[02:55] <xu-help57w> i have installed andy ham xbuntu 4 times every time it will not accept set name and passcode
[15:21] <gregk> can anyone help me please?  I'm having trouble with the installation type and partitioning.
[15:22] <gregk> make that just partitioning...i've been trying to hit the bullseye by throwing darts blindly
[15:28] <diogenes_Vx15> !ask | gregk
[15:29] <gregk> what's the best way to partition my 120 GB SSD for a new install?
[15:31] <gregk> what's the recommended way to partition and format my 120GB SSD for a new install?
[15:32] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, you mean how to or what partitions and sizes you should make
[15:32] <gregk> what partitions and sizes I should make
[15:33] <genii> For a single user sysem just a swap partition the size of your RAM and the rest a single partition
[15:33] <genii> ..formatted in ext4 is the norm
[15:33] <gregk> and what mount point?
[15:34] <gregk> primary/logical? beginning/end of this space?
[15:35] <genii> With SSD the location is unimportant because it's not a physical platter. The main partition would be mounted /  , or the root of the filesystem
[15:35] <genii> Primary partions
[15:36] <gregk> "no EFI System Partition was found"
[15:37] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, on my setups i always have this: 1) 300 MB /boot/efi (fat 32); 2) 30 GB / (ext4); 3) rest of space - 7 GB /home (ext4); 4) 7 GB swap
[15:38] <genii> Ah, right, I forgot about EFI
[15:38] <diogenes_Vx15> you can choose primary for 1 and 2nd
[15:41] <gregk> do I want that /boot/efi to be /dos or /windows ?
[15:43] <gregk> as the mount point, i mean...
[15:43] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, first of all you start with creating new partition table GPT
[15:44] <gregk> that's what the installer is guiding me to do, I think
[15:45] <diogenes_Vx15> and /boot/efi is the mount point of the partition nr. 1 which is fotmatted as fat32
[15:45] <gregk> and so far, /dev/sda has /dev/sda1 as 298MB fat32 /dos mount point
[15:46] <gregk> am I on track with that?
[15:46] <diogenes_Vx15> swoh us a screenshot.
[15:47] <gregk> hmmm...im typing on a laptop, next to the desktop I'm xubuntu-ing.  bare drive
[15:47] <diogenes_Vx15> and?
[15:48] <gregk> im not sure how to take a screenshot on one machine that I'm trying to config while typing to you on another
[15:49] <arraybolt3> gregk: You can upload the screenshot to Imgur on the machine you're installing to and then type the link here.
[15:49] <arraybolt3> (note that I didn't read the rest of the conversation, I just saw this one snippet and thought I could help with it.)
[15:50] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, or go here on Xubuntu machine: https://webchat.freenode.net/
[15:50] <diogenes_Vx15> and find our channel.
[15:50] <arraybolt3> diogenes_Vx15: You're on Libera, not Freenode.
[15:50] <arraybolt3> https://web.libera.chat/
[15:51] <diogenes_Vx15> arraybolt3, sorry my bad :)
[15:51] <gregk> is there a telegram?
[15:51] <arraybolt3> Not that I'm aware of in here.
[15:53] <gregk> imgur needs a login or to install their app...
[15:53] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, xfce screenshooter has that builtin
[16:00] <gregk> I have broken it up sda1- 298 MB as /dos, /sda2- 30GB as / and /sda3 as 8GB swap and /sda4 as 80GB /home
[16:00] <gregk> ok - what is an EFI partition?
[16:01] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, why is /dos there? it should be /boot/efi
[16:03] <gregk> diogenes_Vx15...two different machines is the problem.  can't screenshot on one that I'm trying to config and chat in another thats running w11
[16:04] <gregk> and /boot/efi isnt an option in the installer
[16:04] <gregk> i can choose / or i can choose /boot for mount points, but there is no /boot/efi
[16:08] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, we've already given you some instructions on how to login to this chat from the machine you are installing now, if you don't know how and need a more detailed explanation then simply ask, if you don't want to, well that's a different story.
[16:10] <gregk> uhhh, maybe I missed how to do that?  I'd need to exit the installer and just "tru xubuntu" right?
