[00:38] <Moto33> hello?
[00:41] <sarnold> oh great now I'm going to have those old "HELLO MOTO" commercials stuck in my head
[00:44] <Eickmeyer> sarnold: XD
[00:47] <sarnold> :D
[00:47] <theorem> :D
[00:47] <theorem> \o\
[00:47] <theorem> \o/
[00:47] <theorem> /o/
[01:38] <gorgon> Hi, how do I record, view, and playback waveforms from my microphone?
[01:38] <gorgon> ups?
[01:38] <gorgon> Oh that was not an answer to me
[01:38] <gorgon> sorry
[01:38] <matsaman> gorgon: ups
[01:38] <matsaman> j/k =)
[01:39] <gorgon> ha ha
[01:39] <matsaman> gorgon: do you want a GUI app or commandline?
[01:39] <gorgon> commandline is preferable
[01:39] <gorgon> I use KDE
[01:39] <gorgon> anything lightweight will do actually
[01:39] <matsaman> you might have 'arecord' already
[01:39] <matsaman> playback ... I would use
[01:40] <gorgon> ahh thanks
[01:40] <matsaman> mplayer or mpv, but 'aplay' is probably also something you have
[01:40] <gorgon> wow how cool is that thanks!
[01:40] <matsaman> view is a special one, I don't think I would bother searching for something that would visualize a waveform in a terminal
[01:40] <gorgon> Oh and do you know how I can view the waveforms?
[01:40] <matsaman> most people use the GUI app 'Audacity' and call it a day
[01:40] <sarnold> 'view' sounds a bit like you want audacity
[01:40] <gorgon> I mean I could open a Jupyter Notebook I guess
[01:40] <matsaman> sarnold: indeed
[01:40] <sarnold> heya matsaman :)
[01:40] <gorgon> ok!
[01:41] <matsaman> I'm sure you could find a script to generate the waveform
[01:41] <matsaman> and even pass it to libcaca for an ascii representation
[01:41] <matsaman> if you like pain a lot
[01:41] <gorgon> Oh and while we're on the topic of viewing
[01:41] <gorgon> something I wondered for a hilw
[01:41] <matsaman> generate the waveform visual*
[01:41] <gorgon> and on the topic of console -
[01:41] <gorgon> Is there a console command that can show an image on the console?
[01:41] <gorgon> Of course, approximately
[01:41] <matsaman> gorgon: as in without X running?
[01:41] <matsaman> or just in a terminal?
[01:41] <gorgon> e.g. "aview abc.jpg"
[01:41] <gorgon> just in terminal
[01:42] <matsaman> I would use 'display' from imagemagick
[01:42] <gorgon> with as much color as possible
[01:42] <matsaman> but there are hundreds of image viewers
[01:42] <gorgon> Wow I used imagemagick I didn't know that it has display!
[01:42] <matsaman> if you want it _in_ the terminal, few terminals do that, but some do
[01:42] <gorgon> I'm gonna try it right now
[01:42] <matsaman> and you can always use something like libcaca to ascii-ize it
[01:42] <sarnold> gorgon: w3m-img can do it
[01:43] <sarnold> hmm, my first attempt it appeared to start an X program :/
[01:43] <gorgon> oh `magick display abc.jpg` opens an image using my X
[01:44] <matsaman> gorgon: you don't want to use X?
[01:44] <ravage> gorgon: if you want to go totally crazy on the console: https://github.com/fathyb/carbonyl/releases :D
[01:44] <matsaman> gorgon: displaying an image without X running is a different beast
[01:44] <gorgon> Yeah I'm generally fine with X, but sometimes I want to just use the console to quickly confirm an image you know
[01:44] <matsaman> gorgon: you would have to setup some framebuffer implementation, or use libcaca
[01:44] <gorgon> especially when I'm using an ssh session
[01:45] <matsaman> probably libcaca will be the easiest, although it's not going to be pretty frequently
[01:45] <matsaman> http://caca.zoy.org/static/images/stitch-80x45.png
[01:46] <gorgon> Huh carbonyl looks interesting!
