[00:04] <oneadvent> hi, i'm trying to upgrade a system that is running 21.10. But it says it is out of date. Anyone know how to upgrade it now??
[00:05] <leftyfb> !eolupgrade | oneadvent
[00:06] <oneadvent> ubottu: i understand, it is my buddys and he just didn't turn it on for too long. is there no path forward from here?
[00:07] <oneadvent> ah wait that last link?
[00:09] <Bashing-om> oneadvent: Last link ^ - yes :D
[00:15] <jhutchins> ubottu: botsnack
[00:16] <jhutchins> !botsnack
[00:51] <oneadvent> i'm sorry. i tried to follow that link, can you give me an example of the sources.list that I would change or do to make it upgrade??
[00:51] <oneadvent> I'm so confused
[00:51] <oneadvent> ubottu
[00:51] <oneadvent> oh lol it is a bot
[00:51] <oneadvent> well anyone else too
[00:52] <leftyfb> oneadvent: change impish to focal
[00:52] <sarnold> oneadvent: you'll have a bunch of 'archive.ubuntu.com' entries in your sources.list; change them to 'old-releases.ubuntu.com' ..
[00:56] <oneadvent> leftyfb: okay so just change that, no problem. can do.
[00:57] <oneadvent> sarnold: they are already old-releases in there
[00:59] <Bashing-om> oneadvent: All entries changed ? the run ' sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt dist-upgrade ' .
[01:02] <oneadvent> Bashing-om: i'm working on it, sorry, doing it for a friend over teamviewer so i have ot wait for him to give me the new password, sorry
[01:03] <oneadvent> leftyfb: and sarnold to be clear i should change all of them, right?
[01:04] <sarnold> oneadvent: yeah
[01:04] <Bashing-om> oneadvent: Yup - see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Oneiric -- If the ups complete with no issues - one final step :D
[01:06] <oneadvent> thanks sarnold and Bashing-om, still waiting on him, sorry, i'll get back as soon as i have done this
[01:20] <oneadvent> I am getting a lot of E: The repository 'http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal Release' does not have a Release file.
[01:20] <sarnold> focal is still supported, so it's not on old-releases yet
[01:23] <Bashing-om> oneadvent: sarnold: should not the sources.list read as " deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ impish main restricted universe multiverse " Note is impish rather than focal.
[01:24] <oneadven1> sorry i closed the window if anyone replied to the above
[01:24] <Bashing-om> oneadvent: sarnold: should not the sources.list read as " deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ impish  main restricted universe multiverse " Note is impish rather than focal.
[01:25] <Bashing-om> ^2nd time too is not the charm :(
[01:25] <oneadven1> oh i thought i was supposed to change all the impish to focal
[01:25] <oneadven1> i can change them back, i did a regex for it anyway
[01:27] <sarnold> ahhhh if you changed the release too, that'd probably break it. you only manually change the server at the start, and then follow the rest of the guide
[01:30] <oneadven1> uh oh...lol this getting bad
[01:32] <pycurious> https://dpaste.org/abGhg - anyone can tell me if these files are a rootkit - or something that i can remove/apt uninstall/....?
[01:33] <rbox> pycurious: /dev/shm is a tmpfs... reboot, they'll be gone
[01:36] <sarnold> pycurious: run fuser on them and find out what process has them open?
[01:58] <oneadven1> ok, i'm back, so which one did I mess up? the first line? Bashing-om
[01:59] <oneadven1> or rather sarnold
[01:59] <sarnold> oneadven1: did you fix up the releases?
[02:00] <oneadven1> well i didn't do anyting but change the archive to old-releases
[02:00] <oneadven1> and the focals back to impish
[02:00] <oneadven1> but I still get errors on the updating
[02:00] <sarnold> pastebin what's happening now?
[02:03] <oneadven1> trying to find an easy way to do that sarnold
[02:07] <oneadvent> sorry is there an easy way? my client isn't doing well today.
[02:10] <sarnold> oneadvent: I like to use nc termbin.com 9999    , paste in whatever I want, and then hit ^D -- it'll give back an url
[02:11] <oneadvent> i think i found a way...lol this is hard over teamviewer, wouldn't recommend it
[02:12] <sarnold> yeah, especially since I wouldn't trust that to run flawlessly across the upgrade
[02:12] <sarnold> it *should* but I don't have a high opinion of most software, you know?
