[03:22] <Zani> Hello there !
[03:22] <Zani> Before filling a bug report I would like some assistance to make sure i didn't miss something about extra mousse button configuration on ubuntu22 that looks impossible :
[03:22] <Zani> Button 8 / 9 works fine on 20 but look to be intercepted by wayland on 22
[03:22] <Zani> I map these button with xbindkeys. Tested with xev that confirmed the diagnostic
[03:23] <Zani> Neither internet or chatgpt solved my problem
[03:40] <Zani> Sorry is someone seeing my above message or am I muted ?
[03:43] <webchat36> Hello
[03:44] <arraybolt3> Zani: I can see you.
[03:44] <arraybolt3> I can also see your earlier message.
[03:44] <Zani> arraybolt3 thanks. Do you know what would be the best place to get help on that problem or do you think i should report that as a bug ?
[03:45] <arraybolt3> Zani: Your problem sounds more like a Wayland limitation than a bug. Many X tools (xrandr, xbindkeys, etc.) are probably not going to work on Wayland because Wayland is not X.
[03:45] <arraybolt3> If you want to use Wayland, probably find a Wayland-specific way to rebind keys.
[03:45] <arraybolt3> Otherwise, you can switch back to X on Ubuntu 22.04.
[03:46] <arraybolt3> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1410256/how-do-i-use-x-instead-of-wayland-on-22-04
[03:47] <webchat36> Thanks for the help. Some other shortcut works with xbindkeys, but I guess that some will not. Will look for an alternative tool then, thanks !
[03:47] <arraybolt3> Glad to help! And you can just switch away from Wayland and that will probably fix everything.
[03:50] <webchat36> Do you think long term wayland will get more and more support and x less and less ?
[03:54] <arraybolt3> Gah, I was just about to answer...
[03:54] <zani2> im still here
[03:54] <zani2> logged out to try to switch on xorg :)
[03:58] <arraybolt3> zani2: Oh, nice!
[03:58] <arraybolt3> zani2: I would suspect X will still be a thing for at least a while longer, as there are desktop environments that are incompatible with Wayland still.
[03:59] <arraybolt3> I can only speculate, but I think Wayland will *probably* end up being like systemd - most stuff will go with it, some people will hate it and cling to other alternatives. I'm personally OK with both, but prefer X.
[04:19] <zani2> Arraybolt3 alright let's see in the future.I guess we will see with time.
[04:19] <zani2> I did solve my problem so I was totally wrong : The button8 / 9 were working fine. xev didn't see the intput cause it was captured by xbindkeys i guess.
[04:19] <zani2> I configured these button to run the "overview" of the desktop (same as pressing Meta/Super key).  I find that super usefull.
[04:19] <zani2> I did trigger that with "dbus-send " command. This command is now more secure and cannot be used like that.
[04:19] <zani2> I go arround the problem by simulating the press with xdotool.
[04:19] <zani2> That is a dirty solution, future myself will find a better way to do that (NOPE i will just probably use this dierty hack until it don't work)
[04:22] <arraybolt3> zani2: \o/
[05:43] <murlidhar> can anyone help me in changing the default booting distro in grub menu list ?
[05:43] <murlidhar> also i want to change the timeout to boot to the defalt distro
[05:44] <EriC^^> murlidhar: sure, type "cat /etc/default/grub /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999'
[05:47] <murlidhar> EriC^^: thanks. what would that do?
[05:47] <murlidhar> nc is an editor ?
[05:47] <EriC^^> upload the files to a pastebin and return a link to share
[05:47] <EriC^^> nc is netcat
[05:47] <murlidhar> okk
[05:49] <murlidhar> EriC^^: https://termbin.com/mqgi
[05:52] <murlidhar> i uninstalled ubuntu 22.10 and replaced it with the daily build of 23.0 . the firefox is crashing up there. i better wait till the stable version is released. uptil then i want to change the default distro to my alternative OS
[05:52] <murlidhar> 23.04*
[05:52] <EriC^^> what's the name of the os you want to boot?
[05:53] <murlidhar> zorin
[05:53] <murlidhar> till the stable version of 23.04 is released
[05:54] <EriC^^> it should be booting zorin by default via this grub file
[05:54] <murlidhar> ?
[05:54] <EriC^^> murlidhar: type 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999'
[05:54] <murlidhar> oh
[05:54] <murlidhar> okay
[05:54] <EriC^^> murlidhar: it might be that the actual grub that's booting is ubuntu's and not this one's grub
[05:55] <murlidhar> https://termbin.com/2e4s
[05:56] <murlidhar> yes i manually selected this distro to boot
[05:56] <EriC^^> murlidhar: type 'sudo grub-install'
[05:57] <murlidhar> is that it?
