| xu-help57w | i have installed andy ham xbuntu 4 times every time it will not accept set name and passcode | 02:55 |
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| gregk | can anyone help me please? I'm having trouble with the installation type and partitioning. | 15:21 |
| gregk | make that just partitioning...i've been trying to hit the bullseye by throwing darts blindly | 15:22 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | !ask | gregk | 15:28 |
| ubottu | gregk: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 15:28 |
| gregk | what's the best way to partition my 120 GB SSD for a new install? | 15:29 |
| gregk | what's the recommended way to partition and format my 120GB SSD for a new install? | 15:31 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, you mean how to or what partitions and sizes you should make | 15:32 |
| gregk | what partitions and sizes I should make | 15:32 |
| genii | For a single user sysem just a swap partition the size of your RAM and the rest a single partition | 15:33 |
| genii | ..formatted in ext4 is the norm | 15:33 |
| gregk | and what mount point? | 15:33 |
| gregk | primary/logical? beginning/end of this space? | 15:34 |
| genii | With SSD the location is unimportant because it's not a physical platter. The main partition would be mounted / , or the root of the filesystem | 15:35 |
| genii | Primary partions | 15:35 |
| gregk | "no EFI System Partition was found" | 15:36 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, on my setups i always have this: 1) 300 MB /boot/efi (fat 32); 2) 30 GB / (ext4); 3) rest of space - 7 GB /home (ext4); 4) 7 GB swap | 15:37 |
| genii | Ah, right, I forgot about EFI | 15:38 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | you can choose primary for 1 and 2nd | 15:38 |
| gregk | do I want that /boot/efi to be /dos or /windows ? | 15:41 |
| gregk | as the mount point, i mean... | 15:43 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, first of all you start with creating new partition table GPT | 15:43 |
| gregk | that's what the installer is guiding me to do, I think | 15:44 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | and /boot/efi is the mount point of the partition nr. 1 which is fotmatted as fat32 | 15:45 |
| gregk | and so far, /dev/sda has /dev/sda1 as 298MB fat32 /dos mount point | 15:45 |
| gregk | am I on track with that? | 15:46 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | swoh us a screenshot. | 15:46 |
| gregk | hmmm...im typing on a laptop, next to the desktop I'm xubuntu-ing. bare drive | 15:47 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | and? | 15:47 |
| gregk | im not sure how to take a screenshot on one machine that I'm trying to config while typing to you on another | 15:48 |
| arraybolt3 | gregk: You can upload the screenshot to Imgur on the machine you're installing to and then type the link here. | 15:49 |
| arraybolt3 | (note that I didn't read the rest of the conversation, I just saw this one snippet and thought I could help with it.) | 15:49 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, or go here on Xubuntu machine: https://webchat.freenode.net/ | 15:50 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | and find our channel. | 15:50 |
| arraybolt3 | diogenes_Vx15: You're on Libera, not Freenode. | 15:50 |
| arraybolt3 | https://web.libera.chat/ | 15:50 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | arraybolt3, sorry my bad :) | 15:51 |
| gregk | is there a telegram? | 15:51 |
| arraybolt3 | Not that I'm aware of in here. | 15:51 |
| gregk | imgur needs a login or to install their app... | 15:53 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, xfce screenshooter has that builtin | 15:53 |
| gregk | I have broken it up sda1- 298 MB as /dos, /sda2- 30GB as / and /sda3 as 8GB swap and /sda4 as 80GB /home | 16:00 |
| gregk | ok - what is an EFI partition? | 16:00 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, why is /dos there? it should be /boot/efi | 16:01 |
| gregk | diogenes_Vx15...two different machines is the problem. can't screenshot on one that I'm trying to config and chat in another thats running w11 | 16:03 |
| gregk | and /boot/efi isnt an option in the installer | 16:04 |
| gregk | i can choose / or i can choose /boot for mount points, but there is no /boot/efi | 16:04 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, we've already given you some instructions on how to login to this chat from the machine you are installing now, if you don't know how and need a more detailed explanation then simply ask, if you don't want to, well that's a different story. | 16:08 |
