[00:02] <Eickmeyer> morgan-acer: Google chrome or chromium?
[01:05] <jhutchins> morgan-acer: Somehow, even after your experience, you have a beief in a universal platform on which an application can successfully function.
[01:05] <jhutchins> morgan-acer: Hardware varies.  Even for the same chip from the same factory of the same manufacturer.  It varies.
[01:06] <jhutchins> morgan-acer: Perhaps once we get AI working well enough we will be able to write code that always works perfecty on ALL hardware platforms.
[01:06] <jhutchins> morgan-acer: I doubt it.
[01:07] <jhutchins> I've told clients "'fixed' is expensive enough.  There's no way you can afford 'why'".
[02:26] <sowson> hello, do you know why amd instinct mi25 gpu does not work with latest and previous drivers on ubuntu server? The amdgpu is blacklisted in modules. Do you know how to enable it? When I install and remove from blacklist a lot of errors are in dmsg like related with firware. This machine is in Azure Cloud. Can someone help me?
[03:06] <Guest73> they stamp https://singlelogin.me as library of the world ... . congrats to all author ... .
[03:19] <morgan-acer> jhutchins, i appreciate your statement about Fixed and Why.
[03:46] <BillingMeSoftly> hi
[03:46] <BillingMeSoftly> why does firefox not start all of a sudden?
[03:46] <BillingMeSoftly> I run strace on it, and find that it gets stuck waiting in loops of  "futex(0x557f6c1e7e08, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 0, NULL) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:46] <BillingMeSoftly> futex(0x557f6c1e7e08, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 0, NULL) = 0"
[05:08] <akik> hi, i read that rtkit-daemon's purpose is to give processes realtime scheduling privileges. how do i use it to do the same from shell?
[05:10] <akik> now i use chrt for that purpose but i need to run chrt with sudo
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> hmm, im getting an update-manager popup the software has been updated, without having actual updates pulled neither GUI or via apt, that shouldnt be happening?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> on 22.04 desktop
[05:18] <akik> wow i asked bing ai the same question, and it told me to use rtkitctl
[05:19] <akik> "rtkitctl --no-privilege --activate-cmd='chrt -r -p 99 %p' --deactivate-cmd='chrt -r -p 0 %p' -p 1234"
[05:20] <akik> so as not needing me to run chrt or schedtool with sudo
[05:46] <akik> bing ai's suggestion for rtkitctl was a total failure. the command doesn't even have those options :)
[05:52] <matrixy> it must not be that smart
[06:21] <|8lurry|> hi, me using ubuntu 22 LTS. I am trying to set the pin entry app for gpg-agent to pinentry-tty. it seems to be not working, i did update-alternatives --config pinentry
[06:21] <|8lurry|> any suggestions
[06:28] <eax_> Blurry: what's your gpg agent
[07:02] <kingrino74> ciao
[07:02] <UndrWater> adios
[07:32] <bluejaypop> hello, i just did a fresh install of ubuntu 22.04 LTS on a lenovo thinkpad x1 nano gen 2, and my screen is flickering randomly, it seems something is not ok with the video drivers or some kernel bug, is this a reported bug already?
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> bluejaypop: wich kernel version are you on currently?
[07:33] <bluejaypop> 5.19.0-35-generic #36~22.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Feb 17 15:17:25 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> the intel flickering bug should not occur anymore on 5.19, so we can rule that one out bluejaypop
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> bluejaypop: check sudo lshw -C video to see if driver picked up?
