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| cpaelzer | warming up the campfire ... | 14:30 |
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| eslerm | o/ | 14:30 |
| slyon | o/ | 14:30 |
| joalif | o/ | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | just a sec ... | 14:31 |
| sarnold | good morning | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | finally, now fully ready | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 14:34 |
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| cpaelzer | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage eslerm | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | I've sorted out mosh this morning | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | some others I've seen handled by others | 14:35 |
| slyon | regarding bug #2008789 this is our (Foundations) top priority for this cycle. | 14:35 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2008789 in inetutils (Ubuntu) "[MIR] inetutils" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2008789 | 14:35 | |
| cpaelzer | so mistmatchs with that plus being in freeze for a while LGTM | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | jaraco is still up | 14:35 |
| slyon | I know we're way too late with that one (sorry for that!) | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/inetutils/+bug/2008789 | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | that (urgency) will be needed in the security section of this meeting | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | because that is where it is at the moment | 14:36 |
| slyon | it was an odd situation with the previous package being dropped from Debian and Ubuntu too early. and now we have inetutils-telnet in the seeds... | 14:36 |
| sarnold | ack in both meanings.. | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | no action on mismatches | 14:36 |
| slyon | so if we can please prioritize this for sec-review, sarnold ? | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | I'm ignoring this rightful request of slyon until the section of the meeting where it fits is on :-P | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | nothing, going on# | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | I now remember, something in regard to printing was the other resolved case that flew by | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | a few recent updates, checking ... | 14:38 |
| slyon | we've got some answers for didrocks on bug #1993819 (cargo MIR) | 14:38 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1993819 in dh-cargo (Ubuntu) "MIR: cargo, dh-cargo" [High, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1993819 | 14:38 | |
| cpaelzer | cargo discussions https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cargo/+bug/1993819 | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | I assume Zixing and anyone else ont he case will continue | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | and we will see it again once all is clarified | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | I see no action for us as of now | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lua5.4/+bug/1909665 came up because of me | 14:39 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1909665 in lua5.4 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] ibus-libpinyin dependencies" [Low, Incomplete] | 14:39 | |
| slyon | Yes, Zixing is taking over from Simon, trying to push the caro MIRs | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | yep, seen that in the bug | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | we want - next cycle - have a look at changing the lua in main to the newer version (lots of deps to check) | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | no action now on that | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | and the last with a recent update https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-tiling-assistant/+bug/2007710 | 14:40 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2007710 in gnome-shell-extension-tiling-assistant (Ubuntu) "[MIR] gnome-shell-extension-tiling-assistant" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 14:40 | |
| cpaelzer | that got an ack by didrocks | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | and the requested change is being worked on | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | I expect that to come back to us once landed in Lunar | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | and then it should be fine | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | Internal link | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: no it is your turn to ask | 14:41 |
| sarnold | :D | 14:42 |
| slyon | :) | 14:42 |
| slyon | as stated earlier, bug #2008789 is foundations top priority (still for this cycle) | 14:42 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2008789 in inetutils (Ubuntu) "[MIR] inetutils" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2008789 | 14:42 | |
| slyon | we hope the security team can support us with that. | 14:42 |
| eslerm | can do | 14:42 |
| slyon | thanks a lot eslerm | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | ok, considering that resolved | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | It is my turn to beg | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: isc-kea | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | servers remaining big item | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | being important to land in time before 24.04 | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | upstream stopped servicing the alternative | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | ... | 14:43 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: my intention is to start it today -- I'm hoping eslerm has the time to knock telnet out of the park today :) | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | *reasons* | 14:43 |
| eslerm | o.o | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | eslerm: while working on telnet, could you send sarnold a message to look at kea every ~15 minutes please? | 14:43 |
| sarnold | <3 :) | 14:43 |
| eslerm | will do cpaelzer :) | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | thank you | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | both! | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: if you do not complete it I'll need a pic of you to put it aside the red items :-) | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | no pressure :-P | 14:44 |
| sarnold | oh man I take awesome selfies | 14:44 |