[02:12] <oneadvent> hell no it isn't. not even this far.
[02:12] <oneadvent> but if it crashes i can have my buddy open it again, or facetime/video call me if it is super stuck
[02:13] <sarnold> is ther eno way to ssh to the machine instead?
[02:13] <oneadvent> he would have to open a port on the firewall for that, which would be more than  he can handle
[02:14] <sarnold> aha
[02:22] <oneadvent> ok sarnold here is my sources.list:
[02:22] <oneadvent> http://sprunge.us/siG4MN
[02:26] <oneadven1> back! sorry again
[02:27] <oneadven1> http://sprunge.us/v72AcS
[02:32] <sarnold> oneadven1: aha, comment out the security.ubuntu.com lines
[02:34] <oneadvent> uggg i think teamviewer keeps crashing my pc
[02:36] <sarnold> oneadvent: oh is *that* why it keeps crashing?
[02:36] <sarnold>  < sarnold> oneadven1: aha, comment out the security.ubuntu.com lines
[02:51] <oneadvent> lol i think that is why
[02:52] <oneadvent> bam, yeah i think it working now.
[02:52] <oneadvent> i propose we update the EOL page to reflect this way of doing it, because honestly i didn't know what it was asking for there till you guys spelled it out
[02:52] <oneadvent> so thank you so much
[02:54] <sarnold> oneadvent: yeah I've thought before that some of our wiki pages could use being cut in half or down to 10% of the old size or something..
[02:54] <sarnold> oneadvent: there's just *so much* on that page..
[03:37] <rthndr> Just updated and rebooted my Ubuntu 20.04 server. Now one hdd just ... doesn't exist. `lshw` and `lsblk`  show nothing for it. Other drives are still available. Any ideas on how to get the system to see it?
[03:45] <oneadvent> sarnold: its cool, just doing a simple :%s/old/new/g is something that could save a bunch of people a bunch of time. and it worked great for me once I understood what I needed to do.
[03:45] <oneadvent> anyway it is working. I didn't actually upgrade the system though, because I really just needed the repositories to work enough to install kodi, since that is the new purpose for that laptop.
[03:47] <oneadvent> logging out for the night, but again, sarnold and others (can't remember your handles, because this closed out since you last spoke), thank you all.
[04:37] <sethxcx49> hi
[04:37] <sethxcx49> hello from Hawai
[04:38] <sethxcx49> what is the chit chat for ubuntu?
[04:39] <sethxcx49> I hate c++
[04:40] <rbox> sethxcx49: so don't use it
[04:41] <sethxcx49> I need, but dont like
[04:41] <sethxcx49> C++ is C in a complex way
[04:43] <sethxcx49> weird...
[04:45] <aurora________> so m any lovers, so many life ♪ ♫
[04:46] <aurora________> like a fool I am programming in C++ ♪ ♫
[04:48] <aurora________> like a fool ♪ ♫
[04:48] <aurora________> what is the chit chat channel?
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> stick to ubuntu support please aurora________
[04:55] <ashu> anyone specifics the respective projects announched for gsoc23?
[04:55] <DakotaKae> Hi all, I'm having a strange issue writing a Makefile. Some members of our team use Docker, some use NerdCTL. They're pretty interchangeable, but we just need to know which command to use in the Makefile, so it's being set as a variable. I'm setting it like so: `$(shell (which nerdctl &>/dev/null && echo nerdctl) || echo docker)`. When I run
[04:55] <DakotaKae> `(which nerdctl &>/dev/null && echo nerdctl) || echo docker` in my terminal, it outputs `docker`, as I expect it to. However, when running `make`, it seems to always try `nerdctl` instead. Is there something wrong with how I'm doing it in the Makefile? Running on Ubuntu 22.04
[04:55] <setxcx49> what Bjarne was thinking?
[05:02] <setxcx49> someone wake up that smart guy...
[05:18] <setxcx49> ubuntu rocks...
[05:21] <setxcx49> erection reset by here
[05:27] <Unit193> setxcx49: Hello.  This is the Ubuntu support channel for technical questions only.  Please refrain from random commentary here, thanks.
[05:28] <setxcx49> I will keep my silence, pardon
[07:15] <hamed> hii
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> welcome hamed
[07:21] <hamed> i am pretty new to linux
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> you can ask ubuntu related questions here hamed
[07:41] <migs> hello
[07:41] <migs> Is there anyone here?