[07:36] <bluejaypop> http://pastie.org/p/6Ns3lYzLUmkPFPuZR5LQrP
[07:36] <akik> lotuspsychje: what is the intel flickering bug?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> driver=i915
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> driver seems to be loaded
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> akik: bug #1958191
[07:37] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 1958191 in linux-hwe-5.19 (Ubuntu) "[i915] Screen flickering in Ubuntu 22.04 (until i915.enable_dc=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=2 are added) (fixed in 5.17.7 and later)" [High, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1958191
[07:37] <akik> when i had some issues with the intel graphics, i changed from the modesetting xorg driver to the intel xorg driver
[07:37] <akik> never looked back
[07:38] <bluejaypop> ok, let me try
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> bluejaypop: your flickering would need a deeper investigation
[07:38] <akik> but this was on my old acer i3 laptop
[07:38] <bluejaypop> ok
[07:38] <akik> you have a brand spanking new x1 :)
[07:38] <bluejaypop> yeah :)
[07:41] <bluejaypop> [  463.120512] thinkpad_acpi: unhandled HKEY event 0x131a ... [  463.120522] thinkpad_acpi: please report the conditions when this event happened to ibm-acpi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
[07:41] <bluejaypop> touche!
[07:46] <bluejaypop> well.. same is happening even that I added i915.enable_dc=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=2 in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> bluejaypop: on 5.19 thats not needed anymore
[07:47] <bluejaypop> oh, gotcha
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> bluejaypop: maybe its lenovo only related, you could try a bios/firmware update
[07:51] <akik> bluejaypop: there's this kernel parameter acpi_osi= that you could try to change
[07:51] <akik> bluejaypop: as your error message says thinkpad_acpi
[07:52] <akik> bluejaypop: https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[08:20] <akik> huh? there's a bug in the ubuntu 22.04.2 mate installer. it formats the existing 1GiB efi esp /dev/sda1 so that when mounted, it shows up as a 1MiB partition and grub-install then fails with being unable to run
[08:21] <akik> if i mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1 and mount it, it shows as 1GiB partition/filesystem
[09:06] <gast180323> hello
[09:54] <akik> the ubuntu installer in uefi mode wants to use secure boot and maybe some combination made that efi esp 1MiB. not that i was able to install in uefi mode with secure boot, the problem is gone
[09:54] <akik> and i mkfs the efi esp before the installer
[10:28] <BillingMeSoftly> Hello, I'm on Kubuntu 22.10 and did an apt-get dist-upgrade in the last couple of days.  Why does firefox not start all of a sudden?
[10:28] <BillingMeSoftly> I run strace on it, and find that it gets stuck waiting in loops of  "futex(0x557f6c1e7e08, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 0, NULL) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:28] <BillingMeSoftly> futex(0x557f6c1e7e08, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 0, NULL) = 0"
[10:28] <respawn> BillingMeSoftly: use dpaste.org for more than 3 lines
[10:29] <BillingMeSoftly> ok
[10:29] <BillingMeSoftly> thanks respawn
[10:29] <respawn> try opening in terminal
[10:29] <BillingMeSoftly> will do going forwrad.
[10:29] <BillingMeSoftly> respawn: I did, it just hangs there
[10:29] <respawn> and see what error do you get
[10:29] <BillingMeSoftly> doesn't display any info
[10:29] <BillingMeSoftly> that's why I ran strace on it
[10:29] <BillingMeSoftly> it just hangs at that futex() call
[10:30] <BillingMeSoftly> and it also displays "futex(0x557f6c1e7368, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 0, {tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=100000}) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[10:30] <BillingMeSoftly> chromium also exhibits this
[10:31] <BillingMeSoftly> I haven't run strace on chromium's startup, but it also just hangs there at the command line
[10:31] <respawn> yu upgraded from what to 22.10
[10:31] <BillingMeSoftly> ok, I just ran strace on chromium-browser, and it also hangs at a similar  futex() call
[10:31] <BillingMeSoftly> respawn from 22.04.  This just happened a couple of days ago
[10:32] <BillingMeSoftly> I upgraded to 22.10 a few monhs ago though
[10:32] <respawn> hm why upgrading from 22.04 that is lts to non lts 22.10
[10:32] <BillingMeSoftly> I mean I've been running apt-get update & apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:33] <BillingMeSoftly> so in the lsat apt-get dist-upgrade from a few days ago, this started happening
[10:33] <respawn> you know you have totaly fine gui update manager
[10:33] <BillingMeSoftly> yeah
[10:33] <BillingMeSoftly> I mean I just do it from command-line
[10:34] <respawn> you can but you did dist upgrade so it meesed it up
[10:35] <BillingMeSoftly> yes correct
[10:35] <respawn> so if you have snapshot to return to before that happend
[10:38] <respawn> helping some Noobs in Ubuntu Channel
[10:45] <BillingMeSoftly> respawn:yeah Ishould have the snapshot..how do I revert?
