[00:50] <Macwinner> hi, what's the correct way to set the CPU governor to performance on jammy and persist it through reboot?
[00:53] <sarnold> probably there's a powersave panel in the control panel or something similar
[00:53] <sarnold> it should control this daemon https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/hadess/power-profiles-daemon
[01:01] <kgiii> ZDNet is fond of Ubuntu 23.04:  https://www.zdnet.com/article/ubuntu-lunar-lobster-could-be-the-surprise-hit-of-2023/
[02:14] <_jak> hey y'all! I accidentally added a dns server at the system level, and I don't seem to be able to remove it.
[02:14] <rbox> how did you "accidentally" add it?
[02:14] <_jak> The command I used to add it was `systemd-resolve -i $VPN_INTERFACE_NAME --set-dns=$SERVER_IP`, which I thought would set it for the vpn interface only
[02:15] <_jak> but I guess because the interface was just a tun interface it added it to my main ethernet iface, enp5s0
[02:15] <rbox> so set it back
[02:16] <_jak> from the man page, I can just do `resolvectl revert enp5s0`, but thats not persistent across reboots
[02:16] <rbox> you said running that command has effected it beteween reboots?
[02:16] <_jak> so I have to set it back every time I have to reboot
[02:16] <_jak> yes
[02:17] <rbox> did it write it into /etc/systemd/resolved.conf?
[02:17] <sarnold> may grep -r the IP in /etc/systemd/ and see if you can find it there?
[02:20] <_jak> rbox: not really? If I'm reading the manpage for resolvectl correctly, that file is just a stub, and on my system it's pretty much empty. Gimme a sec and I'll show you what I mean
[02:20] <_jak> sarnold: nothing there
[02:20] <sarnold> :(
[02:20] <_jak> or rather, it didnt' return any results
[02:22] <_jak> the last time I tried to root this out, I learned that /etc/systemd/resolved.conf points to /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf, but that file just says that its managed by systemd-resolve, and it points to the loopback resolver that systemd-resolve sets up
[02:23] <rbox>  /etc/resolv.conf points to the stub
[02:23] <rbox> not resolved.conf
[02:27] <_jak> rbox: ah yeah I misspoke, resolved.conf has one heading but a lot of empty fields that are commented out
[02:27] <_jak> this is resolv.conf https://termbin.com/1p2cb
[02:28] <_jak> and this is /etc/systemd/resolved.conf https://termbin.com/kwx7a
[02:28] <rbox> if some setting is persissting then its somewher ein /etc or /var
[02:37] <_jak> yeah that's what I thought too, but I came here after grepping through both of those and coming up essentially nil; looking in /etc just yields the config for the vpn and (if I haven't done a revert) a reference in NetworkManager
[02:39] <_jak> and when I grep through /var I just get hits on the vpn config, and systemd-resolve cycling through using and not using $SERVER_IP as a resolver
[02:39] <_jak> any clues where I can go to find out more about how systemd-resolve actually works? the manpage kind of sent me in a circle
[02:40] <rbox> the source
[03:47] <owner> hi
[04:03] <delcfv> olá
[04:04] <delcfv> hello
[04:08] <delcfv> i am having trouble to run to run systemback and pinguy builder on lubuntu 22.04. I am looking for an alternative app to create live custom iso
[04:09] <arraybolt3> delcfv: I think there's instructions for how to do something like that, let me see if I can find them.
[04:09] <delcfv> thanks!
[04:09] <arraybolt3> delcfv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization See if that helps.
[04:10] <delcfv> gonna do it. thank you
[04:16] <delcfv> I've checked it and it is not what I am looking .. this one is same as cubic, you need to configure all the iso. The apps I mentionde (pinguy and systemback) takes like a picture from the current system that is already configured. I configured a lot of things (i.e. wi-fi usb) that I simply dont remember how, and there's a lot of configs I dont want to do again in chroot, I junt wanted to take my already running system and put ir
[04:16] <delcfv> into a live/installer cd
[04:24] <delcfv> I was able to install Systemback but , when I try to run it , it says it was unable to get root permissions
[04:26] <arraybolt3> Oh. Hmm...
[04:26] <arraybolt3> delcfv: Do you have to run it *as* root with sudo?
[04:27] <arraybolt3> (Systemback doesn't appear to be in Ubuntu's repos, I don't think.)
[04:27] <delcfv> actually I tried to run it through the menu in lxqt
[04:27] <delcfv> I installed it using apt
[04:27] <delcfv> the message says "it was not possible to start graphic interface of systemback. uncapable of getting rooot permissions"
[04:28] <delcfv> so I click ok an it closes
[04:28] <arraybolt3> delcfv: What was the exact command you used to install it? "sudo apt install systemback"?
[04:29] <arraybolt3> Yeah it looks like something like that. Try running "sudo systemback" in a terminal to see if that works.
[04:29] <delcfv> yes, but beforre I added the repository
[04:29] <delcfv> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nemh/systemback/ubuntu xenial main"
[04:30] <delcfv> ok
[04:30] <delcfv> sudo systemback
[04:30] <delcfv> QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
[04:30] <delcfv>  Unsafe X Window authorization!
[04:30] <delcfv>                                                                                                     
[04:30] <delcfv>  Por favor não use o comando 'sudo'.
[04:31] <delcfv> "please dont use sudo command" in the last line
[04:31] <arraybolt3> lol
[04:31] <arraybolt3> OK well that's not going to work then.
[04:31] <delcfv> if I try without sudo, it gives an error dialog claiming about root permission
[04:32] <arraybolt3> Sadly it looks like systemback was installed from a third-party repository since it is *not* in the Ubuntu repositories themselves. You may need to ask the systemback developer for help, as he'll actually know how to help. We probably won't.
