17:11
arraybolt3It stopped entirely when I turned notifications off.17:11
mmikowskiWell at least it hasn't eaten your cat.17:11
arraybolt3lol, why does it seem more likely that the cat would try to eat it...17:12
mmikowskiI don't have matrix (I use TheLounge), so testing here is a bit out of range.17:14
mmikowskiIf we knew that it is specific to Matrix, we could at least provide advice and move forward.17:15
arraybolt3K, will try.17:18
mmikowskithanks arraybolt3. I very much appreciate your help.18:27
arraybolt3[m]Glad to help! I just switched to the PWA, if this works then I'll file a bug with Element.18:29
mmikowskithanks mate. bb after lunch.18:38

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