| Moto33 | hello? | 00:38 |
|---|---|---|
| sarnold | oh great now I'm going to have those old "HELLO MOTO" commercials stuck in my head | 00:41 |
| === LabMonkey is now known as Mechanismus | ||
| Eickmeyer | sarnold: XD | 00:44 |
| sarnold | :D | 00:47 |
| theorem | :D | 00:47 |
| theorem | \o\ | 00:47 |
| theorem | \o/ | 00:47 |
| theorem | /o/ | 00:47 |
| === realivanjx9 is now known as realivanjx | ||
| gorgon | Hi, how do I record, view, and playback waveforms from my microphone? | 01:38 |
| gorgon | ups? | 01:38 |
| gorgon | Oh that was not an answer to me | 01:38 |
| gorgon | sorry | 01:38 |
| matsaman | gorgon: ups | 01:38 |
| matsaman | j/k =) | 01:38 |
| gorgon | ha ha | 01:39 |
| matsaman | gorgon: do you want a GUI app or commandline? | 01:39 |
| gorgon | commandline is preferable | 01:39 |
| gorgon | I use KDE | 01:39 |
| gorgon | anything lightweight will do actually | 01:39 |
| matsaman | you might have 'arecord' already | 01:39 |
| matsaman | playback ... I would use | 01:39 |
| gorgon | ahh thanks | 01:40 |
| matsaman | mplayer or mpv, but 'aplay' is probably also something you have | 01:40 |
| gorgon | wow how cool is that thanks! | 01:40 |
| matsaman | view is a special one, I don't think I would bother searching for something that would visualize a waveform in a terminal | 01:40 |
| gorgon | Oh and do you know how I can view the waveforms? | 01:40 |
| matsaman | most people use the GUI app 'Audacity' and call it a day | 01:40 |
| sarnold | 'view' sounds a bit like you want audacity | 01:40 |
| gorgon | I mean I could open a Jupyter Notebook I guess | 01:40 |
| matsaman | sarnold: indeed | 01:40 |
| sarnold | heya matsaman :) | 01:40 |
| gorgon | ok! | 01:40 |
| matsaman | I'm sure you could find a script to generate the waveform | 01:41 |
| matsaman | and even pass it to libcaca for an ascii representation | 01:41 |
| matsaman | if you like pain a lot | 01:41 |
| gorgon | Oh and while we're on the topic of viewing | 01:41 |
| gorgon | something I wondered for a hilw | 01:41 |
| matsaman | generate the waveform visual* | 01:41 |
| gorgon | and on the topic of console - | 01:41 |
| gorgon | Is there a console command that can show an image on the console? | 01:41 |
| gorgon | Of course, approximately | 01:41 |
| matsaman | gorgon: as in without X running? | 01:41 |
| matsaman | or just in a terminal? | 01:41 |
| gorgon | e.g. "aview abc.jpg" | 01:41 |
| gorgon | just in terminal | 01:41 |
| matsaman | I would use 'display' from imagemagick | 01:42 |
| gorgon | with as much color as possible | 01:42 |
| matsaman | but there are hundreds of image viewers | 01:42 |
| gorgon | Wow I used imagemagick I didn't know that it has display! | 01:42 |
| matsaman | if you want it _in_ the terminal, few terminals do that, but some do | 01:42 |
| gorgon | I'm gonna try it right now | 01:42 |
| matsaman | and you can always use something like libcaca to ascii-ize it | 01:42 |
| sarnold | gorgon: w3m-img can do it | 01:42 |
| sarnold | hmm, my first attempt it appeared to start an X program :/ | 01:43 |
| gorgon | oh `magick display abc.jpg` opens an image using my X | 01:43 |
| matsaman | gorgon: you don't want to use X? | 01:44 |
| ravage | gorgon: if you want to go totally crazy on the console: https://github.com/fathyb/carbonyl/releases :D | 01:44 |
| matsaman | gorgon: displaying an image without X running is a different beast | 01:44 |
| gorgon | Yeah I'm generally fine with X, but sometimes I want to just use the console to quickly confirm an image you know | 01:44 |
| matsaman | gorgon: you would have to setup some framebuffer implementation, or use libcaca | 01:44 |
