[14:59]  * vorlon waves
[14:59] <bdrung> \o
[14:59] <jawn-smith> o/
[15:00] <zhsj> o/
[15:00] <dbungert> o/
[15:00] <ogayot> o/
[15:00] <slyon> o/
[15:00] <schopin> o/
[15:01] <jawn-smith> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[15:01] <dviererbe> o/
[15:02] <jawn-smith> The weekly status is here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-16-march-2023/34547
[15:02] <jawn-smith> let's all take our usual time to read and ask questions
[15:03] <slyon> vorlon: rendering of https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/component-mismatches-proposed.svg seems to be broken. I assume that might be related to the server migration you mentioned in your report?
[15:03] <jawn-smith> schopin: lol, just saw the glibc issue
[15:03] <vorlon> slyon: I'm seeing a truncated SVG, are you seeing the same?
[15:04] <slyon> ye
[15:04] <slyon> yes
[15:04] <vorlon> slyon: it *might* be related.  I'll dig into it today
[15:04] <slyon> thanks!
[15:05] <schopin> jawn-smith: I was inspired by Steve naming it "best bug report ever" ;)
[15:05] <vorlon> it's not bad timing of the rsync from the backend to the frontend, the truncation is present on the backend
[15:07] <bdrung> The best bug report ever is still "OpenOffice.org does not print on Tuesdays" for me (LP #248619)
[15:07] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 248619 in file (Ubuntu Karmic) "file incorrectly labeled as Erlang JAM file (OOo does not print on Tuesdays)" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/248619
[15:08] <schopin> Ooooh that one is really good, yes!
[15:08] <vorlon> yes, my bug is best on a different axis
[15:08] <vorlon> "how to do maximally unsafe safe string handling"
[15:09] <schopin> "but at least you're not using sprintf"
[15:09] <jawn-smith> #topic Release incoming bugs
[15:09] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:09] <vorlon> dviererbe: you talk about doing alternatives for ping. why is this necessary or desirable?
[15:10] <jawn-smith> I'll wait for bugs until that's answered
[15:11] <dviererbe> the autopackagetests of inetutils fail because inetutils tries to install inetutils-ping and that tries to uninstall iputils-ping which tries to uninstall ubuntu-minimal
[15:11] <slyon> vorlon: https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/inetutils is failing all autopkgtests due to ping install conflict
[15:11] <slyon> iputils-ping (main) vs inetuils-ping (universe)
[15:11] <vorlon> dviererbe, slyon: ok I think introducing alternatives and adding runtime complexity across packages is a bad solution to this, I'd frankly just remove the autopkgtest and/or stop building inetutils-ping
[15:14] <zhsj> vorlon: this option was on the table. the disadvantage is we'll carry the delta with debian. (but i vote for it)
[15:15] <jawn-smith> bug 1999062
[15:15] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1999062 in orc (Ubuntu) "orc build test failure on arm64" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999062
[15:15] <jawn-smith> I believe that we've discussed this one before
[15:15] <zhsj> jawn-smith: isn' desktop
[15:16] <zhsj> isn't this under desktop-packages
[15:16] <jawn-smith> oh wow I totally typed in from the wrong list
[15:16] <jawn-smith> There actually aren't any foundations bugs ll
[15:16] <jawn-smith> Good job
[15:16] <jawn-smith> none in kk either
[15:17] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:17] <jawn-smith> there's one!
[15:17] <jawn-smith> bug 1999345
[15:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1999345 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "please add luks2 module to the signed grub2 images" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999345
[15:17] <jawn-smith> no updates from security team since january
[15:17] <jawn-smith> So juliank: anything for us to do?
[15:17] <juliank> no
[15:17] <jawn-smith> Awesome, let's move on then
[15:18] <jawn-smith> #topic proposed-migration
[15:18] <vorlon> things looking much healthier!
[15:18] <jawn-smith> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[15:18] <jawn-smith> vorlon:
[15:18] <vorlon> waveform: are you still taking care of sbuild?