[04:32] <arraybolt3> s/he'll/they'll/
[04:33] <delcfv> ok, thank you very much. It seems no  longer have support, so I am already looking for and alternative. PInguy Builder was another try, but could not install due do dependencies errors, and they no longer have support too
[04:34] <arraybolt3> I have an idea, if you're interested.
[04:35] <arraybolt3> You could set up everything the way you want, then boot from a live USB and shrink down your partition as much as possible.
[04:35] <arraybolt3> Then just make a disk image of the start of the hard drive including everything up until a bit past the end of the partition.
[04:35] <arraybolt3> Meh, that actually might have problems...
[04:36] <arraybolt3> ...though you could just take an image of just the partition.
[04:36] <arraybolt3> But basically, get a disk image of the set-up-and-shrunk partition, then you can partition a new disk, flash the partition, grow it, grow the filesystem, and have your setup ready to go.
[04:38] <delcfv> so I would basically copy everything as is, removing the free space, right? I have separate partitions for / and /home, is this a problem?
[04:39] <arraybolt3> Yeah, that's the basic idea.
[04:40] <arraybolt3> Separate / and /home partitions may complicate things.
[04:41] <arraybolt3> I'm realizing though that even my original idea might have complications requiring extra fiddling to get things to work right. Hmm.
[04:41] <arraybolt3> It might not though.
[04:42] <delcfv> so here's a suggestion for developers, apparently there's a gap for a new tools that does it on that way.. I was excited when I saw the possibility with those two tools but unfortunately they didnt work
[04:42] <arraybolt3> It definitely seems like a cool idea, and while similar things exist for the server world, they could be useful for the desktop world too.
[04:44] <delcfv> I am already using Timeshift for system snapshots but itś not the same thing. With a live/installer iso with all my programs, configurations(including wifi usb fix lol) I could reinstall it on the same pc and evenin other pcs
[05:45] <adit> hello
[05:45] <adit> ngopi
[05:45] <adit> exit
[07:23] <premkumar> copy and paste is diasble in my new partition
[07:23] <premkumar> what can i do please help anyone?
[07:24] <arraybolt3> To be clear, you can't copy from or paste into any app on your system?
[07:24] <premkumar> unable to copy and paste
[07:24] <arraybolt3> If that's the case, try using the right ctrl key rather than the left ctrl key, maybe your keyboard is broken?
[07:25] <premkumar> no brother copy and paste option in disable
[07:25] <arraybolt3> I don't know what you mean by "disabled". There is no setting in Ubuntu to disable copy and paste.
[07:25] <arraybolt3> Either your keyboard is broken, or you're trying to do something specific that isn't working as expected, or something is horribly broken.
[07:26] <premkumar> copy and paste option is unable to click
[07:26] <arraybolt3> What exactly are you trying to copy? A file?
[07:26] <arraybolt3> (Copying and pasting a file works differently from copying and pasting text, for example.)
[07:27] <arraybolt3> There has to be more details you can give. "unable to copy and paste" is not enough info - there's too many possible other things involved to know what is wrong (what are you copying? where are you pasting it? what apps are involved? etc.). I need that extra detail in order to be helpful.
[07:31] <premkumar> i create a new partition in that partition i cannot able to copy and paste
[07:31] <EriC^^> premkumar: copy also is disabled? or only paste?
[07:31] <arraybolt3> premkumar: Oh. I get it.
[07:32] <arraybolt3> You probably have file permissions set wrong. I misunderstood "partition".
[07:32] <arraybolt3> premkumar: OK, can you open a terminal? Ctrl+Alt+T will usually do that.
[07:33] <premkumar> terminal is open brother
[07:33] <alkisg> premkumar: which program are you using, gparted?
[07:33] <arraybolt3> Nice. OK, do you know what folder your partition is in? It may be under /media/<username>.
[07:33] <arraybolt3> alkisg: I think he's trying to copy and paste files between two partitions.
[07:33] <arraybolt3> If that's the case, this is just a matter of running "chmod 0777" on the folder his partition is mounted into.
[07:33] <premkumar> yes arraybolt3 brother
[07:34] <premkumar> chmod 0777 how to run
[07:34] <arraybolt3> premkumar: OK, so run "cd /media/<your username here>".
[07:35] <premkumar> in terminal ?
[07:35] <arraybolt3> Yes.
[07:35] <arraybolt3> (Replace <your username here> with your username, and also the quote marks shouldn't be part of the command.)
[07:36] <EriC^^> premkumar: inside the folder you're trying to paste in right click -> open in terminal
[07:38] <arraybolt3> premkumar: Follow EriC^^'s advice, the way he's saying to do things is easier than what I was suggesting.
[07:39] <premkumar> iam do this brother not working
[07:40] <alkisg> premkumar: can you run this command inside the terminal, and tell us the output? lsblk -fe7 | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:50] <premkumar> yes alkisg i type
[07:54] <alkisg> premkumar: OK, tell us the output, e.g. https://termin.com/1234
[07:56] <premkumar> output after lsblk
[07:56] <premkumar> NAME MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
[07:56] <premkumar> loop0
[07:56] <premkumar>        7:0    0  10.5M  1 loop /snap/auto-cpufreq/124
[07:56] <premkumar> loop1
[07:56] <premkumar>        7:1    0  72.9M  1 loop /snap/core22/522
[08:01] <Exotic> a
[09:54] <dzhi> hi all
[09:54] <dzhi> anyone could recommend a solution better than overlayroot?
[10:21] <snowkid> If I have to make a series of very large temp files on an NVME during an ETL, is it better (for the NVME) to write them all first then delete the set or delete them as I go
[10:22] <snowkid> If theres a better group I can ask this ? in also lmk
 "If theres a better group I can..." <- This is a kernel-lebel device driver issue, in combination with a filesystem implementation question. I'm afraid #ubuntu:libera.chat is not relevant for that at all.
[10:30] <M-Ira[m]> Kernel level, of course.