[05:57] <murlidhar> EriC^^: ^^
[05:57] <murlidhar> it says no error reported and done
[05:57] <EriC^^> then type 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999' again
[05:58] <murlidhar> https://termbin.com/s5nv
[05:59] <EriC^^> nope no dice
[05:59] <EriC^^> murlidhar: type 'sudo ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999'
[05:59] <EriC^^> for some reason it didnt add any new entry to the uefi menu
[05:59] <murlidhar> https://termbin.com/9jek
[06:01] <EriC^^> seems that zorin's efi file is ...ubuntu\shimx64.efi so i guess it might have overwritten the ubuntu one maybe
[06:01] <EriC^^> murlidhar: try rebooting see if it worked
[06:01] <murlidhar> okies
[06:04] <murlidhar> EriC^^: yes. it worked. thanks a lot :)
[06:04] <EriC^^> murlidhar: great, no problem :)
[06:53] <annive1> hello, what is the name of the cleaner tool with UI like ccleaner on windows?
[06:54] <whiskey76> stacer?
[06:56] <annive1> no.
[06:57] <annive1> it can clear firefox or chromium or apt cache and other things of the system with checkboxes.
[06:57] <annive1> QT or gtk app, can't remind the name.
[06:59] <annive1> bleach-bit ok.
[06:59] <annive1> found it back.
[08:12] <Letiute> I have installed freebsd on one disk. Now i want to use raid0 to add another disk. So now my OS will be on 2 disks via raid0. Can I add the second disk in freebsd or I have to reinstall the OS again? note that the OS is disk encrypted via GELI I think. The other disk should be encrypted as well.
[08:14] <oerheks> wrong channel, #freebsd
[08:14] <oerheks> i see you tried in linux too..
[08:15] <Letiute> yes, I am worried about zfs comunity support despite used by linux and bsd
[08:15] <Letiute> I left #linux
[08:16] <oerheks> also #zfs and #openzfs exist on #libera, good luck!
[08:16] <Letiute>  I am worried about freebsd and zfs community support. Not much users as compared to linux
[08:39] <transhumanist> hi! where do I get a linux-kernel that is from testing that has been tested pretty well that is signed? like 6.1.19 or 6.2... for instance
 "hi! where do I get a linux-..." <- You want tested "really well" then you should use whatever is in the official repo.
[08:57] <M-Ira[m]> If you want bleeding edge install the "mainline" tool.
[08:57] <M-Ira[m]> For somewhere in the middle, look at alternative Ubuntu based distros. I run pop!_os and I got 6.2
[09:00] <oerheks> !mainline
[09:00] <oerheks> transhumanist ^^^
[09:56] <pfSenseHelp> I need to use netplan on Ubuntu for the underlying network setup
[09:56] <pfSenseHelp> The requirement is to (ON BOOT) passthru incoming WAN connection on a physical port labelled enp2s0 to guest OS running in KVM. There should be no interaction with WAN on host OS yet, only KVM w/ pfSense OS.
[09:56] <pfSenseHelp> Guest KVM pfSense system needs to receive the incoming WAN connection, obtain an IP address from the WAN, create a local LAN, give itself (the guest) an IP, then feed back a newly created LAN IP to the host OS.
[09:57] <pfSenseHelp> Can anyone help me with netplan for this?
[10:20] <pfSenseHelp> Hello, I am new to this channel, can anyone confirm this is functional?
[10:26] <Habbie> pfSenseHelp, hello
[10:37] <pfSenseHelp> Hello, I am struggling with netplan, I am trying to virtualize a pfsense router
[10:37] <pfSenseHelp> Habbie - Am I asking in a proper forum, or is this more germane to something else?
[10:38] <Habbie> well, how is ubuntu involved in your problem?
[10:40] <oerheks> there is #netplan also
[10:50] <BlueSmoke> Hi I'm running Ubuntu 20.04, in the last week the wired connection stops working randomly, it still says connected and wifi still works, currently, I have to reboot to get it to work again!  Any Idea where to start trying to find out why its happening or If it's a known problem ?    in the meantime is there a way to restart the networking instead
[10:50] <BlueSmoke> of having to do a full reboot
[11:23] <pfSenseHelp> Ubuntu is the base OS, I tried the netplan irc but nobody responded
[11:25] <dsc_> hi, how can I make 'Files' (default file browser) to show thumbnails of videos (.mp4)
[11:25] <dsc_> Files version 40.2
[11:26] <dsc_> or maybe suggest me a better file explorer :)
[11:26] <dsc_> the defualt one really sucks
[11:27] <dsc_> ah, its "nautilus"
[11:28] <oerheks> standard nautilus does that, only on your computer, see nautilus - preferences
[11:29] <oerheks> not network or external drives, AFAIK, but you can change that
[11:29] <dsc_> oerheks: https://plak.infrapuin.nl/selif/s1t0gyr1.png
[11:29] <dsc_> >_>
[11:30] <oerheks> i bet those are youtube mp4 movies?