| sarnold | it's gonna be your best presentation yet | 14:44 |
| sarnold | "encore!" they'll all be shouting.. | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | but back to normal, the rest here looks reasonable as none others are "uaaah, has to be 23.04" right? | 14:44 |
| slyon | eslerm: FYI: the inetuils MIR is only about inetutils-telnet, so you should be able to ignore plenty of unrelated stuff. | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: if you start on it today | 14:45 |
| eslerm | good to know, thanks | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | how about moving kea to "in progress" | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | to reflect the hopefully happening transition today? | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | and inetutils-telnet is not even in jira yet | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | if you need it, you might need to create it first eslerm | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | things seem to settle, I guess it is time for ... | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 14:46 |
| slyon | right. the MIR ACK was just received a few hours ago from joalif (thanks for that!) | 14:46 |
| sarnold | was that one of the ones that ran into jira's 64k limit? | 14:46 |
| sarnold | oh right | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | 64k what? | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | items | 14:47 |
| sarnold | jira's got a 64k limit on descriptions | 14:47 |
| sarnold | so the lp-to-jira tooling we've been using falls over on some of the MIRs | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | I see | 14:47 |
| slyon | cpaelzer: last meeting we had some discussions about https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/14 | 14:47 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 14 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "Add a new PR review section to the weekly meeting" [Open] | 14:47 | |
| cpaelzer | dviererbe: has there been any engagement on issues/community? | 14:47 |
| sarnold | slyon: oh dang, good memory there :) hehe | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: yeah I tried to sort out most of them with dviererbe | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | and I agree it should just become part of the regular process to ahve a look | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | +1 form me as well | 14:48 |
| slyon | I guess we can handle the review/+1/-1 on github. and get it merged eventually, so we don't have to remember it anymore :) | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | I'd merge unless there are objections | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | ok, seems none | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | and it just makes sense to do that | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | should we, while at it also add to look at issues? | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | will in 99/100 be empty but it is a quick and trivial check | 14:49 |
| sarnold | +1 | 14:49 |
| slyon | we've also had https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/15 from eslerm, which could use some feedback on github (myself included) | 14:50 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 15 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "require a single Launchpad bug for each MIR request" [Open] | 14:50 | |
| sarnold | should there be an explicit "one-to-one packages and bugs" text? | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | I added link to issues as well now | 14:52 |
| eslerm | I could add a bullet with text for one-to-one package per bug | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | I just wanted to write, but I would have written what slyon said already | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | "It's a bit more effort for the reporter (and cross linking), but keeps the overall process much cleaner." | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcs/+bug/1953341 can serve as a reference that it works fine | 14:53 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1953341 in pcs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] make pcs the default management tool for Corosync/Pacemaker clusters" [Undecided, Fix Released] | 14:53 | |
| cpaelzer | and that was with MANY affected packages | 14:53 |
| slyon | indeed | 14:53 |
| eslerm | I'm very grateful that pcs had seperate bugs | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | eslerm, I think removing the lines you suggest to remove is fine | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | eslerm: but I think we need to spell out what we expect | 14:54 |
| slyon | eslerm: sarnold: I like adding that one bullet point to make it explicit | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | maybe you could update your PR to still satrt with " In case of a single context/reasoning, but multiple packages to promote please" | 14:54 |
| slyon | +1 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | eslerm: but then say what we expect like "... file a separate bug for each. It is ok to keep the central reasoning/discussion in one place and link from there" | 14:55 |
| eslerm | sounds good, I'll update the PR by next meeting | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | plus maybe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcs/+bug/1953341 can be an example for that | 14:55 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1953341 in pcs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] make pcs the default management tool for Corosync/Pacemaker clusters" [Undecided, Fix Released] | 14:55 | |
| cpaelzer | eslerm: ok | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | eslerm: and by having added it to the agenda we will pick it up next week | 14:55 |
| eslerm | thanks, makes sense to keep the shared reasoning in one bug | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | copied to the PR | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | so that people not following the meeting understadn what is going on | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | ok, that seems to be it | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | any other business by any of you? | 14:56 |
| slyon | nothing | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | nothing here | 14:56 |
| eslerm | same | 14:56 |
| joalif | nothing | 14:56 |