[01:46] <sarnold> this guy suggests tiv or ranger https://www.baeldung.com/linux/view-images-from-terminal
[01:46] <gorgon> Will check it out later
[01:46] <arraybolt3> ravage: Sheesh, that Carbonyl thing is amazing.
[01:46] <arraybolt3> Might try it :P
[01:46] <ravage> it is!
[01:47] <gorgon> libcaca sounds great
[01:47] <gorgon> wasn't there a different library like that earlier
[01:47] <gorgon> ncurses?
[01:48] <matsaman> well curses is a different thing
[01:48] <gorgon> ok
[01:48] <matsaman> curses/slang/et al, are for terminal-based UI
[01:48] <sarnold> curses is something else, think more menu-driven programs
[01:48] <matsaman> and libcaca is for ascii-izing imagery, basically
[01:48] <sarnold> libaa was the first thing like libcaca that I heard of
[01:48] <gorgon> Wow libcaca is 10 years old
[01:48] <sarnold> back in school I watched a bootleg rip of the matrix with libaa, because of course I did
[01:49] <gorgon> I mean the last release was 9 years ago: http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/libcaca
[01:49] <gorgon> but that probably means there's nothing more to add
[01:49] <gorgon> as long as they compile it with all the recent security fixes it should be safe enough i suppose?
[01:51] <gorgon> Also I'll install Audacity if that's the best GUI viewer for Linux
[01:51] <gorgon> Thanks for all the suggestions!
[01:52] <sarnold> gorgon: audacity is an *audio* tool btw ;)
[01:54] <gorgon> thanks it seems really good
[01:57] <gorgon> The UI looks a bit out of place, more like Windows 3x
[01:57] <gorgon> Probably it's not a KDE application
[01:57] <gorgon> but it seems to be well maintained despite the looks
[01:58] <gorgon> Last code merge was just 16 hours ago
[01:58] <sarnold> it started in the same era, wikipedia says its first release was may 28, 2000
[01:58] <sarnold> (I was guessing earlier than that, heh)
[02:00] <matsaman> there is probably a KDE-oriented alternative, but you're going to find plenty of irreplaceable apps that aren't KDE oriented
[02:00] <matsaman> so probably best to get over that now (or spend ages setting up themes to make such apps look native)
[02:01] <gorgon> Nah I'm good with audacity
[02:01] <gorgon> If it's the gimp of audio, which it seems to be
[02:01] <matsaman> it is
[02:02] <sarnold> there's a kde non-linear video editor kdenlive that loads of people like; it *might* be able to do audio things, too, but it'd be an afterthought for them
[04:58] <zbu> halo
[05:15] <circle> The kubuntu 22.04.2 installer ISO -> USB has a partition named "writeable". This is a great advance. Is there anything I can do short of shutting down when I insert another USB which also has a partition named "writeable". Problem is that /var/log of the running OS is written on "writeable" *by name*, and then I cannot unmount the writeable
[05:15] <circle> partition on the second USB.
[05:16] <rbox> youc an disable automounting
[05:30] <circle> That would be a preventative measure, yes.   But is there a way to untangle two partitions once it occurs?
[05:32] <rbox> well yo uahent shown any output or error messages
[05:32] <rbox> so theres only so much one cay say...
[06:53] <LifeIsSoEZEZEZ> seexuntu
[06:53] <LifeIsSoEZEZEZ> o_o
[07:07] <shadowhawk> hello
[07:13] <LifeIsSoEZEZEZ> printf ("slave world");
[07:16] <circle> Is it conceivable that resetting the BIOS on an older machine (pre-2019) could make the recent Ubuntu installers no longer boot in secure mode?  Do they rely on a more recent key or somesuch?
[07:19] <wwwi> hello, I made a Windows folder shared
[07:19] <wwwi> how do I access it from Ubuntu?
[07:19] <accomp> circle, yeah, disable secure boot and try again.
[07:20] <accomp> or fix the boot with a live USB and boot-repair.
[07:22] <accomp> wwwi, i think you should be able to access it from the file explorer in network, however if its not listed, try ctrl+l and enter the URL with IP of the machine like: //192.168.1.2/shared_folder_name  IIRC.