[10:46] <respawn> it should be in the menu snapshot app open it and return to state on date before that
[10:46] <BillingMeSoftly> ok... which app?
[10:46] <BillingMeSoftly> I'm on kubuntu btw.
[10:47] <respawn> i know
[10:49] <respawn> timeshift
[10:49] <respawn> or systemback
[10:50] <respawn> BillingMeSoftly: https://www.google.com/search?q=kubuntu+system+restore+default&biw=1366&bih=606&sxsrf=AJOqlzVJRxPwB9pleOMEj_hhPohooK7k1w%3A1679136539546&ei=G5cVZNH4IMmJ9u8P0JGt0A8&ved=0ahUKEwiR8t-Hp-X9AhXJhP0HHdBIC_oQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=kubuntu+system+restore+default&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCCEQoAEyBQghEKABOgoIABBHENYEELADOgYIABAWEB46CggAEBYQHhAPEAo6CAghEBYQHhAdOgQIIRAVOgcIIRCgARAKSgQIQRgAUMEFWIMXYLkYaAFwAHgAgAHGAYgB3wmSAQMwLjiYAQCgAQHIAQjAAQE&sclien
[10:50] <respawn> t=gws-wiz-serp
[10:50] <BillingMeSoftly> ok
[10:51] <BillingMeSoftly> ok thank you respawn
[10:51] <BillingMeSoftly> if I get a browser working, I'll look that up
[10:52] <BillingMeSoftly> respawn: timeshift says no snapshots found :P
[10:52] <BillingMeSoftly> Status : No snapshots on this device
[10:53] <BillingMeSoftly> (I just intsalled it now)
[10:53] <BillingMeSoftly> btw will bbiab
[10:53] <respawn> or you can backup and reinstall
[10:54] <respawn> 22.10 end of life is 	July 2023
[10:55] <respawn> so better use 22.04 that is lts
[10:57] <Unit193> ...So wait, the question is "How do I fix this crash?" and you're already at "reinstall"?
[11:01] <tomreyn> BillingMeSoftly: have you tried to remove and reinstall firefox?
[11:01] <respawn> read up
[11:02] <tomreyn> i believe i did, and it wasn't discussed, did i miss it?
[11:02] <Unit193> chromium and firefox, it's likely under it.  If they're bot snaps, perhaps something in there?
[11:02] <Unit193> Both, rather.
[11:04] <respawn> he did upgrade from 22.04 to 22.10
[11:05] <tomreyn> meaning?
[11:05] <respawn> from lts to non lts
[11:06] <tomreyn> yes, this doesn't mean that web browsers no longer work, though, right?
[11:07] <tomreyn> not a reason to reinstall anyways, unless there is a preference for LTS and this decision was unintentional / uninformed.
[11:21] <pickanick> I'm confused by the Ubuntu documentation, there is Ubuntu Pro and Ubuntu Advantage, what is the difference?
[11:22] <tomreyn> "Ubuntu Advantage for Infrastructure is now rebranded to Ubuntu Pro (Infra-only). The features and price have not changed. " https://ubuntu.com/pro
[11:23] <tomreyn> !canonical
[11:23] <tomreyn> oh i meant to point out that these are commercial offerings and you'd best talk to their sales folks to get what you need.
[11:24] <tomreyn> 'although there is a free tier
[11:32] <Floating4> Can an ubuntu box be made to strictly "forward" an internet connection to, thus becoming a WAN?  I have a stupid situation, this is an option to solve it.  Nobody supports the drivers of my NIC, just ubuntu (or flindows) so is this a reasonable thing to do?  Or what?
[11:34] <tomreyn> you can configure it as a router, optionally with NAT and port forwarding, if that's what you're asking
[11:34] <tomreyn> which NIC does you have there?