| gregk | uhhh, maybe I missed how to do that? I'd need to exit the installer and just "tru xubuntu" right? | 16:10 |
| arraybolt3 | gregk: You should be able to just click a "New Post" button in the upper-left corner of the screen in Imgur to use it. I use it a lot and don't have an account. | 16:10 |
| gregk | *try | 16:11 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, yes you have to choose Try Xubuntu. | 16:13 |
| gregk | ok, trying xubuntu and will screenshot | 16:14 |
| gregk | https://imgur.com/J7PFU7G.png | 16:20 |
| gregk | https://imgur.com/FdPLo2y.png is probably better | 16:21 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, let's statr from a clean partition table, remove all the partitions. | 16:22 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | start* | 16:22 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | then click on New Partition Table, choose GPT | 16:24 |
| gregk | I'm not seeing that option...? | 16:25 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | on the right side there is revert and New Partition Table | 16:26 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | also screenshot | 16:26 |
| gregk | Yes, I've hit New partition Table, but there's no GPT option | 16:27 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, screenshot | 16:28 |
| gregk | https://imgur.com/PZFzGEy.png | 16:29 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, ok let's see, click on + and screemshot | 16:32 |
| * diogenes_Vx15 wonders why New partition Table is grayed out | 16:33 | |
| gregk | https://imgur.com/qhxDc7Q.png | 16:34 |
| gregk | because this is a new partition table. | 16:35 |
| gregk | the "Use as" doesn't include the GPT option | 16:35 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, ok size: 300, use as: fat32, mount point: /boot/efi | 16:36 |
| gregk | I can choose the size and fat32 no problems, but my mount point is limited to /dos or /windows | 16:37 |
| gregk | which I can't screenshot because the pulldown options disappear when I open the screenshot app | 16:38 |
| gregk | maybe we should go back a step - and it may help: I flashed the .iso to this drive using etcher. | 16:40 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, that's strange, really strange, did you make any changes in BIOS maybe? | 16:40 |
| gregk | no | 16:40 |
| gregk | that's way beyond my paygrade ;) | 16:41 |
| gregk | is there a way for me to just reformat/wipe ths drive and try again from a USB? | 16:42 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, what machine is this and what SSD? internal/external? | 16:42 |
| gregk | also- the .iso is v22.04.2. latest LTE iirc | 16:43 |
| gregk | internal HP SSD...it's an AMD processor I think... | 16:43 |
| gregk | 64bit...8GB RAM | 16:44 |
| gregk | the 30GB SSD that came with it died the other day, so I'm trying to recreate what I had and it was brilliant | 16:44 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, so you've replaced the SSD | 16:45 |
| gregk | yes. | 16:45 |
| gregk | just went with a bigger one: 30GB -> 120GB | 16:46 |
| gregk | it just wouldn't boot, so I got a new one and figured this was going to be smooth, but... | 16:49 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | ok you'd probably have to check your BIOS setting, especially what interface this SSD is using in BIOS and if UEFI is enabled. | 16:49 |
| gregk | UEFI should be on? | 16:50 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | yes | 16:50 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | UEFI on but secure boot off | 16:50 |
| gregk | are you going to be around? If i reboot and check BIOS etc, this chat will end now that I'm on the machine I'm trying to get running again | 16:51 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | yep | 16:51 |
| gregk | thanks...see you in a bit | 16:52 |
| gregk | safe boot = secure boot? I'm in the Asus uefi bios utility | 17:00 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | i believe so. | 17:02 |
| gregk | and it seems to be enabled...should I turn it off/delete the keys diogenes_Vx15 ? | 17:02 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, yes it's better to turn it off, also don't forget to check your drive settings what interface it's using (e. g. AHCI) | 17:05 |
| gregk | ok- asus logic is weird: secure boot is always enabled UNLESS you're using an OS other than windows. | 17:25 |
| gregk | so while bios is telling me it's enabled, choosing "other OS" overlooks the secure boot otions/keys/procedures | 17:26 |
| gregk | AHCI is set to SATA 6.0GB/s | 17:30 |
| gregk | do I want to enable SATA ESP diogenes_Vx15? | 17:31 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, some manufacturers make it very difficult to install anything other than windows these days. | 17:31 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | yes enable esp | 17:32 |