[07:22] <LifeIsSoEZEZEZ> printf ("slave world");
[07:27] <LifeIsSoEZEZEZ> oh my sex
[07:27] <LifeIsSoEZEZEZ> let 's go sex  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[07:27] <LifeIsSoEZEZEZ> sex sex sex ggo gogo googogo
[07:28] <topcat001> !ops
[07:58] <wwwi> smb://IP/shared folder prompts for a domain, what do I put there?
[08:09] <circle> accomp: is  boot-repair on the live boot menu? I do not find an apt package named boot-repair
[08:28] <StyXman> is there any way I can disable the notification that says "Pending update of firefox snap. close the app to avoid disruptions (8 days left)"? it keeps nagging me for DAYS
[08:31] <akik> :)
[08:31] <akik> the new normal
[08:32] <StyXman> 9:32 I close it
[08:32] <StyXman> let's see how long (short) it takes to appear again
[09:36] <ice9> which component I should file a bug for USB transfer speed issues ?
[09:42] <shadowhawk> hey
[09:43] <bittin> hi
[09:50] <wwwi> hello, I can't connect to my Windows shared folder, I give credentials, then the credientials pop up is presented again, I type them again and then it perpetually keeps thinking
[09:50] <wwwi> any ideas?
[09:51] <shadowhawk> oh wow
[09:51] <shadowhawk> the problems we have here
[09:51] <shadowhawk> i hope we get some good answers!
[09:59] <blackmushroom> Can anyone help me?!?! too many kworkers process and mad cpu single core overload
[10:13] <kalilinux> hii friends
[10:13] <kalilinux> good morning
[10:14] <kalilinux> best alternative of microsoft office in linux except libreoffice
[10:14] <kalilinux> ???
[10:15] <dsc_> vim
[10:15] <kalilinux> vim ?
[10:16] <kalilinux> oo iget it
[10:16] <kalilinux> vim is a text editor
[10:16] <kalilinux> in linux
[10:17] <kalilinux> but i want some office app like word, excel, powerpoint
[10:17] <kalilinux> i found onlyoffice
[10:18] <kalilinux> its interface is same as MS Office
[10:19] <kalilinux> hii otisolsen70_
[10:19] <kalilinux> how are you my friend
[10:19] <kalilinux> i am fine
[10:19] <kalilinux> and you?
[10:19] <kalilinux> i hope ypu are well
[10:20] <kalilinux> and doing some works in your life
[10:20] <kalilinux> why in this channel no one talk
[10:21] <kalilinux> when i am using linux mint last year
[10:21] <kalilinux> many of them were chating
[10:21] <kalilinux> and discussing about linux and apps
[10:21] <EriC^^> !offtopic | kalilinux
[10:22] <kalilinux> and something realted to operating system
[10:22] <kalilinux> my username is kalilinux but i am on ubuntu 20
[10:23] <kalilinux> i choose my username kalilinux bcoz its sounds cool.
[10:49] <danjalical> huh, its my year to this day when I told myself I would run ubuntu for good
[10:49] <danjalical> I just realised
[10:55] <kalilinux> hii
[10:59] <wwwi> hi, I managed to access my Windows Shared folder from Ubuntu and nautilus sees it, but applications don't see it
[10:59] <wwwi> any ideas why?
[11:07] <ravage> wwwi: usually you see them in $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/gvfs
[11:08] <ravage> on a default installation that should be /run/user/1000/gvfs/
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:13] <jacob-vlijm> Hey!
[15:05] <lmat> When I   dpkg -S "$file"; I get "libace-7.0.6: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libACE_Monitor_Control-7.0.6.so". Then when I "apt purge libace", I get "E: Unable to locate package libace". Does this mean my system is broken or is there some other mechanism by which a package might be installed and providing a file, but I can't remove the package?
[15:06] <aiena> Is there a way to hide all those disk drive icons that show up in the Activities?