[11:35] <tomreyn> *do
[11:38] <Floating4> i'm not asking that tomreyn, but I tried like hell to do it
[11:38] <Floating4> its an asus xg-c100c
[11:39] <Floating4> I just want the internet connection to come in via this card, then directly out a 10G optical port on the same machine, thus becoming a passthru.... I can stick a router on the 10G optical port, then all works as I want! Sorta!
[11:42] <tomreyn> so that's a bridge setup, i guess
[11:43] <ravage> Floating4: try #networking
[11:44] <Floating4> Its as simple as a bridge tomreyn?
[11:44] <Floating4> ravage will do, thanks
[11:47] <tomreyn> Floating4: well, it dpends on whether the optical network device will work in this configuration, i guess. but generally speaking this setup, if uncommon, should be possible, i would think.
[11:48] <tomreyn> it's also possible that what you really lack is just an optical module / transceiver
[11:49] <Floating4> tomreyn -- I lack my wifes willingness to spend $800 on a card
[12:05] <hiya> Ubuntu non-LTS is released every 6 months but not always, how come?
[12:06] <hiya> Ubuntu LTS has a persistent 2y release cycle like Debian Stable
[12:06] <hiya> Can someone help me understand? Why is it yearly sometimes?
[12:06] <ravage> it is never yearly
[12:07] <ravage> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[12:07] <hiya> oh I see the problem now
[12:07] <hiya> when it is time for LTS
[12:07] <EriC^^> hiya: it goes 18.04 (lts) 18.10 19.04 19.10 20.04 (lts)
[12:07] <hiya> that is also counted
[12:07] <hiya> yes
[12:07] <hiya> Like 19.10 to 20.10 took 1y
[12:08] <hiya> so non-LTS can be 1y gap, if LTS comes in between
[12:09] <tomreyn> well but you still don't get a full year of support
[12:10] <tomreyn> (on 19.10 in this example)
[12:10] <hiya> so tomreyn what does a non-LTS guy do then?
[12:10] <hiya> After 9 months?
[12:10] <ravage> update to the lts release
[12:10] <EriC^^> hiya: what's the difference between non-lts and 20.04 in that case?
[12:11] <EriC^^> you're fixating on titles
[12:11] <hiya> hehe, what if he is too stubborn and doesn't want LTS?
[12:11] <ogra> then that user needs to update every 6 months ...
[12:11] <ravage> then you will run a release without updates and will probably have to reinstall after a while
[12:11] <hiya> hmm
[12:12] <EriC^^> hiya: 20.04 would have newer software than the 19.10 .. it's a "non-lts" if you want
[12:12] <hiya> True, I am shocked to know that Debian is only supported for 3y vs 5y in LTS Ubuntu
[12:12] <ogra> you can pick your update stragtegy in the settings ... either LTS to LTS or non-LTS to non-LTS ... once the upgrade path you picked has a new release available it will be offered to you automatically
[12:12] <hiya> I mean standard support + Security
[12:13] <hiya> Ubuntu LTS is solid for years now
[12:13] <hiya> Even Ubuntu 18.04 LTS has one more month left before end of the support
[12:13] <ravage> hiya: what is your actual support question now?
[12:13] <hiya> 20.04 and 22.04 has come after that
[12:13] <ravage> if you want to talk about Ubuntu in general use #ubuntu-discuss please
[12:14] <hiya> ravage: question is why doesn't Ubuntu loan OEM kernel by default when it detects a supported certified hardware?
[12:14] <hiya> load*
[12:15] <ravage> your OEM manufacturer should do that for you
[12:15] <hiya> Esp. when Ubuntu puts so much of work into OEM kernel and hardware certification
[12:15] <hiya> I read about it and it is no easy process and helps whole Linux community with general component support for GNU Linux
[12:15] <hiya> my laptop came with no OS :(
[12:15] <hiya> What to do
[12:16] <ravage> install an OS
[12:17] <hiya> Of course I did, latest LTS + c version of OEM kernel
[12:17] <hiya> all the issues that were on 22.10 are slowed
[12:17] <ravage> great
[12:17] <hiya> solved*
[12:18] <hiya> One real question, does OEM kernel package auto-update?