| gregk | ok thanks...rebooting | 17:37 |
| gregk | still not getting a GPT option | 17:41 |
| gregk | is /usr/local maybe what I'm looking for? | 17:43 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, ok let's try with gparted | 17:46 |
| gregk | well, I'm actually tempted to try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCxoOyUQqUE | 17:49 |
| gregk | theres no admin password set,which may prhibit me from actually disabling that logic and turning safe boot off | 17:50 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, ok try also try changing SSD interfaces, at this point it's a trial and error journey. | 17:52 |
| gregk | nope, still no GPT. i'll quit the installer and we can go to GParted | 17:59 |
| gregk | ok, gparted launched diogenes_Vx15 | 18:01 |
| gregk | should I switch back to chatting on that machine for screenshotting? | 18:03 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, first see if a new partition table is available in gparted | 18:13 |
| gregk | I don't think I can do that..."1 partition is currently active...unmount or swapoff..." | 18:19 |
| gregk | yeah, that's what happens when i attempt to Create Partition Table after selecting the device | 18:20 |
| gregk | is there maybe a command line option here? | 18:22 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, did you select your SSD and not USB? | 18:22 |
| gregk | the USB prevents the machine from booting, so I'm just running off the SSD | 18:22 |
| gregk | I also flashed the USB with the same .iso as the ssd with etcher | 18:23 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, what do you mean running off the SSD? | 18:23 |
| gregk | i flashed the .iso to the new ssd | 18:24 |
| gregk | thats how the machine boots and I'm able to Try or Install xubuntu at boot | 18:24 |
| gregk | right now, to get to gparted, im in the "try" mode | 18:24 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | gregk, no way, you need to boot from USB | 18:25 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | you need to disable secure boot | 18:26 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | otherwise it won't boot | 18:26 |
| gregk | I did...you walked through that with me | 18:27 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | ok now try to boot off USB | 18:28 |
| gregk | oh wait...now it's giving me the option to erase disk and install xubuntu | 18:28 |
| gregk | should I select some advanced features? | 18:29 |
| gregk | use LVM? | 18:29 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | no | 18:29 |
| gregk | so choose "something else" | 18:30 |
| gregk | so I can resize partitions? | 18:30 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | it won't work until you boot off USB | 18:31 |
| gregk | or just "erase disk and install xubuntu" and "install now"? | 18:31 |
| gregk | I think I finally have booted off USB | 18:31 |
| gregk | or the installer wouldn't give me this option, right? | 18:32 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | try and see it you can create new partition table | 18:32 |
| gregk | erase disk and use ZFS? | 18:33 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | no. choose "something else" | 18:35 |
| gregk | now I can choose a new partition table... | 18:36 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | great | 18:36 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | so proceed | 18:36 |
| gregk | I've selected free space of /dev/sda (the 120GB SSD) and clicked + and now it's hanging | 18:39 |
| gregk | but it has recognized the bootloader location as the USB, so I guess we wait... | 18:39 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | if it hangs then check again in BIOS SSD is SATA | 18:40 |
| gregk | and AHCI as the SATA type? | 18:44 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | yes | 18:45 |
| gregk | max speed set as sata 6gbps | 18:45 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | ok | 18:45 |
| diogenes_Vx15 | and always choose "Try" and go to live boot. | 18:46 |
| gregk | ok, ive rebooted but I'm not sure if I'm running off uSB or the SSD | 18:49 |
| gregk | go to gparted? | 18:50 |
| gregk | ok, gparted is seeing the USB so hopefully I vcan unmount and try a new partition scheme on the SSD | 18:51 |
| gregk | nvm gparted...i clicked on Install xubuntu, then the erase disk option and it's creating a new ext4 file system | 18:57 |
| gregk | i believe the progress bar is moving...not fast, but it might be moving... | 19:01 |
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