[16:10] <arraybolt3> gregk: You should be able to just click a "New Post" button in the upper-left corner of the screen in Imgur to use it. I use it a lot and don't have an account.
[16:11] <gregk> *try
[16:13] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, yes you have to choose Try Xubuntu.
[16:14] <gregk> ok, trying xubuntu and will screenshot 
[16:20] <gregk> https://imgur.com/J7PFU7G.png
[16:21] <gregk> https://imgur.com/FdPLo2y.png is probably better 
[16:22] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, let's statr from a clean partition table, remove all the partitions.
[16:22] <diogenes_Vx15> start*
[16:24] <diogenes_Vx15> then click on New Partition Table, choose GPT
[16:25] <gregk> I'm not seeing that option...?
[16:26] <diogenes_Vx15> on the right side there is revert and New Partition Table
[16:26] <diogenes_Vx15> also screenshot 
[16:27] <gregk> Yes, I've hit New partition Table, but there's no GPT option
[16:28] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, screenshot
[16:29] <gregk> https://imgur.com/PZFzGEy.png
[16:32] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, ok let's see, click on + and screemshot
[16:33]  * diogenes_Vx15 wonders why New partition Table is grayed out
[16:34] <gregk> https://imgur.com/qhxDc7Q.png
[16:35] <gregk> because this is a new partition table.
[16:35] <gregk> the "Use as" doesn't include the GPT option
[16:36] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, ok size: 300, use as: fat32, mount point: /boot/efi
[16:37] <gregk> I can choose the size and fat32 no problems, but my mount point is limited to /dos or /windows
[16:38] <gregk> which I can't screenshot because the pulldown options disappear when I open the screenshot app
[16:40] <gregk> maybe we should go back a step - and it may help:  I flashed the .iso to this drive using etcher.
[16:40] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, that's strange, really strange, did you make any changes in BIOS maybe?
[16:40] <gregk> no
[16:41] <gregk> that's way beyond my paygrade ;)
[16:42] <gregk> is there a way for me to just reformat/wipe ths drive and try again from a USB?
[16:42] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, what machine is this and what SSD? internal/external?
[16:43] <gregk> also- the .iso is v22.04.2. latest LTE iirc
[16:43] <gregk> internal HP SSD...it's an AMD processor I think...
[16:44] <gregk> 64bit...8GB RAM
[16:44] <gregk> the 30GB SSD that came with it died the other day, so I'm trying to recreate what I had and it was brilliant
[16:45] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, so you've replaced the SSD
[16:45] <gregk> yes.
[16:46] <gregk> just went with a bigger one: 30GB -> 120GB
[16:49] <gregk> it just wouldn't boot, so I got a new one and figured this was going to be smooth, but...
[16:49] <diogenes_Vx15> ok you'd probably have to check your BIOS setting, especially what interface this SSD is using in BIOS and if UEFI is enabled.
[16:50] <gregk> UEFI should be on?
[16:50] <diogenes_Vx15> yes
[16:50] <diogenes_Vx15> UEFI on but secure boot off
[16:51] <gregk> are you going to be around?  If i reboot and check BIOS etc, this chat will end now that I'm on the machine I'm trying to get running again
[16:51] <diogenes_Vx15> yep
[16:52] <gregk> thanks...see you in a bit
[17:00] <gregk> safe boot = secure boot?  I'm in the Asus uefi bios utility
[17:02] <diogenes_Vx15> i believe so.
[17:02] <gregk> and it seems to be enabled...should I turn it off/delete the keys diogenes_Vx15 ?
[17:05] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, yes it's better to turn it off, also don't forget to check your drive settings what interface it's using (e. g. AHCI)
[17:25] <gregk> ok- asus logic is weird: secure boot is always enabled UNLESS you're using an OS other than windows.
[17:26] <gregk> so while bios is telling me it's enabled, choosing "other OS" overlooks the secure boot otions/keys/procedures
[17:30] <gregk> AHCI is set to SATA 6.0GB/s
[17:31] <gregk> do I want to enable SATA ESP diogenes_Vx15?