[10:30] <snowkid> pretty sure of that, but you know why not ask the smartest guys on irc
 "pretty sure of that, but you..." <- I used to work for a storage company so I understand the question, I doubt most people here would even know the jargon ;)
[10:46] <M-Ira[m]> What are you actually trying to do?
[11:10] <snowkid> I have to generate about 500 Gigs of json files at 300 Megs a piece, transform them, generate sql files out of them and insert into pg.
[11:11] <snowkid> i would do it all in one swath but the data cones in too slow to warrant the risk
[11:36] <Lettiudo>  $ sudo zpool create ssd1 /dev/sda -> ./dev/sda is in use and contains a unknown filesystem
[11:38] <Lettiudo> ok I will be back
[11:47] <nikolam> can I add to DHCP ethernet interface, another static IP address, in Netplan config?
[11:48] <nikolam> I have another interface with 2 static Ip addresses and it workd. But would like to keep the first interface on DHCP for main Ip and add a second one
[11:51] <JohannesWegener[> could anybody help me with routing problems
[11:51] <JohannesWegener[> hi
[11:51] <JohannesWegener[> I have a tuntap interface and it seems it doesn't want to forward my packets to my upstream device (enp0s1)
[11:53] <JohannesWegener[> https://pastebin.com/raw/RsgMtpWc < tcpdump
[11:55] <JohannesWegener[> https://pastebin.com/raw/Tvm7PHtQ <- iptables, routing tables and addresses
[11:55] <nikolam> what 'route' command outputs?
[11:56] <JohannesWegener[> see second paste bin for ip r
[11:59] <JohannesWegener[> It seems it might be some issue with what I try to setup (open5gs and ueransim) that both need to be on two VMs/inside docker for some reason I don't understand
[12:00] <nikolam> sudo sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 ?
[12:00] <JohannesWegener[> of course I did set that
[12:04] <maks> Hello, I'am struggling with permamanent change of my mouse configuration, xinput --set-prop works fine in terminal, but I cannot put in on autostart
[12:20] <maks> Hello, I'am struggling with permamanent change of my mouse configuration, xinput --set-prop works fine in terminal, but I cannot put in on autostart
[12:22] <delcfv> ok, so I have not been on IRC by almost 20 years, and I used to have tunned irc apps with many options/buttons and lots of groups. NOw I have QUassel IRC and can see this group only. HOw could I look for and connect to other servers and other groups? I'm a bit lost here
[12:25] <oerheks> maks, create a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-libinput.conf and put it there?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:33] <maks> @oerheks i think i've tried this solution but i cannot see this file, somehow it has been deleted
[12:33] <oerheks> no, that folder is empty, create that file
[12:33] <oerheks>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ are for manual added conf files
[12:34] <oerheks> from https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/libinput
[12:36] <maks> thanks, I will try this way, I hoped to make it easier by sh script but it doesn't work on new ubuntu
[13:58] <ptempier> hello
[13:59] <ptempier> i got a bug in ubuntu-drivers-common , tried to ping the devs here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1965811  , but it s in a similar bug
[13:59] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1965811 in software-properties (Ubuntu Jammy) "software-properties-qt does not load driver information" [Critical, Fix Released]
[14:00] <ptempier> is it goos enought or should i make a separate bug report  ?
[14:05] <oerheks> ptempier, there is a fix, wait for it to be published in software-properties/0.99.20
[14:06] <oerheks> also, you can add yourself to this bugreport. no need for that, AFAIK
[14:06] <ptempier> ok , thanks
[14:07] <ptempier> my understanding is that this bug/fix is for software-properties-qt, but that there s the same issue in ubuntu-drivers-common
[14:10] <ptempier> @oerheks, there's no fix in detect.py in http://launchpadlibrarian.net/592251500/software-properties_0.99.19_0.99.20.diff.gz
[14:10] <oerheks> oh, i read it was working
[14:11] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1965811/comments/4
[14:11] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1965811 in software-properties (Ubuntu Jammy) "software-properties-qt does not load driver information" [Critical, Fix Released]
[14:12] <ptempier> yes yes, ut my understanding is that 2 differebt packages have the same error codded in them
[14:14] <oerheks> write a comment to that bugreport 1965811, to help
[14:14] <oerheks> you are on Jammy, right?
[14:14] <oerheks> 22.04
[14:16] <ptempier> yes, thats  what i did , that was also my question if it was enought or if i needed a separate bug report
[14:18] <oerheks> nope, this will do
[14:19] <ptempier> thanks
[14:35] <Guest86> I earlier today installed (and later de-installed) ubuntu 22.10. I encountered a number of bugs such as typing exit in the terminal caused the screen to glitch horribly and I couldn't leave the session. Did I make the mistake of not using 22.04?
[14:35] <tmpm697> why images in this link formatted with qcow2 instead of using qcow3? https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/
[14:36] <tmpm697> qcow3 format created from like 2016.
[14:36] <tmpm697> why still using qcow2? or i missed smth?
[14:38] <ruser> is newer == better?
[14:39] <Guest86> What's wrong with qcow2? People still use zip despite being as old as MS-DOS.
[14:39] <Guest86> Just an example.
[14:39] <tmpm697> sound better: https://wiki.qemu.org/Features/Qcow3
[14:39] <oerheks> There are three versions of QCOW, though there are only two main ones: qcow and qcow2. The newest qcow3 format is just an extension of qcow2 and tools like qemu-img refer to qcow3 as qcow2, there is no -f qcow3 switch for specifically creating qcow3 images.
[14:39] <oerheks> so, qcow2 it is.
[14:40] <tmpm697> so if i use latest qcow2, it's qcow3?
[14:41] <tmpm697> how can i verify that if qcow3 is supported in my system?
[14:41] <Guest86> Anyways. About my issue I had earlier. Is using 22.10 something worth using for production use or daily use? Or should I really be using 22.04?