[12:18] <hiya> like other packages?
[12:18] <oerheks> 'real'?
[12:18] <hiya> I have no idea about it. For other topics I knew little, was just confirming
[12:20] <ravage> hiya: all packages from the ubuntu archives get updates
[12:21] <hiya> Wow. Great!
[12:36] <pickanick> If Dell hardware can come with windows or ubuntu, but came with Windows, how to get the OEM kernel? Dell support says they only provide Windows.
[12:37] <tomreyn> oem kernels are available from the default ubuntu repositories
[12:38] <pickanick> do you mean they can be requested by apt ?
[12:38] <tomreyn> but oem iso / install images can be customized. and if you bought the windows model you probably have no access to dell's ubuntu iso.
[12:39] <tomreyn> yes, you can install oem kernels using apt
[12:39] <pickanick> Correct I did not anticipate they would say "No Ubuntu for you!"
[12:39] <tomreyn> well, they do, in terms of the ISO
[12:40] <tomreyn> another question you'll want to answer is "is the -oem kernel a better choice for my needs than the -generic / -hwe one?"
[12:41] <pickanick> How to answer that question?
[12:43] <pickanick> Why is there an OEM kernel?
[12:43] <ravage> to support OEM hardware
[12:44] <ravage> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/OEMKernel
[12:44] <pickanick> And Dell does not put in into upstream kernel source?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:02] <StupidLikeAFox> been looking into getting a Magic Mosue 2 working, most of what I see is about the original magic mouse
[13:02] <StupidLikeAFox> so still no dice
[13:14] <pickanick> tomreyn and ravage, thank you for the information
[13:20] <pickanick> https://ubuntu.com/pro/dashboard  gives me a token for five machines.  Will this token be visible on later logins (or do I have to save it elsewhere?)
[13:23] <pickanick> After attaching machines  can I detach/unenroll machines from the dashboard?   Can I expire the token and get a new one if it gets compromised?
[13:49] <ogra> pickanick, the dashboard only shows what you attached, if you detach a machine locally (using "pro detach ...") or if it vanishes (because you deleted a VM) it will vanish from the dashbard too (after some expiration time) ...
[15:42] <oehman> anyone who knows when ubuntu 20.04.6 will be out for downloding?
[15:44] <oehman> getting tired of just wating for that ubuntu 20.04.5 will be the last :P
[15:46] <leftyfb> oehman: 20.04.5 is the last https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule
[16:10] <ice9> the file /etc/resolv.conf has nameserver 127.0.0.53  however I cannot ping that IP address, any idea?
[16:14] <leftyfb> ice9: that mean you don't have a loopback interface. I'm surprised a lot more isn't broken for you.
[16:14] <leftyfb> ice9: or you removed systemd-resolved
[16:20] <ice9> modifying "DNS=" in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf will use the defined DNS nameservers for any network connection?
[16:21] <leftyfb> ice9: is this a server or desktop(with Network Manager)?
[16:21] <ice9> leftyfb, desktop
[16:21] <leftyfb> ice9: then why are you messing with systemd-resolved and resolv.conf?
[16:22] <ice9> leftyfb, because I need to use Google's DNS for all connections without setting it manually in every new wifi network
[16:22] <leftyfb> oh, that again
[16:23] <leftyfb> ice9: why this requirement?
[16:23] <ice9> leftyfb, why do you think there are many DNS servers and people needs to use specific one of them instead of the ISP?