| gorgon | especially when I'm using an ssh session | 01:44 |
| matsaman | probably libcaca will be the easiest, although it's not going to be pretty frequently | 01:45 |
| matsaman | http://caca.zoy.org/static/images/stitch-80x45.png | 01:45 |
| gorgon | Huh carbonyl looks interesting! | 01:46 |
| sarnold | this guy suggests tiv or ranger https://www.baeldung.com/linux/view-images-from-terminal | 01:46 |
| gorgon | Will check it out later | 01:46 |
| arraybolt3 | ravage: Sheesh, that Carbonyl thing is amazing. | 01:46 |
| arraybolt3 | Might try it :P | 01:46 |
| ravage | it is! | 01:46 |
| gorgon | libcaca sounds great | 01:47 |
| gorgon | wasn't there a different library like that earlier | 01:47 |
| gorgon | ncurses? | 01:47 |
| matsaman | well curses is a different thing | 01:48 |
| gorgon | ok | 01:48 |
| matsaman | curses/slang/et al, are for terminal-based UI | 01:48 |
| sarnold | curses is something else, think more menu-driven programs | 01:48 |
| matsaman | and libcaca is for ascii-izing imagery, basically | 01:48 |
| sarnold | libaa was the first thing like libcaca that I heard of | 01:48 |
| gorgon | Wow libcaca is 10 years old | 01:48 |
| sarnold | back in school I watched a bootleg rip of the matrix with libaa, because of course I did | 01:48 |
| gorgon | I mean the last release was 9 years ago: http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/libcaca | 01:49 |
| gorgon | but that probably means there's nothing more to add | 01:49 |
| gorgon | as long as they compile it with all the recent security fixes it should be safe enough i suppose? | 01:49 |
| gorgon | Also I'll install Audacity if that's the best GUI viewer for Linux | 01:51 |
| gorgon | Thanks for all the suggestions! | 01:51 |
| sarnold | gorgon: audacity is an *audio* tool btw ;) | 01:52 |
| gorgon | thanks it seems really good | 01:54 |
| gorgon | The UI looks a bit out of place, more like Windows 3x | 01:57 |
| gorgon | Probably it's not a KDE application | 01:57 |
| gorgon | but it seems to be well maintained despite the looks | 01:57 |
| gorgon | Last code merge was just 16 hours ago | 01:58 |
| sarnold | it started in the same era, wikipedia says its first release was may 28, 2000 | 01:58 |
| sarnold | (I was guessing earlier than that, heh) | 01:58 |
| matsaman | there is probably a KDE-oriented alternative, but you're going to find plenty of irreplaceable apps that aren't KDE oriented | 02:00 |
| matsaman | so probably best to get over that now (or spend ages setting up themes to make such apps look native) | 02:00 |
| gorgon | Nah I'm good with audacity | 02:01 |
| gorgon | If it's the gimp of audio, which it seems to be | 02:01 |
| matsaman | it is | 02:01 |
| sarnold | there's a kde non-linear video editor kdenlive that loads of people like; it *might* be able to do audio things, too, but it'd be an afterthought for them | 02:02 |
| === chris14_ is now known as chris14 | ||
| === chris14_ is now known as chris14 | ||
| zbu | halo | 04:58 |
| circle | The kubuntu 22.04.2 installer ISO -> USB has a partition named "writeable". This is a great advance. Is there anything I can do short of shutting down when I insert another USB which also has a partition named "writeable". Problem is that /var/log of the running OS is written on "writeable" *by name*, and then I cannot unmount the writeable | 05:15 |
| circle | partition on the second USB. | 05:15 |
| rbox | youc an disable automounting | 05:16 |
| circle | That would be a preventative measure, yes. But is there a way to untangle two partitions once it occurs? | 05:30 |
| rbox | well yo uahent shown any output or error messages | 05:32 |