[07:42] <enyc> migs: yes, but you should ALWAYS be patient in irc channels, stay logged in in background, not assume instant answers and logout etc.
[07:42] <enyc> migs: similarly if you stay logged in you can answer others in hours to come, etc.
[07:43] <migs> enyc, Ok thanks -
[07:44] <akd3070> hi
[07:44]  * enyc ROARs =)
[07:45] <enyc> ubuntu 20.04.6 point release lately, curious what the key revocations were about exactly.
[07:45] <migs> I am trying to batch convert mp3s to m4bs through the terminal, and have tried several different ways but it just isn´t working
[07:45] <akd3070> go to chatgpt
[07:47] <migs> This person is trying to help me through Ubuntu forums, but doesn´t understand why it isn´t working. My mp3s are fine.https://askubuntu.com/questions/1460523/how-to-batch-change-a-file-extention/1460526?noredirect=1#comment2555849_1460526
[07:47] <enyc> migs: decompressing and recompressing the audio seems silly, will only lose quality...
[07:49] <migs> enyc, yes I know but I need them for audiobooks.
[07:49] <migs> For listening to them on my iphone
[07:51] <migs> I found out how to do it that works but it just combines all mp3s into one, then it converts it to m4a, then to m4b. I would like to convert each mp3 to m4b
[07:52] <migs> This way works: https://pastebin.com/0fRi155E, but just combines all of them. So I know that it works,I just want them to be separated. enyc
[07:53] <migs> @enyc,
[07:53] <migs> How do you tag someone?
[08:50] <fairyfloss> GM
[08:51] <luna_> morning
[08:52] <fairyfloss> Is this Latvian Channel or Global? o0
[08:53] <fairyfloss> Hi!
[08:54] <migs> Is this the right channel for Ubuntu questions?
[08:54] <luna_> hey
[08:54] <luna_> fizi: global
[08:54] <luna_> fairyfloss: global
[08:54] <luna_> sorry tabbed wrong
[08:54] <fairyfloss> aha! got it!
[08:54] <fairyfloss> thx
[08:54] <migs> *for ubuntu tech questions
[08:54] <fairyfloss> yup yup,.. was looking for kubuntu support, just found the right channel.
[09:00] <fairyfloss> Can anyone tell me how to change the hexchat to not use localized language pickup but so i can change it manually to preferred one?
[09:01] <migs> Can someone tell me if something is wrong with this code I put in the terminal to convert all mp3s in one folder to m4bs? https://pastebin.com/LkuqeKJ3
[09:08] <migs> It doesn´t work
[09:08] <dsc_> migs: the name= variable declaration doesnt survive the ;
[09:09] <dsc_> sorry that is a lie
[09:09] <dsc_> it does work
[09:10] <migs> I am tryin to figure out why it is not working. I actually got the code from someone else and the don´t understand why it doesnt'either. I have all codecs installed
[09:10] <migs> *they
[09:14] <migs> dsc_, - These are the errors - https://pastebin.com/ynSArrdS
[09:32] <migs> sorry dsc_ if you had any suggestions I was rebooting my computer
[09:32] <migs> trying to figure out how to convert mp3s to m4bs individually through the terminal
[09:33] <migs> I figured out how to do it if I combine all of them into one mp3 and then convert it to m4b but not sure how to convert them individually
[09:52] <ronson24> Hi
[10:46] <feff0> hi
[10:46] <feff0> is there anyone?
[10:46] <elwisp> y
[10:47] <feff0> first time using irssi, how does it work?
[10:51] <gartral[m]> Very well
[10:52] <gartral[m]> Type /window <number> to switch rooms your in.
[11:36] <pycurious> sarnold: thanks for the comment yesterday. fuser worked.
[11:47] <pycurious> systemctl - does anyone use ProtectSystem=strict here?
[11:54] <HesH1> hello!
[11:56] <HesH1> AWAY 1 sec
[12:00] <HesH1> away (one)
[12:01] <HesH1> Away [one sec]
[12:01] <HesH1> [away: one sec]
[12:02] <ThinkT510> what are you trying to do?
[12:02] <HesH1> im new to irc so im trying experimenting with some commands xD
[12:03] <HesH1> but it's not really working...