[16:24] <leftyfb> ice9: if you could explain why you have this requirement, there might be a much easier solution to accomplish the same end goal
[16:26] <jluc> Hello
[16:26] <jluc> I installed a 22.04 Lubuntu
[16:27] <jluc> on a laptop
[16:27] <jluc> and connected it to a video projector
[16:27] <jluc> i had to tweak the screen settings
[16:27] <leftyfb> !enter | jluc
[16:28] <jluc> the default installed  screen setting tool is quite basic and doesnt offer ability to state "same picture on both screen"
[16:29] <leftyfb> jluc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/MultiDisplay
[16:29] <jluc> but enables to position them relatively, so i put them with same pixel size and position them on "top" of each other so as to see same picture on both
[16:30] <jluc> when i switched off and on again, without the screen projector, it kept the previous settings and i cannot work anymore (without the projector)
[16:31] <jluc> i havent the lubuntu laptop here so i cant check the proposed tool
[16:32] <jluc> but there is one ; so the community Lubuntu Multidisplay page doesnt seem right ; but i'll try to install that Arandr in case it isnt allready
[16:35] <jluc> thanks
[17:06] <bigMouthCommie> i'm experiencing **very high** systemd-journal cpu usage
[17:06] <bigMouthCommie> please help
[17:06] <bigMouthCommie> laptop cores consistently 50C-60C
[17:07] <rbox> bigMouthCommie: well look at wahats being written to the log...
[17:11] <bigMouthCommie> rbox: how do i find that?
[17:12] <rbox> read the journal...
[17:12] <bigMouthCommie> can you give me a line to type into bash?
[17:12] <bigMouthCommie> cat the journal... doesn't do anything
[17:12] <leftyfb> bigMouthCommie: journalctl -f
[17:12] <bigMouthCommie> thank you leftyfb
[17:13] <bigMouthCommie> journalctl -f
[17:13] <bigMouthCommie> errr
[17:13] <bigMouthCommie> Mar 18 13:13:19 [SYSTEMNAME] tumblerd[952442]: gst_poll_read_control: assertion 'set != NULL' failed
[17:13] <bigMouthCommie>  
[17:14] <bigMouthCommie> about 1000 lines of that
[17:14] <leftyfb> ok, kill tumblerd
[17:14] <bigMouthCommie> ... whats it do? like... what am i killing?
[17:15] <leftyfb> bigMouthCommie: it seems to be part of the "tumbler" package which is "D-Bus thumbnailing service" which isn't installed by default
[17:16] <leftyfb> bigMouthCommie: try sudo killall tumblerd
[17:16] <leftyfb> you might have to install killall
[17:16] <bigMouthCommie> well then it's kill -9: no more cpu time
[17:17] <leftyfb> bigMouthCommie: sure, if you can get the PID of tumblerd, that will also work
[17:17] <bigMouthCommie> thanx leftyfb
[17:18] <bigMouthCommie> i have obstinately refused to learn systemd ever since everyone started implementing it (including debian?!)
[17:19] <leftyfb> bigMouthCommie: your issue had nothing to do with systemd and everything to do with an application doing bad things to your system and filling up logs
[17:20] <bigMouthCommie> leftyfb: right, but familiarity with systemd would have let me diagnose it as you did.
[17:21] <bigMouthCommie> cores pulled back to 33C. that's nice.
[17:29] <isene> I need to list directories AND certain file types in a directory (e.g. .pdf and .png AND all directories - including . and ..) How?
[17:31] <rbox> isene: find command
[17:31] <isene> ... forgot: Using ls
[17:31] <rbox> so round peg square hole instead of doing it correctly
[17:31] <rbox> gotcha
[17:31] <rbox> have fun
[17:32] <isene> Snide comment received. Got an actual answer?
[17:32] <rbox> yes... use find
[17:33] <leftyfb> isene: ls -R and egrep with some regex
[17:33] <isene> leftyfb: Thanks
[17:34] <leftyfb> isene: you're writing a small script, most of which can be replaced with the find command that was already suggested
[17:34] <leftyfb> isene: why the "ls" requirement?
[17:37] <isene> Because I'm already using that in my ruby script and want as few dependencies as possible
[17:37] <rbox> calling system binaries from a programming langauge
[17:38] <rbox> tahts the ultimate round peg square hole
[17:38] <leftyfb> isene: https://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.6.3/libdoc/find/rdoc/Find.html
[18:16] <fede_> hi, I want configure (with network manager) a vpn pptp on ubuntu 22.04, but when I add new vpn there is'nt this profile in the option. how can i do for find this option? I have just installed from apt-get install command the pptpd packet
[21:08] <bluejaypop> hello guys, akik, lotuspsychje, this solved my problem with the flickering in lenovo x1 nano gen2 with ubuntu 22.04 latest kernel: https://askubuntu.com/a/1376963
[23:04] <bray90820> So in my app launcher there is an app called hello and for the life of me I can't find the .desktop file associated with it
[23:04] <bray90820> Anyone know a way I can actually find it?