| rbox | so theres only so much one cay say... | 05:32 |
| === remy_ is now known as Remy | ||
| LifeIsSoEZEZEZ | seexuntu | 06:53 |
| LifeIsSoEZEZEZ | o_o | 06:53 |
| shadowhawk | hello | 07:07 |
| LifeIsSoEZEZEZ | printf ("slave world"); | 07:13 |
| circle | Is it conceivable that resetting the BIOS on an older machine (pre-2019) could make the recent Ubuntu installers no longer boot in secure mode? Do they rely on a more recent key or somesuch? | 07:16 |
| wwwi | hello, I made a Windows folder shared | 07:19 |
| wwwi | how do I access it from Ubuntu? | 07:19 |
| accomp | circle, yeah, disable secure boot and try again. | 07:19 |
| accomp | or fix the boot with a live USB and boot-repair. | 07:20 |
| accomp | wwwi, i think you should be able to access it from the file explorer in network, however if its not listed, try ctrl+l and enter the URL with IP of the machine like: //192.168.1.2/shared_folder_name IIRC. | 07:22 |
| LifeIsSoEZEZEZ | printf ("slave world"); | 07:22 |
| LifeIsSoEZEZEZ | oh my sex | 07:27 |
| LifeIsSoEZEZEZ | let 's go sex ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | 07:27 |
| LifeIsSoEZEZEZ | sex sex sex ggo gogo googogo | 07:27 |
| topcat001 | !ops | 07:28 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 07:28 |
| wwwi | smb://IP/shared folder prompts for a domain, what do I put there? | 07:58 |
| circle | accomp: is boot-repair on the live boot menu? I do not find an apt package named boot-repair | 08:09 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| StyXman | is there any way I can disable the notification that says "Pending update of firefox snap. close the app to avoid disruptions (8 days left)"? it keeps nagging me for DAYS | 08:28 |
| akik | :) | 08:31 |
| akik | the new normal | 08:31 |
| StyXman | 9:32 I close it | 08:32 |
| StyXman | let's see how long (short) it takes to appear again | 08:32 |
| ice9 | which component I should file a bug for USB transfer speed issues ? | 09:36 |
| shadowhawk | hey | 09:42 |
| bittin | hi | 09:43 |
| === jesopo is now known as jess | ||
| wwwi | hello, I can't connect to my Windows shared folder, I give credentials, then the credientials pop up is presented again, I type them again and then it perpetually keeps thinking | 09:50 |
| wwwi | any ideas? | 09:50 |
| shadowhawk | oh wow | 09:51 |
| shadowhawk | the problems we have here | 09:51 |
| shadowhawk | i hope we get some good answers! | 09:51 |
| blackmushroom | Can anyone help me?!?! too many kworkers process and mad cpu single core overload | 09:59 |
| kalilinux | hii friends | 10:13 |
| kalilinux | good morning | 10:13 |
| kalilinux | best alternative of microsoft office in linux except libreoffice | 10:14 |
| kalilinux | ??? | 10:14 |
| dsc_ | vim | 10:15 |
| kalilinux | vim ? | 10:15 |
| kalilinux | oo iget it | 10:16 |
| kalilinux | vim is a text editor | 10:16 |
| kalilinux | in linux | 10:16 |
| kalilinux | but i want some office app like word, excel, powerpoint | 10:17 |
| kalilinux | i found onlyoffice | 10:17 |
| kalilinux | its interface is same as MS Office | 10:18 |
| kalilinux | hii otisolsen70_ | 10:19 |
| kalilinux | how are you my friend | 10:19 |
| kalilinux | i am fine | 10:19 |
| kalilinux | and you? | 10:19 |
| kalilinux | i hope ypu are well | 10:19 |
| kalilinux | and doing some works in your life | 10:20 |
| kalilinux | why in this channel no one talk | 10:20 |
| kalilinux | when i am using linux mint last year | 10:21 |
| kalilinux | many of them were chating | 10:21 |
| kalilinux | and discussing about linux and apps | 10:21 |
| EriC^^ | !offtopic | kalilinux | 10:21 |
| ubottu | kalilinux: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 10:21 |