[12:03] <ThinkT510> best to read the documentation of your irc client
[12:04] <HesH1> probably
[12:04] <HesH1> im lookin at some /help stuff
[12:05] <ThinkT510> the people in #libera don't mind helping with irc basics. /join #libera
[12:06] <HesH1> ok, will try
[12:22] <pycurious> I've a 20.04lts box in which git is installed in -> /usr/local/bin/git — but dpkg -S /usr/local/bin/git returns empty - any ideas what is going on? I also have gitlab installed on the machine
[12:26] <tomreyn> pycurious: /usr/local/ is where manually installed (not .deb packaged) software is stored at
[12:27] <pycurious> tomreyn: perhaps on this machine gitlab was installed manually and git got installed from there?
[12:28] <tomreyn> perhaps. you should know, or whoever installed it.
[12:34] <ronson> Hi
[12:36] <tomreyn> hello ronson, welcome to ubuntu support
[12:38] <pycurious> tomreyn: is there a way to remove /usr/local/bin/[git,ruby,…] and then install it using apt - I was not the systemadmin for this machine before - and am not sure what is the correct way of fixing this manual install.
[12:40] <tomreyn> pycurious: i can't tell how to remove it 'properly'. it really depends on how it was installed there. it *may* be ok to just delete what you don't want to exist there. as i think you siad: it's possible that the gitlab installation just placed this binary there because it needs a git command and found none to be present. but that's just one theory. we could come up with many others.
[12:43] <pycurious> tomreyn: I think it was a bungled up gitlab install. /opt/gitlab/…/bin/git is what gitlab is using, which is proper. This /usr/local/bin/git was last updated in 2016. I do have a backup of this machine.
[12:43] <tomreyn> generally, when you inherit a system previously managed by someone else, i'd review its existing documentation, get an idea of whether you think this is in a good state that you can risk taking over its management as is. preferrably, and when the answer is 'no' there, the much better option is likely a fresh installation, adding system documentation as needed, and making it auto-installable / deployable
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:01] <Swahili> Q: How can I identify if the OS is desktop? I have https://paste.sh/z589I_6Y#00e9op0tLtfQxJPBSWkvkiqb
[13:04] <tomreyn> A: apt list --installed ubuntu-server
[13:05] <leftyfb> Swahili: don't you know what you installed? Does it boot up to a Desktop or console?
[13:07] <Swahili> tomreyn: thanks! So its not possible to see through cat /etc/*-release
[13:07] <Swahili> leftyfb: it's not me but just checking logs
[13:08] <leftyfb> Swahili: what do you mean it's not you? Is this your machine?
[13:08] <Swahili> leftyfb: it's not my machine, it's a user log, I've provided an application
[13:09] <Swahili> think, when troubleshooting and trying to help somebody you ask them to provide the output for cat /etc/*-release
[13:09] <Swahili> it's not my machine
[13:09] <tomreyn> Swahili: i don't think you can tell by looking at /etc/os-release - the foundation is the same, anyways.
[13:09] <ogra> yeah
[13:10] <leftyfb> os-release is release info, not what applications you have installed
[13:14] <Swahili> tomreyn: thanks, I'll stick with the apt list --installed ubuntu-server
[13:15] <Swahili> leftyfb: ok, the os-release is release info, but I thought it would hint if Desktop
[13:15] <Swahili> not that I am looking for "applications"
[13:16] <ogra> bu that is what makes the difference between server and desktop
[13:16] <ogra> the underlying install is identical
[13:19] <Swahili> ogra: cool, I'll use the apt list --installed ubuntu-server
[13:34] <Slartibart> Hi. When I run '> sudo aa-logprof' I get 'ERROR: PromptUser: Dubbel snabbtangent för CMD_FINISHED: (F)inish'
[13:34] <Slartibart> I think the translation of 'Dubbel snabbtangent' would be 'Duplicate hotkey'?
[13:34] <Slartibart> Does anyone know how to resolve that?
[13:39] <Slartibart> Does the question make sense? I've to my knowledge never fiddled with hotkey settings.
[13:40] <Slartibart> Could it be some mistake in localization files(for swedish)?
[13:44] <Hack5190> Spun up a new (bare bones) Ubuntu 22.04.2 LTS server.  Attempts to SSH into this VM fail with "Couldn't agree a host key algorithm (available: rsa-sha2-512,rsa-sha2-256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ssh-ed25519)".   When SSH'ing into the machine it will replace running Ubuntu 16.04.7 it shows "Doing Diffie-Hellman key exchange with hash SHA-256" in my log.  How can I enable the needed algorithm in the 22.04.2 system?