[23:05] <rbox> did you look in /usr/share/applications and ~/.local
[23:05] <Sven_vB> hi :) in focal, how can I measure the fragmentation of an ext3 file system while it's mounted?
[23:05] <rbox> tune2fs maybe?
[23:06] <Sven_vB> thanks, I'll check its man page.
[23:07] <bray90820> rbox: Yes
[23:07] <bray90820> It's not in ether
[23:07] <Sven_vB> can't find anything about measuring in man tune2fs. it just says that reserved blocks help reduce fragmentation.
[23:07] <rbox> i think there are XDG variables which can tell it to searhc in other directories
[23:08] <bray90820> Oh nevermind I found it
[23:08] <bray90820> Thanks for the help
[23:19] <Floating4> can anyone explain the distinction between NetworkManager and setting up a bridge in /etc/networking/interfaces ?  I cant make sense of this.
[23:19] <Floating4> They seem to do the same thing, so why are they both there, and which should I be using?
[23:21] <matsaman> networkmanager is a big gui/backend system for ... managing your network
[23:21] <matsaman> I believe you can do bridging with it
[23:21] <Floating4> Argh... like MSFT having a gui and a command line?
[23:22] <matsaman> um, well
[23:22] <matsaman> I mean a config file isn't quite a commandline, but sure, kinda
[23:22] <matsaman> you have a networking stack
[23:22] <Floating4> does network manager affect the slash interfaces stuff?
[23:22] <matsaman> and it can handle bridging
[23:22] <matsaman> and networkmanager is just a big manager for helping people manage many networking things
[23:23] <matsaman> Floating4: I forget. I wouldn't think it would alter that file but it might read it and make its own version somewehre
[23:23] <matsaman> somewhere*
[23:23] <rbox> the interfaces file is an alternateive to using network manager
[23:23] <rbox> or network manager is an alternative to using the interfaces file
[23:23] <matsaman> networkmanager would be better than a custom hardcoded config when you want to change your setup frequently and/or arbitrarily
[23:23] <Floating4> argh... and if they are both configured?  It made more sense from matsaman lol
[23:23] <matsaman> or if your wireless config is just a complicated mess
[23:24] <Floating4> I see... I will stick with network manager... thanks folks
[23:24] <matsaman> you should choose either manually configuring yourself or using networkmanager
[23:24] <matsaman> not both
[23:25] <matsaman> it has some significant GUI deps in general, but not for ordinary Ubuntu, which already has them
[23:38] <Floating4> Hey matsaman and rbox -- I have a bridge with 2 NICs attached, both are connected, and the pc downstream is getting an IP -- is this the expected result? I thought somehow passthru meant the IP was passed along downstream
[23:38] <rbox> its bridging the traffic
[23:39] <rbox> so the downstream pc sends out a dhcp request
[23:39] <rbox> it gets bridged to the server
[23:39] <rbox> and vice versa
[23:39] <rbox> the ip of the device hosting the bridge is irrelvent
[23:42] <Floating4> rbox ok understood, many thanks - I have the built in ethernet NIC... I wanted to make it a "management nic" so I can remote desktop into the machine, how do I keep that NIC isolated?
[23:43] <Floating4> rbox - I have 3 NICs - WAN in, WAN out (bridge) <-- PCI cards, and motherboard NIC
[23:44] <Floating4> WAN in and WAN out are doing what I want, can the other NIC be isolated and be ONLY for management?  This box is right at the WAN and I dont want it to be a hackers best bud
[23:51] <rbox> you can configure any nics you want as whatever you want
[23:54] <Floating4> rbox nmcli wouldnt work, what is the mechanism for restricting internet, ufw?
[23:55] <rbox> what do you mean "restricting internet"