| kalilinux | and something realted to operating system | 10:22 |
| kalilinux | my username is kalilinux but i am on ubuntu 20 | 10:22 |
| kalilinux | i choose my username kalilinux bcoz its sounds cool. | 10:23 |
| danjalical | huh, its my year to this day when I told myself I would run ubuntu for good | 10:49 |
| danjalical | I just realised | 10:49 |
| kalilinux | hii | 10:55 |
| wwwi | hi, I managed to access my Windows Shared folder from Ubuntu and nautilus sees it, but applications don't see it | 10:59 |
| wwwi | any ideas why? | 10:59 |
| === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon | ||
| ravage | wwwi: usually you see them in $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/gvfs | 11:07 |
| ravage | on a default installation that should be /run/user/1000/gvfs/ | 11:08 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:02 |
| jacob-vlijm | Hey! | 13:13 |
| lmat | When I dpkg -S "$file"; I get "libace-7.0.6: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libACE_Monitor_Control-7.0.6.so". Then when I "apt purge libace", I get "E: Unable to locate package libace". Does this mean my system is broken or is there some other mechanism by which a package might be installed and providing a file, but I can't remove the package? | 15:05 |
| aiena | Is there a way to hide all those disk drive icons that show up in the Activities? | 15:06 |
| aiena | I mean mount points | 15:06 |
| lmat | aiena: I assume you don't want to unmount the filesystems? ;-) | 15:07 |
| aiena | lmat, the file systems are not mounted | 15:08 |
| aiena | but those icons show up giving a choice to mount them | 15:08 |
| aiena | they flood the activities sidebar | 15:08 |
| aiena | trash + mountpoints | 15:08 |
| aiena | err mountable partitons | 15:09 |
| aiena | maybe something of gvfs | 15:09 |
| aiena | e.g. mount 300gb volume, mount 41 gb volume etc.... | 15:09 |
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| === linuxmodder is now known as csexecutive | ||
| aiena | the fs's are not mounted I just dont like those icons its ok in the file manager but why in the main Activities ribbon? | 15:10 |
| === |8lurry| is now known as suckling | ||
| === suckling is now known as |8lurry| | ||
| aiena | but it shows up in the running apps part | 15:11 |
| aiena | their icons to "Other locations" in the file manager | 15:13 |
| aiena | *they're | 15:13 |
| aiena | but only drives excluding the os root | 15:14 |
| jhutchins | lmat: Try dpkg -l | grep libace | 15:14 |
| jhutchins | lmat: You might simply try libace-7 | 15:14 |
| ice99 | .mp4 and .vid files are not playing in Videos, they only work in VLC, any idea? | 15:16 |
| jhutchins | ice99: Play them in VLC. | 15:25 |
| jhutchins | ice99: Make VLC the default app to open those file types. | 15:26 |
| leftyfb | lmat: sudo apt purge libace-7.0.6 | 15:26 |
| ice99 | I added Nextcloud account to online accounts but calendars and contacts doesn't show up in gnome even after relogin, any idea? | 15:27 |
| lmat | leftyfb: That worked! I'm surprised...I didn't think I needed to provide the version. Thank you! | 15:30 |
| akik | snap list in 22.04 says that firefox was published by mozilla. did they create the snap? | 15:47 |
| leftyfb | yes | 15:47 |
| jhutchins | lmat: It's hard to tell when there are version numbers that are part of a package name - and how much of the number is required. | 15:53 |
| wasutton | alright, it looks like the libvirt issues started with the jump from 20.04.4 to 20.04.5 | 15:56 |
| WeeBey98 | anyone ever get like... blinking windows or the taskbars on Gnome? | 17:03 |