[15:06] <aiena> I mean mount points
[15:07] <lmat> aiena: I assume you don't want to unmount the filesystems? ;-)
[15:08] <aiena> lmat, the file systems are not mounted
[15:08] <aiena> but those icons show up giving a choice to mount them
[15:08] <aiena> they flood the activities sidebar
[15:08] <aiena> trash + mountpoints
[15:09] <aiena> err mountable partitons
[15:09] <aiena> maybe something of gvfs
[15:09] <aiena> e.g. mount 300gb volume, mount 41 gb volume etc....
[15:10] <aiena> the fs's are not mounted I just dont like those icons its ok in the file manager but why in the main Activities ribbon?
[15:11] <aiena> but it shows up in the running apps part
[15:13] <aiena> their icons to "Other locations" in the file manager
[15:13] <aiena> *they're
[15:14] <aiena> but only drives excluding the os root
[15:14] <jhutchins> lmat: Try dpkg -l | grep libace
[15:14] <jhutchins> lmat: You might simply try libace-7
[15:16] <ice99> .mp4 and .vid files are not playing in Videos, they only work in VLC, any idea?
[15:25] <jhutchins> ice99: Play them in VLC.
[15:26] <jhutchins> ice99: Make VLC the default app to open those file types.
[15:26] <leftyfb> lmat: sudo apt purge libace-7.0.6
[15:27] <ice99> I added Nextcloud account to online accounts but calendars and contacts doesn't show up in gnome even after relogin, any idea?
[15:30] <lmat> leftyfb: That worked! I'm surprised...I didn't think I needed to provide the version. Thank you!
[15:47] <akik> snap list in 22.04 says that firefox was published by mozilla. did they create the snap?
[15:47] <leftyfb> yes
[15:53] <jhutchins> lmat: It's hard to tell when there are version numbers that are part of a package name - and how much of the number is required.
[15:56] <wasutton> alright, it looks like the libvirt issues started with the jump from 20.04.4 to 20.04.5
[17:03] <WeeBey98> anyone ever get like... blinking windows or the taskbars on Gnome?
[17:05] <jhutchins> WeeBey98: Does your TV ever do that?
[17:06] <WeeBey98> Used to. I just hit it on the side. ;)
[17:06] <WeeBey98> I think something is funky with graphics drivers recently, but I'm not sure what it could be. It started happening last week.
[17:08] <jhutchins> WeeBey98: Remember there's a huge variety of hardware combinations out here.
[17:08] <jhutchins> WeeBey98: Although that sounds like it could be a hardware issue.  Loose connector or something.
[17:08] <WeeBey98> I know. Just sometimes something gets pushed out with some bug.
[17:08] <WeeBey98> jhutchins, Nah. it's only certain windows or panels.
[17:09] <WeeBey98> As if the rendering of that windows is acting up.
[17:09] <WeeBey98> not too serious. Just checking if anyone saw a siimlar thing recently. It happens.
[17:10] <oerheks> WeeBey98, on wht graphics card?
[17:11] <WeeBey98> oerheks, nvidia rtx 3070 mobile
[17:12] <oerheks> What kernel version? uname -a
[17:13] <WeeBey98> 6.1.12 (imma get in trouble lol)
[17:13] <oerheks> no, this is a known issue for windows too, often  too high refreshrate 144
[17:14] <WeeBey98> this display is 165hz
[17:14] <oerheks> up to 120 it could work fine..
[17:15] <WeeBey98> next time i'll see it i'll change the refresh and see.
[17:15] <WeeBey98> Thanks for the tip oerheks
[17:15] <oerheks> yw
[17:48] <supay> what does it mean when the dependency says `gnome-shell >= 40.0`?
[17:48] <supay> does it mean >= 3.40.0 or something else?
[17:49] <supay> also, can i upgrade my gnome-shell to 3.40.0 on ubuntu 20.04
[17:56] <tomreyn> supay: it means version 40.0 or higher.
[17:58] <tomreyn> and no, you should not try to upgrade gnome packages without also upgrading to a newer ubuntu release.