[13:47] <Hack5190> FYI: yes i know about CVE-2002-20001 and disabling DHE key exchange.....  however these machines are on my home network and the only person here is me.
[13:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu- The Diffie-Hellman Key Agreement Protocol allows remote attackers (from the client side) to send arbitrary numbers that are actually not public keys, and trigger expensive server-side DHE modular-exponentiation calculations, aka a D(HE)ater attack. The client needs very little CPU resources and network bandwidth. The attack may be more disruptive in cases where a client can... <https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2002-20001>
[13:48] <leftyfb> Hack5190: just make a new keypair?
[13:48] <Hack5190> I'm using uesr / password for auth.
[13:50] <Hack5190> based on my DuckDuckGo searches, It seems I need to add a config file in /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d but am not sure of the syntax past "KexAlgorithms"
[13:50] <leftyfb> Hack5190: please copy and paste to pastebin the exact entire message when attempting to ssh
[13:51] <leftyfb> Hack5190: what ssh client are you using?
[13:53] <Hack5190> a old (2018 era) one on MacOS called vSSH - there is no way to upgrade it and I prefer not to switch
[13:53] <leftyfb> Hack5190: this has to do with your client, not the server
[13:54] <leftyfb> Hack5190: putty requires an extra step, this might point you in the right direction: https://stackoverflow.com/a/37871184
[13:54] <Hack5190> understood - thats why i want to add / enable the algorithm on the server
[13:54] <Hack5190> https://pastebin.com/69Xy2f8B
[13:55] <Hack5190> thats whay i said sshd_config.d and not ssh_config.d
[13:56] <tomreyn> support for really outdated / insecure algorythms may have been removed off the server source code by now - you may not be able to work around this by reconfiguring the ssh server
[13:57] <leftyfb> Hack5190: so you want to poke holes in your server because you want to use a non-native ssh client that not only is outdated, but who's site doesn't even exist anymore? I think you need to consider not using an ssh client that isn't supported nor available any longer
[13:57] <Hack5190> very true, thats why im asking here to see if there is any option
[13:58] <tomreyn> try using a newer client on mac os. there's a ##mac channel here (i think it's called that) where you can probably get software recommendations
[13:58] <leftyfb> Hack5190: use the ssh client built into MacOS
[13:59] <Hack5190> ill figure it out, thanks
[14:16] <Slartibart> Found this patch for apparmor. If you search for 'Duplicate hotkey for' that's the exact error that I'm getting. But I don't know the language, can you trace it backwards to see why that fatal_error is triggered? https://markmail.org/download.xqy?id=gcgc76ce5joxqhoy&number=1
[14:22] <Hack5190> Fixed!
[14:30] <leftyfb> Hack5190: you used another client?
[14:34] <Hack5190> no
[14:35] <Hack5190> i achieved my initial goal ;)
[14:36] <leftyfb> Hack5190: you should seriously consider not using antiquated, insecure and unsupported software and not poking holes in other software to let it continue working
[14:45] <Hack5190> Item # 3082 on my list of things to consider doing
[15:58] <th3-m0th> dcc
[16:10] <th3-m0th> Hey I'm new what's going on?
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> !support | th3-m0th
[16:11] <th3-m0th> !support
[16:34] <theorem> hey all, I seem to have an issue setting the default avahi-daemon domain resolve configuration.
[16:34] <theorem> I set "domain-name=.alocal"   in the /etc/avahi/avahi-daemon.conf , and then avahi refuses to startup
[16:35] <theorem> I am trying to resolve a problem where the avahi daemon constant removes, then re-adds ipv6 addresses from it's cache , this , for example, is spamming my syslogs
[16:35] <theorem> Mar 24 12:14:30 semiauto avahi-daemon[376835]: Withdrawing address record for 2600:4040:a93e:6000:52ca:82f0:f1f7:7276 on enx00e04cb9c457.
[16:35] <theorem> and immediately , 4 seconds later
[16:36] <theorem> Mar 24 12:14:34 semiauto avahi-daemon[376835]: Registering new address record for 2600:4040:a93e:6000:52ca:82f0:f1f7:7276 on enx00e04cb9c457.*.