| jhutchins | WeeBey98: Does your TV ever do that? | 17:05 |
| WeeBey98 | Used to. I just hit it on the side. ;) | 17:06 |
| WeeBey98 | I think something is funky with graphics drivers recently, but I'm not sure what it could be. It started happening last week. | 17:06 |
| jhutchins | WeeBey98: Remember there's a huge variety of hardware combinations out here. | 17:08 |
| jhutchins | WeeBey98: Although that sounds like it could be a hardware issue. Loose connector or something. | 17:08 |
| WeeBey98 | I know. Just sometimes something gets pushed out with some bug. | 17:08 |
| WeeBey98 | jhutchins, Nah. it's only certain windows or panels. | 17:08 |
| WeeBey98 | As if the rendering of that windows is acting up. | 17:09 |
| WeeBey98 | not too serious. Just checking if anyone saw a siimlar thing recently. It happens. | 17:09 |
| oerheks | WeeBey98, on wht graphics card? | 17:10 |
| WeeBey98 | oerheks, nvidia rtx 3070 mobile | 17:11 |
| oerheks | What kernel version? uname -a | 17:12 |
| WeeBey98 | 6.1.12 (imma get in trouble lol) | 17:13 |
| oerheks | no, this is a known issue for windows too, often too high refreshrate 144 | 17:13 |
| WeeBey98 | this display is 165hz | 17:14 |
| oerheks | up to 120 it could work fine.. | 17:14 |
| WeeBey98 | next time i'll see it i'll change the refresh and see. | 17:15 |
| WeeBey98 | Thanks for the tip oerheks | 17:15 |
| oerheks | yw | 17:15 |
| supay | what does it mean when the dependency says `gnome-shell >= 40.0`? | 17:48 |
| supay | does it mean >= 3.40.0 or something else? | 17:48 |
| supay | also, can i upgrade my gnome-shell to 3.40.0 on ubuntu 20.04 | 17:49 |
| tomreyn | supay: it means version 40.0 or higher. | 17:56 |
| tomreyn | and no, you should not try to upgrade gnome packages without also upgrading to a newer ubuntu release. | 17:58 |
| tomreyn | 20.04 LTS can be upgraded to 22.04 LTS | 17:58 |
| tomreyn | gnome moved to version numbers 40 and higher for what could also have been the 4.0 release, similar to other software such as some web browsers (firefox, chromium) https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome-shell | 18:00 |
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| supay | tomreyn: ahh, i see. that makes a lot of sense. thank you! :) | 18:46 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome | 18:47 |
| Floating4 | whats the eqiv of ping -t in ubuntu terminal? | 19:36 |
| ravage | ping | 19:36 |
| sarnold | ping -t ? | 19:37 |
| Floating4 | its -b -- continious | 19:37 |
| ravage | that should be the default | 19:38 |
| ravage | -> ping | 19:38 |
| Floating4 | well look at that - learn something every day | 19:38 |
| ravage | and b is broadcast ping on linux | 19:38 |
| Floating4 | I see that now | 19:38 |
| jhutchins | Floating4: There's a man page for ping - man ping | 19:57 |
| tim95 | Does anyone here know how to interpret dbus-monitor output? | 20:13 |
| saunders | my keyboard: https://askubuntu.com/q/1449887/847449 an old question, but never figured out how to take a screenshot with the "printscreen" key as "windows-shift-s" on Microsoft Windows. The "print" key is rather odd on this keyboard. | 20:24 |
| Gallomimia | pardon me... how can i verify a USB stick is bootable, using ubuntu | 20:27 |
| Gallomimia | i guess i could always try to boot from it... | 20:27 |
| akik | Gallomimia: you can try to boot it with qemu-kvm | 20:29 |
| Gallomimia | well i installed that easily enough. but here we hit a wall. got manual? | 20:31 |
| akik | Gallomimia: i think the minimal set of options was: sudo qemu-kvm -m 1024 /dev/sdX | 20:31 |
| akik | or if you fix the permissions on /dev/kvm, just: qemu-kvm -m 1024 /dev/sdX | 20:31 |