[11:30] <oerheks> that would be the 1st frame
[11:30] <dsc_> hmm no, they were recorded via OBS
[11:31] <dsc_> mp4, avc1, Lavf58.76.100, 1920x1080
[11:32] <dsc_> oh, you think its the first frame? could be
[11:32] <BlueSmoke> ok I think im connected
[11:32] <BlueSmoke> Hi I'm running Ubuntu 20.04, in the last week the wired connection stops working randomly, it still says connected and wifi still works, currently, I have to reboot to get it to work again!  Any Idea where to start trying to find out why its happening or If it's a known problem ?
[11:36] <oerheks> !info ffmpegthumbnailer
[11:36] <oerheks> dsc_, sorry, i forgot i installed that thumbnailer
[11:39] <supay> hi, ubuntu is unable to detect my external ssd which is formatted to exfat. i've installed exfat-fuse and exfat-utils as well..
[11:42] <supay> oh, brb, i might have disabled this i/o port in my bios to save some power or whatever. stupid me.
[11:45] <oerheks> exfat is now in the kernel, AFAIK
[11:46] <oerheks> 5.7 and up
[11:53] <pfSenseHelp> How do I passthru the network connection in netplan so that it is established on a KVM virtual machine running on the host os?
[11:54] <BlueSmoke> got disconected again grrr
[11:55] <BlueSmoke> Any help on how to find out what is causing it to keep stopping ?
[12:14] <BlueSmoke> How would I find out why my wired connecton stops working? browser says no connection, it still says connected and wifi still works but have to sudo nmcli networking off and then sudo nmcli networking on  to get it working again
[12:17] <supay> oerheks: yeah, sorry, my issues was that i disabled the port at the bios level. ty :)
[12:21] <Guest99> hello im having issue installing ubuntu serverver on a pc
[12:45] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:46] <BlueSmoke> hi
[12:47] <BlueSmoke> How would I find out why my wired connecton stops working? browser says no connection, it still says connected and wifi still works but have to sudo nmcli networking off and then sudo nmcli networking on  to get it working again
[12:48] <tosaraja> Has ubuntu picked along a fix for libvirt where you can't do VMs with 16 VCPUs? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1978489
[12:48] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1978489 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "libvirt / cgroups v2: cannot boot instance with more than 16 CPUs" [Undecided, In Progress]
[12:48] <tosaraja> i've been trying to go through patches to libvirt, but it doesn't look like they have
[12:56] <SteelRose> Hi all! I have a simple question - can you please check https://dpaste.org/pjA0w ?   Thanks!
[12:58] <leftyfb> SteelRose: try #bash
[12:58] <SteelRose> leftyfb: that is bash...
[12:58] <SteelRose> ah OK
[13:01] <BlueSmoke> Wired connetion stopps working randomly in about the last week how do I find out what causes it ?
[13:03] <BlueSmoke> wifi still works and it still says wird connected but all browsers say no internet
[13:03] <taeaad> I have an issue on Ubuntu 22.04. I install the Python dependencies (e.g. here: https://kfields.netlify.app/blog/pyenv_on_ubuntu_22) but when I install Python 3.11 with Pyenv my system complains about missing bz2, tkinter, ncurses, ctypes and lzma.
[13:04] <taeaad> If I try to reinstall Pyenv completely, or recompile (install) Python 3.11 with Pyenv, I still get the same issues.
[13:04] <BlueSmoke> its very frustrating and I dont know where to start to find out whats happening its ubuntu 20.04
[13:05] <Khagesh2409> quit
[13:08] <leftyfb> BlueSmoke: how often does it happen? Can you reproduce it? Did you look through any logs? I would try disabling wired completely and make sure that works on it's own
[13:08] <leftyfb> sorry, make sure wifi works on it's own with wired disabled from the start
[13:09] <oerheks> taeaad, how did you install 3.11? deadsnakes ppa?
[13:12] <taeaad> oerheks: Pyenv.
[13:13] <taeaad> So, from source.
[13:13] <oerheks> and python3 3.11 ?
[13:13] <taeaad> oerheks: Yes. 3.11.2. But I get the same problem with 3.10.x again using Pyenv.
[13:14] <oerheks> basicly it needs several steps, besides just install ..update-alternatives
[13:15] <oerheks> oh and back to 3.10 ?
[13:15] <BlueSmoke> its random no cant just make it happed dont know what logs to look trough.... when it says no internet a tablet can still conect via wifi
[13:15] <taeaad> Pyenv allows concurrent installations. But any version I try to install across 3.10 or 3.11 give those warnings at compile time.