[15:19] <vorlon> shim-signed: nothing to do, still waiting for kernel updates
[15:20] <vorlon> ogayot: is systemd vs xz-utils on you?
[15:21] <ogayot> xz-utils is still with me. systemd came up as a new regression. I'll have a look. But don't restrain from assigning me an additional proposed-migration
[15:21] <vorlon> waveform is out, but this is still with him
[15:21] <vorlon> ack
[15:22] <slyon> ogayot: I think systemd vs xzutils actually passed on my last retry
[15:22] <vorlon> python3-stdlib-extensions breaks python3.10; I think this is going to shake out via removal of python3.10 which is supposed to happen after nvidia-cuda-toolkit update
[15:22] <vorlon> ginggs: will you follow through on this?
[15:22] <ginggs> python3.10 already removed
[15:22] <vorlon> ok then perhaps just a bit of hinting
[15:22] <ginggs> python3.11, stdlib-extensions and python3-defaults
[15:22] <dviererbe> I have noticed that the pycurl regression I was assigned to is gone https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/pycurl
[15:23] <ginggs> should migrate soon
[15:23] <vorlon> ginggs: you'll follow through if not?
[15:23] <ginggs> sure
[15:23] <vorlon> jawn-smith: you still working e2fsprogs?
[15:23] <ogayot> vorlon: indeed, it passed, thanks
[15:23] <jawn-smith> Yes
[15:23] <vorlon> ginggs: tangentially, does new nvidia-cuda-toolkit fix python3-pycuda uninstallability (due to conflicts)?
[15:23] <jawn-smith> It's a non-trivial regression, just been focused on getting a few ubuntu-image PRs open before I do a deep dive
[15:23] <bdrung> can we build pycurl for i386 as well (to get rid of the devscripts diff)?
[15:24] <vorlon> I don't know, ask on #ubuntu-release after :)
[15:24] <ginggs> vorlon: yes, it looks like pycuda migrated earlier
[15:24] <vorlon> ginggs: great!
[15:24] <ginggs> i think there's a bug in the nvidia drivers though
[15:25] <ginggs> packages shouldn't be getting a dependency on the particular version of the driver they were built against
[15:25] <ginggs> this used to work, but seems something has gone wrong
[15:26] <vorlon> juliank: grub2 has uninstallable binaries which is surprising, can you follow up on this?
[15:26] <juliank> Not entirely surprising the grub2-unsigned upload isn't ready yet
[15:26] <juliank> Will resolve
[15:26] <vorlon> ah
[15:27] <vorlon> adrien: you uploaded openssl, will you follow through on the blocking regressions?
[15:27] <vorlon> oops adrien is out; well, I'll assume this is with him
[15:28] <vorlon> openssl: adrien
[15:29] <vorlon> bdrung: can you take libzstd?
[15:29] <vorlon> and then curl is just waiting for libreoffice tests - so that's it
[15:29] <bdrung> devscripts would probably suite me better
[15:29] <vorlon> if anyone is keen to help and didn't get an assignment, since adrien is out today/tomorrow you could prod openssl along
[15:29] <vorlon> bdrung: ok you can have devscripts
[15:30] <vorlon> dbungert: can you take libzstd?
[15:30] <dbungert> vorlon: ack
[15:30] <vorlon> thanks
[15:30] <vorlon> that's everything
[15:30] <vorlon> jawn-smith: back to you
[15:30] <ginggs> i'll prod openssl
[15:30] <jawn-smith> #topic AOB
[15:30] <bdrung> tzdata says: old binaries left on amd64: tzdata-right
[15:30] <bdrung> Do I need to request the removal?
[15:31] <vorlon> bdrung: you just did
[15:31] <bdrung> thanks vorlon
[15:32] <doko> is something known with the state of the buildds? I have a 60+h build which always finishes without logs
[15:32] <doko> llvm-16
[15:33] <vorlon> not that I've heard
[15:38] <jawn-smith> #endmeeting
[15:38] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:38:28 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-03-16-15.01.moin.txt
[15:41] <adrien> ginggs: thanks; most issues seem to just require new triggers