| Gallomimia | oddly enough, of all the commands available starting with qemu now, kvm is not one of them | 20:32 |
| akik | Gallomimia: yea i noticed that earlier. try to use qemu-system-x86_64 | 20:33 |
| arraybolt3 | Gallomimia: qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 4096 -smp 2 -hda /dev/sdx | 20:34 |
| arraybolt3 | ^ that should work fairly well with Ubuntu Desktop, there are other variants on that command if you need something specific or less resource-intensive. | 20:35 |
| Gallomimia | wow. yeah i'm giving up on that. just trying to get a USB that's bootable. used dd on another machine to flash an iso, but that machine won't boot it | 20:35 |
| arraybolt3 | Gallomimia: Is it a BIOS machine? And by "won't boot", does it not even try, or does it try but freeze during bootup? | 20:35 |
| Gallomimia | thanks for the suggestion. i'll read more about qemu later. it sounds like it will do some other things that i'd like | 20:35 |
| Gallomimia | yes, yes | 20:35 |
| arraybolt3 | Ah, that's a known bug, just leave it "frozen" and it will figure itself out in 10 minutes or so. | 20:35 |
| akik | Gallomimia: if the iso image is not for uefi boot, change your uefi to boot in bios or csm mode | 20:36 |
| arraybolt3 | Only affects booting the ISO, the installed system won't have the slow boot. | 20:36 |
| arraybolt3 | I'll try and find the bug report. | 20:36 |
| Gallomimia | no it won't. the machine in question is like 12-15 years old, and we're trying to boot win7 | 20:36 |
| Gallomimia | it's running manjaro but it's pretty darn slow, and the fellow who wants to use it is not too interested in linux at all. so... now we're off topic | 20:36 |
| arraybolt3 | Gallomimia: Ah. | 20:37 |
| leftyfb | Gallomimia: manjaro is also offtopic here | 20:37 |
| === chris14_ is now known as chris14 | ||
| arraybolt3 | leftyfb: They're trying to test a bootable USB on Ubuntu I assume, that would be on-topic regardless of the OS on the ISO or the final target system, since whether it boots or not is the problem, not what it is that is being booted. | 20:38 |
| arraybolt3 | And Ubuntu's qemu-system-x86_64 can do that. | 20:38 |
| Gallomimia | yeah i'm trying to use my ubuntu machine to check and see if the USB stick is bootable | 20:38 |
| leftyfb | oh, it looks like they had a manjaro machine trying to test a win7 installer usb | 20:39 |
| akik | Gallomimia: there's a command isohybrid that converts non-isohybrid isos to isohybrid | 20:39 |
| Gallomimia | as in.... efi/bios hybridness? | 20:40 |
| Gallomimia | isohybrid | 20:40 |
| Gallomimia | wrong window | 20:40 |
| arraybolt3 | isohybrid I think makes a "can only boot from a DVD drive" ISO file also bootable from a USB drive when you dd it. | 20:40 |
| Gallomimia | OH! | 20:41 |
| arraybolt3 | But also, Windows doesn't take too kindly to being straight dd'd to a drive - WoeUSB might be better. | 20:41 |
| Gallomimia | that's probably a big deal | 20:41 |
| Gallomimia | what is a woeUSB | 20:41 |
| arraybolt3 | It won't need isohybrid. I've used it several times. | 20:41 |
| arraybolt3 | https://github.com/WoeUSB/WoeUSB | 20:41 |
| arraybolt3 | (Not officially supported, but if that's what you're doing anyway, may as well give an easy option.) | 20:41 |
| arraybolt3 | s/several/twice/ | 20:41 |
| arraybolt3 | s/twice/thrice/ (ok so it was several :P) | 20:41 |
| Gallomimia | lots of options to look into. sounds like Future-gallo's problem | 20:42 |
| arraybolt3 | or whatever, I'm mis-remembering things. You know what I mean. Use that tool, will make bootable Windows stick :D | 20:42 |
| arraybolt3 | Anyway, /me stops going off-topic | 20:42 |