[14:41] <tmpm697> i sticked with 22.04 lts
[14:41] <tmpm697> on an vm for testing.
[14:42] <tmpm697> and it's qcow2 image vm that why i had my question :v
[14:42] <tmpm697> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ , official ubuntu cloud images bundle with qcow2 format.
[14:42] <tmpm697> is that mean there's no qcow3 format?
[14:43] <oerheks> use qemu-img info to check the image format
[14:43] <oerheks> indeed, there are no qcow3 images.
[14:43] <tmpm697> yeah i used that against image from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/, it's qcow2
[14:44] <tmpm697> i mean how can i know if that version of qemu actuall support qcow3 features in qcow2 format?
[14:44] <Guest86> Check the manpage.
[14:45] <tmpm697> no qcow3 in `man qemu-system-x86_64`
[14:49] <code105> good morning
[14:49] <code105> how are you guys
[14:49] <tmpm697> evening here :v
[14:52] <code105> @tmpm697 Oh really it's evening in Hanoi
[14:53] <tmpm697> oh shit =)))
[15:39] <Amber12313> Heil Hitler Heil Führer
[15:39] <Amber12313> Dear battlemates:
[15:39] <Drone> Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[15:39] <Amber12313> Jews, Freemasons, Slavs and homosexuals are to be exterminated according to the judgment of the People's Court of Munich n. 1/03 of 2023.
[15:39] <Amber12313> Whoever delivers them, preferably alive, will be exempt from paying taxes for 5 (five) years.
[15:39] <Amber12313> The delivery will be carried out in the extermination camp of Bagno a Ripoli.
[15:42] <arraybolt3> !ops | Network policy violating content from Amber12313
[15:43] <arraybolt3> Meh, I shoulda used #ubuntu-ops probably since the guy already left.
 "I have to generate about 500..." <- Ohhhh... That kind of etl. Duhh. I was thinking about something else...
[15:43] <M-Ira[m]> So the question is about buffing the data and writing only complete blocks (I think 64kb for nvme?) as opposed to many tiny writes? Well, I suppose writing bigger buffered chunks is better for longevity, but it is probably negligible.
[15:47] <krytarik> arraybolt3: Indeed, it doesn't help particularly much here when the "emergency" has already passed. >_<
[15:50] <arraybolt3> Sorry about that.
[15:53] <webchat93> I just purchased a Dell XPS-13 9315 with Ubuntu 20.04 and I can not get my printer Epson ET-2650 to work.
[15:54] <oerheks> is it listed in openprinting.org?
[15:55] <webchat93> I do not know
[15:55] <arraybolt3> webchat93: Does this help? https://epson.com/Support/Printers/All-In-Ones/ET-Series/Epson-ET-2650/s/SPT_C11CF47201?review-filter=Linux
[16:01] <webchat93> which of the downloads do i chose there are 2 Deb packages 3 RPM packages and a tar-gz package?
[16:03] <webchat93> I installed the LSB package already.
[16:03] <rpittau> hello everyone, we just found a discrepancy in the files content for the shim-signed package in ubuntu focal, the version 1.40.9+15.7-0ubuntu1 on https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/shim-signed has the wrong list of files reported
[16:05] <ioria> webchat93, not a printers expert, but have you tried to simple install printer-driver-escpr from the ubuntu repo ?
[16:07] <snowkid> M-Ira[m] I was just trying to be considerate because when amateur users try to use this on their NVMe it will burn up precious readwrite cycles on their HW
[16:07] <snowkid> its cool I found #hardware
[16:09] <tomreyn> webchat93: i think your chances will be best with the epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.25-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb package
[16:10] <tomreyn> webchat93: though it's possible that a suitable driver is already installed.
[16:11] <webchat93> I installed the epson-inkjet-printer-escpr_1.7.25-1lsb3.2_amd64.deb package and it is still not printing
[16:12] <tomreyn> rpittau: which architecture?
[16:12] <rpittau> tomreyn: I checked only amd64
[16:13] <tomreyn> webchat93: you need to also configure the printer at http://localhost:631
[16:14] <tomreyn> rpittau: does what you downloaded match the SHA256 checksum at https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal-updates/amd64/shim-signed/download ?
[16:14] <rpittau> tomreyn: checking
[16:15] <gartral> major issue: there's a package conflict with DiscoDOS and mono-devel. I'm in a state where I can't remove discodos or install mono-devel. Apt will not continue with apt --fix-broken install. This is ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS
[16:17] <rpittau> tomreyn: unfortunately I can't verify the checksum at the moment, but I can confirm the version
[16:17] <rpittau> tomreyn: Get:2 https://mirror.gra1.ovh.opendev.org/ubuntu focal-updates/main amd64 shim-signed amd64 1.40.9+15.7-0ubuntu1 [667 kB]
[16:18] <rpittau> tomreyn: this is the contet https://pastebin.com/raw/RSbMAMzt
[16:20] <tomreyn> rpittau: what is the actual problem, the deviation, what did you expect, what did you see instead, which impact does it have? can you sum it up in words?
[16:21] <rpittau> tomreyn: the impact is that we have scripts that work based on the file list, if that list is wrong kind of breaks our automation unexpectedly, catches us by surprise
[16:22] <tomreyn> rpittau: you have scripts which retrieve information from packages.ubuntu.com and work based on that? if so, change that.
[16:23] <tomreyn> this is a community run site, i would not recommend trusting the information provided there too much to be complete or current.
[16:24] <tomreyn> (i don't expect it to provide intentionally wrong information)
[16:24] <rpittau> tomreyn: I probably expressed myself badly, we don't have automation based on packages.ubuntu.com, but on the content of the package listed there. Anyway, if that source is not to be trusted, would you suggest an alternative?
[16:25] <tomreyn> rpittau: an installed ubuntu system
[16:25] <tomreyn> or your local archive mirror
[16:26] <rpittau> tomreyn: ok, thanks
[16:26] <tomreyn> rpittau: so your scripts unpack packages, probably using "dpkg -x"? and then?