[17:58] <tomreyn> 20.04 LTS can be upgraded to 22.04 LTS
[18:00] <tomreyn> gnome moved to version numbers 40 and higher for what could also have been the 4.0 release, similar to other software such as some web browsers (firefox, chromium) https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome-shell
[18:46] <supay> tomreyn: ahh, i see. that makes a lot of sense. thank you! :)
[18:47] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[19:36] <Floating4> whats the eqiv of ping -t in ubuntu terminal?
[19:36] <ravage> ping
[19:37] <sarnold> ping -t ?
[19:37] <Floating4> its -b  -- continious
[19:38] <ravage> that should be the default
[19:38] <ravage> -> ping
[19:38] <Floating4> well look at that - learn something every day
[19:38] <ravage> and b is broadcast ping on linux
[19:38] <Floating4> I see that now
[19:57] <jhutchins> Floating4: There's a man page for ping - man ping
[20:13] <tim95> Does anyone here know how to interpret dbus-monitor output?
[20:24] <saunders> my keyboard:  https://askubuntu.com/q/1449887/847449      an old question, but never figured out how to take a screenshot with the "printscreen" key as "windows-shift-s" on Microsoft Windows.  The "print" key is rather odd on this keyboard.
[20:27] <Gallomimia> pardon me... how can i verify a USB stick is bootable, using ubuntu
[20:27] <Gallomimia> i guess i could always try to boot from it...
[20:29] <akik> Gallomimia: you can try to boot it with qemu-kvm
[20:31] <Gallomimia> well i installed that easily enough. but here we hit a wall. got manual?
[20:31] <akik> Gallomimia: i think the minimal set of options was: sudo qemu-kvm -m 1024 /dev/sdX
[20:31] <akik> or if you fix the permissions on /dev/kvm, just: qemu-kvm -m 1024 /dev/sdX
[20:32] <Gallomimia> oddly enough, of all the commands available starting with qemu now, kvm is not one of them
[20:33] <akik> Gallomimia: yea i noticed that earlier. try to use qemu-system-x86_64
[20:34] <arraybolt3> Gallomimia: qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 4096 -smp 2 -hda /dev/sdx
[20:35] <arraybolt3> ^ that should work fairly well with Ubuntu Desktop, there are other variants on that command if you need something specific or less resource-intensive.
[20:35] <Gallomimia> wow. yeah i'm giving up on that. just trying to get a USB that's bootable. used dd on another machine to flash an iso, but that machine won't boot it
[20:35] <arraybolt3> Gallomimia: Is it a BIOS machine? And by "won't boot", does it not even try, or does it try but freeze during bootup?
[20:35] <Gallomimia> thanks for the suggestion. i'll read more about qemu later. it sounds like it will do some other things that i'd like
[20:35] <Gallomimia> yes, yes
[20:35] <arraybolt3> Ah, that's a known bug, just leave it "frozen" and it will figure itself out in 10 minutes or so.
[20:36] <akik> Gallomimia: if the iso image is not for uefi boot, change your uefi to boot in bios or csm mode
[20:36] <arraybolt3> Only affects booting the ISO, the installed system won't have the slow boot.
[20:36] <arraybolt3> I'll try and find the bug report.
[20:36] <Gallomimia> no it won't. the machine in question is like 12-15 years old, and we're trying to boot win7
[20:36] <Gallomimia> it's running manjaro but it's pretty darn slow, and the fellow who wants to use it is not too interested in linux at all. so... now we're off topic
[20:37] <arraybolt3> Gallomimia: Ah.
[20:37] <leftyfb> Gallomimia: manjaro is also offtopic here
[20:38] <arraybolt3> leftyfb: They're trying to test a bootable USB on Ubuntu I assume, that would be on-topic regardless of the OS on the ISO or the final target system, since whether it boots or not is the problem, not what it is that is being booted.
[20:38] <arraybolt3> And Ubuntu's qemu-system-x86_64 can do that.
[20:38] <Gallomimia> yeah i'm trying to use my ubuntu machine to check and see if the USB stick is bootable
[20:39] <leftyfb> oh, it looks like they had a manjaro machine trying to test a win7 installer usb
[20:39] <akik> Gallomimia: there's a command isohybrid that converts non-isohybrid isos to isohybrid
[20:40] <Gallomimia> as in.... efi/bios hybridness?