| akik | Gallomimia: i have the commands to make a windows iso able to boot from a usb stick if you need those | 20:43 |
| akik | Gallomimia: it's a matter of copying the files | 20:43 |
| ravage | the woeusb script really does a good job and is easy to use | 20:43 |
| akik | ravage: it's just a script with many dependencies? | 20:44 |
| ravage | it has some dependencies yes | 20:44 |
| ravage | i think most required for basic operation are part of a default ubuntu desktop install | 20:45 |
| ravage | if not all | 20:45 |
| arraybolt3 | I had to install wimtools to make it work. | 20:45 |
| arraybolt3 | Everything else was there. | 20:46 |
| ravage | that is not required for a simple iso to usb transfer | 20:46 |
| ravage | (to a ntfs usb) | 20:46 |
| arraybolt3 | I was flashing Win10 ISOs to what I believe was a FAT32 USB (that was what it did by default), so it needed it for me. Win7 is smaller and might not need it. | 20:47 |
| ravage | yep. should not be needed with --tgt-fs ntfs | 20:48 |
| arraybolt3 | OK, brb, trying something real quick... | 20:49 |
| akik | ravage: is --tgt-fs a woeusb option? | 20:53 |
| ravage | Yes | 20:53 |
| nsaunders | is there something like monitors.xml for wayland? Previously available resolutions are no longer available. | 21:25 |
| telmac | chrome is crashing every time I start it, sometimes it lasts for a few seconds, sometimes it dies immediately | 21:51 |
| telmac | one sec i'll post a log | 21:51 |
| telmac | https://paste.debian.net/1274840/ | 21:52 |
| matsaman | telmac: try chromium, I don't think any chrome you'd get would be anything but a really terrible upstream binary | 21:52 |
| matsaman | that is: built by google | 21:52 |
| telmac | I'm figuring it's line 7 | 21:52 |
| telmac | there was some actual reason why I wanted chrome proper | 21:52 |
| telmac | my recollection is that I used chromium on debian maybe 7 years ago and it was noticeably worse than google's chrome packages | 21:53 |
| telmac | maybe this is moot now | 21:53 |
| matsaman | academic* | 21:54 |
| matsaman | on the one hand, yes, you're more likely to get Google's upstream features working in chrome | 21:54 |
| matsaman | on the other hand, the build is going to be really bad | 21:54 |
| telmac | hum hum | 21:55 |
| sarnold | what an unhappy log :/ each of those could have been a cause for the failure | 21:55 |
| matsaman | anyone it should be easy to try chromium and see if it's missing something, now | 21:55 |
| telmac | yeah I'm setting things up now | 21:56 |
| telmac | I see it's on the same official version number which is reassuring | 21:56 |
| matsaman | anyway* it should, wow | 21:57 |
| telmac | I have a chrome adjacent question, unrelated | 21:57 |
| * ogra agrees that anyone shoudl try chromium .... | 21:57 | |
| ogra | 🙂 | 21:57 |
| ogra | once at least | 21:57 |
| telmac | so there's a problem with wayland support in vscode | 21:57 |
| telmac | inb4 you say to use vscodium | 21:57 |
| matsaman | some old backstory if you're bored: https://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html | 21:57 |
| sarnold | wow, that is *the* spot | 21:58 |
| matsaman | telmac: use vscodi... aw | 21:58 |
| sarnold | lol | 21:58 |
| telmac | I *believe* I actually tried ubuntu's vscodium packages and they have the same problem, but apparently the packages in arch's repos *don't* which is interesting | 21:58 |
| matsaman | so what's the problem? | 21:58 |
| telmac | basically, you can pass electron apps a flag to use wayland natively | 21:58 |
| matsaman | neat | 21:59 |
| telmac | this is relevant specifically for hidpi support, otherwise I wouldn't really care | 21:59 |