[16:28] <rpittau> tomreyn: we download the package, unpack it and copy part of the content in a different location to be used, in this case the signed shimx64.efi file, that changed name unexpectedly in focal, which is an LTS release
[16:29] <tomreyn> so, i'm now guessing the difference you're talking about is in these two files? ./usr/lib/shim/shimx64.efi.signed.latest ./usr/lib/shim/shimx64.efi.signed.previous
[16:30] <rpittau> tomreyn: the name of the file was /usr/lib/shim/shimx64.efi.signed, it's become /usr/lib/shim/shimx64.efi.signed.latest
[16:31] <tomreyn> i see
[16:31] <tomreyn> and this change took place between when you downloaded the package and when it was installed on the system?
[16:31] <rpittau> tomreyn: we fixed the CI automation, not a huge change, it was just a big surprise to see the name change happen
[16:32] <rpittau> that's why I asked for a reliable source for the package content
[16:32] <rpittau> I guess I can build a script to read the content from the mirror
[16:33] <tomreyn> the reliable source of a package content is the package, which should be verified by its checksum, which should be verified by its Release file, which should be verified by its cryptographic signature, which should be verified with its gpgp signing key, which should be verified through a https:// download from ubuntu.com, i think
[16:34] <tomreyn> rpittau: fortunately, most of those verification steps are carried out by apt automatically
[16:35] <rpittau> again, just not expecting a content change like that in the middle of a stable release lifecycle
[16:35] <tomreyn> so content of this package changed from one version to the other? that's not too unusual
[16:36] <tomreyn> if it changed on the same package version, that'd be bad, but i'm not seeing you state so
[16:37] <bn_work> hi, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, how does one flush the DNS cache?  neither of the items mentioned on https://vitux.com/how-to-flush-the-dns-cache-on-ubuntu/ exist??
[16:38] <rpittau> tomreyn: I expect the content of a package to be the same even between versions during a stable distribution lifecycle, but in this case it changed between the same versions
[16:38] <rpittau> from 1.40.7 to 1.40.9
[16:40] <tomreyn> rpittau: hmm, if the content changed for a versioned package i'd consider this (at least) a bug, and would report it. if contents changed between different versions of this package, i would not be surprised.
[16:40] <rpittau> tomreyn: alright, thank you for your help
[16:44] <tomreyn> rpittau: so... i could NOT back this up with references to https://packaging.ubuntu.com - but my understanding of "release stability" is that software remains functionally compatible to the original versions' release, not that the files provided in a package will remain identially named.
[16:45] <tomreyn> bn_work: resolvectl flush-caches
[16:46] <tomreyn> bn_work: the systemd-resolve command last existed in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
[16:48] <bn_work> ok, thanks
[16:48] <tomreyn> gartral: both packages are in universe, thus have received only community support so far. this may or may not change in ubuntu pro.
[16:49] <tomreyn> gartral: if you have apt commands and output generated by it which shows the details of this conflict, maybe we can help you solve this.
 "עירא - Ira I was just trying..." <- Makes sense. So what did the #hardware peeps say? 64k writes?
[17:06] <transhumanist> hi! can anyone help run down  a problem with 22.10 where it seems to be sucking up 64 gig of ram and about 20 gig of swap space?
[17:08] <transhumanist> https://bpa.st/KA3BG
[17:10] <ravage> transhumanist: that is 2GB of swap first of all. show the output of "free -m"
[17:10] <ravage> or better "free -mh"
[17:11] <peirik> Pressing the Super key brings up the Activities Overview which displays thumbnails of all open application windows. Is there any way to open a similar overview screen but only with the windows for the currently active/focused application (like the App Expose on Mac)?
[17:12] <transhumanist> ah , thanks ravage nm miss read it
[17:13] <transhumanist> free -mh    total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available Mem:            62Gi        62Gi        87Mi        69Mi       315Mi       8.0Mi   Swap:          2.0Gi       1.9Gi        85Mi
[17:13] <transhumanist> it is using 62 Gi so it seems unless I am miss reading that too
[17:14] <tomreyn> transhumanist: what's the output of: cat /proc/version
[17:15] <transhumanist> Linux version 5.19.0-35-generic (buildd@lcy02-amd64-014) (x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc-12 (Ubuntu 12.2.0-3ubuntu1) 12.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Ubuntu) 2.39) #36-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Feb 3 18:36:56 UTC 2023
[17:19] <tomreyn> and this "ramdrive-ram" you deleted, what's this? can you pastebin "vmstat" and "vmstat -s"
[17:20] <transhumanist> https://bpa.st/TC3R6
[17:20] <transhumanist> that is an old ram drive, it didnt appear in /etc/fstab so not sure why it persists if that is the issue and it was supposed to be 32 gig at the time anyway
[17:21] <transhumanist> ah wait one more possiblity zram or zswap, I forgot about that hold on
[17:35] <snowkid> M-Ira[m] basically not enough to care unless problems arise
[17:42] <transhumanist> tomreyn, seems that zram and zswap are not installed so that isnt the culprit
[17:42] <transhumanist> going to try rebooting one more time and see if it clears the issue perhaps some part of ram drive is still hanging around in memory or something
[17:43] <transhumanist> bb in 2
[18:34] <Guest15> hi
[18:35] <Guest15> i need help front multi jack. detect headphone but not mic.
[18:35] <Guest15> http://alsa-project.org/db/?f=d75bff443b2b3cf5c47b9139e33a40eec1da449a
[18:37] <oerheks> the jack of your device is multi?
[18:37] <Guest15> Windows Work like Multi
[18:37] <oerheks> open terminal; alsamixer # and see if there are sliders down / muted
[18:38] <Guest15> plug headset and show me popup `headset or headset with mic`
[18:39] <Guest15> oerheks pavucontrol show headphone and mic no detected
[18:40] <oerheks> Comet Lake  .. seen a lot of issues, is  firmware-sof-signed installed??