[16:36] <theorem> this appears to happen at least every 12-14 seconds for at least 2 addresses.
[16:37] <theorem> what is going on ?
[16:37] <theorem> the 2600:4040:a93e:6000:52ca:82f0:f1f7:7276 is the local IPV6 address on this machine.
[17:15] <jhutchins> theorem: Is this causing any functional problems?
[17:59] <rfm> theorem, I had something similar when my ISP for some reason configured the router to send ridiculously short lifetimes in the router advertisements.  "ip -6 a" will display the lifetime ("valid_lft") .. It should be like 3600 sec (an hour).
[18:03] <theorem> rfm: that's it !!?@
[18:03] <theorem> rfm: it's set to 20 seconds
[18:04] <theorem> valid_lft 4531sec preferred_lft 20sec
[18:04] <theorem> these are mismatched , I assume that's bad
[18:05] <rfm> theorem, it's ok for preferred to be shorter than valid, but not that much shorter
[18:05] <theorem> no, preferred is longer
[18:05] <theorem> whoops, yes you are right
[18:05] <theorem> where is preferred set ?
[18:05] <theorem> at the DHCPv6 ?
[18:07] <rfm> theorem, it's specified in the router advertisements the network gateway sends out (this is because you've specified automatic [SLAAC} addressing)
[18:07] <theorem> rfm: I am a bit shakey on the ipv6 concepts at the moment
[18:10] <rfm> theorem, it's still new for a lot of people.
[18:10] <theorem> rfm: I have a DHCP v6 client process running on my OpenWRT router requesting an ipv6 address upstream, I have applied a custom DNS server to this WAN6 interface.  I am trying to figure out how a client on the LAN requests a DHCPv6 address from the ISP -- does the router simply forward the request to the ISP ?
[18:11] <theorem> I was assuming I had some kind of control for the DHCPv6 addresses offered on my local lan ..
[18:12] <theorem> I do have a local ULA prefix defined, but that's not likely to be ... related .. ?
[18:13] <theorem> the router is correctly tracking those hosts I have defined as "static" IPV6 addressing . however, this appears to be only the local ULA prefix address I set
[18:14] <rfm> theorem, unlike v4, you don't need DHCP to do automatic address assignment because v6 has Stateless Address Autoconfiguration (SLAAC).
[18:14] <theorem> how do I determine what the ipv6 dhcpd is ?
[18:15] <rfm> theorem, so you don't want to configure dhcpd on the router, you want to configure the Router Advertisements.  I can't remember where that's set up (and it might be different on OpenWRT anyway)
[18:15] <theorem> checking for those ..
[18:17] <theorem> oh, these are ICMP packets, interesting ..
[18:18] <rfm> theorem, something I did remember is there's a Ubuntu command, radvdump, in the package of the same name.  Run that and it will eventually dump out the content of the RAs
[18:18] <theorem> checking
[18:20] <theorem> https://termbin.com/rob4
[18:20] <theorem> rfm: ^^
[18:21] <theorem> 10 seconds on the dns entries, jesus, that's way too fast.
[18:22] <theorem> also, weird clipping on the MTU , 1452 ...
[18:23] <theorem> likely causing fragmentation problems since the local MTU is 1500
[18:23] <rfm> theorem, yes, that looks like it.  That "AdvPreferredLifetime 0" looks bad, I suspect radvd is clamping that at hard minimum of 30.
[18:24] <theorem> rfm: what sets that ?
[18:24] <theorem> the ISP's 1pv6 DHCPD ?
[18:24] <theorem> *IPv6
[18:24] <jhutchins> theorem: Any reason not to just disable ipv6 alltogether?
[18:24] <theorem> jhutchins: not a good solution.
[18:25] <jhutchins> theorem: Because?
[18:26] <theorem> it avoids the problem, doesn't solve it.
[18:26] <jhutchins> I would say it solves it.  The problem stops.
[18:26] <theorem> your are welcome to your opinion.
[18:26] <jhutchins> Very little on the internet is not ipv4 accessible.
[18:27] <rfm> theorem, it's "Path MTU Discovery".  One of the improvements in v6 is it figures out the max MTU that can pass without fragmenting and sets that.  So v6 never has to fragment
[18:27] <theorem> rfm: going to dig into this a little more-  will have to call the ISP and might have to coach them on the right things
[18:27] <jhutchins> rfm: Linux has always done that.