[13:18] <BlueSmoke> I was having to reboot to get it going but found sudo nmcli networking off, and then sudo nmcli networking on  to get it working again
[13:19] <BlueSmoke> its ubuntu 20.04
[13:19] <SnakesAndStuff> Hello, can I get some insight/help on a package that will not uninstall?
[13:19] <leftyfb> BlueSmoke: I would start with disabling wired for a while and make sure wifi works fine on it's own and is stable for a period of time you think wired would have failed
[13:19] <leftyfb> !ask | SnakesAndStuff
[13:20] <SnakesAndStuff> Sorry, I was getting the info to paste.
[13:20] <SnakesAndStuff> and then got distracted looking to see what pastebin here is preferred
[13:21] <BlueSmoke> I dont have wifi on the pc.  I just meant I can conect to the router with a tablet via wifi and it works while the wired connection on the pc is not working
[13:21] <SnakesAndStuff> https://pastebin.com/q26VmCYn
[13:21] <oerheks> taeaad, one needs these dependencies; sudo apt install libbz2-dev libffi-dev liblzma-dev libreadline-dev libsqlite3-dev libssl-dev tk-dev zlib1g-dev
[13:21] <SnakesAndStuff> That is the output of trying to purge a package
[13:22] <oerheks> also, this guide gives a simple script to install, and more steps to configure https://itslinuxfoss.com/install-use-pyenv-ubuntu/
[13:22] <taeaad> oerheks: Yes, I have all of them installed. "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded."
[13:22] <oerheks> 5 not upgraded..
[13:22] <leftyfb> SnakesAndStuff: try --force
[13:23] <oerheks> BlueSmoke, with weird connection issues, check cable, and perhaps reboot your router?
[13:25] <BlueSmoke> rebooted the pc and router several times pulled the cable in and out a few times both ends too  as soon as I do sudo nmcli networking off and then sudo nmcli networking on  to get it working again
[13:25] <SnakesAndStuff> leftyfb: Is there a way to manually examine what is failing though? rather than just force it?
[13:26] <leftyfb> SnakesAndStuff: broken unsupported package
[13:26] <leftyfb> BlueSmoke: this could verywell be a bad cable or port. If the cable is bad, it could lose connection for a moment and restarting networking would get you back online
[13:27] <taeaad> oerheks: I don't think they are the issue, but let me try to autoremove and then upgrade again.
[13:27] <leftyfb> BlueSmoke: I would try wiggling the cable along it's entire length to see if it drops. Maybe run this in your terminal and watch:  sudo dmesg -TW
[13:28] <oerheks> taeaad, as you gave no info what is held back..
[13:29] <BlueSmoke> its a long cable and I dont have a second one to try it so if I wiggle it while its on and see if its cuts out is about the best I can do on that but I dont feel like it would be the cable is there any log I can chack to see if some sofware made it happen
[13:29] <taeaad> oerheks: https://bpa.st/YQ44Q
[13:30] <taeaad> I autoremoved and then ran apt with the libraries you mentioned.
[13:30] <oerheks> apt list --upgradable
[13:31] <BlueSmoke> oh I was typing about checking that cable befor I saw what you wrote ok let me try that command
[13:31] <taeaad> oerheks: https://bpa.st/AM7J6
[13:32] <oerheks> oke, those are not related, still you can install them manually.
[13:33] <taeaad> No idea what is wrong?
[13:34] <oerheks> !phased
[13:34] <oerheks> no worries
[13:37] <taeaad> OK, let me try 3.9 and see if it works.
[13:37] <oerheks> ehm, bad idea, stick to 3.10
[13:38] <taeaad> oerheks: OK, but I can't install it?
[13:42] <BlueSmoke> so should I start be unplugging the ethernet cable and pluging it back in to see what im looking out for, then do the stop start then look for that msg in that dmesg log again after wiggling it
[13:44] <leftyfb> BlueSmoke: nobody suggested unplugging the cable at all. We're trying to diagnose a problem with the cable. You run the command in your terminal which will watch the kernel logs in realtime while you wiggle the cable(slowly, not fast) and see if anything pops up in the log
[13:45] <BlueSmoke> I only said about unplugging and plugging it back in first to see what sort of msg id be looking for then star fresh and do the slow wiggling
[14:24] <taeaad> oerheks: Sorry, I had connection problems. Any further ideas why it can't pick up the installed libraries?
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> taeaad: oerheks linked you the phased updates, is that whats happening to you?
[14:26] <oerheks> !phased
[14:27] <oerheks> oke, those are not related ( to python3) , still you can install them manually.
[14:29] <taeaad> I updated the packages that I could, but they are not Python related. My issue seems to be something else. I have bz2, tkinter, ncurses, ctypes and lzma but only my system Python can see those packages. Any Python version that I install across 3.9.x, 3.10.x and 3.11.x give me errors that those libraries could not be found. The phased updates would make sense; these problems I have started with the last couple of updates, I suspect.