[18:41] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1454347/dummy-ouput-no-sound-ubuntu-22-04-and-22-10
[18:41] <Guest15> oerheks i can install 20.04.6?
[18:42] <oerheks> yes, but why?
[18:42] <Guest15> i`ll try thanks
[18:47] <Guest15> linux-firmware installed
[18:47] <Guest15> firmware-sof-signed dpkg error  '/lib/firmware/intel/sof/sof-bdw.ri have in linux-firmware too
[19:18] <mozambique> HELLO
[19:18] <mozambique> sorry
[19:52] <luna__> I just would like to inform you that mate ubuntu, even with the gnome de, will not give me the ability to sign in to my already exsisting discord account that worked on ubuntu vanilla 22.04
[19:53] <leftyfb> luna__: that's not how you ask for support
[19:53] <ravage> ok. noted to /dev/null. have a nice day :)
[19:57] <luna__> I thought I was clear that i was not asking for support. I had given up.
[19:57] <ravage> then please dont write it here. this is a support channel
[19:57] <ravage> bye :D
[19:58] <morgan-acer> oh I apologize is there hope? -rewise - Does anyone know anything about discord.com )open discord in browser) only giving us the opportunity to register for a new account and not to give a signin page for an existing account?
[19:58] <morgan-acer> reVise
[19:59] <ravage> https://discord.com/login
[20:00] <morgan-acer> related fact: I quit using the discord-app (in a 22.04 gnome install) because journalctl showed that discord was constantly doing something that made trouble and filled up the journalctl file with refused things.
[20:01] <morgan-acer> ravage, right that IS where I witnessed the problem.
[20:01] <ravage> what problem?
[20:02] <morgan-acer> The problem I described above, that of not getting a login page, only getting the new signup page.
[20:02] <ravage> i get the login page. i can login.
[20:04] <morgan-acer> ravage, I should re-mention that this was a mate install, using mate or the gnome de/
[20:05] <ravage> i see no relevance here really. your DE should not affect the contents of websites
[20:06] <ravage> if you have problems with discord's website you should contact discord
[20:06] <morgan-acer> righon ravage. So you dont understand either.
[20:06] <morgan-acer> right on
[20:06] <morgan-acer> and I have.
[20:07] <morgan-acer> "should not" the most famous set of words....
[20:07] <ravage> great then
[20:08] <morgan-acer> I had a thought during this convo. I shall install the app and see what I get.
[20:08] <morgan-acer> Thanks for your time and attention.
[20:26] <bn_work> tomreyn:  so did they forget to update the text for this in 22.04 LTS?  so is the new method on 22.04+ to check what DNS servers are used to now interact with `resolvectl status`? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VvFZmaTD/cat%20%2Fetc%2Fresolv.conf.log
[20:27] <tomreyn> bn_work: who is "they"?
[20:28] <bn_work> tomreyn: I guess whoever updated how DNS resolution now works in Ubuntu?
[20:28] <tomreyn> bn_work: i mean: what made you think you should be using systemd-resolve rather than resolvctl in the first place?
[20:29] <tomreyn> i don't know which text you'Re referring to, which documentation or similar
[20:29] <bn_work> https://vitux.com/how-to-flush-the-dns-cache-on-ubuntu/ ?
[20:29] <tomreyn> ah, you mean some third party website is stating things incorrectly.
[20:30] <tomreyn> that does seem to be the case, yes
[20:30] <bn_work> also, in the past /etc/resolv.conf used to just flatly list the DNS servers there (not sure if this is Linode just changing what the default is in their bootstrapped Linode image though)
[20:32] <bn_work> tomreyn: I wonder how they got it to work because they claim they did this on 22.04
[20:32] <tomreyn> so indeed, as explained previously, and as explained in the file you just posted, you can use "resolvectl" to query the configuration of the local dns cache
[20:33] <ravage> i see no publish date on that article but https://vitux.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/word-image-70.png shows that they are not able to predict the future
[20:33] <tomreyn> bn_work: i think this vitux.com website is just providing incorrect information in this article. it's best to work with official documentation when you can.
[20:34] <tomreyn> bn_work: maybe start with this: ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[20:35] <tomreyn> and then read the full comment header of what you posted
[20:35] <tomreyn> and then maybe refer to these man pages, as needed
[20:39] <bn_work> ravage: lol
[20:41] <ioria> ravage, right
[20:41] <ioria> ravage, is from 2018
[20:41] <bn_work> tomreyn: ah, I guess I misinterpreted your comment the other day to mean `systemd-resolved` isn't even being used anymore (when I guess it was just the command?)
[20:42] <ioria> ravage, (on firefox) View page Source
[20:44] <ioria> bn_work, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1409726/systemd-resolve-command-not-found-in-ubuntu-22-04-desktop
[20:46] <tomreyn> bn_work: The information I tried to convey then is: "systemd-resolve" (the command, not the daemon) does no longer (it used to exist in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS) exist in Ubuntu 20.04 LTs and later.
[20:55] <MonsieurBon> Hi. I have a Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 3rd Gen. Recently my HDMI stopped working. The external monitor is not being detected anymore. The monitor is running fine on HDMI from other laptops. What could be the issue here?
[20:58] <tomreyn> a bad hdmi cable, a firmware or software change, a hardware failure.
[21:04] <MonsieurBon> tomreyn, the hdmi cable should not be the issue. It works fine with other laptops running Windows or Ubuntu. Firmware did not change recently. Software change or hardware failure are probably the options, yes. What can I try to do to solve the issue?
[21:12] <topcat001> MonsieurBon: try the Ubuntu ISO's live mode; that should help isolate any software issues.
[21:18] <jhutchins> MonsieurBon: Something you haven't eliminated is the hardware on the laptop.
