[05:30] does anyone know how to run a second instance of xquartz on a separate desktop so that I can use multipass to run KDE as the window manager on that other display server? [10:57] Hi nightstrike_! I don't master macOS, I'd suggest you to go to xquartz.org and see how to do it. On the other hand, Multipass can run any display manager, as shown [here](https://multipass.run/docs/set-up-a-graphical-interface#heading--using-x11-forwarding). If I understand it correctly, maybe you don't need a second instance of xquartz to do what you intend. [14:37] LuisPearanda[m]: x servers can only have one display manager at a time. So while I can open a window directly, I can't start for instance KDE. [14:38] Xquartz support is not too active these days. There's basically one person who has been working on it since it started. === LuisPearanda[m] is now known as luisp[m] [14:59] nightstrike_: I see your point now. Not sure how to do that on macOS. But if you need something with Multipass, don't hesitate in asking us again :) [19:55] luisp[m]: can multipass access the host graphics hardware to run X natively? [21:08] nightstrike_: not yet. We planned doing that at some point, but there is unfortunately no ETA for that. [21:23] luisp[m]: ok. So I'm still stuck between with X server I can't talk to :( It's interesting, because the multipass wiki talks about doing it, it just doesn't really work [21:24] I guess to be fair, the Mac section punts to the Linux section ;) [21:24] https://multipass.run/docs/set-up-a-graphical-interface#heading--x11-on-macos [21:25] As an aside, you don't need to add the overhead of an ssh tunnel to forward X over a local connection like that. You can just tell the X server to accept TCP connections, disable auth with xhost +, and then set your DISPLAY to the IP of the host... as in, export DISPLAY=192.168.0.1:0 // or whatever IP [21:25] it goes a lot faster [21:25] the fundamental issue, though, is that X servers can only have one window manager per instance