[14:29] <taeaad> But what can I do about it?
[14:29] <taeaad> (All using Pyenv.)
[14:31] <oerheks> i gave you 2 urls for pyenv, and howto install and set them correctly. as pyenv is not supported, no clue.
[14:31] <taeaad> OK.
[14:31] <oerheks> basicly one should stay on 3.10...
[14:31] <taeaad> Thank you for the help.
[14:32] <oerheks> try a fresh VM ?
[14:33] <taeaad> I think I will have to.
[14:34] <oerheks> i would, when messing with python
[14:44] <iomari891> greetings. How can I tell notify-send to stop popping up a message that I have already closed. eg: a down server will continue to notify as long as it's down.
[14:49] <leftyfb> iomari891: you change the script you wrote that calls notify-send to not message you as much
[15:13] <iomari891> leftyfb: the script just pings the servers and the ones that are down are sent to notify-send.
[15:14] <leftyfb> iomari891: ok, so make it only notify you once
[15:15] <leftyfb> iomari891: this has nothing to do with ubuntu and everything to do with your custom script. It's not even a problem with notify-send. It's your script notifying you every interval that some check has failed
[15:16] <leftyfb> iomari891: notify-send has no mechanism to determine if you "have already closed" a message, including informing your script
[15:16] <leftyfb> iomari891: in this context, treat notify-send as you would echo
[15:59] <Linke> How do private ppas work exactly?
[16:08] <jhutchins> Linke: Well, first you have to fill the boiler with water.  Then build a small pile of kindling, with some larger sticks handy to add.
[16:09] <leftyfb> Linke: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[16:09] <leftyfb> jhutchins: unnecessary
[16:09] <jhutchins> leftyfb: You're no fun.
[16:10] <Linke> Should I even bother with a ppa or just make a private snap package instead? leftyfb.
[16:11] <leftyfb> Linke: since you've provided no context, I can't answer that.
[16:12] <Linke> leftyfb, there's a few GTK2/3/4 patches I want to apply, but since some packages (like firefox) are snaps only 22.04 and later, not sure which route I should take.
[16:12] <oerheks> a snap can be run on other linux versions.
[16:29] <thes_real> aiiio
[16:31] <thes_real> aii boiz how r u?????
[16:31] <thes_real> type /join #thes_real to jion me channel
[16:31] <leftyfb> !ot | thes_real
[17:12] <peacefulman> cryptsetup needs more than 1 gig of ram? o_O
[17:18] <oerheks> peacefulman, yes, is that weird?
[17:18] <leftyfb> peacefulman: https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[17:18] <oerheks> basicly 64 bit desktop needs 4 gb.
[17:18] <peacefulman> sorry, this is ubuntu-server
[17:18] <peacefulman> I wonder now what the min is for that
[17:19]  * peacefulman googles
[17:19] <oerheks>  RAM: 1 gigabyte or more. Disk: a minimum of 2.5 gigabytes.
[17:20] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/installation
[17:21] <peacefulman> thanks oerheks
[17:21] <oerheks> have fun!
[17:23] <peacefulman> I just mistakenly assumed this image could run in the cloud well with only like 512mb
[17:23] <peacefulman> I guess it's just cryptsetup thats holding it back
[17:25] <alkisg> peacefulman: you can minimize the initramfs and get to boot with less RAM by using MODULES=dep in the initramfs configuration
[17:26] <alkisg> grep -r MODULES /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
[17:26] <alkisg> /plain # MODULES: [ most | netboot | dep | list ]
[17:28] <peacefulman> cool thanks alkisg I'll give that a shot
[17:30] <leftyfb> peacefulman: I hope you have out of band access to this OS because you could potentially kill your network by limiting the modules that get loaded
[17:31] <alkisg> dep is supposed to include all modules for the given hardware (or VM)
[17:31] <peacefulman> yeah it's just a local vm
[17:31] <alkisg> An update-initramfs -u is needed after editing that file
[17:48] <Guest4246> how to share linux mint files to windows 10 files on LAN
[17:48] <leftyfb> !mint | Guest4246
[18:17] <backbox> hello
[18:17] <backbox> i need to run snort on my system
[18:19] <leftyfb> backbox: sudo apt install snort
[18:40] <noarb> is it possible to add custom data to a snap package downloaded the snap store? For example, adding python scripts. I can give access to removable-media interface, then the snap can read data from /mnt and /media on the host machine. Is there some other way to add an overlayfs or something?
[18:40] <leftyfb> noarb: I don't think so. But try asking in #snappy
[18:40] <noarb> leftyfb: ok, thanks
[19:05] <murpf> hello
[19:05] <oerheks> :-)
[19:06] <KalleAnka> noarb, if you mean making a custom location available to the snap, then yes, you can do that with bind mounts.