[17:31] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, some manufacturers make it very difficult to install anything other than windows these days.
[17:32] <diogenes_Vx15> yes enable esp
[17:37] <gregk> ok thanks...rebooting
[17:41] <gregk> still not getting a GPT option
[17:43] <gregk> is /usr/local maybe what I'm looking for?
[17:46] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, ok let's try with gparted
[17:49] <gregk> well, I'm actually tempted to try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCxoOyUQqUE
[17:50] <gregk> theres no admin password set,which may prhibit me from actually disabling that logic and turning safe boot off
[17:52] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, ok try also try changing SSD interfaces, at this point it's a trial and error journey.
[17:59] <gregk> nope, still no GPT.  i'll quit the installer and we can go to GParted
[18:01] <gregk> ok, gparted launched diogenes_Vx15
[18:03] <gregk> should I switch back to chatting on that machine for screenshotting?
[18:13] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, first see if a new partition table is available in gparted
[18:19] <gregk> I don't think I can do that..."1 partition is currently active...unmount or swapoff..."
[18:20] <gregk> yeah, that's what happens when i attempt to Create Partition Table after selecting the device
[18:22] <gregk> is there maybe a command line option here?
[18:22] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, did you select your SSD and not USB?
[18:22] <gregk> the USB prevents the machine from booting, so I'm just running off the SSD
[18:23] <gregk> I also flashed the USB with the same .iso as the ssd with etcher
[18:23] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, what do you mean running off the SSD?
[18:24] <gregk> i flashed the .iso to the new ssd
[18:24] <gregk> thats how the machine boots and I'm able to Try or Install xubuntu at boot
[18:24] <gregk> right now, to get to gparted, im in the "try" mode
[18:25] <diogenes_Vx15> gregk, no way, you need to boot from USB
[18:26] <diogenes_Vx15> you need to disable secure boot
[18:26] <diogenes_Vx15> otherwise it won't boot
[18:27] <gregk> I did...you walked through that with me
[18:28] <diogenes_Vx15> ok now try to boot off USB
[18:28] <gregk> oh wait...now it's giving me the option to erase disk and install xubuntu
[18:29] <gregk>   should I select some advanced features?
[18:29] <gregk> use LVM?
[18:29] <diogenes_Vx15> no
[18:30] <gregk> so choose "something else"
[18:30] <gregk> so I can resize partitions?
[18:31] <diogenes_Vx15> it won't work until you boot off USB
[18:31] <gregk> or just "erase disk and install xubuntu" and "install now"?
[18:31] <gregk> I think I finally have booted off USB
[18:32] <gregk> or the installer wouldn't give me this option, right?
[18:32] <diogenes_Vx15> try and see it you can create new partition table
[18:33] <gregk> erase disk and use ZFS?
[18:35] <diogenes_Vx15> no. choose "something else"
[18:36] <gregk> now I can choose a new partition table...
[18:36] <diogenes_Vx15> great
[18:36] <diogenes_Vx15> so proceed
[18:39] <gregk> I've selected free space of /dev/sda (the 120GB SSD) and clicked + and now it's hanging
[18:39] <gregk> but it has recognized the bootloader location as the USB, so I guess we wait...
[18:40] <diogenes_Vx15> if it hangs then check again in BIOS SSD is SATA
[18:44] <gregk> and AHCI as the SATA type?
[18:45] <diogenes_Vx15> yes
[18:45] <gregk> max speed set as sata 6gbps
[18:45] <diogenes_Vx15> ok
[18:46] <diogenes_Vx15> and always choose "Try" and go to live boot.
[18:49] <gregk> ok, ive rebooted but I'm not sure if I'm running off uSB or the SSD
[18:50] <gregk> go to gparted?
[18:51] <gregk> ok, gparted is seeing the USB so hopefully I vcan unmount and try a new partition scheme on the SSD
[18:57] <gregk> nvm gparted...i clicked on Install xubuntu, then the erase disk option and it's creating a new ext4 file system
[19:01] <gregk> i believe the progress bar is moving...not fast, but it might be moving...
[21:40] <Guest8249> neo
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