[21:19] <jhutchins> MonsieurBon: How do you know the monitor is not detected?
[21:20] <MonsieurBon> topcat001, jhutchins, I'll give the Ubuntu ISO's live mode a go to eliminate a hardware failure. But can't do that at the moment.
[21:20] <MonsieurBon> jhutchins, it's not reacting when plugged in and turned on and it does not show up under Settings -> Displays
[21:23] <jhutchins> MonsieurBon: Ok, that's clear at least.  Yeah, I'd try a live image, which might not have whatever got upgraded and maybe broke.
[21:24] <jhutchins> MonsieurBon: Model names and numbers don't reliably identify the hardware; what chipset is it, and what driver are you running?
[21:25] <MonsieurBon> jhutchins, Intel HD Graphics 5500 no special drivers
[21:26] <jhutchins> i915 probably?
[21:27] <MonsieurBon> jhutchins, how do I find out?
[21:30] <topcat001> lspci -k
[21:30] <jhutchins> lsmod would show any kernel level drivers, /var/log/Xorg.0.log if you're running X11, and I imagine Wayland has some kind of log.  (Note that the X log is very noisy.)
[21:31] <MonsieurBon> jhutchins, i915, yes
[21:31] <jhutchins> topcat001: I don't think that shows the X drivers, just the kernel level.
[21:32] <jhutchins> Ok, well known, no known problems recently.
[21:34] <jhutchins> Does anything show up with xrandr?
[21:37] <MonsieurBon> jhutchins, xrandr: https://pastebin.com/LfJg4NCh
[21:40] <topcat001> Since the X driver (DDX) is either "intel" or "modesetting", not i915, I assumed you meant the kernel driver.
[21:41] <topcat001> but yes, X log is the easy way to find which DDX is in use
[21:42] <jilocasin> evening everyone
[21:43] <octav1a> hi
[21:43] <octav1a> what do you think about this? https://ubuntuunity.org/download/
[21:43] <leftyfb> !ot | octav1a
[21:44] <jilocasin> can anyone explain how an ubuntu  20.04.5 LTS *server* version suddenly has a dozen or more gnome-shell processes running?
[21:45] <ravage> jilocasin: someone, probably you(?) installed desktop packages
[21:45] <jilocasin> ravage: not me, it's a server that I only access via ssh.
[21:45] <ravage> you can check /var/log/apt/history.log
[21:46] <leftyfb> jilocasin: someone installed 1 or more packages that required gnome-shell
[21:47] <jilocasin> leftyfb: thanks any idea how I might find out what that package(s) might be?
[21:49] <jilocasin> leftyfb: thanks, I found it.
[21:51] <jilocasin> leftyfb: according to apt's history, the only think installed today was gnu parallel
[21:52] <leftyfb> jilocasin: that file only goes back so far
[21:52] <jilocasin> leftyfb: looking at the source for parallel now, no references to gnome anything.  it was just started about an hour ago....
[21:52] <jhutchins> MonsieurBon: Sorry real life... I don't have any actionable suggestions.  Does the laptop not have VGA out?
[21:52] <jilocasin> leftyfb: the gnome processes.
[21:53] <leftyfb> jilocasin: zgrep Commandline.*install /var/log/apt/history*
[21:54] <MonsieurBon> jhutchins, no problem! Nope, no VGA. It has mini DP, but I don't have an adapter right now. I'll try to get one in the office on Friday to see if that works. I'll quickly give the live usb stick a go. I'll be back.
[21:54] <jilocasin> leftyfb: nothing there either...
[21:54] <tomreyn> zgrep -C2 gnome-shell /var/log/apt/history.log*
[21:55] <jilocasin> tomreyn: ugg lots og gnome there.
[21:56] <leftyfb> jilocasin: zgrep " install " /var/log/dpkg*
[21:56] <jhutchins> It's interesting and possibly significant that xrandr doesn't list the DP.
[21:57] <jilocasin> leftyfb: piping that through grep gnome-shell shows that someone did indead install it :/
[21:57] <jilocasin> leftyfb: any idea how to find out who did that?
[21:58] <leftyfb> jilocasin: look through /var/log/auth* for the date/time in question
[21:58] <tomreyn> apt-history.log should really say, if it's not rotated out
[21:59] <tomreyn> "Requested-By: "
[21:59] <leftyfb> tomreyn: that also. But again, matching the file and time
[21:59] <tomreyn> yes
[22:06]  * jilocasin ugggg.... history log in iso date, auth log in Feb 02 00:00:00 format. why do they do this to us.
[22:08] <jilocasin> it was a littel bit convoluted, but I do believe I've found the culprit.  thanks everyone for your help.
[22:09] <jhutchins> jilocasin: Care to share your results for those of us in the cheap seats?
[22:11] <MonsieurBon> jhutchins, no success with the live USB... But the output from xrandr was a bit different: https://pastebin.com/QXSrf5uF
[22:11] <cryptonector> I thought `apt-get install $pkg` should install all its dependencies, but then why do I get `The following packages have unmet dependencies: $pkg : Depends: $other_pkg but it is not going to be installed`?
[22:12] <jhutchins> MonsieurBon: Ok, yeah, it shows the HDMI and the DP (2ea?).
[22:12] <MonsieurBon> jhutchins, so at least in live USB the HDMI is kind of detected, even though the monitor would not show up...
[22:12] <jhutchins> MonsieurBon: But still no display?
[22:12] <MonsieurBon> jhutchins, I have on each. No idea why there are two...
[22:12] <jhutchins> MonsieurBon: Did you power off or just reboot to the iso?
[22:13] <MonsieurBon> jhutchins, Just reboot. Should I try shut down?
[22:13] <jhutchins> MonsieurBon: I would.  I mean ... "Did you try turning it off and back on again?"