[19:07] <oerheks> i think he asks for snap permissions, those are in gnome settings > applications > app
[19:08] <oerheks> custom confinement*
[19:09] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/docs/snap-confinement and some more https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68565756/cannot-install-code-classic-confinement-requires-snaps-under-snap-or-symlink
[19:11] <KalleAnka> noarb, say you have a network filesystem mounted on /net/home/noarb, which your snap cannot access, then you can "mkdir /home/noab/netshares/" and then to "sudo mount --bind /net/home/noab /home/noab/netshares" to allow snaps to access the net shares.
[19:11] <KalleAnka> sorry for misspelling your nick. :)
[19:16] <KalleAnka> oerheks, AppArmor rules is based on paths, so as long as you make a location available where the confined snap has access to it, it's all ok.
[19:16] <KalleAnka> one of the reasons why mount requires root. :)
[19:17] <leftyfb> KalleAnka: lots of troubleshooting around an unclarified issue that the OP still hasn't even addressed it #snapp yet (they didn't even bother /join'ing)
[19:18] <KalleAnka> leftyfb, :)
[19:19] <leftyfb> bah, I have a bad habit of doing too many things at once and not being thorough with my typing :)
[19:29] <syphyr> I have ubuntu pro with extended support, but I cannot seem to download source files.. only the binaries. Failed to fetch https://esm.ubuntu.com/apps/ubuntu/pool/main/f/ffmpeg/ffmpeg_3.4.11-0ubuntu0.1+esm1.debian.tar.xz  401  Unauthorized
[19:29] <syphyr> is there something I can do to fix this?
[19:31] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1454409/where-do-i-get-the-source-for-esm-packages
[19:31] <oerheks> syphyr ^^^
[19:33] <syphyr> thanks
[19:34] <syphyr> just had to use "sudo"
[19:34] <syphyr> that was simple
[19:34] <syphyr> :-
[19:34] <oerheks> have fun!
[19:36] <syphyr> weird how the binaries dont need that, just the src
[19:37] <Habbie> you installed the binaries without sudo? :>
[19:37] <syphyr> yah you are right
[20:17] <esv> strange
[20:23] <pfSenseHelp> Help... at 7:50 this guy leaves out a crucial step in setting up networking... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amTJHm19ts0
[20:23] <pfSenseHelp> How does he get the bridge to show up in KVM... no matter what I try it does not show up
[20:24] <blahboybaz> Is there a way (using apt) to check if a specific package is up to date? I have a handful of packages that were installed in different ways but I don't recall which. I'm concerned whether some package I've installed is really up to date, whether it was installed using apt; and, if not, how it was installed, and if it needs update how to do that.
[20:25] <blahboybaz> For me it id everything Docker and Docker Compose that I want to make sure about
[20:26] <leftyfb> blahboybaz: apt-cache policy <package name>
[20:38] <blahboybaz> leftyfb: cool..  It looks to me like it was installed via apt (ie: using a repository) with the following lines appearing at the end of the output: `500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe amd64 Packages` and `500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe i386 Packages` - is that a correct interpretation?
[20:38] <leftyfb> blahboybaz: maybe paste the entire output to a pastebin site
[20:39] <blahboybaz> leftyfb: ok
[20:41] <blahboybaz> leftyfb: https://dpaste.org/mxoNJ
[20:42] <leftyfb> the package named "docker" is not installed on your system
[20:45] <blahboybaz> leftyfb: oh but it is
[20:45] <blahboybaz> I have been using it frequently
[20:45] <leftyfb> blahboybaz: not from apt it's not
[20:46] <leftyfb> blahboybaz: though you might actually be referring to the "docker.io" package
[20:47] <leftyfb> blahboybaz: the "docker" package is only "a transitional package for system tray docking application" and probably not what you're looking for, which is the package called "docker.io"
[20:47] <blahboybaz> leftyfb: https://dpaste.org/Q2fKi  <--  but I have an appointment in like 10 min I have to get ready for. I didn't think it would take time to address that question. Can I return later and see if you are around?
[20:48] <leftyfb> blahboybaz: again, you're probably referring to the "docker.io" package which installs docker, not the "docker" package which does not install docker
[20:48] <blahboybaz> leftyfb: https://dpaste.org/zw3Uw
[20:49] <blahboybaz> I gotta run for a bit tho. I'll look for you again later bro
[20:49] <blahboybaz> thanks
[20:49] <leftyfb> ok, then you didn't install docker from apt at all then
[21:30] <pfSenseHelp> I created a bridge in Network Manager, but in QEMU / KVM it does not show up.  What do I have to do so the new bridge is visible in NetworkManager?
[21:38] <leftyfb> pfSenseHelp: can I ask, are you creating VM's in KVM that require a GUI?