| sarnold | nothing here | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | thank you all | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | let me end the meeting then | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | enjoy the week! | 14:57 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, all :) now I've got some photos to shoot.. | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | indeed | 14:57 |
| slyon | thanks cpaelzer, all! o/ | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 14:57:22 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-03-28-14.34.moin.txt | 14:57 |
| eslerm | thanks all o/ | 14:57 |
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| rbasak | o/ | 18:59 |
| amurray | o/ | 19:00 |
| rbasak | Steve sent his apologies | 19:00 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 19:00 |
| seb128 | hey | 19:00 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 19:00 |
| rbasak | My status is pretty much the same as last. I've only recently returned from a long break, and so I've just been catching up and haven't made any further progress yet. | 19:00 |
| sil2100 | Let's start the meeting and do a quick status check | 19:02 |
| sil2100 | #startmeeting Technical Board | 19:02 |
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| sil2100 | #topic Action review | 19:02 |
| sil2100 | amurray to propose amended Ubuntu Backporters Team Charter | 19:02 |
| seb128 | and on my side I've been struggling to keep up with ongoing work for lunar so didn't have time to work on pending items | 19:02 |
| sil2100 | I guess that's still in flight | 19:03 |
| amurray | re the backports charter - this is slowly progressing but it would be good to perhaps have input from other TB members | 19:03 |
| sil2100 | Yeah, I think we'll just go through the action items and I imagine they'll all be similar | 19:03 |
| sil2100 | amurray: noted! | 19:03 |
| sil2100 | I'll carry over and add asking if others can chip in | 19:03 |
| amurray | thank - latest is in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2023-March/002723.html | 19:04 |
| sil2100 | #action amurray to propose amended Ubuntu Backporters Team Charter - feedback from other TB members welcome | 19:04 |
| meetingology | ACTION: amurray to propose amended Ubuntu Backporters Team Charter - feedback from other TB members welcome | 19:04 |
| sil2100 | I guess the two next ones are also carry over per what seb128 mentioned | 19:04 |
| sil2100 | #action seb128 to help draft an exception to the "must build on all architectures" requirement for snaps | 19:04 |
| meetingology | ACTION: seb128 to help draft an exception to the "must build on all architectures" requirement for snaps | 19:04 |
| sil2100 | #action seb128/amurray/sil200 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage | 19:04 |
| meetingology | ACTION: seb128/amurray/sil200 to help drafting the snap-store Ubuntu-specific tracks usage | 19:04 |
| sil2100 | Same for the next one from Robie | 19:05 |
| sil2100 | #action rbasak to raise any on-going blockers with third-party seeded snap security policy | 19:05 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to raise any on-going blockers with third-party seeded snap security policy | 19:05 |
| sil2100 | sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which x-nox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step | 19:05 |
| sil2100 | ...sadly, also a carry over. But the good news is, I understand the OEM bits a bit more than in the past due to recent work done | 19:05 |
| sil2100 | Still, that didn't help getting this moving forward | 19:05 |
| sil2100 | #action sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which x-nox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step | 19:05 |
| meetingology | ACTION: sil2100 to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which x-nox and TB will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step | 19:05 |
| sil2100 | And the last two ones carry over too per Robie's earlier message: | 19:06 |
| sil2100 | #action rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 19:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 19:06 |
| sil2100 | #action rbasak to create initial bugs against the LP techboard project to track third party repo and DMB expiration policies | 19:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to create initial bugs against the LP techboard project to track third party repo and DMB expiration policies | 19:06 |
| sil2100 | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) | 19:06 |
| sil2100 | There's the Ubuntu Cinnamon application for flavor status | 19:07 |
| sil2100 | The release team approved their addition and they're all added to the machinery | 19:07 |
| sil2100 | We have 4 +1's, so I guess it's enough? | 19:07 |
| sil2100 | And yes, the +1 was generally from the whole release team. There were no objections to this | 19:08 |
| sil2100 | Can I add an action item to announce their addition to the flavors? | 19:08 |
| amurray | sounds good to me | 19:08 |
| sil2100 | #action sil2100 to follow up on the Ubuntu Cinnamon flavor addition thread and announce their official status | 19:09 |
| meetingology | ACTION: sil2100 to follow up on the Ubuntu Cinnamon flavor addition thread and announce their official status | 19:09 |
| seb128 | +1 | 19:09 |
| sil2100 | #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs | 19:09 |
| sil2100 | Empty | 19:09 |
| sil2100 | #topic Select a chair for the next meeting | 19:10 |
| sil2100 | I guess that would be amurray and rbasak as backup | 19:10 |
| amurray | ack | 19:10 |
| sil2100 | \o/ | 19:10 |
| sil2100 | #topic AOB | 19:10 |
| sil2100 | Anything we'd like to discuss? | 19:10 |
| sil2100 | Nothing from my side for sure, my only concern was related to Cinnamon | 19:11 |
| seb128 | sil2100 on the award of the most efficient meeting ever ;-) | 19:11 |
| arraybolt3 | Teleport ItzSwirlz into the room about five minutes ago? :P | 19:11 |
| sil2100 | amurray: we'll let him know by e-mail! | 19:11 |
| sil2100 | ;) | 19:11 |
| sil2100 | I mean, arraybolt3 | 19:11 |
| sil2100 | (I'm too fast in my tab completion) | 19:11 |
| sil2100 | Ok, apologies for this speedrun, but if there is no other AOB, let's call it a wrap! | 19:12 |
| amurray | all good - a quick meeting is a good meeting :) | 19:13 |
| sil2100 | #endmeeting | 19:13 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 19:13:01 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-03-28-19.02.moin.txt | 19:13 |
| amurray | thanks for chairing sil2100 | 19:13 |
| sil2100 | I'll still stay aroundish in case someone has any TB inqueries | 19:13 |
| seb128 | sil2100, no worry, I don't think anyone is going to complain about a short meeting! | 19:13 |
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