[04:34] <nightstrike> how do I troubleshoot a stalled startup of a vm?  This has been going for a few minutes now:
[04:34] <nightstrike> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0RapcLNC/
[12:32] <luisp[m]> nightstrike: hi, I don't see anything wrong in the log you sent. This smells like a network problem accessing the instance. Do you have by chance some VPN service or firewall running?
[12:44] <nightstrike> luisp[m]: it timed out after 5 minutes. I do have a vpn, not sure if it was connected at the time. The only thing I did differently between the last time it worked was reboot due to an OS update
[12:51] <luisp[m]> nightstrike: this happens sometimes due to changes in the macOS firewall. You can try solutions like these: https://github.com/canonical/multipass/issues/2387
[12:51] <luisp[m]> In particular, I'd try first the solution posted by this user: http://skowronski.tech/posts/2023-01-30-macos-application-firewall-and-multipass-debugging/
[12:52] <luisp[m]> The tl;dr is here: http://skowronski.tech/posts/2023-01-30-macos-application-firewall-and-multipass-debugging/#tldr-or-executive-summary
[12:57] <nightstrike> Ok, I'll try tonight
[12:57] <luisp[m]> Good, let us know how it goes!
[12:58] <nightstrike> As an aside, I got a second instance of x quartz running on display 1
[12:58] <nightstrike> The problem was due to needing to code sign the copied app, which I couldn't do because I did a cp -r instead of -a
[12:59] <luisp[m]> really! I'd like to know how did you do. We can add it to the Mac section of the document about X11 windows
[12:59] <nightstrike> I haven't yet gotten a new wm to run, but I did stop quartz-wm from running on it while not disrupting the normal one
[13:00] <nightstrike> I'll write it up in more detail tonight
[13:02] <luisp[m]> Excellent! If you can do it, we can add it to the document
[13:02] <luisp[m]> Thanks for the investigation!