[18:28] <jhutchins> theorem: What do you need iov6 _for_?
[18:28] <jhutchins> ipv6
[18:28] <theorem> rfm: well, unfortunately the IPV6 address and MTU set on the ipv6 inteface is 1500 MTU
[18:28] <theorem> enx00e04cb9c457: flags=4163<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST>  mtu 1500
[18:40] <rfm> theorem, I'm now out of my depth but it looks like Linux ignores the AdvLinkMTU. It's perhaps there to help zero-config devices get the MTU set right.
[18:45] <rfm> theorem, looks like 1452 is the value to use for a PPPoE link, if your ISP supplies those perhaps that's why they picked that number.
[19:14] <aron> sudo -i
[19:14] <aron> ls
[19:14] <aron> lm
[19:15] <theorem> rfm: interesting.
[19:34] <rfm> theorem, if you just want to shut up the messages while you get the ISP sorted, you could change to a static ipv6 address (configure in netplan or connection editor, depending on what you use normally)
[19:37] <rfm> theorem, might have to set net.ipv6.conf.enx00e04cb9c457.autoconf=0 in /etc/sysctl.conf, the kernel really really likes to do autoconfiguration
[19:38] <rfm> theorem, there's also "accept-ra: no" in netplan, dunno about connection editor (or I guess Settings>network on a gnome system)
[19:39] <pycurious> are there any recommendations for a ssh key rotation script/software I can use for a small team?
[19:40] <leftyfb> trust your team and don't "rotate" ssh key pairs
[19:40] <theorem> rfm: i think it's actually throwing issues on my printer too ..
[19:41] <pycurious> leftyfb: should i call it update ssh keys?
[19:42] <leftyfb> pycurious: there are several ssh key management solutions out there. Feel free to type "ssh key management" into google. Asking a support channel to list off several isn't going to help much.
[19:44] <pycurious> leftyfb: I was hoping someone here is using one - and is happy with it - going to google now, thanks
[19:45] <YourObeseMother> uwuntu
[19:46] <YourObeseMother> uwuntu
[19:47] <AAAAAAAAAAAA> print("Hello World!")
[19:55] <rfm>  theorem it might be possible to disable ipv6 on the printer, if that works for you
[19:57] <theorem> rfm: that's stupid enough to work :(
[19:58] <jhutchins> That's like saying you can disable the GUI and still have a useful computer!
[20:03] <theorem> unfortunately, no fix.
[20:11] <rfm> theorem, printer clients might still have ipv6 mDNS service records cached.  Maybe give it a little time to settle after turning off ipv6.  (and I'm afk for a while, gl.)
[20:17] <theorem> rfm: thanks, it seems related to apparmor actually -- I disabled ipv6 on the printer though and I expect it'll get more stable.  since I know there are a lot of mDNS announces in the Bonjour and other auto-discovery protocols that were likely flooding the network.
[20:44] <webchat58> would this be the correct place to ask for help in creating a .sh script similar to a windows .bat file to load VLC on startup and play a VLC playlist, full screen in a continuous loop?
[20:45] <leftyfb> webchat58: pretty sure you can just do that with a .desktop file in startup
[20:46] <leftyfb> webchat58: https://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_command-line_help/
[20:46] <webchat58> would you be able to provide a sample? :-)
[20:47] <leftyfb> webchat58: https://arcolinux.com/how-to-autostart-any-application-on-any-linux-desktop/
[20:48] <webchat58> ok.. I will try the suggested links and see how it goes, Thanks
[20:48] <leftyfb> the vlc command would just be part of the "Exec=" in the .desktop file
[20:48] <leftyfb> something like vlc -fL /path/to/video.file
[20:53] <webchat58> this is what I am using on the win computers "C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" --loop --fullscreen "C:\Clips for Giftshop\Gift-Shop-TV-Display.xspf" how would I write this for ubuntu?
[20:53] <leftyfb> I already gave you an example of how to do it
[20:55] <webchat58> thank you, but forgive me for asking a more specific question as I am very new to Ubuntu :-)
[20:56] <webchat58> No worries I will attempt to make it work with your example.
[20:58] <tomreyn> webchat58: you could do pretty much the same as you did on windows, just "C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" becomes "vlc" and the path to the playlist file will differ
[21:00] <webchat58> Thank you all for your support. I will work on it on the weekend.