[20:40] <Gallomimia> isohybrid
[20:40] <Gallomimia> wrong window
[20:40] <arraybolt3> isohybrid I think makes a "can only boot from a DVD drive" ISO file also bootable from a USB drive when you dd it.
[20:41] <Gallomimia> OH!
[20:41] <arraybolt3> But also, Windows doesn't take too kindly to being straight dd'd to a drive - WoeUSB might be better.
[20:41] <Gallomimia> that's probably a big deal
[20:41] <Gallomimia> what is a woeUSB
[20:41] <arraybolt3> It won't need isohybrid. I've used it several times.
[20:41] <arraybolt3> https://github.com/WoeUSB/WoeUSB
[20:41] <arraybolt3> (Not officially supported, but if that's what you're doing anyway, may as well give an easy option.)
[20:41] <arraybolt3> s/several/twice/
[20:41] <arraybolt3> s/twice/thrice/ (ok so it was several :P)
[20:42] <Gallomimia> lots of options to look into. sounds like Future-gallo's problem
[20:42] <arraybolt3> or whatever, I'm mis-remembering things. You know what I mean. Use that tool, will make bootable Windows stick :D
[20:42] <arraybolt3> Anyway, /me stops going off-topic
[20:43] <akik> Gallomimia: i have the commands to make a windows iso able to boot from a usb stick if you need those
[20:43] <akik> Gallomimia: it's a matter of copying the files
[20:43] <ravage> the woeusb script really does a good job and is easy to use
[20:44] <akik> ravage: it's just a script with many dependencies?
[20:44] <ravage> it has some dependencies yes
[20:45] <ravage> i think most required for basic operation are part of a default ubuntu desktop install
[20:45] <ravage> if not all
[20:45] <arraybolt3> I had to install wimtools to make it work.
[20:46] <arraybolt3> Everything else was there.
[20:46] <ravage> that is not required for a simple iso to usb transfer
[20:46] <ravage> (to a ntfs usb)
[20:47] <arraybolt3> I was flashing Win10 ISOs to what I believe was a FAT32 USB (that was what it did by default), so it needed it for me. Win7 is smaller and might not need it.
[20:48] <ravage> yep. should not be needed with --tgt-fs ntfs
[20:49] <arraybolt3> OK, brb, trying something real quick...
[20:53] <akik> ravage: is --tgt-fs a woeusb option?
[20:53] <ravage> Yes
[21:25] <nsaunders> is there something like monitors.xml for wayland?  Previously available resolutions are no longer available.
[21:51] <telmac> chrome is crashing every time I start it, sometimes it lasts for a few seconds, sometimes it dies immediately
[21:51] <telmac> one sec i'll post a log
[21:52] <telmac> https://paste.debian.net/1274840/
[21:52] <matsaman> telmac: try chromium, I don't think any chrome you'd get would be anything but a really terrible upstream binary
[21:52] <matsaman> that is: built by google
[21:52] <telmac> I'm figuring it's line 7
[21:52] <telmac> there was some actual reason why I wanted chrome proper
[21:53] <telmac> my recollection is that I used chromium on debian maybe 7 years ago and it was noticeably worse than google's chrome packages
[21:53] <telmac> maybe this is moot now
[21:54] <matsaman> academic*
[21:54] <matsaman> on the one hand, yes, you're more likely to get Google's upstream features working in chrome
[21:54] <matsaman> on the other hand, the build is going to be really bad
[21:55] <telmac> hum hum
[21:55] <sarnold> what an unhappy log :/ each of those could have been a cause for the failure
[21:55] <matsaman> anyone it should be easy to try chromium and see if it's missing something, now
[21:56] <telmac> yeah I'm setting things up now
[21:56] <telmac> I see it's on the same official version number which is reassuring
[21:57] <matsaman> anyway* it should, wow
[21:57] <telmac> I have a chrome adjacent question, unrelated
[21:57]  * ogra agrees that anyone shoudl try chromium ....