| telmac | and this works fine with obsidian and slack, but it's broken in vscode | 21:59 |
| telmac | I think it's actually some larger problem that vscode is like refusing all flags or something | 21:59 |
| telmac | ah, ok, a legitimate reason not to use chromium: it doesn't support google's sync | 22:00 |
| matsaman | doesn't it? | 22:00 |
| telmac | https://www.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/ly7dn8/no_option_to_sign_into_chromium/ | 22:01 |
| telmac | (I also can't find a login button anywhere in the interface) | 22:01 |
| ogra | i use a hidpi (4k 13" dell laptop) here and had to recently tst the code snap for someone ... it was totally fine WRT scaling and resolution on wayland | 22:01 |
| telmac | interesting | 22:01 |
| telmac | I'm not using the snap, I think I'm using MS's .deb lol | 22:01 |
| ogra | that shouldnt really make a difference one would hope ... | 22:02 |
| telmac | one would hope | 22:02 |
| ogra | 🙂 | 22:02 |
| telmac | @ogra, I just reinstalled it with snap, doesn't seem to help, let me try the electron flag again | 22:05 |
| telmac | what version do you have? (of vscode) | 22:06 |
| ogra | i didnt have to use any flag ... | 22:06 |
| telmac | so indeed it doesn't help with the flag, same error as I was getting a while back: | 22:07 |
| ogra | it was a few weeks ago and i tested for someone else, it is uninstalled again ... but back then i installed from the latest/stable snap channel whetever was recent in there | 22:07 |
| telmac | ~$ code --enable-features=UseOzonePlatform --ozone-platform=wayland | 22:07 |
| telmac | Warning: 'enable-features' is not in the list of known options, but still passed to Electron/Chromium. | 22:07 |
| telmac | Warning: 'ozone-platform' is not in the list of known options, but still passed to Electron/Chromium. | 22:07 |
| ogra | thats fine, just a warning ... | 22:07 |
| telmac | well, but then it just didn't open anything | 22:07 |
| telmac | I'm not very knowledgeable about snap, is the repository the "same" for everyone? | 22:07 |
| ogra | right | 22:07 |
| ogra | its a single package per channel for every distor/relese you install it on | 22:08 |
| ogra | *distro or release | 22:08 |
| ogra | technically it should work the same everywhere | 22:09 |
| telmac | (and like, out of the box looks like it's rendering at a lower res etc) | 22:09 |
| telmac | well I'm running 22.10 | 22:09 |
| ogra | ah, 22.04 here | 22:09 |
| telmac | oh interesting | 22:09 |
| ogra | might be related to gnome shell ? | 22:09 |
| telmac | wait what compositor are you running | 22:10 |
| telmac | ohhhhhh | 22:10 |
| ogra | default ubuntu desktop | 22:10 |
| telmac | right | 22:10 |
| telmac | so I think this *was* fine in gnome shell but I think I was also running at 100% in gnome shell with some stupid "large text" thing on | 22:10 |
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| ogra | (well, a bunch of extensions and hacks ... but largely default 🙂 ) | 22:10 |
| telmac | and then I switched to sway recently and now this is broken | 22:11 |
| ogra | aha | 22:11 |
| telmac | I mean I could go check in gnome if it has this problem with fractional scaling | 22:11 |
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| telmac | ok well now chrome is no longer crashing | 22:13 |
| telmac | ho hum | 22:13 |
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| saunders | Is there something like lspci to show my monitor details? | 23:34 |
| arraybolt3 | xrandr? | 23:35 |
| sarnold | edid-decode or read-edid perhaps? | 23:37 |
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