[21:45] <nitz> Hey guys, i had to install ubuntu twice on my computer after my original install got its drivers messed up. i now have two instances with two partitions installed on here.. is there a way to "consolidate" my installs into a single working os with my original files?
[21:46] <theorem> yes , however, it's kinda messy
[21:47] <theorem> open up gparted
[21:47] <theorem> and nuke those partitions you don't need
[21:47] <Habbie> nuking things is not step one to consolidation of data
[21:47] <theorem> then reboot to a live CD, and run gparted again -- this time extend the partitions to expand to all of the space.
[21:48] <theorem> Habbie: 100% compression.
[21:48] <Habbie> you don't need a live cd to extend partitions
[21:48] <theorem> :-P
[21:48] <Habbie> theorem, as much as i do think that's funny, we're here to give useful advice :)
[21:48] <theorem> Habbie: you don;t but it's pretty dicey if you don't have / mounted and are running gparted with / unmounted .. .
[21:48] <jhutchins> nitz: What things are you wanting to save from the bad installation?
[21:48] <Habbie> theorem, i grow partitions on running systems all the time, it's fine really
[21:49] <jhutchins> These guys are talking about migrating binaries, which is a Really Bad Idea.
[21:49] <Habbie> jhutchins, what guys?
[21:49] <nitz> @jhutchins mainly my old software and downloads
[21:49] <theorem> Habbie: I didn't know you could do that
[21:49] <Habbie> theorem, most filesystems can be grown (but not shrunk) on a running system
[21:49] <theorem> yes, mount the old partitions then, and copy stuff off.
[21:49] <jhutchins> If you want to migrate applications, use dpkg or apt to list them, then do a clean install of them.
[21:50] <jhutchins> nitz: The downloads you can just copy if you mount the partition they're on.
[21:50] <Habbie> indeed
[21:50] <nitz> thank you. how do i remove the old instance after ive gotten the files and software?
[21:50] <jhutchins> nitz: Something like mount /dev/sda1 /tmp
[21:50] <Habbie> nitz, -that- is where theorem's advice comes in
[21:50] <Habbie> nitz, but no earlier
[21:51] <Habbie> do NOT run that command
[21:51] <nitz> :(
[21:51] <Habbie> do not ever mount anything on /tmp
[21:51] <nitz> which one?
[21:51] <nitz> oh
[21:51] <nitz>  ok
[21:51] <jhutchins> Sigh.
[21:51] <theorem> ooh, never /tmp
[21:51] <theorem> always make a new one, preferable off of /mnt
[21:51] <Habbie> indeed
[21:52] <jhutchins> nitz: Ok, for the pedants in the crowd: Create a mount point: mkdir /oldroot - then mount there instead of /tmp
[21:52] <jhutchins> nitz: I often use /mnt, which they will also shriek about.
[21:52] <Habbie> jhutchins, you know, there's no reason to be like this
[21:52] <nitz> thank you guys, ill need to do some homework on that, thats pretty advanced for what i usually do but you have to start somewhere
[21:52] <Habbie> nitz, yes, read up, be careful
[21:53] <theorem> be glad it's not dd :)
[21:53] <nitz> 1. mount the other partition and copy files.
[21:53] <nitz> 2. use apt on my other install to figure out what exactly was installed on there
[21:54] <nitz> 3. remove the old partition using gparted
[21:54] <nitz> thanks!
[21:54] <Habbie> (1) yes (2) dpkg --get-selections (use that as a google term perhaps) is nice
[21:54] <Habbie> (3) yes
[21:54] <Habbie> and then perhaps (4) resize the remaining one as theorem started with
[21:55] <nitz> good tip on (4)
[21:55] <nitz> wilco
[21:55] <theorem> just the tip
[21:55] <nitz> thats all i need<3
[21:55] <theorem> yeah, see how it feels.
[21:55] <theorem> ....
[21:57] <nitz> cheers, im off to potentially destroy this pc
[21:57] <nitz> lol
[21:57] <Habbie> good luck
[21:57] <Habbie> when in doubt, grab a usb stick and make another copy of things
[22:58] <rfm> theorem, back six hours ago before we got off on router advertisements, you were asking about "domain-name=.alocal" in avahi-daemon.conf causing avahi-daemon not to start. the problem there was the leading dot, just "domain-name=alocal" would have worked