[21:57] <ogra> 🙂
[21:57] <ogra> once at least
[21:57] <telmac> so there's a problem with wayland support in vscode
[21:57] <telmac> inb4 you say to use vscodium
[21:57] <matsaman> some old backstory if you're bored: https://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html
[21:58] <sarnold> wow, that is *the* spot
[21:58] <matsaman> telmac: use vscodi... aw
[21:58] <sarnold> lol
[21:58] <telmac> I *believe* I actually tried ubuntu's vscodium packages and they have the same problem, but apparently the packages in arch's repos *don't* which is interesting
[21:58] <matsaman> so what's the problem?
[21:58] <telmac> basically, you can pass electron apps a flag to use wayland natively
[21:59] <matsaman> neat
[21:59] <telmac> this is relevant specifically for hidpi support, otherwise I wouldn't really care
[21:59] <telmac> and this works fine with obsidian and slack, but it's broken in vscode
[21:59] <telmac> I think it's actually some larger problem that vscode is like refusing all flags or something
[22:00] <telmac> ah, ok, a legitimate reason not to use chromium: it doesn't support google's sync
[22:00] <matsaman> doesn't it?
[22:01] <telmac> https://www.reddit.com/r/chrome/comments/ly7dn8/no_option_to_sign_into_chromium/
[22:01] <telmac> (I also can't find a login button anywhere in the interface)
[22:01] <ogra> i use a hidpi (4k 13" dell laptop) here and had to recently tst the code snap for someone ... it was totally fine WRT scaling and resolution on wayland
[22:01] <telmac> interesting
[22:01] <telmac> I'm not using the snap, I think I'm using MS's .deb lol
[22:02] <ogra> that shouldnt really make a difference one would hope ...
[22:02] <telmac> one would hope
[22:02] <ogra> 🙂
[22:05] <telmac> @ogra, I just reinstalled it with snap, doesn't seem to help, let me try the electron flag again
[22:06] <telmac> what version do you have? (of vscode)
[22:06] <ogra> i didnt have to use any flag ...
[22:07] <telmac> so indeed it doesn't help with the flag, same error as I was getting a while back:
[22:07] <ogra> it was a few weeks ago and i tested for someone else, it is uninstalled again ... but back then i installed from the latest/stable snap channel whetever was recent in there
[22:07] <telmac> ~$ code --enable-features=UseOzonePlatform --ozone-platform=wayland
[22:07] <telmac> Warning: 'enable-features' is not in the list of known options, but still passed to Electron/Chromium.
[22:07] <telmac> Warning: 'ozone-platform' is not in the list of known options, but still passed to Electron/Chromium.
[22:07] <ogra> thats fine, just a warning ...
[22:07] <telmac> well, but then it just didn't open anything
[22:07] <telmac> I'm not very knowledgeable about snap, is the repository the "same" for everyone?
[22:07] <ogra> right
[22:08] <ogra> its a single package per channel for every distor/relese you install it on
[22:08] <ogra> *distro or release
[22:09] <ogra> technically it should work the same everywhere
[22:09] <telmac> (and like, out of the box looks like it's rendering at a lower res etc)
[22:09] <telmac> well I'm running 22.10
[22:09] <ogra> ah, 22.04 here
[22:09] <telmac> oh interesting
[22:09] <ogra> might be related to gnome shell  ?
[22:10] <telmac> wait what compositor are you running
[22:10] <telmac> ohhhhhh
[22:10] <ogra> default ubuntu desktop
[22:10] <telmac> right
[22:10] <telmac> so I think this *was* fine in gnome shell but I think I was also running at 100% in gnome shell with some stupid "large text" thing on
[22:10] <ogra> (well, a bunch of extensions and hacks ... but largely default 🙂 )
[22:11] <telmac> and then I switched to sway recently and now this is broken
[22:11] <ogra> aha
[22:11] <telmac> I mean I could go check in gnome if it has this problem with fractional scaling
[22:13] <telmac> ok well now chrome is no longer crashing
[22:13] <telmac> ho hum
[23:34] <saunders> Is there something like lspci to show my monitor details?
[23:35] <arraybolt3> xrandr?
[23:37] <sarnold> edid-decode or read-edid perhaps?