[21:43] <pfSenseHelp> LeftyB ... No, its a pfsense vm that runs as a router. It has a web ui, but otherwise no.
[21:44] <leftyfb> pfSenseHelp: might I recommend just using LXD over kvm?
[21:45] <leftyfb> pfSenseHelp: sudo snap install lxd && sudo lxd init && lxc launch ubuntu:22.04 my-pfsense-server
[21:51] <pfSenseHelp> leftyfb, interesting, let me research this a minute
[21:52] <pfSenseHelp> so this is an alternative to KVM, how does it solve the bridge problem?
[21:53] <leftyfb> pfSenseHelp: managing the configs for lxd are a lot easier as is creating containers. You can also manage kvm vm's with lxd if needed
[22:01] <tomreyn> pfSenseHelp: nmcli  should actually list your bridge. but i'm not sure you actually asked the question you meant to ask.
[22:02] <pfSenseHelp> leftyb, thank you, let me research
[22:02] <tomreyn> i assume you want the bridge to show up on whatever tooling you use to manage qemu/kvm rather?
[22:04] <pfSenseHelp> tomreyn: I ran nmcli and I do see the bridge I created and shows connected, I also see the NIC connected to bridge0 ... looks ok ... but in KVM Network Manager, cant see bridge, why not?
[22:05] <pfSenseHelp> In this tutorial he connects the virtual to the bridge, but on my environment, I dont see the bridge.  Time marked link at 7:50 so u see what I mean https://youtu.be/amTJHm19ts0?t=471
[22:19] <CeeClear> ollo
[22:20] <CeeClear> support question about burning DVD's
[22:23] <arraybolt3> CeeClear: Yeah, how can we help?
[22:24] <CeeClear> Well I just got a new Blu Ray/DVD Burner and updated to Ubuntu 20:04 to solve a problem with burning ISO's Still getting error messages and unable to burn
[22:25] <arraybolt3> CeeClear: Can you share the exact error message you're getting? Large chunks of text can be pasted into dpa.st, screenshots can be uploaded to Imgur or imgbb. Please don't paste large amounts of text into the chat, sharing links is fine.
[22:25] <CeeClear> sure
[22:27] <CeeClear> dpa.st correct ??
[22:28] <arraybolt3> Yes.
[22:29] <CeeClear> tried to access it got a We are having a problem finding that site message
[22:29] <arraybolt3> Argh, bpa.st I mean.
[22:29] <arraybolt3> (dpaste.com and bpa.st got confused in my brain.)
[22:30] <CeeClear> OK. No problem
[22:30] <CeeClear> https://bpa.st/CZRNS
[22:31] <WeeBey> Hi! Question out of curiosity... It's normal to see the OS take longer to boot after the laptop was off over night than when I just do a reboot mid day?
[22:31] <WeeBey> Just wondering if I'm imagining things. :)
[22:32] <CeeClear> and just now after upgrading to ubuntu 20. https://bpa.st/KBTTU
[22:33] <arraybolt3> CeeClear: I think that "sense key" error you're getting means "LBA out of range", which I *think* probably means you're trying to write more data to the disk than it can hold?
[22:33] <arraybolt3> How big is your disk, and how much data are you trying to write? Some disks are grumpy if you try to fill them all the way up.
[22:35] <CeeClear> the disk is a 4.7 -r nd the file is 4.7 as well.
[22:35] <CeeClear> I found this while researching this particular error
[22:35] <CeeClear> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqBRKC4U3t0
[22:39] <seafork> 'ello! I was wondering if there was a way to install Gnome 3 (as a binary) on the latest Ubuntu release?
[22:39] <arraybolt3> CeeClear: If the disk and file are the same size, that may very well be the problem.
[22:40] <CeeClear> I would agree but I have also tried it with smaller Files and had the same problem and error message
[22:41] <CeeClear> I will try it with a 1.3 GB File right now to test that idea.
[22:41] <arraybolt3> You could also just have a buggy drive. From what I've read, some optical drives just don't work like they should, or at least that used to be the case.
[22:42] <CeeClear> This Drive is literally new
[22:42] <CeeClear> I could understand that for the other drive I replaced but I just upgraded my os and have a new drive
[22:43] <arraybolt3> Just because something's new doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't have problems baked in by the manufacturer on accident.
[22:43] <CeeClear> possible. But this is a acknowledged Bug in Ubuntu.
[22:44] <CeeClear> I will try the reccomended fix from Youtube and let y'all know if it works
[22:44] <arraybolt3> You could try using a different burning software? I use K3B usually. It's KDE software so it will pull in a lot of dependencies, but it might work.
[22:46] <CeeClear> I have tried it with k3b and other burning software before it didn't work. so before I go down that road again. I will try the quick terminal fix and see if that works.