[22:14] <jilocasin> it jhutchins: a user back on 20230303 logged in via ssh using a service account and installed gnome on to the server.  searching the dpkg logs and piping through grep let me to the fact that it was installed, marking the exact time, and translating the format in my head I found the compresses auth log for that time.  uncompressing it and looking for the exact time, to the second
[22:14] <jhutchins> Probably no difference, but it doesn't hurt to check.
[22:14] <jilocasin> revealed the account used.
[22:14] <MonsieurBon> jhutchins, hehe, I'll give it a go
[22:15] <jhutchins> jilocasin: Is someone now duct taped to their chair?
[22:15] <leftyfb> jilocasin: you can use zgrep and zcat instead of having to uncompress the log file(s)
[22:15] <jhutchins> zless too.
[22:16] <jilocasin> leftyfb: thanks
[22:16] <jilocasin> jhutchins: as soon as I can find them, it's after hours here, and only crazies like myself are still working.
[22:16] <tomreyn> cryptonector: because you are using apt repositories which are not compatible to your ubuntu release
[22:18] <cryptonector> tomreyn: It's github actions, using ubuntu-18.04 (yes, I know) and I'm trying to install libcups2-dev
[22:19] <cryptonector> I'm not mokeying with apt repositories at all
[22:19] <jilocasin> the trick now is how do I *cleanly* uninstall gnome from the server without breaking anything.  when I'm on a desktop, I'm a KDE person myself.
[22:21] <tomreyn> cryptonector: there's probably a github support channel somewhere. i assume they don't use unmodified ubuntu installations, probably ahve a lot of different apt sources setup.
[22:22] <cryptonector> tomreyn: aight, thanks
[22:23] <cryptonector> but, curses at the debian packaging system -- one of the least user-friendly pieces of software
[22:23] <tomreyn> do you mean "ncurses"?
[22:24] <cryptonector> if I were trying to draw my cursing on a terminal, I'd use ncurses, but I'm biting my tongue here
[22:24] <MonsieurBon> jhutchins, no luck
[22:37] <cryptonector> tomreyn: so the problem seems to be this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tiff/+bug/1952957
[22:37] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1952957 in tiff (Ubuntu) "libtiff-dev and libtiff-dev:i386 cannot be installed on ubuntu 18.04" [Undecided, New]
[22:38] <morgan-acer> I want to change the password on my keyring in 22.04 and I dont remember the keyring password. Now what? Google gave me lots of inappropriate answers.
[22:38] <EriC^^> MonsieurBon: does wiggling the plug help? try to push it downwards or raise it up
[22:39] <leftyfb> morgan-acer: your keyring password is the password you setup when you installed the machine or added the user. Unless you changed it.
[22:39] <MonsieurBon> EriC^^, nope, nothing
[22:40] <EriC^^> MonsieurBon: nothing in 'sudo dmesg -w' or 'udevadm monitor' when you plug it in?
[22:40] <morgan-acer> yes lefty, I changed it. I would not like to erase all the passwords in the keyring.
[22:40] <morgan-acer> if possible.
[22:40] <morgan-acer> leftyfb,
[22:41] <morgan-acer> but wait, there maybe be nothing there. What is stored in the keyring vs what passwords are stored in the browser?
[22:41] <tomreyn> cryptonector: i386 support is very limited nowadays
[22:41] <leftyfb> morgan-acer: to clarify, you do or do not want to delete the keyring?
[22:41] <cryptonector> tomreyn: I see
[22:42] <morgan-acer> I am going to google that.  ---  leftyb I would like to do it NOT deleting the keyring (AND I found a page explaining to rm the keyring, log out and log back in to reset the kring to the current paw.)
[22:43] <leftyfb> morgan-acer: the only way you unlock the keyring is by knowing the password
[22:44] <MonsieurBon> EriC^^, no, nothing.
[22:47] <morgan-acer> leftyfb, so the only way to get the keyring to use my new password is to remove the entire keyring. Will do.
[22:47] <leftyfb> morgan-acer: you will lose your keyring and all the words in it
[22:49] <morgan-acer> is there a way to change the password and keep what is in it?
[22:49] <morgan-acer> going to google those as search terms.  ))Otherwise, this:  delete login.keyring file
[22:49] <morgan-acer>     rm ~/.local/share/keyrings/login.keyring ((
[22:50] <leftyfb> morgan-acer: only by knowing the original password
[22:51] <morgan-acer> ok,
[22:55] <morgan-acer> done. next reboot's the charm. Thank you.
[23:03] <Sven_vB> hi :) I have two notebooks, both run Ubuntu focal with xfce. I tried to scan a letter with simple-scan. One one of them, the scanned image was just black. on the other, it showed up as expected. where should I start to try and find the difference?
[23:03] <Sven_vB> oh, I used the same USB scanner on both.
[23:07] <Sven_vB> maybe the ability to scan was lost with a kernel update. scan works on "Linux *** 5.8.0-44-lowlatency #50~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Wed Feb 10 22:01:27 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux". black page on "Linux *** 5.15.0-48-lowlatency #54~20.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 2 16:25:18 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[23:07] <dostoyevsky2> I have some Dockerfiles that start like `FROM ubuntu:<version>' ... IIUC as per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35166317 , those repositories are going to disappear... is there an replacement?
[23:10] <Sven_vB> dostoyevsky2, I think this is more of a #docker issue. My glass ball thinks that you should use the docker client to download all the images you need to your own infrastructure and find a way for docker to load them from there. This will also protect you against accidential or scheduled docker hub downtime in the future.
[23:12] <Sven_vB> dostoyevsky2, I think there are also cache proxies that act as a docker hub. you can probably configure them to cache the necessary files forever. it's always a good idea to test how your means of production will behave if they are temporarily disconnected from the web.
[23:22] <Sven_vB> dostoyevsky2, the blog article linked at top of that thread also lists some workarounds. maybe some work for you.