[22:51] <Floating4> I was logged in before as #pfsense help... are the folks helping still around?
[22:51] <Floating4> I was kicked off several times and was only able to get back on now
[23:00] <jonez> greetings. I'm having trouble upgrading my machine because of a broken usrmerge package. Is there any way I can remove that package from the do-release-upgrade process?
[23:01] <moonmoon> Floating4: I scrolled up to see your context and skimmed it (very) briefly. I think where you might be getting confused about networking inside of the VM vs networking inside of the hypervisor -- they're basically separate things
[23:02] <CeeClear> ollo
[23:02] <moonmoon> if you pass through physical nics from the machine to a vm, the hypervisor isn't going to automatically know how your vm configured it or what it did with it (it could find out if it really wanted to)
[23:03] <moonmoon> meanwhile if you configure physical devices in the hypervisor and expose it to the vm as a virtual nic, the vm isn't going to see what you did at the hypervisor level and just pretends like it has its own physical device dedicated to it
[23:06] <lovetruth> I see... here you help with ubuntu 18.04 too?...
[23:08] <Bashing-om> lovetruth: We support 18.04 for 2 1/2 move months :)
[23:08] <leftyfb> lovetruth: 18.04 is supported for only another 33 dayss
[23:08] <Bashing-om> more*
[23:08] <leftyfb> 33 days
[23:09] <leftyfb> April 30th is the last day
[23:09] <leftyfb> lovetruth: you should really take this time to upgrade to 22.04
[23:09] <jonez> greetings... about that :)
[23:10] <lovetruth> I found a server somewhere (everything's upgraded, but not the ubuntu version) - a server that has still ubuntu 18.04
[23:10] <jonez> I've attempted to upgrade from 18 to 20 to 22 twice, both times I had a problem with a package called 'usrmerge'
[23:11] <lovetruth> I was thinking to upgrade first to 20.04... (it runs Zimbra 8.8.15) You think it's safe to upgrade directly to 22?...
[23:11] <Floating4> moonmoon: thank you... so how do you bridge the two, the physical and virtual.  I thought it was in the KVM config where you connect the physical bridge to the VM... but it does not populate in the drop down like that video
[23:11] <guiverc> lovetruth, Ubuntu releases upgrade to the next release (18.04 to 18.10) OR the next LTS (ie. 18.04 to 20.04) only
[23:12] <moonmoon> Floating4: maybe I'm the confused one here. Did you define your bridge on the host/hypervisor or the vm?
[23:12]  * guiverc adds 18.04 to 18.10 release-upgraded ended when 18.10 reached EOL; so only 18.04 to 20.04 now exists as for QA tested & supported upgrade paths
[23:13] <Floating4> On the host, on nmcli I see the bridge active and has the LAN IP
[23:13] <moonmoon> ah ok
[23:14] <Floating4> but for the life of me, it will not populate in the KVM admin conole so I can connect the two
[23:20] <moonmoon> Floating4: kvm is not my area of expertise unfortunately (thought it was something simpler than it turned out to be!), but from reading online I'm seeing mentions that the bridge needs to be enabled/up, so check on that perhaps?
[23:21] <Floating4> moonmoon: bridge is up
[23:24] <Floating4> moonmoon: appreciate you trying, its a rather narrow problem
[23:46] <WJC42> How do I hot-plug SATA drives? I am using Kubuntu 22.04. I run sudo dmesg -w and it does give me a notification when I plug in the drive, but I don't see it show up  when I sudo fdisk -l nor do I see it in the list of devices inside KDE partition manager.
[23:50] <ravage> https://leo.leung.xyz/wiki/How_to_hot-swap_SATA_disks_on_Linux
[23:52] <blahboybaz> leftyfb: You still around?
[23:52] <leftyfb> blahboybaz: ?
[23:52] <blahboybaz> Sorry about earlier - I thought it would be faster
[23:53] <blahboybaz> leftyfb: so dpkg -l shows some docker stuff but snap list does not.. https://dpaste.org/qtHcB
[23:54] <blahboybaz> I thought I would have installed a repo and installed it that way
[23:54] <blahboybaz> iirc
[23:54] <leftyfb> blahboybaz: apt-cache policy docker-ce
[23:55] <leftyfb> blahboybaz: docker-ce is not a supported ubuntu package
[23:57] <blahboybaz> leftyfb: what is that supposed to mean?
[23:57] <leftyfb> blahboybaz: it means you installed it from a 3rd party repo and any support issues related to the package should be directed to the 3rd party vendor
[23:58] <blahboybaz> wow
[23:58] <blahboybaz> 👍
[23:58] <blahboybaz> thanks
[23:59] <blahboybaz> And when I'm tolk in #docker that they don't support ubuntu and to go somewhere else.. then what?
[23:59] <leftyfb> blahboybaz: you have yet to explain any issue so far